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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007



vOv posted:

for some reason legal documents tend to be kinda repetitive: 'cease and desist', 'terms and conditions', 'true and correct', 'breaking and entering', etc.

A legal doublet is a standardized phrase used frequently in English legal language which consists of two or more words which are near synonyms. The origin of the doubling and sometimes even tripling often lies in the transition of legal language from Latin to French. Certain words were simply given in their Latin, French and/or English forms, often pairing an English word (or a more archaic Anglo-Saxon word) with a Latin or French synonym, so as to ensure understanding. Such phrases can often be pleonasms.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet

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Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

"..fight the mighty bearwhale by throwing all their money at it

then much celebrating occurred after the bearwhle left after eating all their money

i still don't get it"

-Me on Sept 20th, 2015


more like "the time i emailed an obviously fake guy and he emailed me back and im not going to read all those words about a twitter account

Thesoro
Dec 6, 2005

YOU CANNOT LEARN
TO WHISTLE

Sweevo posted:

A legal doublet is a standardized phrase used frequently in English legal language which consists of two or more words which are near synonyms. The origin of the doubling and sometimes even tripling often lies in the transition of legal language from Latin to French. Certain words were simply given in their Latin, French and/or English forms, often pairing an English word (or a more archaic Anglo-Saxon word) with a Latin or French synonym, so as to ensure understanding. Such phrases can often be pleonasms.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet
"keep and maintain" is my go-to example when explaining this trivia b/c they're clear synonyms and have clearly different langs of origin

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


Sweevo posted:

A legal doublet is a standardized phrase used frequently in English legal language which consists of two or more words which are near synonyms. The origin of the doubling and sometimes even tripling often lies in the transition of legal language from Latin to French. Certain words were simply given in their Latin, French and/or English forms, often pairing an English word (or a more archaic Anglo-Saxon word) with a Latin or French synonym, so as to ensure understanding. Such phrases can often be pleonasms.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet

this is incredibly neat, i always assumed it was just someone being repetitive to make sure that they covered all their bases

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value



everything will be so much simpler and clearer when the state is decentralized and law resides on the law chain. clumsy Latin phrases will be replaced with simple php objects cryptographically signed with elaborate hash functions.

everyone will do what the computers say, unless they have enough hashpower to appeal. if the lawchain decides to start torturing people, you could always just murder everyone out of mercy and/or spite, too.

Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!



is this dude trying to actively bore people to death or what

Dren
Jan 5, 2001



Pillbug

postin' from the trollbox

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003



Sweevo posted:

A legal doublet is a standardized phrase used frequently in English legal language which consists of two or more words which are near synonyms. The origin of the doubling and sometimes even tripling often lies in the transition of legal language from Latin to French. Certain words were simply given in their Latin, French and/or English forms, often pairing an English word (or a more archaic Anglo-Saxon word) with a Latin or French synonym, so as to ensure understanding. Such phrases can often be pleonasms.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet

english is so rad

Thesoro
Dec 6, 2005

YOU CANNOT LEARN
TO WHISTLE

TVarmy posted:

everything will be so much simpler and clearer when the state is decentralized and law resides on the law chain. clumsy Latin phrases will be replaced with simple php objects cryptographically signed with elaborate hash functions.

everyone will do what the computers say, unless they have enough hashpower to appeal. if the lawchain decides to start torturing people, you could always just murder everyone out of mercy and/or spite, too.
replace all legal documents with lojban

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.


duTrieux. posted:

english is so rad

anyone interested in that kind of thing should watch the documentary series "the adventure of english", it's fascinating and very accessible

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


Gravy Boat 2k

Heresiarch posted:

anyone interested in that kind of thing should watch the documentary series "the adventure of english", it's fascinating and very accessible
also read the mother tongue by bill bryson

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

Trophy-ko says:
~death to capitalism~

Hilalry is 45


also read this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McWhorter

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.


Sham bam bamina! posted:

also read the mother tongue by bill bryson

seconded

bucketmouse
Aug 16, 2004

we con-trol the ho-ri-zon-tal
we con-trol the verrr-ti-cal


Sham bam bamina! posted:

also read the mother tongue by bill bryson

yeah this

magnificent bastard tongue is good too

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fuck your duck dynasty

Do bitcoiners have anything to say about quantum computers likely turning public key cryptography into poo poo sometime this or next decade? I know that they think that their butts are going to last forever, but before long mankind is going to develop a capability that destroys the foundation upon which they've placed their hopes and dreams,and and even the most hardcore holdouts will be hosed then

It's like the end of any pyramid scheme but a million times more extreme, because even your worthless tulip bulbs get taken away

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007



b b b b but based on math!

vOv
Feb 8, 2014



QuarkJets posted:

Do bitcoiners have anything to say about quantum computers likely turning public key cryptography into poo poo sometime this or next decade? I know that they think that their butts are going to last forever, but before long mankind is going to develop a capability that destroys the foundation upon which they've placed their hopes and dreams,and and even the most hardcore holdouts will be hosed then

It's like the end of any pyramid scheme but a million times more extreme, because even your worthless tulip bulbs get taken away

lol if you think that quantum computers are going to start factorizing large numbers 'this or next decade'

also iirc bitcoin is actually quantum-safe if you don't reuse addresses

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.


QuarkJets posted:

Do bitcoiners have anything to say about quantum computers likely turning public key cryptography into poo poo sometime this or next decade? I know that they think that their butts are going to last forever, but before long mankind is going to develop a capability that destroys the foundation upon which they've placed their hopes and dreams,and and even the most hardcore holdouts will be hosed then

It's like the end of any pyramid scheme but a million times more extreme, because even your worthless tulip bulbs get taken away

on the wiki, so it is already solved.

they'll just update to a new protocol, which will require the cooperation of everyone on earth and cause a hard fork, and likely freeze or roll back all transactions from the time of breaking to the time of the update. bitcoins!

edit: also yes if you don't reuse addresses, you should be safe, in theory, but in practice lol to both people not reusing addresses (there's like a million vanity address generators, some of which probbably don't even steal your coins!) and to the idea that bitcoin is ever safe.

if quantum computers are loving up financial transactions everywhere, bitcoin is the last place you want your money because you are never going to get your money back after things go to hell.

Crust First fucked around with this message at Nov 22, 2014 around 23:26

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fuck your duck dynasty

vOv posted:

lol if you think that quantum computers are going to start factorizing large numbers 'this or next decade'

also iirc bitcoin is actually quantum-safe if you don't reuse addresses

Factorization was actually the first quantum algorithm to be solved, so yeah, I think it's really feasible

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fuck your duck dynasty

Crust First posted:

on the wiki, so it is already solved.

they'll just update to a new protocol, which will require the cooperation of everyone on earth and cause a hard fork, and likely freeze or roll back all transactions from the time of breaking to the time of the update. bitcoins!

edit: also yes if you don't reuse addresses, you should be safe, in theory, but in practice lol to both people not reusing addresses (there's like a million vanity address generators, some of which probbably don't even steal your coins!) and to the idea that bitcoin is ever safe.

if quantum computers are loving up financial transactions everywhere, bitcoin is the last place you want your money because you are never going to get your money back after things go to hell.

Yeah but a bitcoiner isn't going to give a poo poo about that last argument because the banks are all going to collapse in a year or two anyway

vOv
Feb 8, 2014



QuarkJets posted:

Factorization was actually the first quantum algorithm to be solved, so yeah, I think it's really feasible

it's not a question of implementing the algorithm it's a question of building a computer that's large enough to actually factor cryptography-scale numbers

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture







College Slice

QuarkJets posted:

Factorization was actually the first quantum algorithm to be solved, so yeah, I think it's really feasible

nobody is even close to building the hardware that can run those algorithms (except the nsa probably and also maybe the chinese security apparatus)

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

THIS DUDE HERE IS A REAL CLOWN



I was disappointed that this wasn't the :::VERB::: or whatever NewSpeak guy.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fuck your duck dynasty

the talent deficit posted:

nobody is even close to building the hardware that can run those algorithms (except the nsa probably and also maybe the chinese security apparatus)

There are challenges, but bitcoiners believe that their currency will last forever, and that's a timescale on which the challenge of breaking the encryption behind bitcoin becomes inevitable. The last bitcoins are supposed to be mined in 2150 or something stupid like that, but mining is based on an algorithm that will inevitably be defeated much sooner than that.

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value



^^^^ really the most comical and satisfying way for bitcoin to die is not through brute government force, moneyed interests, or an exploit in the protocol using existing or future tech, but instead through the free market slowly strangling it as bitcoiners blame its death on socialism.

friendly reminder that the 29th will be when bitcoin's all time high was last year. it'll be a ~69% loss if the price stays stable until then.

after that i guess ill just have to sperg over doors until silk road and auction happenings happen again.

TVarmy fucked around with this message at Nov 23, 2014 around 01:00

Krankenstyle
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



The Redditor in the back room with the negative ROI

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


Snapchat A Titty posted:

The Redditor in the back room with the negative ROI

I'm genuinely curious what percentage of hodlers left are the "don't look at me I mined at 10 bux"

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


Hey it's Stephen Merchant here, writer/director/star of Hello Ladies:The Movie AMA

submitted 8 hours ago * by MrStephenMerchantStephen Merchant

[]scotty321 87 points 7 hours ago

Did you see all the dozens of Bitcoin donations that you received for your birthday in response to your Twitter request for 1 from everyone? That is real money that you can save or spend!

[]MrStephenMerchantStephen Merchant[S] 323 points 7 hours ago

I didn't realise. I thought bitcoin was made up, like God

Krankenstyle
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Alan Smithee posted:

I'm genuinely curious what percentage of hodlers left are the "don't look at me I mined at 10 bux"

ive never bothered doing the math but im assuming that mining hasnt been profitable (suppose easy btc<>usd exchange) since it went from cpus to gpus/whatever else

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

"..fight the mighty bearwhale by throwing all their money at it

then much celebrating occurred after the bearwhle left after eating all their money

i still don't get it"

-Me on Sept 20th, 2015

Alan Smithee posted:

Hey it's Stephen Merchant here, writer/director/star of Hello Ladies:The Movie AMA

submitted 8 hours ago * by MrStephenMerchantStephen Merchant

[]scotty321 87 points 7 hours ago

Did you see all the dozens of Bitcoin donations that you received for your birthday in response to your Twitter request for 1 from everyone? That is real money that you can save or spend!

[]MrStephenMerchantStephen Merchant[S] 323 points 7 hours ago

I didn't realise. I thought bitcoin was made up, like God

5

suffix
Jul 27, 2013

Wheeee!


all the dozens

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007



what's the timeline for the next auction by the way?

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

The X-Files will return in a moment.



http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/dpr-bitcoins/

Dec. 1 - Bidders must be registered
Dec. 4 - Bids must be submitted
Dec. 5 - Winners will be notified
Dec. 8 - Winners must pay
Dec. 9 - All Bitcoins will be transferred to bidders

Krankenstyle
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



imma bid like two dollar for the lot

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands



College Slice

uh looks like the buttcoin foundation has been shut down

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!


Oven Wrangler

i hope its someone trying to take them down and not forgetting to pay the bills

maybe bfl is claiming they own the content

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


Gravy Boat 2k

A Pinball Wizard posted:

uh looks like the buttcoin foundation has been shut down
i don't like this happening

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value



the fcc found out somebody said the one word you can't say on the internet.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

picture me workin McDonald's!
I'd rather pull a mac on you
sorry Ms. Jackson, but I'm packin


Pillbug

what happen w/buttcoin

Alan Smithee posted:

Hey it's Stephen Merchant here, writer/director/star of Hello Ladies:The Movie AMA

submitted 8 hours ago * by MrStephenMerchantStephen Merchant

[]scotty321 87 points 7 hours ago

Did you see all the dozens of Bitcoin donations that you received for your birthday in response to your Twitter request for 1 from everyone? That is real money that you can save or spend!

[]MrStephenMerchantStephen Merchant[S] 323 points 7 hours ago

I didn't realise. I thought bitcoin was made up, like God

take my 5s, please

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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

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