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Silver Striker posted:I can't even tell what the gently caress you're trying to say anymore. some of the sidequests are pretty good and some have characters talent trees tied to them, others are boring and make you farm for rare drops or try and work with the game's lovely half baked radiant AI system to find people who only have their quests active for a few hours day, most of the former are locked behind the latter. xenoblade 2 would be a better game if it dropped these bad and unnecessary elements and i'd have more fun being able to play the whole game rather than ignoring good sections of it because they're so badly designed. hope that clears things up!
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Bobnumerotres posted:the wii one is a demo compared to how much content there is in 3U and theres probably another 6 months or so before we get 4U ( Well unfortunately no drat store seems to carry it anymore to pricematch so I had to order it and probably won't get it till tomorrow. I'm pumped. This better be good bobnumerotres or I'm coming for you, brother.
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) so i say go for it. especially if its 20 dollars
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Tender Bender posted:Well unfortunately no drat store seems to carry it anymore to pricematch so I had to order it and probably won't get it till tomorrow. I'm pumped. This better be good bobnumerotres or I'm coming for you, brother. i can rush you through the start of the game with my g rank gear if you want 
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Oct 31, 2014 20:35
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Bobnumerotres posted:i can rush you through the start of the game with my g rank gear if you want I appreciate the offer. While I may not accept your charity I will gladly Hunt with you. Is there a friends list or equivalent? The only online I've done with Wii U is Mario Kart with randoms.
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A Steampunk Gent posted:some of the sidequests are pretty good and some have characters talent trees tied to them, others are boring and make you farm for rare drops or try and work with the game's lovely half baked radiant AI system to find people who only have their quests active for a few hours day, most of the former are locked behind the latter. xenoblade 2 would be a better game if it dropped these bad and unnecessary elements and i'd have more fun being able to play the whole game rather than ignoring good sections of it because they're so badly designed. hope that clears things up! Yes this what I was trying to get at. I don't mind occasional fetch quests, but some of them are beyond the point of reasonableness. Collect 10 items, only that the items show up in one spot of the map at dawn, and even then there's only a 10% chance they'll spawn. Do that thousands of times and hope it finally shows up! Hey, don't worry you can trade for it. Oh wait, your area affinity isn't level 5 yet? Better do some more quests! Saying the "sidequests are optional so don't do them if you don't want to" is a bullshit argument. I play games to have fun and be challenged. Collecting things with a random chance of dropping is neither fun nor challenging.
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seiferguy posted:Yes this what I was trying to get at. Then don't do the quests. This is a simple solution.
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Nov 1, 2014 04:34
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Tender Bender posted:I appreciate the offer. While I may not accept your charity I will gladly Hunt with you. Is there a friends list or equivalent? The only online I've done with Wii U is Mario Kart with randoms. when you boot up the game you can talk to an NPC to connect to online servers, and theres an ingame friendlist. i wonder how many imps would be down for some MH
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Nov 1, 2014 04:48
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Silver Striker posted:Then don't do the quests. This is a simple solution. Yes then I lose out on the skill trees and good equipment. That's a lovely solution.
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Nov 1, 2014 08:13
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I am still hoping for a Crunchyroll App; until then I must use my PS3.
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Nov 1, 2014 08:15
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I am looking forward to 2015 regardless.
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Silver Striker posted:Then don't do the quests. This is a simple solution. hi, i like xenoblade a lot too, but just because you can ignore the fetch quests and still reach the credits doesn't mean it isn't bad design. it would be one thing if the only purpose of the quests was for bonus exp, like the ones in dragon's dogma, but there are actual cool rewards like skill trees and weapons that require you to do almost all of these quests. they are unnecessary padding for those rewards. the only quests that should raise area affinity are the cool ones like the nopon drug ring imo
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I did over 300 sidequests in Xenoblade on a single playthrough just to get the achievement. 300 was the highest but I wound up having to do more in order to unlock everyone's skill trees and to have 5 star affinity for all the areas. the collect ones can be a real pain in the rear end and the only way to fill out the collectapedia is to have 5 star affinity for some areas in order to get the items on the secret page. The Love Potion is a pain in the rear end because you need to kill one of the high level secret bosses to get the only item worth enough to trade for it. However you also need the skills from Riki in order to reduce the dollar amount needed in order to make it tradeable in the first place. You also need 5 star affinity for Colony 6 Also you need a second love potion so you gotta be max level in order to kill one the boss guys twice. Yeah some people can cheese it but it's very situational and you gotta be lucky with all the attacks lining up properly in the first place. Quest tracking is real lovely in Xenoblade because having stuff available at specific hours with no notification made poo poo a ton of guess work. Also never clearly marking the quest target or objectives on the world map and just having it show up when you were close enough on the minimap. The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Or ... *record scratch* You could just not do any of that.  *slips on sunglasses* *slides over hood of car* *peels the gently caress out*
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codenameFANGIO posted:Or ... *record scratch* Yeah you could not do any of that, but bad game design is when you're playing the game and having to ignore a large part of the game when it's considered not that fun. Mind you without doing quests it's a pain in the rear end to grind affinity to unlock the heart to heart events. And without affinity from quests you can't unlock the party tree abilities in a timely fashion.
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The Taint Reaper posted:Yeah you could not do any of that, but bad game design is when you're playing the game and having to ignore a large part of the game when it's considered not that fun. 
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Nov 1, 2014 14:28
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Pull out soldier! Do not engage the Taint Reaper! It's hopeless!
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The irony of videogames is that you best enjoy them when you learn to ignore anything that's not fun because 100% completion is stupid, but by the time you realize this you're grown up and don't have time for videogames.
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taintr eaped again
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Tender Bender posted:The irony of videogames is that you best enjoy them when you learn to ignore anything that's not fun because 100% completion is stupid, but by the time you realize this you're grown up and don't have time for videogames. also just have more videogames to play these days im not a little kid waiting for christmas till i get my next game so im trying to suck the life out of DKC2 until then, i have a major backlog im going to ignore to replay diablo 2 like a loving well-adjusted adult
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Hey I'm your friend's older brother who you thought was really cool when you were a kid. Buy a freakin Wii U, idiot.
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Sir John Feelgood posted:Hey I'm your friend's older brother who you thought was really cool when you were a kid. Buy a freakin Wii U, idiot.
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Mercury Crusader posted:taintr eaped again Good lord. I'm not even safe in my own threads. What a hosed up world we live in.
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Silver Striker posted:Good lord. I'm not even safe in my own threads. What a hosed up world we live in. Protect your taint. Buy a Wii U.
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i love imp zone but constantly guarding my taint is a chore
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If you're in the UK, shopto has a load of discounted games. I got New SMB U and Wii Party for about £12.70 each, and Sonic Lost World for £15. It's weird since you still see the original DS NSMB for £30, and that's been out for a decade. The only discount it's gotten is from inflation.
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Bobnumerotres posted:also just have more videogames to play these days You have quite a treasure there in that 14 year old arpg.
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Dexters Secret posted:Pull out soldier! Do not engage the Taint Reaper! It's hopeless! why would you bother engaging him when he's very much right in this case
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mad lols at people criticizing jrpgs for busywork sidequests
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:I ordered a refurbished one from Nintendo this morning. I'm pumped as hell. i hope my thread raised awareness
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My copy of Bayonetta 2 arrived today, but my Wii U still has like a week to get here and now I wish I'd just driven to a store instead of ordering it.
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