bitcoin: a sisyphean nightmare, forever trapped in an endless wall of sperg

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Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Pumpy Dumper posted:

it looks like someone tried to photoshop a half life face to look more realistic

They're waiting for you, Gordon. In the echo chamber.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2014 06:27

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 17:45

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Greyhawk posted:

What many of us don't get about Bitcoin (its biggest strength)

Are you worried about the trolls, the Professor Bitcorn and BitCon types the media books on their shows, while ignoring people like Andreas, Roger, TwoBitIdiot, Circle execs, the Xapo CEO - all of whom would be better representatives of the technology and the currency.

Look, these people are playing their game: they don't want Bitcoin to succeed.

Allow me to repeat that: they do not want Bitcoin to succeed.

For people in the media, especially television, who already have money - they don't want to hear the Bitcoin narrative. They really don't. They're busy and being told their millions are worthless fiat poo poo bothers them. People don't like change - we couldn't even switch to the metric system in the States. This turns money around, a full 180. Some aren't ready for that.
And the credit card companies, the banks, some governments... Bitcoin is not a thorn in their side. It's an existential threat and, as with Occupy, they're doing their thing to make it go away. How much of the regulatory and legislative shitstorm do you think has been generated by card company lobbyists whispering into the right people's ears? Think about it.
This stuff is not conspiracy thinking. It is economic war. They're threatened, and they are attempting to crush that threat.

I was never in Occupy, I found it pedantic, but a friend was. Recently we were talking and I told her "something like that was doomed from the get go - no clear demands, no clear leaders, no vision".

This led to a very scary conversation about her experiences in Occupy. She's one of the smarter people I know, definitely not a UFO/conspiracy/NWO conspiratard. And she said, point blank, it was her experience that at least 1 out of every 4 "Occupiers" by the end of it was a fed, undercover cop, or provocateur. None of it made sense toward the end - crazies showing up to meetings, advocating violence and property damage. People with no history in activist communities whatsoever popping up with recording equipment, not journalists mind you, and asking questions and taking face shots without permission.

All that scary Cointelpro poo poo they used against Martin Luther King, Jr and others whose views were a little too ahead of the curve?

Those programs have not ended, they have just been compartmentalized and in many cases privatized. Internet trolling is big business. Social engineering and opinion "shepherding" is also big business.

Why do banks advertise on TV so much? Why do they sponsor so many stadiums?

The Buttcoiners frequently say Bitcoin is a cult. Money IS a cult: flip around a dollar bill, you'll find more occult creepiness than in the last twenty minutes of Eyes Wide Shut.

Money is a psychological phenomena, and Satoshi got the economics right for duplicating that phenomena, without needing a government to kickstart it with all of their imagery, force, and bullshit.

One of the recent favorite lines of Bitcoin detractors is "the blockchain technology is great, but the currency side of it will never work".

This is intentional, one last attempt to undermine Bitcoin in the courts of public opinion.

"The engines on this plane are great, but it will never fly."

Wrong. Currency, value transfer, is the whole loving point of Bitcoin. Notice how the trolling increased as Changetipping took off? That's because if tipping goes viral, the threat to them increases - it cannot be stopped at that point.

Also, sorry it took me so long to get to the point of this post: Bitcoin's biggest strength IS its currency aspect.

All the rest is nice bells and whistles, but currency is what Bitcoin was designed to replace. As Gates said, "Bitcoin is better than currency." He's not a dumb guy. That's one of those five word quotations that doesn't seem like much today, but in three years will appear positively prophetic in its accuracy. Bitcoin isn't just another currency. It's not just some card network for transferring ledger credit/debit balances around. It's a technology inherently better than govt-issued currency itself, just as email is inherently better than the post.
The logical conclusion, therefore, is that price does matter. Sellers - each of us - decide the price of Bitcoin. Given how much bullshit they are throwing at the wall lately trying to slow us down, I no longer recognize Bitcoin as a $350, $500, or $1,000 per coin technology.

It's become personal. I'll HODL until the bastards are out of business. Because if more of us thought like that, Bitcoin fairy tale time would be here a lot sooner. These banks and institutions are begging to be put out of business. And they know it, or the trolls and media shills wouldn't be out in force.

Time to finish the job. HODL til the bleed. For every shill who says price doesn't matter and Bitcoin will never work as money, I say it is money - more money than your derogatory surveillance and war funding Chuck E Cheese notes, more money than the heavy metal our predecessors used to have to lug around.

And price does matter. The detractors will see that this holiday season. Satoshi built a brilliant Chinese finger trap for money: it won't take much fresh seasonal demand to send all these numbers astronomical.

And I think enough of us are pissed off that we won't sell when things heat up. That's when it gets fun. To quote my favorite Bond villain, "Hello, James. Welcome. Do you like the island? My grandmother had an island. Nothing to boast of. You could walk around it in an hour, but still it was, it was a paradise for us. One summer, we went for a visit and discovered the place had been infested with rats. They'd come on a fishing boat and gorged themselves on coconut. So how do you get rats off an island? Hmm? My grandmother showed me. We buried an oil drum and hinged the lid. Then we wired coconut to the lid as bait and the rats would come for the coconut and... they would fall into the drum. And after a month, you have trapped all the rats, but what do you do then? Throw the drum into the ocean? Burn it? No. You just leave it and they begin to get hungry. And one by one... they start eating each other until there are only two left. The two survivors. And then what? Do you kill them? No. You take them and release them into the trees, but now they don't eat coconut anymore. Now, they only eat rat. You have changed their nature. The two survivors. This is what she made us."

We're going to change their nature. We want it badder than they do, and the future is ours.

Has anyone said BITCOINTELPRO yet

# ¿ Nov 10, 2014 02:00

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Dolomite posted:

your own personal bitcoin jesus

Reach out and touch poop

# ¿ Jan 14, 2015 02:18

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

marky karp and the FUDy bunch

# ¿ Jan 16, 2015 04:48

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

The picture of Dorian Nakamoto, it ages as the difficulty of butthashing increases

# ¿ Jan 21, 2015 10:01

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Hash. Let me tell you how much I have come to hash since I began to live.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2015 12:18

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

I'm the Jobber that you need to ask for your heroin hydrochloride

im the dread pirate jobberts

# ¿ Jan 28, 2015 02:02

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

theflyingexecutive posted:

I'm just lollin that Andreas was snubbed

the judge was warned to beware greeks bearing gyft

# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 04:50

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

theflyingorc posted:

I'd be a lot more worried if they hadn't mentioned the IT worker and the person with a computer science degree, because both of them should understand the "it was planted there because bittorrent was open" stuff was garbage

ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if they torrented bits you must acquit

# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 06:45

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

restingwitchface posted:

Feds were very professional, not talking to journos as far as I'm aware. Lawyerly observers were pretty much all "JFC, a diary?" They keep bringing that one up. Just really agog that there's a diary.

The fatal flaw in dpr's plan was not getting a diary with one of those little padlocks on it, teenage girls better at securing information than darknet drug marketplace kingpin ross ulbricht

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 02:38

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Powershift posted:

I think you mean the fatal flaw was not naming the diary "private diary cops do not read.txt"

he needed a big text disclaimer at the start like a late 90s warez irc channel that TOTALLY NO LAW ENFORCEMENT ALLOWED seriously guys something something dmca signed by bill clinton

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 02:45

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

CapnAndy posted:

It had one actually

THIS INFORMATION NOT CRYPTOGRAPHICALLY SIGNED or something like that

Are you a cop? You have to tell me if you are <Y/N>: :ins:

Nintendo Kid posted:

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yesssss

Ayn Randi fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Feb 5, 2015

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 02:58

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

suffix posted:

this comes up a bit so i just want to remind everyone that you don't need technical expertise to be on the jury, it is the prosecution and defence's job to explain anything they think is important in sufficient detail for the jury

having jury members lecture each other on tech is bad because now your case is decided on "evidence" that neither the prosecution or defence is allowed to see or object to, and that isn't reflected in the court record

a "knowledgeable jury member" could just as easily be your coworker who is convinced that having norton installed makes your computer immune to malware
you want the consideration to be based on cross-examined expert witness testimony, not jury members with strong opinions

12 angry men is a good movie but veryr bad law

I suppose its hard to enforce but aren't you mean to be prohibited from deliberating on that basis? Idk about the US but I had to attend jury service last week here in aus and they make it clear in the jurors briefing you aren't permitted to research any subject raised in court on your own, any technical terms have to be explained in their relevance by the representatives and legal definitions and applications are explained by the judge. Would have liked to actually do the thing but I was on a panel that got taken up to a court, number randomly chosen, made it into the juror box and then got a peremptory challenge by the crown prosecutor. Guess I'm not cut out for service in her majestys court system

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 05:23

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Tayter Swift posted:

also im p sure at least ten of the jurors are gonna go rent princess bride tonight

Ulbricht made a bad dread pirate roberts but his lawyer nailed vizzini imo

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 05:29

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

ruby idiot railed posted:

yeah it was a case in the UK, daughter was actually acquitted/released because of extenuating circumstances with her mother, and it wasn't ricin but abrin, and it was off of black market reloaded

should have bought DPR approved iocaine powder

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 07:10

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

He can be and is a bad person who did terrible things and still not deserve to be in the United States prison system for ever because literally no human being deserves that. That's an argument for a sane humane and rehabilitative justice system though not for suspension of judgement. I get that people can end at seriously bad decisions through small steps compounding a bad situation, the lack of redress in black markets outside of violence etc etc etc but dispassionately soliciting murders for hire including innocent bystanders I'm quite happy to call deviant and sociopathic behaviour

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 08:11

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

I guess my problem with labeling it sociopathic is that it seems to denote pre-existing mental abberation rather than a learned and developed conditions brought on by the experience and situation he put himself in. If you want me to concede that he is a sociopath now, then yeah I am good with that description, but I don't think he started out his drug kingpin career with that kind of edge, and had he been hit with a roadblock like a blackmailer before his project was worth millions, I think there would've been a much better chance he would've just walked away.

Money/power, especially holding on to it once you have it, make people into sociopaths, is my perspective on it.

Well for sure I mean I believe it's been demonstrated that simply being in a position of power and wealth can cause people to act more immorally, and outside of legit serious mental illness people aren't just born irredeemably bad. I guess I'm just saying we can separate empathy and understanding for how a person comes to this end without necessitating reducing the imperative to constrain and where possible correct the behaviours. He ought not to be dehumanised for what could ultimately be seen as a very human string of decisions and ideally we shouldn't revel in his punishment but he still needs to be kept safely apart i guess. I struggled with how to phrase this cos holy poo poo crime and punishment is just a massively complicated mess of grey that i dont think any society to date has really worked out. But someone who's demonstrated total unwillingness or inability to abide by the not onerous restriction of not trying to kill other people shouldnt be running free

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 09:05

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Your Legal System is a Piece Of poo poo

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 09:15

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Boxturret posted:

as i am typing this murder drones are coming to find every one of you

it's just typing words, no different than typing a text post really

i just happen to like this arrangement of unrelated numbers the fact that you ran it through a program and turned it into a death threat makes you the real criminal

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 09:22

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

neonbregna posted:

has anyone said trialchain yet?

dockchain

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 12:07

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

did anyone say bookchain yet

# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 00:58

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

thanks to neal stephenson i had to listen to people use the words neurolinguistic programming unironically so gently caress that guy tbh

# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 00:59

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Herman Merman posted:

I. THE BURIAL OF THE THREAD

II. A shell game of chess
III. The Fire Server
IV. Death by intrinsically valueless water
V. What the FUDer said

Ayn Randi fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Feb 17, 2015

# ¿ Feb 17, 2015 03:50

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

officer i do not consent to a search of my bitcoins under my carl mark force the fourth amendment privilege

# ¿ Apr 1, 2015 02:45

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Imagine Carl Mark Force Four balls on a cliff, crime works the same way

# ¿ Apr 1, 2015 03:22

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

InShaneee posted:

actually this is good for bitcoin because

this is good carl mark force four bitcoin

# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 01:39

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

A Pinball Wizard posted:

no really, they're a cult

(also everyone read this book, if for no other reason than the extensive documentation of the UFO cult some middle aged housewife started in her backyard in south dakota)

Reverend Sun Myung To-The-Moon

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 12:16

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Weatherman posted:

imageine the movie "cube" but with six bitcoiners instead of six relatively-normal people

why yes i am including the autist and the psychopath in that phrasing

except in cube the painstakingly difficult math has a useful purpose

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 06:58

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

the entire internet of things concept is a whole ecoystem of totally unnecessary solutions seeking problems so of course bitcoin feels right at home

# ¿ May 1, 2015 05:00

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

atomicthumbs posted:

bitcoin: now with K56flex

I'm running a bitcoin BBS in my fridge

# ¿ May 1, 2015 05:07

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

duTrieux. posted:

shaggy nooooo

Two bits on the eyes is customary, to changetip Charon for passage over the privately held river styx

# ¿ May 6, 2015 09:10

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

speaking of idiot micronations the latest freemanonthelandistan to succumb to the aggression of men with guns is liberland whos 'president ' just got arrested

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150510/1021966369.html

iirc this one was the "no arabs/asians/anyone a bit foreign looking" but also thought bitcoins were too volatile to be a national currency so still showing more self awareness than most galt go-ers

# ¿ May 11, 2015 04:41

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

tipple tipping economy

# ¿ May 20, 2015 05:13

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

block on the chain gang

# ¿ May 30, 2015 07:17

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

libertarian tears are my drug of abuse and yospos is my dark internet market end the war on laffs

# ¿ May 30, 2015 07:59

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Tayter Swift posted:

bitcoin: comedy gold

buttcoin: commode e-gold

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 00:22

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

FCKGW posted:

no fees?
no, fees.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2015 02:45

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

The real serial entrepreneurs are the pioneers creating endless darknet markets to run off with the butts. I like to imagine it's just the one guy running the same scam over and over and over under different names

# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 05:58

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

why do bitcoiners proclaim every new ponzi/casino/drug market legit and ignore the litany of previous scams and stings?

con formation bias

# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 08:03

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 17:45

Ayn Randi: Mar 12, 2009; Grimey Drawer

FAUXTON posted:

it's not dead and is instead pining for the fjords.

VERY MISLEADING

# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 07:52

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