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Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
EDIT: Update on last post of previous page!
Heh, Marth's reaction to Steve keeping the mask was funny. Xane pretending to be Tiki and saying "Mar-Mar I love you!" less so. Also, for a guy who came into the series with Awakening it's kinda weird to see kid Tiki here, when my mental image of her is my wife a fully grown woman.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Stephen9001 fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 19, 2015

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sergeantz
Apr 27, 2015
I guess I've gotta be the bad guy, and point out that Merrick hasn't caught a single point of magic in 5 levels.

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.

sergeantz posted:

I guess I've gotta be the bad guy, and point out that Merrick hasn't caught a single point of magic in 5 levels.

I will make Merric a viable mage if I have to shove Spirit Dust down his throat with a funnel. I have been burned TOO MANY TIMES FOR THIS.

I mean I could probably use Etzel instead but Merric's a bit better and has some special utility come endgame. Plus I think he's guaranteed to gain Mag on promotion, at least, and that's close.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Once Malicia promotes she'll be a really solid Sage. She's managed to hit her speed growths and that's the important thing with her.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Fire Emblem 12: No Mag Edition.

Sometimes it's funny how a game turns out.

EclecticTastes
Sep 17, 2012

"Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."

LordHippoman posted:

I will make Merric a viable mage if I have to shove Spirit Dust down his throat with a funnel. I have been burned TOO MANY TIMES FOR THIS.

I mean I could probably use Etzel instead but Merric's a bit better and has some special utility come endgame. Plus I think he's guaranteed to gain Mag on promotion, at least, and that's close.

Well, keep in mind, if you're only using one Mage, you get more than enough Spirit Dusts to overcome a bit of RNG dickery, and realistically, Malicia isn't likely to have issues with her Magic.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Little did Marth know that the mask would etch its memory into his bloodline.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

LordHippoman posted:

I will make Merric a viable mage if I have to shove Spirit Dust down his throat with a funnel. I have been burned TOO MANY TIMES FOR THIS.

I mean I could probably use Etzel instead but Merric's a bit better and has some special utility come endgame. Plus I think he's guaranteed to gain Mag on promotion, at least, and that's close.
One thing you could do is give Merric a level or two in the arena and "influence" it to ensure he gets magic on level up. It's what I'll do sometimes if I notice that a unit's starting to get a little bit stat screwed (but not unsalvageably) so in a single stat.

It's not cheating, it's just getting a unit back to their averages.:colbert:




Cause seriously that's just sad to see; he's not even at double digit magic as a level 17 mage.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
Smug Xane is hilarious and don't go hating on the mask Marth. :colbert: At least now we know where Lucina got the idea from, it's all Steve.

LifeofaGuardian
Oct 26, 2013

Every part of every human being-even their ugly sides-is beautiful. There is no limit to beauty.
I never actually drew that last wyvern over. I just flew one of my fliers over to him, out of the range of the two others, both killing him and getting the Elysian Whip at the same time.
That said, I do like that Merric is the only unpromoted character that has a certain utility in the endgame. It means you are a lot more free in using who you want and don't have to worry about saving Master Seals for those characters. That way I can use people like Matthis and try to get him to man up a little. (Spoiler: he doesn't. Not even in his supports.)

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.
Update 26: Lava Pirates (Prep)

Welcome back. Last time Marth crossed the Desert Of Death and it was a hassle for everyone involved, including me and probably you. Let's get out of the frying pan and into the Chapter 12.



Flame Barrel sounds like a Sonic the Hedgehog stage.



Marth, why are you standing that close to the lava?

Narrator: Before their eyes are walls of towering mountains, sheer cliffs and deep valleys...

Mountains, cliffs, and valleys cut for time.

Narrator: After passing countless mountains, they are assaulted by scorching heat. Magma flowing like a river and rumbling like thunder blocks their way. Truly a dreadful scene, as if straight out of a nightmare.



Well, that's one way to kick off a chapter.



Since Steve has maxed Speed and Skill, but is still hurting defensively, I dropped her into Cavalier for her last few levels.



We have a shitton of talking to do today.

The Not-Fire Emblem



: ...Who does it belong to? This emblem... Isn't this House Macedon's...?



: Ah! I-I apologize. Did you drop this, Princess Minerva?

: Yes, sorry. Actually, I've been looking for it for quite some time. I see you've found it. You have my thanks. ...I received this from my mother, when I was still young. Michalis, Maria and I... The three of us have this same pendant.

: So Prince Michalis too...

: Yes. We three... used to be very close, a long time ago. But, as you know... In the previous war, Michalis and I fought as enemies. I was on Prince Marth's side, while Michalis was on Medeus's... Those days, when we laughed together... are sadly a relic of the past.

Because you hit him repeatedly with an axe. Or a lance. One of the two.

: ...

: However, I've severed my ties with him. The war council will begin shortly. Let's go, Dame Steve.

Hardin Is Aware Of The Game Mechanics



: Might I say, it is an honor to fight alongside one who is acclaimed to be the finest archer in the continent.

: The finest in the continent...? I'm sorry, but that's a gross exaggeration. Please don't mention it again.

I mean, he's pretty good.

: Huh? Why?

: I hail from a noble family, you see, and somebody within my family just spread that claim for fame and nothing else. I'm not actually that great.

: A-ah, I see... By the way, may I ask you something? At Chiasmir Bridge, why were you...

: Defending the castle, even though I'm an archer?

Jeorge curses the cruel fate only having a 2 range weapon has dealt him.

: Er, yes. Well, it was quite fortunate for us, but...

: Truly, bows aren't suited for defending castles. If the enemy gets too close, there's nothing we can do, but pray to God. However, Hardin fully knew that when he ordered that guard duty.

: ...In other words...

: That's right. Basically, an execution. He might as well have told me to "die defending the castle."

: But why would he...?

: I kept pointing out the errors of his ways, and I didn't support Lang, to boot. From Hardin's viewpoint, I was nothing but a hindrance.

Hardin is already proving to be the most competent villain in this game or the prequel.

: ...

: I thought I should die there, too. But Steve, you and the others reminded me of where my loyalty truly lies. For that, I thank you.

: The pleasure is mine and I am thankful to be able to fight alongside you, Sir Jeorge.

...



: ...You again?

: Yes, it's me again. We've been meeting often lately, be it marching or in the battlefield. We might be able to get along better than I expected.



I'm going to be using this screenshot a lot.

: W-why are you looking at me like I'm just chasing after you...?

: ...What's your business with me?

: Oh, yes. The truth is, I heard an unpleasant story the other day. That before you rescued Miss Feena, you used to be a bodyguard for bandits... Is there any truth in the story?

Actually, he did that twice.

: ...Yes.

: W-why!? Why would somebody of your caliber lend a hand to villainous cutthroats...?



: Were you forced by circumstances? And therefore you had no choice...?

: ...There was no such thing. ...I'm no different from a bandit. I'm not like you.

Actually you're both myrmidons. That's something.

: ...Sir Navarre. No, that's wrong. We are the same. After all, you're in this army for Prince Marth's sake, are you not?



: ...Why do you think so?

: I know it just by looking at you. I haven't been chasing you for nothing.



Same.

: You aren't an evil person. However you've lived amongst bandits till now. And you were thus unwittingly dyed with evil. But you can still change that. I'm confident Prince Marth wishes that too. And if that's the case, I'm sure that's my mission.

: ...?

: Sir Navarre, I'll insist and persuade you until you're an honest man again!

I wouldn't say Navbabdab isn't "honest", more that he's just kind of a dick.

: Heh...

: Did I say something funny?

: ...You're softhearted like Prince Marth.

: What do you mean? Just like Prince Marth... Was that praise, I wonder? But... It was the first time I saw you smile, Sir Navarre.



: ...I'm going ahead.

: Ah, please wait, Sir Navarre!

Me Mother's Sickness

I haven't used Castor since we got him, I just got this base conversation because he keeps landing on the "became closer with Steve" thing in How's Everyone.



: Sir Castor? What's the problem?

: Oh, Steve. The truth is, because of me mother's sickness, I'm short on money...

: Oh! That's troublesome indeed. This isn't much, but please accept this gold.

Steve, I need that. I need that for Master Seals.

: Unh, this is pretty much the first time we've met and yet you're so kind to me... Thank you so much!

: Don't mention it, helping those in trouble is a knight's duty.

: Steve... No, Mistress Steve! You have saved me life. I offer me life to you!

This is getting weird.

: ...While I appreciate the thought, you don't need to be that happy...

: No! Unless you accept me life as your own, I don't know how I can calm down!

: ...I understand your feelings, Sir Castor. However, I am a mere knight. If you want to offer your life, then you should swear fealty to my liege, instead.

: B-by liege, you mean...

: Yes, Prince Marth. Then, without delay...

: P-please wait a moment. I'm, er, not quite ready...



: Sir Castor?

: Uwah, no, it's nothin'! I-I'm sorry, I just remembered I have some urgent business to take care of, so please excuse me!

: Ah, Sir Castor? Didn't you need the gold...?

He's not very good at this.

Unrequited Subplots



: W-what do you mean?

: I admire you for so fervently protecting Prince Marth, but you've been pushing yourself beyond your limits...

: ...Catria. It looks like I couldn't hide it from you after all. Our enemies are becoming stronger. Protecting Prince Marth is not easy. However, I promise you this: no matter what happens to me, at least Prince Marth will be...

Steve can be creepily self-sacrificing at times.

: I'm not worried about Prince Marth, I'm worried about you. If you surrendered your life, even if to protect him... ...I'm sure he would be distraught.

: That's... Yes. You're right. I might have been taking things too far.

: No matter what happens, I'm here if you need help. We're comrades, after all.

: Got it. Thanks, Catria. I'm glad you're here for me.

: It's okay. You've already helped me too, after all... Hey, Steve...

: Hm?

: You see, there's something that was bothering me for a long time... Something I couldn't tell anyone. A forbidden feeling... A terrible burden deep within my chest, and I could do nothing to alleviate it... I hated it... It was horrible.

:stonk:

: If you want to talk about it, I'll listen.

: Thanks. But right now... I feel a little better. I believe it's probably thanks to you.

: Me?

: You have always been by my side. We'd talk and laugh together... We'd talk about Prince Marth and about each other... And as we did... Little by little, my pain lessened. As time passes, then maybe, someday... I'll be able to forget it entirely...

I mean, she has one thing right, he is into blue haired pegasus knights whose names start with C.

: Huh? I'm sorry, but I don't really get it...

: That's fine. You don't need to. Anyway, thank you Steve...



Being pals with Catria has earned us a Speed Bond. Nice.

The Recap is long and hard.



: The Lightsphere is an absolute necessity if we wish to negate Hardin's Darksphere... If we obtain it, the day of Altea's liberation comes ever closer as well. Xane, whom you've just met, seems to be oddly knowledgeable about Anri's Way... A welcome companion on this harsh path.

Xane seems fairly untrustworthy on this front.

Jagen's Backstory Dump



: If you fall, so does our army. So, for Prince Marth's sake as well, you must survive.

: Yes sir. I understand. By the way, Sir Jagen, why exactly is it called Anri's Way?

: Oh yes. It's a long story, but I'll tell you the legend of Anri.

Strap in for some backstory.



: The people back then lived days of misery, as the dragons' slaves. House Archanea, the people's only hope, was eradicated, and the world descended into despair.

: ...

: But, at the time, there were rumors of an Archanean princess hiding out in Altea, which back then was no more than a provincial town among many. The furious Dolhrian Empire sent troops to Altea, demanding the princess's extradition.



Steve will be the Greek chorus of this exposition.

: That princess--Artemis--planned to sacrifice her own life in order to save the citizens. However, the people of Altea protected her, and vowed to fight, knowing they would be massacred.



drat your cliffhangers, Jagen!

Now that that's all done, How's Everyone?





Don't remind me :(









I think this is the only time you get to hear Etzel's wife's name in this game.





Please don't do that.



So, here's the Flame Barrel. Not too many enemies, but reinforcements are on the table, and they're all significant threats.



Remember these guys from that one time in Chapter 7? Well, they have numbers now.



Wyverns are back too, and as obnoxious as last time.



Another pretty dangerous enemy, Swordsmasters.



Most importantly though...the last Starshard is on this dragon at the northeast end of the map.



The boss also has something I want.



Also this guy. My god, Darros, how did you get THIS lost?

To round things off, I noticed Ogma had about 12 XP left until a level up, so I sent him to the Drill Grounds.





But it was not without sacrifices. I'll replace that before next time.

LordHippoman fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 22, 2015

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.

quote:

: Truly, bows aren't suited for defending castles.

Fire Emblem.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013

KnoxZone posted:

Fire Emblem.

Yeah, because when you think about it too hard, you realise "Wait, but in reality having archers on the castle walls works really well", truly video games are lying to us. And I state the obvious so you don't have to!

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Sweet the second berserker slot Darros is finally joining us!

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I've tried to level Jake up, and even with his fantastic growths he is just really hard to use because those bases are bad. On average as a Warrior, he'll only cap speed and that's more because the cap is very low. Barst, on the other hand, would cap HP, strength, skill and speed in the same class.


FoolyCharged posted:

Sweet the second berserker slot Darros is finally joining us!

I wish ladies could be pirates, because is usually the point where I make Barst my pirate brother.

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

Ugh, loving wyverns again. Even the actual dragons aren't as obnoxious. I think I actually had more trouble with this map than the previous one...

PassingPie
Aug 18, 2013
Do those wyverns seriously have 12 move?

That's, uh... that's really something. :psyduck:

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010

PassingPie posted:

Do those wyverns seriously have 12 move?

That's, uh... that's really something. :psyduck:

12 Move and flying. With 17 speed, which means they can't be doubled by any unpromoted unit not using a Starshard. This is the only chapter in the series so far where I let a PC unit die on Classic because it was so brutal partly for that reason.

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.

Last Celebration posted:

12 Move and flying. With 17 speed, which means they can't be doubled by any unpromoted unit not using a Starshard. This is the only chapter in the series so far where I let a PC unit die on Classic because it was so brutal partly for that reason.


PassingPie posted:

Do those wyverns seriously have 12 move?

That's, uh... that's really something. :psyduck:


vilkacis posted:

Ugh, loving wyverns again. Even the actual dragons aren't as obnoxious. I think I actually had more trouble with this map than the previous one...

Yeah, the Wyverns are serious fuckers. Keep in mind that 12 is greater than or equal to the move than anything else in the game, only Paladins (With boots!) match it, and we have extremely limited space on this map. Having Merric or Jeorge around is important, because they're priority number 1, easily.

Also there are surprise reinforcement Wyverns on this map because gently caress you, Fire Emblem 12.

One reason I was worried about Marth being underleveled was that in a failed run of that last map a Wyvern attacked him and doubled him, killing him in one round all by itself. And on Lunatic, they are ranged.

LifeofaGuardian
Oct 26, 2013

Every part of every human being-even their ugly sides-is beautiful. There is no limit to beauty.

vilkacis posted:

Ugh, loving wyverns again. Even the actual dragons aren't as obnoxious. I think I actually had more trouble with this map than the previous one...

:hf::saddowns: this level took so much retries for me. It WAS the level though where Cav Gordin proved himself to me by being tanky enough to take more than one attack and somehow fast enough to not get doubled.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
At that kind of movement range they might as well be teleporting. Wow wow wyverns.

They do still hit the first thing in their path, right? Or are you going to have to keep your squishy units 18 squares away?

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

The AI in FE12 will prioritize the target it can do the most damage to. Even over ones that can't counterattack.

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.

vilkacis posted:

The AI in FE12 will prioritize the target it can do the most damage to. Even over ones that can't counterattack.

This is a good point to make, because it does prevent you from using the old FE7 tactic of "send in Oswin without any weapons".

Also I screencapped like the first...third of Chapter 12 today.

It uh. Might take me a while to figure this one out. I had forgotten that it forces you into a pincer attack and just how much damage the Fire Dragons can do. Haven't even gotten to the reinforcement Wyverns yet.

That said, it is a boatload of EXP, so some people might be promoting in the next chapter...limited Seals right now though, so if you'd like to submit input on what characters I should make priority, feel free. I think Steve is probably a shoo-in. Catria can use the Elysian Whip to save a Seal as well.

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

LordHippoman posted:

Haven't even gotten to the reinforcement Wyverns yet.

:unsmigghh: Enjoy.


I am legally obligated to vote for Wrys but aside from that, just promote the characters who ram the level cap first and also don't suck. You'll get another seal like every 1-2 chapters from here on, so anyone left behind won't have to wait too long.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

LordHippoman posted:

This is a good point to make, because it does prevent you from using the old FE7 tactic of "send in Oswin without any weapons".

Also I screencapped like the first...third of Chapter 12 today.

It uh. Might take me a while to figure this one out. I had forgotten that it forces you into a pincer attack and just how much damage the Fire Dragons can do. Haven't even gotten to the reinforcement Wyverns yet.

That said, it is a boatload of EXP, so some people might be promoting in the next chapter...limited Seals right now though, so if you'd like to submit input on what characters I should make priority, feel free. I think Steve is probably a shoo-in. Catria can use the Elysian Whip to save a Seal as well.
You know you can always forge your Wyrvern-killing weapons to make things easier. Since they're effective weapons, every extra point of might equals an extra 3 points of damage. I usually forge based on "how strong does this Dragonpike have to be for Minerva to one-shot the flying Wyverns" and/or "can my main Wyrmslayer user one-shot them" (and them maybe add an extra point).

One-shotting makes all the difference, since you can heal afterwards with minimal risk.

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.

fade5 posted:

You know you can always forge your Wyrvern-killing weapons to make things easier. Since they're effective weapons, every extra point of might equals an extra 3 points of damage. I usually forge based on "how strong does this Dragonpike have to be for Minerva to one-shot the flying Wyverns" and/or "can my main Wyrmslayer user one-shot them" (and them maybe add an extra point).

One-shotting makes all the difference, since you can heal afterwards with minimal risk.

I looked at the Forge, but I don't have quite enough cash to afford a ton of them right now, although that is a good strategy on these maps, and I'll probably do it on the next one.

Thankfully I have found a much cheaper way of dealing with this. Parking people on the forts. gently caress you, reinforcements from behind. Doesn't deal with the ones up the bridge, but helps stem the flow a bit.

LordHippoman fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jul 26, 2015

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.
Update 26: Lava Pirates (Battle)

Welcome back. This time Pope Steve and her loyal clergy are taking on the Flame Barrel, mostly through a combination of exploiting knowing where the reinforcements will come and sheer dumb luck.





You don't use Mag :(





Neither do you!









Alright, onto the map.



: This is Flame Barrel... The fire dragons' graveyard. It's where the fire dragons who've degenerated into savage beasts come to wait for their death.

: Degenerated, you say...? What do you mean by that?

:
I'm not sure if you're aware, but the dragon tribe is dyin'. Those who don't confine their true, dragon form in a stone eventually lose all reason and become monsters.

: So that's why they become Manaketes? Xane, if you know something about the dragon tribe, please tell me.

I mean you could ask Bantu. He's been here for like 4 chapters. But okay.

: If you really wanna know... Tens of thousands of years ago, the dragon tribe settled down on this continent, and created a civilization. They possessed intellect and abilities far exceedin' those of humans. But suddenly, outta nowhere, their day of destruction came. At first, they couldn't bear children. Then they began to lose their minds, goin' berserk one after the next. The elders warned that the end of dragons as a species was approachin'. There was no longer any way to prevent it. However, there was one way they could survive: to discard their identities as dragons and live on as humans. The dragons fell into a panic. Those who believed the elders sealed their forms within stones and became humans. But those who couldn't throw away their pride as a dragon; those who adamantly refused to become human... They eventually lost their minds and became naught but beasts...

This is the first real bit of backstory we get on the Manaketes. Shadow Dragon didn't really mention it at all.

: Those fire dragons before us...

: Yeah, they're a livin' example. And it's not just them. There are many others. But they've all gone feral now. There's no way for them to go back... Worse still, they've been manipulated and degraded like cattle by the fire clans who rule over this valley. Well, princey. Whadya say we get out of here? The clansmen around here ain't friendly; if we hang around, we'll end up as bait for their dragon pets.



Alright, so Chapter 12 is mostly about being able to hold out against multiple very powerful enemies at a time. This map is full of dragons, so Wyrmslayers are extremely useful here.



I just wanted to show this, because I wasn't sure if I had before. Not only can Marth access the Convoy in battle, so can any adjacent units.





I want to lure two fire dragons over, so I ready up Steve and Ogma to get their attention.



Yeah, these guys hurt. This is a running theme for this whole map.





Steve shows off with a crit, because she can, and gets a pretty drat good level. Defense, yay.



oh gently caress it's these guys



Ogma cleans up this Fire Dragon so I can focus on the incoming Wyvern pack.



This rear end in a top hat is also going to be coming for us. The Tomahawk is a stronger version of the Hand Axe.



Luke blocks the 1 range slot for Ogma while Malicia patches him up.



Steve gets the gently caress out and I pop Barst in her spot. Now for the Wyvern barrage.



Oh and that guy.

One wyvern hits Luke from the side, and I'm ready to reset until:



I love this dodge so much I cropped out the bottom screen so everyone could focus on it.





God bless you, you stupid green haired hero.



So we're still mostly intact after that. Cleanup time.







Finally Merric gains Magic, and my recurring Steve nightmares are put to rest.



In a supreme display of disrespect, I just use a regular old Steel Sword to kill this guy because gently caress wyverns.



Oh and Malicia grabbed a level.



Using the Convoy, I grabbed her a spare Physic stave. I'm going to need it to pull this next part off as cheaply as possible.



I moved Caeda, Luke, and Malicia onto these forts east of the start point.



This is where the map gets mean. As soon as you step past the squares one south of that line of forts, almost all the enemies on the bridge just rush you down. In addition, two Fire Dragons and a Tomahawk Barbarian spawn in those forts east of the start, trapping you in a pincer against some of the game's most dangerous enemies.

Luckily I cheated, knew that was coming, and blocked the forts. So no pincer for me! This is still not going to be easy.



I put Steve and Minerva on forts, Barst one space forward to deal damage to an incoming Fire Dragon, and the rest behind.



The rush begins, and I wish I had given Barst a Silver axe, as this would be a one round kill.



:derp:





A Hand Axe finishes the weakened Dragon, and Malicia restores Barst to the HP he'll need to soak a Fire Dragon hit.



: Please forgive me. I never wanted this.





It's okay Darros, you whiffed anyway.



Kind of a sad level for Barst, but he's already capped so much.



A Levin Sword hit would chunk Barst down pretty hard too, but he is a dodge master, in case you forgot.



Steve puts an end to the Fire Dragon that hit Minerva.



Again, Barst and the Swordsmaster miss eachother. Truly they were meant to be.



Alright, get over here, pirate man.



Darros was a Pirate from Chapter 2 of Shadow Dragon who would walk up and recruit himself. He's the only native pirate in the game. He was vastly unimportant and didn't even show up in the original FE3.

Him being here now creates a pretty great plot point where Darros, who apparently decided to go sailing after Shadow Dragon, managed to end up in a volcano full of dragons. He is the worst goddamn sailor.

: Prince Marth... Forgive me. I was lookin' t'start anew, but there be no place t'go for an outcast like me... To resume and continue these crimes; 'tis dishonorable indeed.

How is he making money out here, it's full of dying crazy dragons and cultists!

: I see... Darros, you cannot stay here. Come with us.

: Prince Marth... Ye would still accept a fool like me...? Prince, I... This time, I be changin' for sure. Me life is yours!



Darros here is...not great. He has okay base stats, not as good as Barst or anything, but having a Silver Axe off the bat helps. Sadly, his growths are pretty bad outside of HP and Strength. He's not terrible, but he's not really worth the time if you aren't starving for Axes.





Merric decides to leaf through his book before hitting this guy.



That of course means he is disintegrated instantly.



Minerva grabs a Vulnerary as I set up a bit of a blockade.



Darros is in the line of Tomahawk fire, so I top him off with Malicia.



R.I.P. Physic. A true hero :911:



Here's the second gently caress you from this map. Three turns after you trigger the first round of reinforcements, a second group will spawn in the forts (Unless they're still blocked :smuggo:) east of the start point and from these northern ones. And there are Wyverns.



Dodge Master Barst strikes again.



I really like Barst.







Initial storm weathered, but the Wyverns are ALREADY HERE.



Bit of a waste of a Hauteclere use, but I forgot to give her another good axe. Oops.



You might consider this overkill.

But gently caress Wyverns.





Merric agrees.



Catria finishes off the remaining Wyvern.



Catria is hitting some fantastic level ups lately.



Either Marth sees a shooting star or he's getting a crit.



Oh.



I'm sealing this away.



I decided to give Darros a chance to shine. He missed. Way to go.







The Steve/Barst tag team is an unstoppable force, and we're nearly done with the center bridge now.



It's safe to bring our fort camping friends over now.



Barst takes a little damage here, but he's alive.



Thanks to Ogma, the dragon is not.



A solid level up here.



And now I have Malicia wander around and heal everyone for several turns.



Now that that's done...time to lure the Wyverns up here.



They were uninterested. Fine, hard way.







Now that this first Fire Dragon is down, the path to the most important one is clear.





Bad idea, Wyvern buddy.



And Catria finishes off that dragon, earning us something nice.



The last Starshard :toot:

Wendell's mission is complete, and we now have one that gives us +1 to Def and Res. Not too bad, but not the real prize for getting all of these.



Now to prepare for the final charge.



And when you step on those forts more reinforcements spawn! Including from the first forts we crossed, two Wyverns! If you didn't block one. With Merric. Hoping his buddy is in the mood for mage.



Wait no you were supposed to go for Merric :( My genius plan! You're ruining this LP, Wyverns :argh:



I have that same expression.



Navnabarl finishes the Wyvern off.



And with one last, shittily cropped screenshot (my bad), Catria finally hits the level cap!



Oh yeah, and this.





Ogma takes defensive positions, and gets a lovely level.



More Malicia levels.



Steve could really learn a dodge lesson from Barst.



Another point in Def is just fine with me.



Caeda, tired of doing nothing but block a fort all map, decides to show off.



And now only the boss is left!



So, everyone is at full health, Malicia is almost level capped, and I'm horribly impatient. So I just took out this Might Staff.



And beat Marth over the head with it until it broke and I got a level.



An...entirely empty level. What a lovely way to hit the level cap. But gently caress if I'm ending this map on such a terrible note.



One dragon.



One whip.



Lightning strikes around Catria...



And she transforms!



Falcoknight is ours! This gives her a huge stat boost, access to Swords, and the ability to level up to 20 all over again.





And now Catria can use every Lance in the whole game.





She eats a Fire Breath, but...



DOUBLE DOUBLE



CRIT CRIT



gently caress yeah, Catria.



I know a certain Cleric who would love this.



:toot:



: I'm fine... I think. Xane, I believe you said that there were other feral dragon tribes.

: Yeah. In addition to this valley, there's the Wyvern's Dale, the Ice Dragon Shrine and the Dragon's Altar...

: The Dragon's Altar?

: It's a dragon graveyard in the mountains of Macedon. There, the earth dragons sleep.

Medeus, the last Earth Dragon, was the final boss of Shadow Dragon.



: The mighty earth dragons lost their minds and attacked the humans. 'Course, the humans barely stood a chance. Most were annihilated, and the rest pushed into the desolate corners of the continent. And then... the divine dragon Naga, strongest of them all, waged a war for humanity. It was a fierce battle, but Naga emerged victorious in the end, and sealed the earth dragons below Dolhr, in a deep sleep. And so that the power of the seal would not wither, she created the "shield of the five orbs" and placed it in the Fane of Raman.

Shield of the five orbs? That sounds...familiar.

: I see... I understand now. In other words, our guardian deity Naga depicted in legend was the divine dragon that saved humanity. But then, what about the divine sword Falchion?

: Naga took pity on you humans, with no way of protecting yourselves, so she created it from one of her fangs.

The divine sword is just the remnants of a wisdom tooth removal.

: Then, together with the shield, she sealed it in the fane, and had the remainin' dragon houses watch over humanity. She put the newly born Tiki to sleep and thus ended her 5,000-year life. 'Cause of all this, Gotoh's tryin' his best to carry out Naga's order.





I love how casually he reveals that. Surprise!



But gently caress that, we have Jagen sweat to discuss.

: I'm usually tolerant of heat, but this is simply unbearable... But Steve, you seem...

Variable Dialogue, depending on MU's Strength. Since Steve isn't exactly a powerhouse in that...



: No... I-I'm... not doing so well... Still... If I could just use my strength... Oh no, I feel all weak...



: I'm sorry...

:( Steve.



Who the gently caress are

: Who are you...?

He keeps taking my line.

: I am Belf, and these men here are Robert and Leiden. We rushed here because we wish to join your battle.





: The Sable Order of Grust... But in the previous war, we fought against the Sable Order as enemies. Despite that, you're willing to join our army?

: Our general wished for us to protect the weak, regardless of nationality. He is gone now, so we would like to fulfill his final wish.

: ............ I see. You seem to speak truly. Very well. I'd like you to fight alongside us.

And so, Camus' old pals have joined us. This is new to the remake, and yes, they're from one of the BS maps. I want to save that one for later, though. For now, let's take a look at their stats.



I'm gonna be honest, I have like, nothing to say about these guys. I can't even tell them apart.

Robert is a prepromote with pretty lovely stats, but some solid growths. If you want a prepromoted bow user, I still think Jeorge is better.



Belf is a subpar cavalier. Do you have a good Luke, Rody, or Sirius? You don't need Belf.



Leiden is an interesting case. His growths aren't as good as Robert's, but he has more room to grow and better bases for his level. I could see you getting some decent use out of this guy, but with Luke and Cavalier Caeda if I need her, I'm not really aching for more Cavs, and I can't really think of another class he'd be great in. With bow ranks, I'd say Archer, but ehhh.





Oh, and here's the Starshards. With the 11 in the list and the one in Barst's inventory, we have 12, and can breathe easy about finding those.

Next time, everything gets a lot colder and a little less confined. See you then.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
You blocked the reinforcements?? For shame. Think how much exp was just wasted!

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.
I let that one Wyvern through :colbert:

And yeah, probably a good 2 levels of EXP off of those guys, but I honestly just didn't want to do this chapter anymore. This LP is already sort of at a glacial pace.

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

And now you know how much trouble I had playing this fucker of a map without blocking the forts.

LordHippoman posted:

I mean you could ask Bantu. He's been here for like 4 chapters.

I don't exactly blame Marth for forgetting.


Also :lol: "Belf".

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

quote:

Belf

No, no, Azeroth is a couple universes that way.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

vilkacis posted:

Also :lol: "Belf".

Glad I'm not the only one.

By the way, "Leiden" is the German verb for "to suffer". I doubt it was on purpose, considering "Belf" (heh) and "Robert" aren't particularly meaningful.
I don't think FE generally goes in for meaningful names anyway.

EclecticTastes
Sep 17, 2012

"Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."
The Sable Knights are pretty emblematic (hah) of the way this game goes about being essentially a Director's Cut version of the original Mystery of the Emblem. You get everyone who was ever playable, whether you could ever reasonably arrive at a state of needing them or not (aside from plot deaths like Lorenz and Boah, not sure why they didn't include some way to save him while they were shoehorning in frickin' Frost). With the Sable Knights and the Wolfguard, you're somewhat inundated with people on horses that you will never, ever use.

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!
Belfs name led to a pile of drama that ended with Arch leaving the team so its definitely meaningful for one reason or another.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Thundercats HOOO!!



LordHippoman posted:

I let that one Wyvern through :colbert:

And yeah, probably a good 2 levels of EXP off of those guys, but I honestly just didn't want to do this chapter anymore. This LP is already sort of at a glacial pace.

I think the pacing is fine. :colbert:

LifeofaGuardian
Oct 26, 2013

Every part of every human being-even their ugly sides-is beautiful. There is no limit to beauty.
Leiden is actually one of my main team. He really proved himself in the next chapter to me, and my Luke is extremely subpar so Leiden easily fills in for him.

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

LordHippoman posted:



I'm sealing this away.

I've always been a fan of those weapons. (See also: my avatar.)

Hell, they've gotten me through some of the most annoying fights in the series...

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

SC Bracer posted:

Belfs name led to a pile of drama that ended with Arch leaving the team so its definitely meaningful for one reason or another.

Any chance you'd be willing to elaborate, or should we just leave it be and move on?

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!
The really short version is that it brought up the debate over whether it was all right for a fantranslation team to go crazy with renaming. One of the choices was Vergil for him, and there was even a vote as to what the team would do, both privately and on the translation blog. Arch felt that as the closest the game would get to an official localization would be us, we had the right to localize the names as we pleased regardless of the original Japanese, while others felt that we should make only very moderate changes, or none at all.

Egos flared and eventually arch left and belf remained belf because no one wanted to deal with that poo poo again. It was a bit before I joined the team so I only really saw arch being salty about naming conventions in the fe12 public discussion forum on Serenes rather than the private forum we used for the translation which he had left, and some of old threads regarding it, so my account is still pretty much after the fact. If there were other issues over Arch leaving I really don't remember but the incident with belf/Vergil was the big sticking point.

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LifeofaGuardian
Oct 26, 2013

Every part of every human being-even their ugly sides-is beautiful. There is no limit to beauty.

SC Bracer posted:

The really short version is that it brought up the debate over whether it was all right for a fantranslation team to go crazy with renaming. One of the choices was Vergil for him, and there was even a vote as to what the team would do, both privately and on the translation blog. Arch felt that as the closest the game would get to an official localization would be us, we had the right to localize the names as we pleased regardless of the original Japanese, while others felt that we should make only very moderate changes, or none at all.

Egos flared and eventually arch left and belf remained belf because no one wanted to deal with that poo poo again. It was a bit before I joined the team so I only really saw arch being salty about naming conventions in the fe12 public discussion forum on Serenes rather than the private forum we used for the translation which he had left, and some of old threads regarding it, so my account is still pretty much after the fact. If there were other issues over Arch leaving I really don't remember but the incident with belf/Vergil was the big sticking point.

Belf and Leiden were apparently supposed to be Berg and Leiden, two dutch cities.

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