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Who will be the biggest flop of 2015??? This poll is closed. |
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| Adrian Neville |
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66 | 13.66% |
| Finn Balor |
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14 | 2.90% |
| Hideo Itami |
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176 | 36.44% |
| Kalisto |
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133 | 27.54% |
| Sami Zayn |
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36 | 7.45% |
| The Former Kevin Steen |
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58 | 12.01% |
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Liar Lyre posted:Non-Total Divas include AJ, Paige, Fox.....Layla? I don't watch Total Divas so I don't know the full cast, but that is slim Pretty soon it's gonna be down to AJ, Layla, and Emma. I hope the NXT women never get called up.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:25
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God dammit, Paige is better than that. They might as well just permanently attach the belt to AJ.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:37
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IcePhoenix posted:Yeah but there's maybe one Diva on the show who wouldn't be a terrible champion. Naomi or Nattie?
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Oct 20, 2014 22:37
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I Before E posted:Naomi or Nattie? Nattie. I could be talked into Nikki Bella as well if she keeps improving. I know people like Naomi but the rear view is the dumbest poo poo and I cannot get over that.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:42
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IcePhoenix posted:I know people like Naomi but the rear view is the dumbest poo poo and I cannot get over that. I was gonna say that Nattie can't cut a promo (based on what I've seen in the last year) but has Naomi ever cut a promo?
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Oct 20, 2014 22:45
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IcePhoenix posted:Nattie. I could be talked into Nikki Bella as well if she keeps improving. she hasn't won a match with the rear view in forever
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Oct 20, 2014 22:48
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In theory I'd be all for a division where all the actual workers compete for the belt while the "Divas" do the reality show and stay out of the title picture. Of course in reality even if they did shift Natalya, Paige, and maybe Naomi off the show they still wouldn't get any real time on TV or stories beyond jealousy and cattiness.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:50
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oatgan posted:she hasn't won a match with the rear view in forever I don't care if she wins with it though, it's that it exists at all in her moveset.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:25
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she's transitioning to a submission finisher iirc so hopefully she stops being objectified for her rear end soon.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:30
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Her last three or four wins have been with Mariko Yoshida's Spider Twist, and before that she's used various Final Cut variants. (Big Show style, not Goldust style.) Though Cameron hosed up tapping to the Spider Twist too early last time, so it came off as more like a bizarro chicken wing. If the Total Divas rule is in place, the belt basically is AJ's forever. Layla and Emma aren't going too be put in a PPV match any time soon and unless Tamina has gotten a shittonne better while injured, I don't know why they'd put it on her, either. But like I said in the TD thread, it's not like they would strip the belt off AJ if she agreed to be on TD. I imagine with Paige and Alicia Fox being added they'll drop that rule. WWE has done a lot of dumb stuff with women, but having a belt that can only be held by three people is too stupid even for them. edit: and to keep it vaguely NTX-related, I don't think this means any call-ups soon. All the NXT women are good but still need a little time.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:37
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What is it with them giving every diva a submission finisher these days? It's better then some of the half-assed moves they ended matches with before but it definitely seems like a trend. Naomi is really agile and athletic so I'd rather they give her some sort of acrobatic finisher to show off the things she's good at. It's been a really long time since a woman wrestler in the WWE has had a move off the turnbuckle as a finisher, right? A moonsault or something would help her stand out.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:40
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Baby Babbeh posted:What is it with them giving every diva a submission finisher these days? It's better then some of the half-assed moves they ended matches with before but it definitely seems like a trend. Paige got a jesus pop the first time she broke out the scorpion cross lock so now they're trying to see if that happens every time.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:43
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Submission moves are typically slower and more methodical, so it's harder to gently caress them up and virtually impossible for anybody to actually be injured. When you're talking about a group of people who sometimes have trouble running the ropes, it's best to keep their move sets as safe as possible. Either that or somebody high-up has a thing for watching women screaming and submitting, which wouldn't wholly surprise me with WWE's track record.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:45
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Baby Babbeh posted:What is it with them giving every diva a submission finisher these days? It's better then some of the half-assed moves they ended matches with before but it definitely seems like a trend. Naomi is really agile and athletic so I'd rather they give her some sort of acrobatic finisher to show off the things she's good at. It's been a really long time since a woman wrestler in the WWE has had a move off the turnbuckle as a finisher, right? A moonsault or something would help her stand out. She should use the Harlem Hangover. Just don't, uh, don't call it anything like that.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:56
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Under the vegetable posted:She should use the Harlem Hangover. Just don't, uh, don't call it anything like that. Maybe I'm misremembering Harlem finishers, since they had five or six of them, but wasn't that Booker T's top rope flip legdrop? That didn't even look safe when he did it and he's good at wrestling. If you start throwing those around with divas, somebody's going to die.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:11
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Baby Babbeh posted:What is it with them giving every diva a submission finisher these days? It's better then some of the half-assed moves they ended matches with before but it definitely seems like a trend. Naomi is really agile and athletic so I'd rather they give her some sort of acrobatic finisher to show off the things she's good at. It's been a really long time since a woman wrestler in the WWE has had a move off the turnbuckle as a finisher, right? A moonsault or something would help her stand out. She was using a split-legged moonsault for awhile during her pirate phase. She probably dropped it because that move never connects for anyone.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:29
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Pretty Lady Blob posted:Pretty soon it's gonna be down to AJ, Layla, and Emma. I hope the NXT women never get called up.  Why, Paige? I thought I heard her and AJ were both vehemently against joining the cast. It's especially a weird move knowing how much winning the title meant to her.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:55
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sticklefifer posted:
I wonder if her being Summer's travel buddy played a part.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:57
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I wonder if significant amounts of money had anything to do with it. Hmm
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Oct 21, 2014 01:38
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In the documentary about her family, Paige makes it pretty clear that she wants to do everything Diva-esque. I don't think there's much she'd turn down.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:27
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Baby Babbeh posted:What is it with them giving every diva a submission finisher these days? It's better then some of the half-assed moves they ended matches with before but it definitely seems like a trend. Naomi is really agile and athletic so I'd rather they give her some sort of acrobatic finisher to show off the things she's good at. It's been a really long time since a woman wrestler in the WWE has had a move off the turnbuckle as a finisher, right? A moonsault or something would help her stand out. The ladies, being smaller on average than the guys, have a more difficult time making impact and slam moves look and sound convincing. Some of them are great at it but for a lot of the others submissions are much more appropriate. Flexibility also probably plays a role for the same reason Jericho couldn't do the Liontamer in WWE because he was facing a lot of bigger guys and against REALLY big guys the Walls of Jericho looks completely pathetic. Aerial/top rope moves would also work but if Rosa Mendes tried to do a moonsault she could very well launch herself forward into the crowd and kill someone. That said I haven't watched a women's match on Raw that wasn't Paige vs AJ in months and I'm barely paying attention to that feud anymore so maybe Rosa's pulling off SSPs every week and I'm just not seeing it. TriffTshngo fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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Oct 21, 2014 03:48
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Anyone going to the NXT tapings this Thursday? With or without Seth it is an interesting show as it tapes up until NXT Network Special.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:02
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rovert posted:Random pictures from @gravenbabies on Twitter from last night's live event. 
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Oct 21, 2014 04:35
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pressedbunny posted:Submission moves are typically slower and more methodical, so it's harder to gently caress them up and virtually impossible for anybody to actually be injured. When you're talking about a group of people who sometimes have trouble running the ropes, it's best to keep their move sets as safe as possible. I think its more the higher ups are confused why women's wrestling is popular at all.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:50
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PWInsider:quote:Former NWA champion Adam Pearce is once again working as a guest trainer for the week at the WWE Performance Center. This is Pearce’s second or third time working as a guest trainer for the company. Wonder if he is going to be offered Nick Dinsmore's role. Personally heard Brian Kendrick is trying to get a job there too.
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Oct 21, 2014 12:05
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rovert posted:PWInsider: Spanky could be great. They don't have anyone there focused on fast-paced offense and he was a little dude with actual personality. Also, the Shawn Michaels lineage can't hurt.
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Oct 21, 2014 12:51
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we'll have CJ Parker cutting promos about how the sun is actually really cold
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Oct 21, 2014 13:19
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sportsgenius86 posted:we'll have CJ Parker cutting promos about how the sun is actually really cold I can't wait.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:28
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They should get Muta to come in and guest train. Just to teach people how to be cranky and old.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:32
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coconono posted:They should get Muta to come in and guest train. Just to teach people how to be cranky and old. Isn't that what DeMott is for?
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Oct 21, 2014 18:15
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BlueArmyMan posted:Isn't that what DeMott is for? Nah, he's there to help people cope with being told to get in better shape by a guy who was fat and slow his entire career.
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Oct 21, 2014 18:17
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coconono posted:They should get Muta to come in and guest train. Just to teach people how to be cranky and old. He could teach Blading 101
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Oct 21, 2014 18:18
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Does Dean Malenko train guys or just do road agent things? Because If not he totally should.
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Oct 21, 2014 18:31
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Corzaa posted:Does Dean Malenko train guys or just do road agent things? Because If not he totally should. I would imagine there's some coaching involved in a hands-off capacity, but he's mostly doing agent stuff.
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Oct 21, 2014 18:48
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coconono posted:They should get Muta to come in and guest train. Just to teach people how to be cranky and old. How to somehow do a barrel roll and a competent shining wizard despite barely being able to walk anymore.
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Oct 22, 2014 01:41
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Uhaa Nation is widely reported as being there trying out but is Buff Busick at the WWE tryout too? Anyone know.
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Oct 22, 2014 02:31
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rovert posted:Uhaa Nation is widely reported as being there trying out but is Buff Busick at the WWE tryout too? Anyone know. It would make sense given the sudden dropping of the CZW belt
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Oct 22, 2014 03:04
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sportsgenius86 posted:It would make sense given the sudden dropping of the CZW belt he also hasn't been in japan since he dropped the triangle gate.
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Oct 22, 2014 03:06
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Busick does not seem like the WWE type. But then again I would have said the same about Steen before 6 months ago. Uhaa Nation seems right in their ballpark though, he's like a Titus O'Neil that can actually wrestle.
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Oct 22, 2014 04:35
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Grozz Nuy posted:Busick does not seem like the WWE type. But then again I would have said the same about Steen before 6 months ago. Uhaa Nation seems right in their ballpark though, he's like a Titus O'Neil that can actually wrestle.
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