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Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
I mercifully died on D:1, saving me from having to play that crap, so I will now be playing this:

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

Random, Random, Random

Which turns out to be Draconian Venom Mage of Yredelemnul.

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Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
_f - a pair of runed boots
_Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour.
_You continue putting on your pair of runed boots. x4
You finish putting on your +2 pair of boots of running.
_You feel quick.

:circlefap:

El Wombato
Mar 19, 2008

Mexican Marsupial
Other being good at crawl things:

Spoil the hell out of yourself unless you really care.

Always fight in 1-tile hallways if you can help it except for special cases like slimes.

Train fighting

You don't have to fight everything! Learn to use travel exclusions (shift-X, move to square, x) to ignore nasty uniques until you can beat em.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
Fittingly, I became a green draconian.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Thug Lessons posted:

_f - a pair of runed boots
_Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour.
_You continue putting on your pair of runed boots. x4
You finish putting on your +2 pair of boots of running.
_You feel quick.

:circlefap:

Thug Lessons posted:

Fittingly, I became a green draconian.

Nice, and good luck.

OkieMurse
Nov 2, 2011

I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

PleasingFungus posted:

play slow and slow down further when you think you might be in trouble

(human instinct is to panic and play fast when you're in danger; this works out really badly for turn-based tactics games)

in general, when you see enemies, don't walk towards them; let them come to you. (that way, you don't end up fighting both them & all their mates all at once.) pegging guys with rocks is a good way to get their attention without all the noise that shouting creates.

play a gargoyle berserker in 0.15


Thanks for the advice, I'll have to try it.

I hear you know a little something about Crawl after all.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
_z - a potion of experience
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel more experienced!
Your Earth Magic skill gained 10 levels and is now at level 10!
_You have reached level 10!

:vince:

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
This game is literally, (i.e. figuratively), a Vince McMahon reaction gif, in regards to the items I am receiving.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Thug Lessons posted:

As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
_z - a potion of experience
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel more experienced!
Your Earth Magic skill gained 10 levels and is now at level 10!
_You have reached level 10!

:vince:

one time I was quaff-iding for !cure when fighting an adder, and ended up quaffing !xp instead

that was a hell of a game

kind of a pity that you'll normally only find xp in zigs, where they're like, I mean, who cares.

OkieMurse posted:

Thanks for the advice, I'll have to try it.

I hear you know a little something about Crawl after all.

nah im poo poo

Swelter Discharge
Mar 21, 2013

so as a gargoyle berserker would spider or slime be easier to do

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Swelter Discharge posted:

so as a gargoyle berserker would spider or slime be easier to do

Spider. Slime is meant for the end of the game, and even then you should probably avoid it unless you have preservation, unless something changed since the last time I played.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Thug Lessons posted:

As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
_z - a potion of experience
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel more experienced!
Your Earth Magic skill gained 10 levels and is now at level 10!
_You have reached level 10!

:vince:

They're setting you up for a fall...play carefully, friend.

Swelter Discharge
Mar 21, 2013

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

Spider. Slime is meant for the end of the game, and even then you should probably avoid it unless you have preservation, unless something changed since the last time I played.

okay thank u

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Spider sux...there are a lot of nasty enemies even if you have gargoyle poison resistance and AC. Be careful, and good luck.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!
I had to do Spider without poison resistance once. :whitewater:

Swelter Discharge
Mar 21, 2013

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

Spider sux...there are a lot of nasty enemies even if you have gargoyle poison resistance and AC. Be careful, and good luck.

ffuuuuuuu i died trying to finish the lair before going to spider

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Swelter Discharge posted:

ffuuuuuuu i died trying to finish the lair before going to spider

RIP.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
Crawl noob tips: if you are confused, drink a potion of curing, which will cure your confusion. Of course, you cannot drink while berserk, so be careful of berserking around enemies that can confuse (like tarantellas).

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

PleasingFungus posted:

one time I was quaff-iding for !cure when fighting an adder, and ended up quaffing !xp instead

that was a hell of a game

kind of a pity that you'll normally only find xp in zigs, where they're like, I mean, who cares.

Replace them with benemut IMO.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Swelter Discharge posted:

ffuuuuuuu i died trying to finish the lair before going to spider

RIP, to those who died.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Thug Lessons posted:

RIP, to those who died.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!
TFW you're tearing through the dungeon like a badass and it leads you to underestimating a really scary monster and getting pwned.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

TFW you're tearing through the dungeon like a badass and it leads you to underestimating a really scary monster and getting pwned.

Or getting swarmed in Vaults, which is how I end my games

Swelter Discharge
Mar 21, 2013

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

TFW you're tearing through the dungeon like a badass and it leads you to underestimating a really scary monster and getting pwned.

rthats what happened to me i thot i could take on a group of giant leeches and got owned

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Swelter Discharge posted:

rthats what happened to me i thot i could take on a group of giant leeches and got owned

They hit ridiculously hard

qnqnx posted:

Or getting swarmed in Vaults, which is how I end my games

Yeah. Vault 5 kills almost all my characters that make it past the Lair branches.

Swelter Discharge
Mar 21, 2013

i just found a +27 lear's hauberk :pwn:

that seems really high for an enchantment

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Swelter Discharge posted:

i just found a +27 lear's hauberk :pwn:

that seems really high for an enchantment

It blocks all your off slots, which give 3 base armour and +6 on enchants, plus cool egos etc. If you find it early it's insane though, definitely wear until you find gloves/helms/boots and a better body slot.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Swelter Discharge posted:

i just found a +27 lear's hauberk :pwn:

that seems really high for an enchantment

It's a fixed artifact and it's not very good because it's really encumbering (I think?) and also uses up all your armor slots.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Thug Lessons posted:

It blocks all your off slots, which give 3 base armour and +6 on enchants, plus cool egos etc. If you find it early it's insane though, definitely wear until you find gloves/helms/boots and a better body slot.

Oh I didn't know it was good early.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
For reference 3 base armour is the same as the difference between wearing leather and scale - i.e. huge.

Swelter Discharge
Mar 21, 2013

Thug Lessons posted:

It blocks all your off slots, which give 3 base armour and +6 on enchants, plus cool egos etc. If you find it early it's insane though, definitely wear until you find gloves/helms/boots and a better body slot.

oh ok i found it on dungeon 4 so pretty early

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

Oh I didn't know it was good early.

He's GrBe so it's not like he cares about encumbrance and there's no way he's going to get anything else as good as 27 AC in early game.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Thug Lessons posted:

He's GrBe so it's not like he cares about encumbrance and there's no way he's going to get anything else as good as 27 AC in early game.

True.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

Spider. Slime is meant for the end of the game, and even then you should probably avoid it unless you have preservation, unless something changed since the last time I played.

preservation doesn't exist anymore, since item destruction was destroyed, so what you want is either an amulet of resist corrosion or some artefact armour with rCorr.

but yeah slime is not meant for chars just clearing lair - true pros can sneak in and praise jiyva, but otherwise you are gonna get riddled with mutations, confused, paralyzed, and dead.

Swelter Discharge posted:

oh ok i found it on dungeon 4 so pretty early

ya that's gonna be game-defining right there. should carry you through at least lair, unless you die first.

be careful of orc priests and ice beasts and white ugly things, imo.

Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

PleasingFungus posted:

preservation doesn't exist anymore, since item destruction was destroyed, so what you want is either an amulet of resist corrosion or some artefact armour with rCorr.

but yeah slime is not meant for chars just clearing lair - true pros can sneak in and praise jiyva, but otherwise you are gonna get riddled with mutations, confused, paralyzed, and dead.


ya that's gonna be game-defining right there. should carry you through at least lair, unless you die first.

be careful of orc priests and ice beasts and white ugly things, imo.

I forgot about item destruction. And yeah mutation resistance is also important for slime.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
Yred actually works surprisingly well for VM. I can cast Venom Bolt through my allies and Iron Shot makes it really easy to use Enslave Soul because it kills everything in a few turns. I got a manual of long blade in Orc and decided to do that for melee, bought an elec long sword (poo poo base damage but it has elec + a bunch of resists), found Ring of Shaolin, enslaved Rupert, working on Haste, basically I just have to not gently caress up now and I'm golden.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Thug Lessons posted:

basically I just have to not gently caress up now and I'm golden.

:rip:

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
This is my friend, Rupert's ghost.

Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010

They made it illegal to have fun in this game. Report to FEMA for your injection of AIDS.

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Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
kobold chaos knight is easy mode

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