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Agents tried asking DPR how best to liquidate the bitcoins they stole from his site
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FCKGW posted:Not going to link the whole thing but pages 41-43 of the complaint relates to at least one of the silk road murder-for-hires that ulbricht has yet to be charged with no loving wonder they didn't go through on the murder for hire charges. they'd be asking the jury to believe a federal agent that was stealing the money for his own use
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Mar 30, 2015 20:47
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upcoming dpr trials should be amazinghobbesmaster posted:no loving wonder they didn't go through on the murder for hire charges. they'd be asking the jury to believe a federal agent that was stealing the money for his own use
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Mar 30, 2015 20:50
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kalensc posted:imagine french maid following the DPR trial while already under investigation wherein he freaks out 
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Mar 30, 2015 20:50
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Wait wait wait. So it's not just that Ross/DPR/Mark tried to have some murdered by hitman, but that the hitman and the victim (or someone posing as the victim) were both actually federal agents, one (or both?) of whom were stealing bitcoins on the side for their own profit?
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Mar 30, 2015 20:52
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/30tudk/psa_5_reddit_accounts_subpoenaed_by_ice/ /r/darknetmarkets had the data of five reddit accounts subpoenaed by law enforcement, including the mod posting that message who states in it that they have purchased drugs from dark net markets in the past
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Mar 30, 2015 20:53
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Malloreon posted:Wait wait wait. i think its that a fed stole the stuff, DPR asked another admin who was a fed about killing someone who hooked him up with a third fed? its literally feds the entire way down its amazing
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Mar 30, 2015 20:55
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i mean even the criminals were feds!
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Mar 30, 2015 20:55
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you know, i genuinely thought the craziness had leveled off, but then CARL MARK FORCE IV showed up and now i don't know what to believe
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Mar 30, 2015 20:58
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hobbesmaster posted:i think its that a fed stole the stuff, DPR asked another admin who was a fed about killing someone who hooked him up with a third fed? I don't think the hookup happened, fed #2 just replied "yeah I totally know a guy, I'll call in a favor" and then helped fed #1 pretend to have been rubbed out by a hitman who never existed at all
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Mar 30, 2015 20:58
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hobbesmaster posted:i think its that a fed stole the stuff, DPR asked another admin who was a fed about killing someone who hooked him up with a third fed? Kinda, an admin was flipped and the fed started using his account to drain the vendor accounts at SR. DPR contacted a high level, tough guy vendor, who was also a fed to have the admin killed and was paid. Both feds worked together with the real admin to stage his death. Feds got paid and real admin was sent to jail.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:59
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the two agents texted each other about bitcoin going to the moon
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Mar 30, 2015 21:00
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lol no one knew wtf was real anymore, its drugs and bitcoins all the way down
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Mar 30, 2015 21:00
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hmmm, any chance this will give ulbricht leverage for a successful appeal?
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Mar 30, 2015 21:00
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he still has a diary full of crimes backed up by an imaged server full of crimes
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Mar 30, 2015 21:02
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univbee posted:hmmm, any chance this will give ulbricht leverage for a successful appeal? it will make the appeal interesting, that's for sure i suspect it'll be more relevant to the murder for hire charges though
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Mar 30, 2015 21:03
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lets use texts to discuss our criminal stuff, no way that stuff is linked to you and archived until the earth melts
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Mar 30, 2015 21:04
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unpacked robinhood posted:lol no one knew wtf was real anymore, its drugs and bitcoins all the way down a scanner dorkly
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Mar 30, 2015 21:04
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this is described as "murder for hire #1" in this article http://www.businessinsider.com/silk-road-boss-ordered-6-assassinations-and-owned-20-million-in-bitcoins-feds-claim-2013-11 the next section under "murder for hire #2" is also quite amusing, the dialogue with "redandwhite", which you can read in the original DPR filing, reads like a cheesy 419-style scam dont have the link for the specific section of the filing but here's an analysis of the name choice https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3816#p5049
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Mar 30, 2015 21:05
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univbee posted:hmmm, any chance this will give ulbricht leverage for a successful appeal? they talked around this stuff for the most part and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with his actual charges i wonder if they'll go ahead with the murder for hire stuff, if so a USA is going to have to explain why they should trust the federal agents in prison for extorting the guy on trial for personal profit
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Mar 30, 2015 21:05
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is it murder if everyone is roleplaying
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Mar 30, 2015 21:08
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like if the trial goes forward and DPR is acquitted because the jury thinks "uh well the cops were actually criminals or something so I don't know if I can believe a single word said in this courtroom" after which the USA becomes a laughing stock for not being able to convict the guy with a diary detailing his crimes
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Mar 30, 2015 21:08
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how can this poo poo keep getting more funny i mean, at what point are we just going to snap and never be able to laugh at other things^
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Mar 30, 2015 21:09
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I said this in the grey thread but I wasn't sure then, I'm pretty fuckin' sure now No wonder Ross' defense team was have conniption fits trying to get the agents who investigated him onto the stand, they were blackmailing him, stealing bitcoins, extorting people, and pretending to kill each other they probably could have gotten an acquittal out of this ridiculous bullshit
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Mar 30, 2015 21:09
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unpacked robinhood posted:is it murder if everyone is roleplaying ross just keeps rolling 1s
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Mar 30, 2015 21:11
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CapnAndy posted:I said this in the grey thread but I wasn't sure then, I'm pretty fuckin' sure now tbf they didn't convict him on anything related to all that bullshit
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Mar 30, 2015 21:13
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hobbesmaster posted:tbf they didn't convict him on anything related to all that bullshit maybe not but if he was able to get it admitted at trial that the cops were blackmailing him for something silk road-related that would likely throw off the jury enough to acquit him
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Mar 30, 2015 21:14
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hobbesmaster posted:like if the trial goes forward and DPR is acquitted because the jury thinks "uh well the cops were actually criminals or something so I don't know if I can believe a single word said in this courtroom" after which the USA becomes a laughing stock for not being able to convict the guy with a diary detailing his crimes bitcoin is going to bring down the us government after all guess we were all wrong
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Mar 30, 2015 21:15
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hobbesmaster posted:tbf they didn't convict him on anything related to all that bullshit
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Mar 30, 2015 21:16
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surebet posted:how can this poo poo keep getting more funny it's like how spinal tap turn their amps up to 11 but with laughs.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:17
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hobbesmaster posted:tbf they didn't convict him on anything related to all that bullshit who cares you present all this to a jury about what the agents were up to while investigating dpr and you've got a good shot at an aquittal from a jury who no longer believes a word the government says, maybe they accept the conclusion the rogue agents planted it all at the end of the day all of the evidence passed through the government's hands so if you can convince people the fbi is corrupt as all hell suddenly a conviction becomes a lot harder even with mycrimes.txt as verified by the agent that caught these two nimrods
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Mar 30, 2015 21:17
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hobbesmaster posted:so the undercover federal agents thought "these guys are so stupid i could easily just blackmail them for $100k" but forgot that they were using USG computers he did this from a computer at his job at the Department of Defence
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Mar 30, 2015 21:19
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evilweasel posted:who cares Honestly I don't know how they go through with the murder-for-hire charges now, especially since it looks like the whole thing was kicked off by federal agents committing actual crimes and Ross basically contracted one federal agent to target another one, the government does not look good here
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Mar 30, 2015 21:19
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 Yesss a hundred new posts in the buttcoin thread, it must have crashedquote:Two former federal agents are expected to be arrested on Monday on charges of stealing money while working undercover on an investigation into Silk Road, the once-thriving black market website for drug dealing, a document shows. 
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Mar 30, 2015 21:23
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best case would be a retrial where this new evidence is admitted so we get to hear more from mycrimes.odt
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Mar 30, 2015 21:24
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CapnAndy posted:I said this in the grey thread but I wasn't sure then, I'm pretty fuckin' sure now The defense could have called the agents, but they were trying to get certain testimony in under cross examination. The judge ruled that the defense line of questioning was beyond the scope of direct, but they could have called them as part of their case if they wanted. There are many reasons they did not want to do this though.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:28
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hobbesmaster posted:best case would be a retrial where we get to see a drawing of Carl Mark Force IV
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Mar 30, 2015 21:28
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https://twitter.com/JDratel/status/582636014872723456 Joshua Dratel @JDratel Major Silk Road govt corruption scandal revelation today that we've had to sit on for four months and were not permitted to use at trial. apparently dpr's lawyer has known about this for at least 4mos
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Boxturret posted:a drawing of Carl Mark Force IV Alan Smithee posted:Mark IV style motherfucker
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