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This is the most enduring image of Alistair Overeem. No, it's not him knocking out Badr Hari, it's not him licking his lips at the thought of horse meat, it's an image that repeats itself throughout Overeem's fighting career - knocked the gently caress out. And yet Overeem remains one of the highest paid athletes in the UFC and despite being a complete dud as a title contender people still care about him.  There was a period from maybe 2009-2011 where we really believed that Overeem was the next big thing. We watched his online documentary, followed his exploits in kickboxing and MMA and eagerly wondered how he would perform against heavyweight greats such as Brock Lesnar and Fedor Emelianenko. This was before he lost a series of increasingly funny fights, before we understood what a lovely training partner he was, before he roamed aimlessly from gym to gym looking for that missing ingredient that would send him on a title run. I want to go back to that time, when winning an ADCC European qualifier was an important fact, when beating up Brett Rogers was considered a dominant performance, when the specter of his hilarious light-heavyweight losses was blamed on him being just too big for 205. "You Truly Can't Stand Up Until You Fall" -A Russian Wizard It was really hard to decided where to really start off with Overeem's career, because so much of it is loving funny. So instead of wading through random fights he had in RINGS or beating up some nobodies in Pride, let's go back to a time when Overeem was poised to make a big splash in the MMA world, participating in perhaps the most important light-heavyweight tournament ever. http://www.ufc.tv/video/chuck-liddell-vs-alistair-overeem-pride-total-elimination-2003 I'm not sure who Overeem pissed off to draw Chuck Liddell in the first round of the Pride 2003 MWGP. Maybe in 2003 people didn't realize that Chuck Liddell was kind of good. Maybe they were betting on Overeem to murdalize Chuck with his Dutch Drugged Kickboxing. Maybe they saw his loss to Randy as a sign that he was on the downside of his career. But...we kind of know how these things go for Alistair, when he's supposed to crush a fighter only to lose in a really funny way. I haven't been an MMA fan for as long as some of you guys, so how did people kind of think this fight was going to play out back then? I mean when it comes to quality of competition Chuck had already fought and beaten a bunch of guys who were better than Overeem at this point. As for the fight itself, Overeem doesn't do too bad initially. He lands some great knees and hurts Chuck with a punch that lands flush on his chin. Despite being caught in a scramble that sees Chuck launch a bunch of ground knees, he manages to defend and get back up and start landing his own knees again. But he starts lingering in the pocket while exchanging with Chuck and gasses. Then comes the BRH and the end of the fight, ushering in perhaps the most lackluster run of his fighting career*  (*only because at least he's getting paid to get murdered by Ben Rothwell) I don't have many goals in life, but by god one of them is to laugh at fighters losing in funny ways and Overeem delivers in strange and surprising ways. This thread is a celebration of Overeem's perpetual misfortune.
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Overeem was supposed to get squashed in the Chuck fight. He was a prospect at best by that point.
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Oct 20, 2014 03:42
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Yea I fully support this thread but in the long list of winnable fights that overeem lost chuck wasn't really one of them.
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Oct 20, 2014 04:07
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My favorite Alistair picture the look on Herb Dean's face. bonus as a kid: https://knoxxgear.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/overeemyoung.jpg
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Oct 20, 2014 05:05
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i'm really not sure he would beat fedor back in the time that fedor was ducking him
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Oct 20, 2014 05:10
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Oct 20, 2014 05:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1EGoM9LbU4
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Oct 20, 2014 05:12
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:i'm really not sure he would beat fedor back in the time that fedor was ducking him I don't think he would have beaten Fedor when Fedor was losing to people.
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Oct 20, 2014 05:39
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:i'm really not sure he would beat fedor back in the time that fedor was ducking him Fedor probably would have knocked him out
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Oct 20, 2014 06:02
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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I will never stop laughing at 'leave me alone brother, ive never seen you before' as fat Sergei clocks Overeem in the back of the head.
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Oct 20, 2014 06:07
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Overeem was supposed to get squashed in the Chuck fight. He was a prospect at best by that point. I don't think he was meant to get squashed, but I don't doubt that pride wanted to protect Wanderlei and possibly Quinton. Kind of funny too because Dana and Chuck apparently game planned for Chuck to keep the gently caress out of Rampage's range and work lots of kicks to the legs only for him not to bother and get knocked out. Overeem always struck me as a guy more in love with being a "pro fighter" or "athlete" than actually fighting. Guys like Chuck to stick with the middleweight GP relished the competition, I think overeem likes the idea of not having to do a day job rather than being driven. Realistically he's had to work hard, but I don't think he's ever truly pushed himself on the level of guys like GSP or Weidman.
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Oct 20, 2014 06:45
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BlindSite posted:I don't think he was meant to get squashed, but I don't doubt that pride wanted to protect Wanderlei and possibly Quinton. Kind of funny too because Dana and Chuck apparently game planned for Chuck to keep the gently caress out of Rampage's range and work lots of kicks to the legs only for him not to bother and get knocked out. Not so much "not to bother" as "to fight with a torn hamstring"
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Oct 20, 2014 06:59
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fatherdog posted:Not so much "not to bother" as "to fight with a torn hamstring" I didn't remember that from his book. He was crazy that way. Fought Randy with a torn knee too.
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Oct 20, 2014 07:10
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How can you talk about that BRH but not post a gif of it? It was a god-drat beautiful punch. 
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Oct 20, 2014 07:39
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Somebody post that Gif of him and the no weapons sign. I am an unabashed Reem fan and never miss watching the man fight. Always good for some excitement. My favorite Reem moment was either him almost flying out of the cage attempting a knee in DREAM, or the time he kneed brock in his dick sword and the sound brock made after Pwny_Xpress fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Oct 20, 2014 08:31
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fatherdog posted:Not so much "not to bother" as "to fight with a torn hamstring" I thought it was a quad, but Dana fuming on commentary about Chuck not following the gameplan is funny as hell
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Oct 20, 2014 10:18
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I like Overeem because he has the physique and accent of a world class champion (GSP, Silva, Aldo) and makes Arianny and Joe Rogan go crazy when he weighs in. It makes me sad he insists on getting knocked out by flabby, balding mechanics and plumbers. He's the HW champion we want but not the one we deserve. Someone post a picture diary cataloging the rise and fall of his T levels. I remember the fight right after he got busted, the right side of his body was visibly smaller than the left. It was like someone hadn't finished letting all the air out of a camping mattress.
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Oct 20, 2014 15:13
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Alistair Overeem is a true artist. A man who can show us the the highest highest and lowest lows, who brings out in us the full range of human emotion. Mostly he bring me happiness
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Oct 20, 2014 15:36
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Hi. I was a big Overeem fan. I was pretty excited when he won the K-1 WGP (I wanted Gita to win more but alas). I was the only one of my friends happy with the outcome of the Brock fight. I knew the Strikeforce fights never meant much of anything. When he first lost to Bigfoot I thought "He fought with his hands down by his hips. He didn't respect Bigfoot at all. Any big dude can knock another big dude out. Overeem was being stupid". When he fought Browne I said "Wow, that sucks. What a strange coincidence". When he fought Rothwell I said "There's no way Ben loving Rothwell leaves the cage alive". I'm mostly just sad it took me three fights to come to reality.
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Oct 20, 2014 16:09
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I like Overeem and it's depressing when he gets knocked out in every fight he should win easily
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Oct 21, 2014 00:17
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I wasn't watching MMA back in the Pride days and I never got into Strikeforce while it existed, but Overeem came and destroyed Brock Lesnar. That fact keeps getting more and more hilarious the longer he continues to lose to Big Ben Rothwell and fail to finish Frank Mir. So despite being overrated and terrible, Alistair Overeem has my thanks.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:25
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Bluedeanie posted:I wasn't watching MMA back in the Pride days and I never got into Strikeforce while it existed, but Overeem came and destroyed Brock Lesnar. That fact keeps getting more and more hilarious the longer he continues to lose to Big Ben Rothwell and fail to finish Frank Mir. So despite being overrated and terrible, Alistair Overeem has my thanks. Yeah but Brock Lesnar is like a putty insofar as he has a clearly marked weak spot on his torso that causes him to disapparate back to lord zedd's castle.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:35
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gimpsuitjones posted:I like Overeem and it's depressing when he gets knocked out in every fight he should win easily Change depressing to hilarious and you get my opinion on the Reem. I always get excited for him fighting because I will get to see either a knee-induced death or a Dutchman with a paper mache chin crumble despite everything going his way.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-paRIf5hWys 1:38
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Oct 21, 2014 00:51
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:i'm really not sure he would beat fedor back in the time that fedor was ducking him That would actually have been interesting, just like Fedor vs Couture, Fedor vs Mir, Fedor vs Lesnar, Fedor vs Barnett, or Fedor vs any top heavyweight between 2006 and 2010.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:18
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If Overeem could've taken Fedor down early maybe he could've gotten a stoppage. But looking at his performances in his last few fights it's hard not to imagine him getting murdered by a casting overhand right.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:22
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Then again if he clinched with Fedor he might have cracked his skull in twain. Thus is Alistair.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:26
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1st AD posted:If Overeem could've taken Fedor down early maybe he could've gotten a stoppage. But looking at his performances in his last few fights it's hard not to imagine him getting murdered by a casting overhand right. Fedor was still a dangerous dude even in his decline, but Overeem would have been his most roided final form if he ever had the chance to fight Fedor so I think he could have won by stoppage. I wonder if Alistair could do it all over again if he would have gone on TRT before everybody else.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:32
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Bubba Smith posted:Fedor was still a dangerous dude even in his decline, but Overeem would have been his most roided final form if he ever had the chance to fight Fedor so I think he could have won by stoppage. This all true but the point your missing is that Overeem is bad, was bad, and always will be bad.
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Oct 21, 2014 03:25
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I still want to see Alistair vs semmy schilt. Once he is kicked out the UFC, maybe I will get my wish.
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Oct 21, 2014 03:28
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I think that Strikeforce Overeem would beat Fedor, honestly. He seemed to give powerful punches a little respect at that point and might have actually moved around to avoid the baseball punch. Current Overeem? Too arrogant, would be kod inside a round.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:06
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I still want to see Alistair vs semmy schilt. semmy schilt isn't allowed to fight anymore. i think he has a heart condition, which is really funny because struve really is the shittier schilt in all respects (all props for joke "semi-schilt"). also, despite being severely retired glory still rank him as #2 in the world
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Oct 21, 2014 04:08
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I think that Strikeforce Overeem would beat Fedor, honestly. He seemed to give powerful punches a little respect at that point and might have actually moved around to avoid the baseball punch. Current Overeem? Too arrogant, would be kod inside a round. Overeem has never been especially mobile and his defense entirely consisted of covering up and hoping to god the other person gassed before running out of punches or finding his chin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIYoAG9MZ0&t=265s Although in this fight I guess he ducked a bunch because K1 had weird rules about knees, but once he got cracked Overeem just didn't have anything resembling intelligent defense. I'm still kind of sifting through his Pride fights so maybe he fought differently at 205.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:19
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Overeem is the living embodiment of heavyweight mma. Endlessly entertaining
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Oct 21, 2014 04:22
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wtf, this video is 3.5 years old? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDT1r55vwjM Imo, the height of Overeem's "he's got potential" days was Overeem x Shogun 1. For those first 2 minutes, he really took it to Shogun and made a hell of a fight.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:25
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I think that Strikeforce Overeem would beat Fedor, honestly. He seemed to give powerful punches a little respect at that point and might have actually moved around to avoid the baseball punch. Current Overeem? Too arrogant, would be kod inside a round. There was no strikeforce overeem. He's been the same guy the entire time. He was the definition of a can crusher but everyone ignored it because he was jacked.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:29
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1st AD posted:Overeem has never been especially mobile and his defense entirely consisted of covering up and hoping to god the other person gassed before running out of punches or finding his chin. Canfight, but look at his fight with Brett Rodgers. He at least made an effort to move around and get out of the way in addition to shelling up. Modern Overeem just plods forward with his hands down because he doesn't respect his opponent's striking and in his dumb Dutch brain this somehow means he himself doesn't need to employ any type of striking skill to win.
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Oct 21, 2014 04:54
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I applaud Overeem for doing his best to build his body to look as Mark Kerr-esque as possible
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Oct 21, 2014 04:56
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The agony, the ecstasy
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Could someone please post a gif of this man being slain by an ogre
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