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Am I the only one who finds it incredibly confusing that Steve keeps referring to herself as a knight despite being a mage. 
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WrightOfWay posted:Archer is tied with pirate as the class with the highest speed growth. Ryan actually has a solid 50% speed growth, he's just been unlucky. With all the other lucky breaks I've been getting with Ryan I'm fine with him only hitting once with his murder bow and one shotting flying bosses. Darth TNT posted:Am I the only one who finds it incredibly confusing that Steve keeps referring to herself as a knight despite being a mage. Steve sleeps in a set of plate armor in hopes her dreams will become a reality. Sadly they do not and it just sucks the Mag out of her to spite me. In all seriousness, Female Knights don't exist until....7 games before this one, actually. So no, that one's on them. Female Generals do though!
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Jan 27, 2015 11:08
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WrightOfWay posted:Archer is tied with pirate as the class with the highest speed growth. Ryan actually has a solid 50% speed growth, he's just been unlucky. This is pretty much how it works. Ryan gets poo poo level-ups (or at least consistently misses an important stat) despite having some of the best growths in the game, and Malicia gets beastly levels despite only having two good growths (granted, both of those growths are pretty important, but she even manages to hit skill, her growth for which is laughably low).
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Jan 27, 2015 14:40
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Darth TNT posted:Am I the only one who finds it incredibly confusing that Steve keeps referring to herself as a knight despite being a mage. It's a pretty common thing to have that confusion in fire emblem games as they love to talk about knights in the sense that they're soldiers working for a lord and also use knights as in the specific class that they localized as knight.
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Jan 27, 2015 17:09
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FoolyCharged posted:It's a pretty common thing to have that confusion in fire emblem games as they love to talk about knights in the sense that they're soldiers working for a lord and also use knights as in the specific class that they localized as knight. I remember them saying "vassal" a lot more in FE7, referring to Oswin/Matthew/Serra in relation to Hector. But yeah, this is very true. Frederick in Awakening is a good example as well.
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Update 14: The Bald And The Beautiful: Wrysvengeance (Battle) Welcome back. This time we face a decision that could change the course of the LP, nay, history, forever. Also Wrys is in it so that's cool. We're starting with How's Everyone, because it's recharged now.   This is a Stave that increases Speed by 2 for a short time.   Like the other Glass weapons, the staff is very effective at healing, but only has 3 uses.   I'll go over this more later, but Rody's Lance is pretty unremarkable.   Steve. We need to talk about your Strength obsession. It's just not working out.   I'm okay with this, but it's easily the least interesting of the lot. Anyway, time to free up a mage slot.    Yes. Yesssss. She already has better Mag. than Steve. 7. Levels. Lower.  So, you might remember that Rucke dropped the Taurus shard when we took him out in the last chapter. Any character carrying the Taurus shard gets a boost to both Strength and Defense, which is a pretty good deal, even if it is only by one point each.  I'm going to have Luke hold onto it. I'm sure he'll take good care of it.  And filling in for Malicia today we have Steve, trying out Cleric because...why not.  This is the party I'm going with for this chapter. There were other good candidates, but only 6 deployment slots means I have to be more selective than normal.  Oh, and here's Malicia's inventory. Note the Nosferatu. That is an incredibly good weapon, and all female characters can use it at E magic rank. This will come in handy.  Here's the stats on Rody's Lance. Pretty nice for an E rank weapon. I also gave Luke Ogma's Blade for this one. Now then, I think I've dithered around this long enough. Let's start it up.   Wrys is in a precarious situation immediately here.  And these two are back from the prologue to cause us more trouble.  : Tsk! What a nuisance. Eine, I hate to admit it but you were right about this outcome. Alteans never abandon their comrades... You sure learned a lot about that trash from your time staying with them.  : ...The ellipsis is going to get another workout in this conversation. : My job is to kill, one by one, everyone who sided with Marth in the previous war.  This line might make Kleine the most genre savvy villain in the entire series. : ... Kleine, are you really up for the task? : I don't need to get MY hands dirty, do I? My underlings can get the job done. We're hardly dealing with strong enemies. Someone hasn't seen Luke's last few level ups. Or has seen Steve's. : You'll die if you underestimate Steve and the others, Kleine. I served as Steves tactician, but I wasn't much help as one; I didn't give them the advice a tactician should give. Even without me, Steve and the others are strong. : What? Have you become attached to the Alteans after your little frolic with them? Then, just sit there and watch. Watch hard and well as I kill your beloved companions. Oh yes, and please... don't get in my way, okay? Kleine isn't the most unhinged of the villains in this game, but she's pretty high on the list.  OH GOD RUN WRYS RUN  Over on the other side of the map, Marth one rounds a Knight with the Rapier.  Pretty satisfying level there.  This is a crit. Have I mentioned how great Ogma's Blade is?  So, here's why I'm a fan of Nosferatu. That's not only pretty good damage from a character who just class changed into a Mage, but some of that damage is healed onto the user. This can be vital in keeping squishy mages alive, like Malicia.  I'm trying to get Catria and Palla across the map ASAP to save Wrys, but those archers present a problem. All in good time, I guess.  Pictured: Nosferatu owns. Malicia did get hit by that knight, FYI. She just doesn't give a drat.  The archers ran for Marth and Luke, so I have Steve patch the prince up before starting the turn for real.  Marth just barely doesn't finish this enemy.  Malicia manages it.  As do Catria and Luke on the other archer.   The bulk of our units are advancing quick, but Wrys is running out of room to flee.  : If by some chance those rats aren't dead when I return... I'll make sure YOU'RE dead, got it? At the start of this turn, Kleine leaves. Yeah, this chapter has no boss. She just decides to screw off, despite Marth literally being right there. Interestingly, Kleine does have quotes for fighting and being defeated in this chapter, but I can't think of a feasible way to see them, aside from maybe having a Dracoknight Arran making a literal beeline for Kleine here. For completion's sake... When attacked: : Wait... what? Where did you lot come from!? When defeated: : Tsk! This is bad... To think I'd run from the likes of you... I'll remember this! So it doesn't affect the plot in any way, but it's kind of an interesting touch.   Catria and Palla are hot on Wrys' heels now, and Steve is still patching people up in the back.  Cutting it so drat close now.  But the Cavalry (peg knights whatever) has arrived!    Catria runs like hell to join her sister, but I can't kill that knight this turn. That means Wrys is going to have to take a hit. I also forgot something important. Remember when Kleine mentioned reinforcements?  Oh gently caress reinforcements!    This is much less worrying.  So, here's the issue here. Marth is just barely out of range. Steve is dying. Malicia cannot double this knight. But in the nick of time...  I am saved by How's Everyone. I have never even used one of these before.  I can't even be mad about that Mag growth anymore. Just stare blankly at the screen.   And thus, Malicia's streak of godly levels was broken. And she still gets Mag.  Luke demonstrates the application of Ogma's Blade to a random knight.  And Palla takes care of the other one. Just 2 left on the map now, and Wrys is safe.  I celebrate by having him heal Palla. Now that we have Wrys back for good, I guess I should go over him again. Wrys is pretty much worse than Malicia in almost every way. He doesn't have her stats or her exclusive staves. Prologue usability only gets you so far, sadly. Although I still love him.  Nice of you to join us, Marth.   This Knight tries to gently caress with Catria and eats a crit for his troubles. One left now.   And that's all she wrote for this one.    Steve, you can heal now anyway!  : We have repelled the assassins, but we cannot afford to linger here. : I agree. I'm worried about Ogma. Let us hurry to Lord Wendell's place! I love how Marth calls it his "Place". Like it's Wendell's bachelor pad, filled with lava lamps and pin up posters of the world's sexiest pope hats.  : I warned you. The Altean army is strong... And that was only 6 of us! : Gosh, Eine. You can be annoying sometimes. Whose side are you supposed to be on? Don't tell me you're thinking of betraying Lady Eremiah? Important name alert. : ...No. That thought could never cross my mind. We all live for Lady Eremiah. For her sake, I must defeat Steve... I know that well enough. I'm sure that'll all be explained later. But for now, AN IMPORTANT CHOICE .  We missed you too, buddy.  :Not since knight training, eh, Sir Wrys? : Indeed, and you've become even stronger than you were then... ...Oh, did your hair grow a little? how can he tell  : Really? Well, it is true I haven't had the time to take care of it since we left Altea... : You know, a haircut like mine is astonishingly easy to take care of. : I-I can imagine... : If you so wish, I could shave your head, so it's like mine.  : Eh?That's 2 "eh"'s in this conversation alone. Did a Canadian translate this bit? I know you're there, Gnar avatar guy! (who has been super helpful in providing info on the fan translation and such thanks man) : As I'm a monk, I'm quite used to shaving heads. It's quite alright. If you don't like it, you can just let your hair grow and have your previous haircut back. THIS IS THE DECISION DREAMS ARE MADE OF. Will we abandon the trademark mop to follow in the path of Wrys, our best friend (Shut up, I have declared it canon  )? Or will Steve keep her hair? (If we vote for "shave" and regret it I can reverse it almost immediately afterwards so it's not a huge deal, but eh.)Here's the dialog for if you choose to shave, because I think it's funny. (The other option is literally one line of Wrys going "oh okay".) : Yes, please. : Very well. Then, give me a moment to prepare. ...Are you really sure? Does he just carry the scissors everywhere? Can that be a new class? Scissormancer? : Y-yes... : Then, please sit down. Now, close your eyes... And, uh...that's that. So, between now and this weekend, I'm going to leave voting open. WILL WE SHAVE THE STEVE? Just post your vote, bolding it helps. For reference...  Marth's reaction is gold.  Anyway, cast your votes, and next time we'll go into: Update 15: World's Best Disguised Paladin LordHippoman fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 14:47
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What, he doesn't shave you bald? Screw that, man.
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Jan 28, 2015 15:35
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Shave! Steve got strength, she's trying to tell you something.
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Jan 28, 2015 15:43
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Camel Pimp posted:What, he doesn't shave you bald? Screw that, man. I was disappointed by that, too - is it different for a male character, or do none get to be shaven bald?
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Jan 28, 2015 15:43
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Szurumbur posted:I was disappointed by that, too - is it different for a male character, or do none get to be shaven bald? Male MUs get a full bald shave. I'm guessing women don't because due to the lack of women using bald as a hairstyle in the world today, they would all look like cancer patients.
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Jan 28, 2015 15:48
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FoolyCharged posted:Male MUs get a full bald shave. I'm guessing women don't because due to the lack of women using bald as a hairstyle in the world today, they would all look like cancer patients. They could've at least offer a proper buzzcut, but then you wouldn't be able to see the hair colour, and that's too important.
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Jan 28, 2015 15:50
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Accept all potential cosmetic changes, and immediately revert at the end of the following chapter. Also, seriously, Steve doesn't want to be a mage, quit trying to force it. Also, making her a Cleric was the worst possible decision, since that cuts a further 10% off her magic growth.
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Jan 28, 2015 16:15
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EclecticTastes posted:Accept all potential cosmetic changes, and immediately revert at the end of the following chapter. Posh! Steve wants to be a mage. A muscle mage sure, but still a mage.
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Jan 28, 2015 16:18
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Szurumbur posted:I was disappointed by that, too - is it different for a male character, or do none get to be shaven bald? Different for men. Actually all the hat/hair changes we'll see have different effects on both genders, even on things that seem fairly simple. EclecticTastes posted:Also, seriously, Steve doesn't want to be a mage, quit trying to force it. Also, making her a Cleric was the worst possible decision, since that cuts a further 10% off her magic growth. FoolyCharged posted:Posh! Steve wants to be a mage. A muscle mage sure, but still a mage. 10 levels and one point in Magic have left no longer believing in odds or logic. I'm going to start sacrificing goats before I play in an effort to please the RNGods. Honestly the Steve Mage thing isn't really a matter of gameplay efficiency or anything now, if it was, I would have gone Knight or Fighter MU like most. But the game's easy enough with the game giving you units like Palla up front and me only playing on Hard instead of Maniac/Lunatic or something. I'm not going for a turn count record or anything, so if the thread request was for a Mage MU, even if she doesn't know Mag exists, I can run with it.
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Jan 28, 2015 17:08
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LordHippoman posted:
Duplicate images here. Also, since this is my first time posting in this thread, just wanted to say I'm enjoying this LP so far. Also also, Steve is magic class for life, and I won't have it any other way.
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Jan 28, 2015 17:23
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Don't shave. It doesn't even make her bald.
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Jan 28, 2015 18:21
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Shave Steve, and her that way if she gains Mag next chapter 
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Jan 28, 2015 18:40
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Scrap Dragon posted:Shave Steve, and keep her that way if she gains Mag next chapter This. Though if that haircut means she's going to invoke Wrys, I wouldn't be surprised if she got Magic once and empty levels from then on. Sorry, Wrys, you're still awesome.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:08
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If nothing else you should post Marth's reactions because he gets progressively more and more freaked out at each hairstyle change. Eh, I don't think we had any Canadians on the team. There was a British dude, Americans, an Aussie, a Brazilian, and an Indian on the writing squad. Also you're very welcome! SC Bracer fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 19:19
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Glaive17 posted:Duplicate images here. Oh, poo poo, thanks for pointing that out, I thought I fixed that on the proofread. And thanks!
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Jan 28, 2015 20:57
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While I think that's a fine haircut, I still want to keep the mop.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:01
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SC Bracer posted:If nothing else you should post Marth's reactions because he gets progressively more and more freaked out at each hairstyle change. Basically, this is the entire reason why you should always accept the changes. You get a couple of amusing scenes, and can just change back at the end of the chapter. I find that those scenes also do a lot to add to MU's characterization (particularly the mask), making MU a bit more colorful.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:47
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Sacrifice Steve's hair to the RNG. If her Mag doesn't increase next level, switch it back.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:52
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Raitzeno posted:Sacrifice Steve's hair to the RNG. If her Mag doesn't increase next level, switch it back.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:58
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Raitzeno posted:Sacrifice Steve's hair to the RNG. If her Mag doesn't increase next level, switch it back. This
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Jan 28, 2015 22:00
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LordHippoman posted:
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Jan 28, 2015 23:43
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 Those MAG growths. And  oh man we have Wrys back I am so happy. (Now use him for the rest of the game. Come on, mage-Wrys might surprise us!)Steve's cold, dead stare is not for the world to see. For the love of Naga, don't let the scissors near her! (Although I'd support using all the different options for one chapter and then reverting at the end.) (Also I'm still disappointed that you don't get to be properly bald with a female character.)
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Jan 29, 2015 03:45
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Bald is Maybe Steve can try clubbing people with her staves? Katarina: "Don't underestimate Steve, she can totally heal you!" edit: I'm an idiot, my hands keep thinking Steve is a guy, yet my mind knows the truth. Darth TNT fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Jan 29, 2015 09:44
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Steve's a girl. Edit: Oh, you meant Wrys's staves. Sorry.
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Jan 29, 2015 11:23
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Darth TNT posted:Bald is Only in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn.
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Jan 29, 2015 12:54
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Raitzeno posted:Sacrifice Steve's hair to the RNG. If her Mag doesn't increase next level, switch it back. I agree! She might get a bad case of lice and be unable to serve her lord. CUT IT OFF you couldn't counter with staves in PoR, that was a Radiant Dawn thing. sages could choose knives instead of staves on promotion though 
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Jan 29, 2015 15:39
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At this point, I think we should just cut our loses and just have Steve become a Pegasus Knight.
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Jan 29, 2015 17:24
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Keep the mop, reclass Steve to Myrmidon. or pegasus knight I guess
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Jan 30, 2015 05:37
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Ultimately, I think we should make Steve a swordmaster so she can use some of that mag with Levin Swords. I love doing that with at least one mage per playthrough. There are enough of those swords in the game she could use basically nothing but and be set, but she could also exercise some of those muscles too if she prefers.
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Jan 30, 2015 06:29
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A mopless Steve is hardly a Steve at all. Keep it.
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Jan 30, 2015 06:35
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Lotish posted:Ultimately, I think we should make Steve a swordmaster so she can use some of that mag with Levin Swords. I love doing that with at least one mage per playthrough. There are enough of those swords in the game she could use basically nothing but and be set, but she could also exercise some of those muscles too if she prefers. I had forgotten Levins existed in this one and now I'm seriously considering this if people aren't super attached to MageSteve. I don't really mind either way, I just like playing this game and making dumb jokes over it. Plus Malicia is looking solid aside from Skill at the moment, and that is rarely an issue on Mages. Although, we will be getting some "proper" Myrms soon, including one I consider to be the best "Intelligent Systems gives you the middle finger" moment of the entire series. Thought you were getting Navarre? gently caress you, take this loser. You get him 1-2 chapters later anyway, but it makes me laugh everytime.
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Jan 30, 2015 07:47
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I'm not attached to mage Steve, I wouldn't mind her rocking Levin Swords.
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Jan 30, 2015 08:13
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Muscle mage Steve is the best and I will not hear any word to the contrary.
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Jan 30, 2015 08:18
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Shave the Steve
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Torrannor posted:I'm not attached to mage Steve, I wouldn't mind her rocking Levin Swords. While muscle mage steve is amusing, I don't mind this either.
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Cat Army 