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Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
Oh man, it's a much better quality than before.

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LiquidRain
May 21, 2007

Watch the madness!

It is much better, but it's not quite there. It's still lacking a lot of saturation and clarity somehow. Not sure how you're capturing. For reference, VideoGamer screenshot vs yours:


SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

If it's too hard to fix the capture, you could also just do a batch operation with irfranview and bump the brightness by 15% and the contrast by about 30%.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
It's not a problem with the capture, I'm just unsure what the correct brightness and contrast actually is.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
Fort Gandala is in the can for me by the way, you'll also get lots of me waxing poetic about the BEST ARTE IN THE GAME DEATH KNELL KING OF SKILLS.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
Tales of Xillia: The Lost Skits proudly presents:



Of course, Jude. Everyone believes you.

Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jun 28, 2015

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
It's odd how everyone thinks Jude's concern for the people he travels with is somehow weird and inexplicable.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
She's only traveling with them at all because he's concerned. He picked up a random girl off the street, as far as anyone else is concerned. She's not a "party member" to them.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Feinne posted:

Fort Gandala is in the can for me by the way, you'll also get lots of me waxing poetic about the BEST ARTE IN THE GAME DEATH KNELL KING OF SKILLS.

Is it that good? If i'm remembering correctly I don't think I ever used it, and Milla was like the character I spent the 2nd most time as.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
CH10: The Kingdom Strikes Back



: Cline Sharil had made his decision.


: It's time to stand against these tyrants. It is the only way to protect this precious peace of ours.
: Are you going to rebel?
: Is there going to be a war?
: I am certain Nachtigal has consolidated his power for an invasion on Auj Oule.
He has already shown that he's willing to sacrifice his own people to satisfy his ambition.
If he isn't stopped, countless lives in Rashugal and Auj Oule will be lost, all for naught.

: I am the governor. And protecting the people who live here is something that I must do.
: That's not easy.
: You're right, but I'm responsible.
Now, will you lend me your aid?
: But, well I--
: Deposing Nachtigal is in everyone's best interest. We must unite for this cause.


: It's just too bad Nachtigal had made his decision first.






: Master!
: Cline!
: drat it!




: That guy's such a good shot with that little hand-cannon. It's not the length that matters, it's how you use it.
: Heal him, quickly!
: Uh, right!



: Nachtigal was going to put all their work rescuing Cline to waste. I really hate it when that happens.




: This arrow is...


: No matter what Jude did, the wound wouldn't close.
: Some wounds are too much for ordinary healing artes.


: Rowen, you can't expect miracles.
We know that the wound is mortal. It's up to you to look after the country now.
: But I know that I'm not up to the task. It's impossible.
: You of all people can do it. I know that you can.


: M-Master, no! Don't go.
Guard: Lord Cline! *Gasp*

: Please, continue with your report.
Guard: Yes, sir! The Rashugal army has invaded the town. Our troops are engaged throughout the city.
: Things just went from bad to worse.
: Milla and the others are out there!
: Very well. We must protect Lady Driselle at all costs.
Master, please forgive me for having to leave your side.
We must defend the manor.
Guard: Yes sir!
: Let's go.



: By the time they got there it was already a bit late.


: Lady Driselle!






: I'll leave explaining how the mighty Maxwell lost to her fanboy here.
: MMMMMPH
: Shouldn't you take your... hair off his mouth to let him explain?
: I want to finish my part first. Anyway...


: Let's clear out these goons!
: No! It will take too long and waste our energy.


I'm gonna complain about the shot framing here a little. The camera really should be pointed a bit more to the right.


And it should zoom in some in addition to panning up.

: Stand down this instant! What point is there in fighting after you've completed your mission?
Or are you mere savages who take delight in the suffering of your countrymen?


: I can't believe it. Actually reasonable enemies?
: Let us return to the manor.
: Right.





: Everything okay?
: Yes. I have made arrangements for Lord Cline's funeral, although the ceremony will be brief.
: How could this have happened?
: The arrow that took my master's life was of a unique design, one used only by Nachtigal's personal guard.
And considering the timing of the army's invasion, it's obvious this was all a plot by Nachtigal.
The assassination allowed him to seize complete control of Rashugal.
: Nachtigal does think big.
: I wonder where they took Milla and the others.
: Fort Gandala, most likely.
A single division of troops couldn't possibly attack multiple cities in a short time.
It's reasonable to assume that Sapstrath Seahaven remains safe and under Sharil control.
Thus, our attackers must have been ordered to return to Fennmont.
And Fort Gandala is the only place equipped to house troops between here and there.
: Good thinking. Makes sense to me.
: We have to save them!
: I like your moxie, kid, but we're talking about a fortress here. It's not like we can storm the walls.
: On the contrary. We do need to rush. Tonight may be our only chance.
The morale among those troops was visibly low, and now they've been forced to march home after battle with no rest.

: They'll be at their weakest, and don't forget we have a trump card ready and waiting.
: That's right! The men we sent to infiltrate the fortress!
: We should depart at once.
: A butler, huh... Who is this old man, exactly?



Skit: Milla's Champions


: Are you so surprised? These are the same thugs who snared the Four Great Spirits.
: And I let the same thing happen again.
: Let's get moving, gentlemen. We can't afford to suffer any more losses!
: Aren't you listening? These guys are way out of our league!
: Don't be ridiculous, they haven't a chance! Especially against a warrior of your considerable talent.
: Hmm? Didn't take you for the sort that props up comrades with sweet talk.
: That depends on the comrade. Does it seem to be working?
: A nice effort, but I only fall for flattery when it comes from the lips of a lady.
: Then let's go save Milla and the others. I'm sure they'll praise you.
: Oh yeah? Well then, I guess I'll put out a little effort.



: They encountered two merchants on the way out of the city.


Man: Don't you work for the governor?
: I do indeed. I am Rowen Ilbert, the Sharil family butler.
Man: Well, you really stuck it to them earlier. They should be ashamed of themselves for attacking civilians.
Let alone kidnap women and children!
Woman: At least they scattered off afterwards. I guess they're not used to having someone challenge them.
: They did seem a bit disorganized. Maybe their morale is low?
: That may very well play a part.
But the main reason they ran off is because they hadn't been ordered to kill us.
: If they had, would they have done it? Even despite their misgivings?
: That's what soldiers do.
: That's what all grown-ups do. Working isn't supposed to be easy.
: I guess so.



: So according to Rowen the "slight depression by the side of the road, combined with the opaque bottom of the fence, blocked the line of sight of the guards" or something. I don't do sneaking around in the dirt. It's dusty! Ick!




: So this is Fort Gandala. It looks like a steel castle.
: It was built to protect the trade routes. Ostensibly, anyway.
But now it would seem they have abandoned all pretense.
: So, how do we get in touch with your man on the inside?
: Follow me.


: Jude, I need you to climb into that shaft. Tap on the wall once, twice, and then twice again.
If you hear three taps followed by one, that means everything is ready.


: I got the go sign.
: Good. Let's proceed.



: OK Mr Thick-skull, this is the good stuff. Tell the story well or else.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Is it that good? If i'm remembering correctly I don't think I ever used it, and Milla was like the character I spent the 2nd most time as.

Ain't no party like a Death Knell party 'cause a Death Knell party never lets the loving enemy get up.

Anyway I'll have my Fort Gandala stuff soonish, maybe tomorrow?

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
Nice reflexes, Jude. Oh, YOU'RE too good for an arrow to the face, but the important guy isn't? (Also, that's a really impressive lethal range for a handgun.)

Drizzle's kidnapping count: 1

I did like that guy carrying Teepo in the manner of one carrying a bag of infected dog crap.

Bufuman
Jun 15, 2013

Sleep in the briefing room.
At your own peril.

Feinne posted:

Ain't no party like a Death Knell party 'cause a Death Knell party never lets the loving enemy get up.

I'm more partial to Sigil Spear. When a move is fast enough that the user can run out of AC, pause long enough to recover them, then continue spamming the same move, ALL WITHOUT BREAKING THE CURRENT COMBO, that's an awesome move right there.

Seriously I have a 472-hit combo on my record entirely because of that one move.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Public assassinations. Wow, they must be really confident in their ability to seize control and suppress rebellion.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
HaHA, now it is time for the greatest tale of all, the time Milla singlehandedly destroyed the Rashugal military an-
Okay I’m going to check you right there, tell the story right or there will be consequences.
B-But I’m just-
No. Seriously. I’m not playing around.
Fine, if you insist. Let me set the stage: Milla, Elize, and Driselle were engaged in the mysterious and shadowy pastime known to man only as ‘girl time’. Who can say what-
They were shopping, imbecile.

Video- Milla 3-1

Watch


Wow! That’s not cheap! Just how much money do you have, Driselle?
Now, don’t be rude, Teepo.
Thank you.
Heh, my pleasure.
Hmm?
You like that pendant, Milla?
No. It’s just similar to something I already have.

She held out a small marble, which-
Had an epic story attached! See, she captured it frommmph!
Just stop.



It’s just a boring glass ball.
It is very pretty, though.
Why do you have that?
It was given to me long ago by a human child.
And you’ve carried it ever since? What if you dropped it? That would be a dreadful shame.
Shopkeeper: I would be happy to make it into a pendant like this one.
Good idea! Let’s do it.

Anyway, they turned the marble into a pendant. Are you ready to start telling the story right?
Y-Yeah, okay, fine, just stop choking me already.
For now.



This is quite pleasing to the eye. Thank you.
???: Aah! Stop, please!

Unfortunately, the cowardly Rashugal military chose that time to attack Sharilton!





Soldier: Resist and we will show no mercy!

Bolstered by the presence of the mighty lord of spirits, Driselle confronted the ruffians.



the governor himself has ordered all Rashugal troops to leave this city.
And you are?
A member of House Sharil.
Hmph, foolish girl.

The leader of the attack explained the situation.



What?!
Take them into custody. House Sharil is conspiring to rebel against the throne.
I don’t like the sound of this! Let’s run!
The doll is right. We must escape before we’re surrounded. Something major is at play here.
Stick with me, you two.
Okay.
Well, who do we have here?
Yah!

Coward that he was, he was forced to the ground by mere fear of Lady Milla!



Feinne’s Notes:
We have a fight here against two Rashugal troops, and no matter how well we do we can’t kill them. Allow me now to extol the virtues of the greatest arte of all, Death Knell. Death Knell is a leaping downward slash that will knock down any enemy that is capable of being knocked down and isn’t guarding. It will take enemies to the turf time and again and render them unable to do much of anything. There are further some other benefits to taking enemies to the ground which we’ll see within the next couple of updates.

How could such weaklings defeat the lord of spirits?



I was about to ask you that, since it objectively happened.
I blame trickery and unfairness! Perhaps a conspiracy!
For once I almost have to agree with you, I’m not sure how those attacks even worked.



Eek!
Oof!

P-Perhaps it was simply a ploy on her part, though! She wished to infiltrate Rashugal by pretending to be captured!
Yeah, no.



Is it over? You got them, yes?
Arrest them all.

And what’s more, the terrible grey jerk seemed to have taken an interest in the rude doll!



Lady Milla awoke in a dungeon.



Please, open your eyes.
Urgh…
Thank goodness.
Where are we? A cell?
We’ve been taken to Fort Gandala.
I see…
You decided to finally wake up.

The cheating jerk from before was there.



I am GIlland, deputy chief of staff for the Rashugal military.
Hmph. Call yourself what you will. You’re just another of Nachtigal’s dogs.
Heh heh heh. I’ll take that as a compliment. There’s something I’d like to ask you.
You stole the key to our device, yes?
What device?
And I hear you hid it somewhere, correct?
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Heh.
Soldier: On your feet! Out of the cell! Move!

They led the three of them, and some random woman they captured, out of the cell and into the hallway.



Where did you hide the key?
What key?
Woman: Wait, what are you—

The guard tossed the woman they’d brought into a glowing field of energy…



…and the device on her leg exploded!





No!
H-How horrible.
Look at your ankles. That woman was wearing the same device.
If you pass through that hex zone while wearing it… Well, you saw what happened.
You won’t get away with such brutality! It’s a violation of the Sapstrath Convention!
Now, where is the key?
You’re wasting your time.
Eek! No!

The coward continued his threats.



Your threats are meaningless to me, human.
I have no fear of death or injury or loss.
Go ahead and push me through. Push us all through.
Maybe then you’ll see I’m not kidding.

Before he could respond, someone had a message for him. And I think this next part speaks for itself.
Yeah honestly I don’t want to hear your gross embellishments of something actually pretty cool.



Preparations for the experiment are complete. I leave the prisoners to you.
Make her tell us where the key is, or else.
Soldier: Yes sir!



Heh, what’s wrong? Your boss left you a big job and you have no idea how to accomplish it?
Why not start with a full-body search? You’ll learn quickly I don’t have this key on me.
Soldier: Fine.





Oh Lady Milla, you were so amazi-
I said no! Bad idiot, bad!



Not the sharpest blade in the Rashugal military, are you?
Now let’s see if the hostage strategy works on your comrades. Drop your weapons.

As it happened hostages did work on the guards, who were promptly knocked out and locked back in the cells.



I’ve had enough of this place.
Driselle, I don’t suppose you can wield a sword?
I figured. Elize, you look after her.
I can’t. Not without Teepo.
What?
I need Teepo to fight.
It’s okay. I can look after myself.
Don’t cry, Elly. I’ll protect you.
Let’s go.
Very well. We’ll need to get these shackles off first.
Right.
Hmm, we’ll need a key or some means of deactivating it.
We’ll find our solution. And find Teepo as well.
Okay!

Feinne’s Notes:
So yeah, for this dungeon we’ve only got Milla in the party because Elize is without Teepo. It’s not a significant problem, though, even if you’re not a rude jerk like me using NG+ stuff.

Skit: Hexed

Watch


Elize, Driselle, we have to hurry.
But if we get careless, our hex shackles could explode!
Gilland said they only explode when you step in a hex zone.
It seemed quite precise. It should not explode otherwise.
You have that much confidence in our enemy’s traps?
It’s merely conjecture. There could be any number of other possibilities.
So in other words, we can’t be sure of anything!
That is correct. But no one can ever make guarantees about the future.
I’m a daughter of House Sharil. I can get through this. I can’t be scared.
Are we going to be okay?
Yeah. Hang in there, Elly.

At that point, Milla began a rampage through the Fort so legendary that the Rashugal military would-
Have I hit you in the head too many times or something? Is it my fault you keep doing this? No, it was really boring.

Feinne’s Notes:
I’m going to summarize the dungeon in like chipmunk time because it’s kinda dull. There’s an elevator we need a key for, so we go over into the only other room we can and run into a dude we have to fight.



Excellent. I believe this is the key to their control room.
Will Teepo be there?
He has to be. We’ll find him soon, okay?


Then SURPRISE SKIT INTERLUDE COMMENCE.

Skit: Higher Duties

Watch


Are you okay?
Don’t worry. I will protect you.
Thank you.
You just said that you were willing to sacrifice us. Now you’re going to protect us? Which is it?
Hmm? It’s both. If I can protect you, I will.
However, if I’m forced to make a hard choice, I will not hesitate to do so.
That is my duty as the guardian of this world.
……
We can’t tarry any longer. We have to move on.
I don’t know how anyone could carry that burden.
I understand. My brother has that duty too.

Skit: Without Teepo


Elize, fear and panic won’t bring Teepo back to you.
But, still…
Milla, can we stop for a minute?
I’m going to teach Elly my secret magic spell. Here, take my hand, and jump up three times.
If you do that, you can give me half your sadness, and you’ll feel halfway better.
Okay.
There. Don’t you feel better now?
A little bit.
See? When I was little, my brother used to take my hand and cast this spell with me.
I think we’re ready to go.
Driselle…
I’m sorry. I’m not good at channeling spirits. This silly little spell is all I have.
No. It’s a wonderful arte.
Thank you.

Now is the time for block pushing puzzles. There are blocks and elevators we need to use to move them. Sometimes you go through a vent. You don’t actually need to do any of them, progress is up the freight elevator you use to move the block downstairs. Up on the next floor we fight another dude in a room.



Let’s keep moving.
Wait. That soldier had this on him.
Looks like a key.
Well spotted. Thank you, Driselle.
See, even I save the day sometimes.

With that key, we can access the main elevator in the hall and go to any of the floors. I think there’s some more block puzzles in the basement, but progress is on the first floor.

They found a strange lab, where terrible experiments were taking place!
Way to just jump right to the point. Idiot.

Video- Milla 3-2

Watch


Scientist: Mana lobe activity is off the meter.
We’ve recorded an instantaneous value of 585,000 rayles from the mana discharge.
Heh heh, magnificent.

Anyway, the guy they were experimenting on didn’t really find all this ‘magnificent’.





Lady Milla could hardly stand by while such barbarism was occurring!





What the—Hey, how did you get here?!
Elize, Driselle, jump!
What? But I… I can’t!
Don’t be afraid. I’ll catch you.
B-But…
Your best friend is about to be taken from you again. Is that what you want?
Teepo…!
You have to jump. I know you can do it.



I did it!



Unfortunately, things were about to get much worse.



King Nachtigal!
Nachtigal!
Did they disrubt the experiment?
Yes, Your Highness, but not before we collected the data.
Very good, well done.
Nachtigal!

Because the King was rather powerful.
Hmph! I suspect treachery here as well, as facts do not live up to my expectations!



I am going to put an end to your petty ambitions right now!
So is this her?
Yes.
So is this girl really supposed to be the Lord of Spirits?
Oh please, don’t make me laugh.
Urgh…

You can suspect what you like, but he rather casually tossed her to the side.



Fortunately for her, some help arrived about then.



With the Lance of Kresnik, know that I will bring Auj Oule to its knees.
That’s why you invaded Sharilton?
How can you keep committing these atrocities?!
Silence, boy! These matters are not meant for children such as you.
How dare you!
You didn’t really think you could stop me, did you?

Some of which was actually good for something other than talking, though I contend Lady Milla would have miraculously caught that thrown sword at the last second.
Keep telling yourself that.



Hmm?!
Ilbert? Is that you?
Soldier: Rowen Ilbert…
Wait, what?
The Ilbert from the history books?! “Ilbert the Conductor”?!
What business could oen who cast aside both his army and his kingdom have here?
Lady Driselle, I’m so pleased to find you safe. I was beside myself with worry.
Hmph. You have fallen far, Ilbert, but your new role as a servant suits you.
Your Highness, this way. You need not trouble yourselves with these criminals any longer.
Get back here!

And then Milla ran after them alone.





Mana-boosting technology like that could pose a real threat in Auj Oule’s hands.
What are you so afraid of? We’ll just have our military equipped with the same technology.
Well, it might not be that easy.
I do not care. Bring the data back to Fennmont at once.
Do you wish to use it on the Lance of Kresnik subjects?
Yes, and without delay.
Stop right there!
Aaah!

She had a rather bad habit of doing things like this.



Well, if it isn’t the phony Maxwell.
Tell me. Why do you use spyrix?
Why do you sacrifice your own people to attain power that you don’t need?
A king is supposed to protect his people.
Hmph, as if a charlatan like you could comprehend. It is my duty to rule this world. Is it my destiny!
But to fulfill this duty, to my country, to my people, power is a necessity. I must protect them both!
All kings derive power from their people. It’s a small sacrifice. And a worthy sacrifice.
Good speech, but it has one flaw.
Really? Then do tell.



And if you truly need something like spyrix to fulfill this precious duty of yours.
Then in the end, you will achieve nothing!
Not this false, twisted mission. And, not your imagined destiny. Nothing at all!
Hah! You can lecture all you want. It changes nothing.
You haven’t even scratched me yet.
It looks like there were more flaws than I thought.
What?

And, well, this.








That’s impossible!



Bwa ha ha! So this is the power of will over destiny? I still don’t have a scratch on me now, do I?

Somehow, even after exploding once, she still wasn’t done.



Your Highness!
You have no right to even talk about duty!

But she wasn’t quite fast enough. Also, are you going to talk? Like at all? This was supposed to be your section, right?




She never once hesitated.
Millaaaaa!
Your Highness, this way!
Urgh…
Milla!

It’s just rather painful to think of Lady Milla like this.



No way! You can’t be… Milla!
You two all riht? What’s wrong?
She’s… Elize! You have to heal her! Quickly!
Ugh.
She doesn’t look so good! She’s all busted up!
C’mon Milla! Open your eyes!
Why…?
Why did this have to happen?!
I wish I could say.
Soldier: There they are! The escapees! Get them!
Time to go. Nothing else we can do here.
Let’s get her back to Sharilton.

Anyway the cowards tried to stop their escape.



But Rowen was able to get them out.



Great, we’re done. Now go back to the corner so I can pretend you’re not alive for a while.

Bufuman
Jun 15, 2013

Sleep in the briefing room.
At your own peril.
Seriously, what WAS that attack that took down Milla and Elize? It just comes out of nowhere and there's never an explanation given for it.

I wonder if it's too late to change Milla's last name to Jenkins.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
House Sharil is conspiring to rebel against the throne.

To be fair, we totally are.

That was a totally lame battle in Sharilton. "Our heroine bravely battles her own sanity as the relentless rain of 'SHARING IS CARING' slowly wears away at her mind, when suddenly from offscreen, they're one-shot KO'ed by sinister PLOT BLASTS."

But in the fort, Milla was pretty badass there. Not just the disarm, but the "go ahead and push my friends into the death field and see how few fucks I give" part. Badass does not necessarily equal smart, though.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

House Sharil is conspiring to rebel against the throne.

To be fair, we totally are.

That was a totally lame battle in Sharilton. "Our heroine bravely battles her own sanity as the relentless rain of 'SHARING IS CARING' slowly wears away at her mind, when suddenly from offscreen, they're one-shot KO'ed by sinister PLOT BLASTS."

But in the fort, Milla was pretty badass there. Not just the disarm, but the "go ahead and push my friends into the death field and see how few fucks I give" part. Badass does not necessarily equal smart, though.



I'm not going to lie this is by a long margin my least favorite part of the game, this whole section is pretty rude what with the 'taken out by the same attacks we laugh off in combat but from OFFSCREEN' and then tossing Milla in the fridge. And there's still more next time, but I'll leave that for wdarkk.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I wonder if she's expecting to reincarnate?

That aside, it's a pretty amazing move to try to take someone else with your own explosive collar or collar-equivalent.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

But in the fort, Milla was pretty badass there. Not just the disarm, but the "go ahead and push my friends into the death field and see how few fucks I give" part. Badass does not necessarily equal smart, though.



I really liked that Milla told the hostage takers to go take an hike, it's rare in fiction for the hero not to go idiot in those cases, especially against villins quite clearly arguing in bad faith (Driselle and Elize would have been guinea pigs by the end of the day no matter what).

I also can't fault Milla for her :black101: idiocy. How is this different from all the stupid poo poo jRPG heroes or action movie protagonists pull off, after all? Sometimes the line between insane bravery and suicidal idiocy can be determined only post-facto. You could have this scene during the endgame with no change but the outcome and it would not be out of place.

Glazius posted:

I wonder if she's expecting to reincarnate?

That aside, it's a pretty amazing move to try to take someone else with your own explosive collar or collar-equivalent.

It's not exactly an explosive collar (anklet, whatever), it's a tracking device for automated lightning artes. You step in a forbidden zone, automated defenses zap you. Milla decided she could totally take on Nachtigal while constantly dodging the bolts :black101:.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender

Omobono posted:

I also can't fault Milla for her :black101: idiocy.

I can.

quote:

How is this different from all the stupid poo poo jRPG heroes or action movie protagonists pull off, after all? Sometimes the line between insane bravery and suicidal idiocy can be determined only post-facto. You could have this scene during the endgame with no change but the outcome and it would not be out of place.

I think the difference is that she blew up. That seems like an important difference to me. Insane bravery was chasing alone after the guy who literally single-handedly and effortlessly bested her in combat. It became suicidal idiocy when she decided to cross the death field for round 2.

"It happens in other fiction" isn't a great excuse. I bet you wouldn't jump through the glass of a second story window just because you saw it on a TV show once. It's common sense to not enter a death field if you have no certainty that you can survive it. So her title is well-deserved. Don't misunderstand me - I'm not angry or upset that Milla acted like that, not at all - but that's not going to stop me from pointing out that it was dumb.

Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 5, 2015

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Well, the point of the scene is just that she doesn't value her life in the slightness, if she can sacrifice it to get even slightly closer to her goal. The stupidity is that killing herself for a tiny chance at success doesn't actually help her achieve her goal in any way.

But what I'd say the actual difference between this and a last act sacrifice is that there's no particular reason to be so desperate here. Normally they'd say something like "this is our only chance or the villain will succeed!" Whereas here there's no urgency at all.

Clarste fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jul 5, 2015

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
I really wish it was just Jude who got very badly hurt because of Milla's recklessness because I think that would have been a much more sensible piece of character development than what actually happens.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

I don't quite like the way how Mila gets injured but I think the scenes that latter happen because of it are pretty good for establishing just what makes Milla special, and why everyone basically looks up to her. And I don't think Jude getting injured would really show that so well. Since due to this injury we see how driven she is and how she refuses to quit even for a second, which shows just how ridiculously strong of a person she is as this major setback barely phases her and she remains as confident as ever. If Jude was injured instead I don't think we'd get that, if anything it'd give her some major doubt but given how focused she is she's probably continue on anyway which would just make her seem callous for likely abandoning Jude. It also factors in to Jude's arc as he wants to give up immediately but upon seeing her determination he finds his resolve as well, because she inspires him and he wants to be like her.


On another note, this dungeon messed me up on Jude's route. I got so lost and I was stuck in there for way longer than I should've been.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
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Update delayed due to some sort of weird technical problem. I have to say I hate the HD-PVR 2, and I'd have never used it if they hadn't sent one back instead of my HD-PVR.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
CH11: Hope and Despair



: Thank you for that... mostly unbiased explanation of events from Milla's end. I'll continue now.


: Good work. You have my gratitude and that of the late Lord Cline.
Guard: Everyone in the fortress has heard what happened in Sharilton.
It's hard for any of us to come to grips with this.
: The fortress was designed around a large central corridor that in peacetime would constitute the road between Sharilton and Fenmont. The guards on duty in that central area were all Sharil infiltrators.
: I'd offer my shoulder to cry on, but we're kinda in a hurry here. What's going on inside? The short version.
Guard: Uh... of course. Lady Driselle and the others are locked in a cell on the second floor.
But that's not the worst of it.
All the prisoners have had their legs bound with hex shackles.
: And those are?
Guard: If anyone wearing one of those shackles steps across a hex zone like the one over there, then it's designed to explode.
: What?
: So even if we free them from their cells, they won't be able to escape until we can disable those shackles.
: It would take far too long to track down the keyholder.
I suggest we seize the fortress' control room, instead. Then we can deactivate the whole security system.
Guard: We've been unable to pin down the control room's location. I'm sorry.
: Don't worry, we'll figure the rest out. You've been a huge help.


: Not to put the cart before the horse, but we should make sure we have a way out of here.
: Would you see to our escape plan?
Guard: Yes sir.
We'll commandeer a carriage.
Here, you'll need this key. It allows you to operate the elevators.



:siren: Dungeon Video is here, it's got block puzzles I guess :geno


: They had areas where you had to stack blocks to get around! I'm told people are really tired of that. I wouldn't know, I can float over all that.




: On their way through they got another key off some guy. He dressed a little fancier so I guess he was important? Humans. Anyway he got killed pretty hard.



: I thought you said hunting for keys was a waste of time?
: Life is full of surprises, mercenary.
: Lessons from a butler. Just what I needed.





: Oh, after Milla ran off to get herself maimed going 1v1 with a guy much stronger than her, the door slammed in Jude's face and he had to fight all the soldiers trapped in with him.
: Milla!
: drat it! Get out of our way!


: These guys couldn't even have a guy in fancier armor to break up the monotony. So lame.


: Neither of them had the key to the door though.
: Urgh!


: Something was wrong with Teepo, too.
: Not talking, huh? His batteries kaput?
: We need to get this door open! Milla needs us!
: Everyone, listen up!


: I... Can't see them in this picture.
: Maybe they're inscribed on a control panel nearby or something. I don't really know much about human technical stuff. Or at least I didn't until... WHOOOPS! Almost gave it away.
: Doing so will open the doors and deactivate the hex shackles.
: But this fortress is huge. Its control inscription must be incredibly complex. Can you really destroy it?
: Not on my own.
I'll open a channeling circle. Everyone, pour your mana into it.
Ready yourselves.




: Urgh! Even with all five of us, we're still coming up short on mana.
: Hmmm. I doubt Rowen's calculations are off. Could one of them be deliberately withholding mana?
: It's possible, it's difficult to tell where mana's coming from if you're all inside the circle like that. Anyway around that time there was an explosion, which you can figure out what it was if you remember what derp boy there said.
: Whatever we do, we need to do it quick!
: Milla's in trouble!






: With Teepo back in action there was a huge surge of mana.
: We did it!


: The hex shackles were deactivated. Unfortunately, Milla was a little too impetuous there.


: Jude ran off after Milla the instant the doors opened. He's like a loyal little dog. So cute!
: Wait! Jude!
: Mornin', superpals! What did I miss?
: You're back!
: You've seen the rest, Milla's legs got chargrilled, daring escape, blah blah.



: They made it back in the carriage to Sharilton without further incident. Milla's condition hadn't changed.


: What do you expect? As if being captured by goons and tossed into prison wasn't exhausting enough, she learned her brother died, too.
: She apparently heard of Cline's fate when she was taken. She is surprisingly calm given the circumstances.


Doctor: She was fortunate to have someone with medical expertise nearby. And your healing artes were a real boon; they helped stop the hemorrhaging.
She has lost a great deal of strength, however. These next few hours will be crucial.
Please, get some rest, everyone.
I'll take good care of her.
: Shouldn't you rest as well, doctor?
You've been using spirit artes all day. You must be exhausted.
Doctor: Now hold on a second. I can say the same of you.
: The young man can handle this.
Please, doctor, this way.
: Is everything going to be okay?
: Milla's going to die?
: She'll pull through. I know she will.
You all should get some rest, too.
: I want to help too, if it's okay with you.
: Thank you.
: This isn't my specialty, so I'm gonna turn in.
: Okay.



: He stayed by her side for hours.






: It would seem the worst is over.
: Yes. She's breathing normally again. I think she'll be okay.
Doctor: Now it's your turn to get some rest.
: Just as soon as I tell Elize and Alvin.



: Thank goodness.
: Now we can thank Milla for the jailbreak!
: Yes.
: Where's Alvin?
: I'm not really sure, now that you mention it.
: I'll go find him.



: Alvin was at the Inn.


: Alvin! Good news!
: I know. She's out of the woods, right?
: Er, yeah. How'd you know?
: It's written all over your face.
Hey, have you ever heard what folks call this city?
: No, not really.
: "The City of Hails and Farewells."
It's a waypoint for travelers. They stock up on supplies here before heading out.
And people returning from a journey unload their surplus goods here.
I couldn't have picked a better place.
: What do you mean?
: That woman I was chatting with. She's my new employer.
: Huh? You're bailing on us?
: Why risk my life to accomplish someone else's suicide run? That's no way for a mercenary to make a living.
: Milla's just trying to complete her mission.
: What about my mission? Any idea what it might be?
: What? How should I know?
: I don't know either. Does anybody?
How many people do you know have a mission in life? One they're willing to risk their lives for?
: ......
: What's your mission, kid?
: I just want to help Milla. That's all.
: Fine. Nothing wrong with that.
: You could help her, too.
: I'll swing by to say goodbye before you all leave.



Milla Half posted:

Thanks Feinne
: Where am I?
......
: Milla, you're awake!
You're in my manor. Do you remember what happened?
Yes, I attacked Nachtigal, and then...
Thank goodness! Stay in bed. I'm going to call the doctor.
Doctor? What doctor?
Doctor: That's enough tests for today, young lady.
She's stable and alert. I think she'll be fine for now.
What happened to Jude and the others? Are they okay?
Miss Elize is downstairs.
Jude went into the city to look for Alvin.
You must be famished, Milla.
Doctor: Yes, you should eat what you can. You need to regain your strength.
I'll order something hearty. Let's head downstairs.
......
What's wrong?
I can't move my legs.




: By the time he got back, it was sunset.




: The second floor window is open.
That means Milla's awake!
: Yeah...
: What's wrong?
Doctor: There's something I should tell you.
: It can't be...


: Jude rushed off to her side. Elize tried to follow him, but Rowen dissuaded her.



quote:

I think these lines only appear if you're playing as Milla
: How much time has passed since I let him get away?
I can't stay here any longer.
: Milla?!


: Without the full use of her legs, the mighty Lord of Spirits couldn't even get out of bed properly.



: Yes. No tingling, no pain, no anything.
: ......
: Jude, where's my sword?
: Don't be ridiculous. You have to rest.
: I have rested long enough. I must get to Fennmont.
: You're still going on about your mission?! That's all over now! Don't you get it?
: Terrible bedside manner.
: What gives you the right to make that decision?
: Decision? Don't be stubborn. There is no choice here!
You don't have any strength left. You can't even walk, let alone wield a sword!
You have to accept reality.
: Jude, do you remember the people of Hamil?
: Huh?
: They were forced into a situation they didn't choose, and they didn't have the strength to fight against it.
: Well, yeah. Maybe things would've turned out differently for them if they were stronger.
: So what is strength, exactly? Is it something you wield to fend off attackers?
Is it something you use to control the Four Great Spirits? Is it something that lets you walk on your own two legs?
It's none of those things. Not real strength.
: Milla was beginning to figure things out for herself.
: You just won't give up, will you?
: I can't give up. My mission won't let me. I must keep moving forward.
: Even if your body won't move at all?
: That's who I am.
: ......
: Milla knew that giving up wouldn't accomplish anything.





: After acting like a putz in front of the woman he admired, he couldn't sleep well. It was the thoughtful kind of not sleeping well.


: Is something on your mind?
: It's just that...
A long time ago, my father healed a patient who had lost the use of his legs.
: Really?!
: Yes, really.
So I was thinking, we could visit my hometown, Leronde.
: What changed? You were so determined to hold me back yesterday.
: I was... I don't know why. I'm not sure what changed.
: Heh, if you say so.
: I just know there's nothing I can do to stop you. Even if you can't walk, you'll just crawl away and get into trouble.
: I kind of wish she'd gotten a wheelchair and invented a wheelchair-and-sword fighting style.
: I kind of want to see that as well.
:Hehehe. You really are...
: A do-gooder. Yeah, yeah.
: Thank you. I'm in your hands.
: Right. We can reach Leronde by boat, so let's head to Sapstrath Seahaven.





: I presume for the horse? Those things aren't cheap.
: Yeah. One time I stole a bunch of horses and... whoops. I shouldn't tell anyone that story. The horses were ok, that's the important thing.
: And you have my hopes for a full recovery.
: Please, take the utmost caution on your journey.
I'm truly sorry we cannot accompany you.
: No need to apologize. You have much to keep you occupied here.
Driselle's life is about to get very busy. She'll need your guidance.
: Yes.
: You're really leaving?
: Yeah. Take care, okay?
You don't have to worry about being lonely anymore. Driselle and Rowen will keep you company.
: I know, but still...
: We should get moving. Everyone, you've been a great help. I am in your debt.
: Time to hit the road. Thanks, all of you.


: Superpals, don't split up! We stay together forever!
: I hope we get to see them soon.


: So be it.



Skit Video: Jude's Hometown


: It's just a normal little boondocks town. It did use to be a famous mining colony, though.
: Since you're human, you must have parents. Are they a lot like you?
: I don't know about that.
: Aren't you looking forward to seeing them?
: Mmm...
My parents tend to prioritize work. We don't always get along.
: I've read about child-parent relationships. There's something called an "Oedipus complex".
: I'm pretty sure that's not it.
: Ah. So yours is more of the scheming, back-stabbing sort of family?
: Exactly what sort of books are you reading?!



: They forgot something back in town. I'm not sure what, but they turned around and checked up on Elize and Driselle while they were there.


Tales sidequests, folks.
: You're back!
: No, sorry... We're just stopping by.
: Oh... Okay...
: You got me all excited for nothing!
: Teepo seems to be back to his old self.
: Yes. Thanks to you getting him back for me.
: But now the team's all broken up...
: There's nothing we can do about that.
: Rowen and Driselle are too busy to play with us.
I'm so boooooored!
: Things have been hard since her brother died.
You're not supposed to be selfish now!
: But I just can't stop!
: Have you guys seen Alvin since then?
: No. He said he had another job, and we haven't seen him since.
: He's a heartless jerk!
: Don't say that, Teepo. Work is important to adults.
: Then you play with us, Jude! You're not an adult yet!
: W-Well, I, uh...
: I said no!
: Jude has to help Milla heal!
: I'm sorry to leave you all alone like this.
: Don't worry about me. I have Teepo.
: Look how brave she acts! Elly's all grown up too!
: Teepo, be quiet!
: Ha ha, yes, I see what you mean.



This next bit isn't in the video since it's not voiced.


: You seem to be in better spirits than I had expected.
: Oh yes, I'm fine.
Better than I had expected myself, honestly.
......
I guess I'm used to it. Even before this, Cline would often go away for months at a time.
He became the head of the family after our parents died, so he was always running around taking care of things.
: He really worked hard to help everyone in the city, didn't he?
: He really did. That's why I can't help but feel that one day he'll just come waltzing through that door.
He'll say, "I'm home, Driselle" like it's no big deal, and leave a bag of souvenir candy on the table.
He always thought he could cure my bad moods by bringing me candy.
But I just liked eating them together with him.
: Driselle...
: I'm sorry. I know in my head that he's gone, and he's never coming back.
I think my heart will catch up soon.
: The human heart obeys no timetables.
: True, but I'd like to think Cline gave me this time as one last gift.
I want to eventually tell him that he doesn't have anything to worry about.
I want him to know that I will carry on what he was trying to do, and mean it.
: You're very strong.
: No, I'm just repeating what I've heard before.
It's exactly what Cline always used to tell himself after our parents died.



Skit Video: Different Paths


: She has Rowen and Driselle with her. You don't need to worry.
: I wonder what Alvin's next job is gonna be? I hope it isn't anything too dangerous.
: He wouldn't last long as a mercenary if he turned down dangerous work.
: Haha, you really are a worrier, aren't you?
: It's not that.
: I just wish we could have all stayed together.
: This was inevitable. We all have different duties.
Cheer up. We'll see them all again.
: Yeah.



: They set out again, but once they'd gotten too far away to turn back, they encountered incliment weather.


: It's about to pour down on us. Better call it a day.
: Good idea.


: I can't even boil water without burning it.
: That's not true. Anybody can become a good cook with practice.
: Everyone has their own mission.
: Hah! So you're saying my mission is to cook for Milla Maxwell?
: Well, in my current state, I can't even do that.
I can't make dinner. I can't even make a bed anymore.


: Heh heh.
: Hey.
Sit closer.
I want to thank you.


: Thanks.





: Glad to hear it.


: One of the local boars was rooting around in hole in the rock face. They were planning to give it a wide berth, but...


: Something flung it out of the hole at incredible speed!


: The horse was ok, but it sure wasn't sticking around.



: And Jude had to fight the boar. It wasn't much of a challenge, the problem was the horse.
: Milla!
You okay?
: Sure, I'm fine. But, now what?
: H-Hey!


: I tried to get my guy to give me a piggyback ride, but he refused. "Your wings and legs are both in fine condition" he said!



Skit Video: Ilbert the Conductor


: I can't agree more.
: It isn't every day you get to ally with Ilbert the Conductor!
Milla-Down.pn: What's the reason behind his nickname?
: They say it's because he gains full control of the battlefield. He once crushed three armies in a single day.
: That's not the actual reason.
: The battle was called the "Procella Miracle", and it helped create the Rashugal we know today.
: I could tell he was no normal man, but I had no idea that he was such a famous tactician.
: It was such an incredible honor to fight beside a living legend like that!
: And how might it feel to fight beside the Lord of Spirits herself?
: Hm? Did you say something?
: Nothing. Nothing at all.



: Nothing else happened to get in their way to the seahaven.




: And then this rear end in a top hat showed up.
: Lady Milla! I finally caught up with you!
: Ivar, what are you doing here?
: When I saw your face on the wanted posters, I knew I just had to find you right away.
: But what about your duty to protect Nia Khera?
: I begged the villagers to let me come to your aid. They were very understanding.
: You imbecile! That's not the point!


: Lady Milla. Are you okay?
Your... Your legs...
: Milla!
: You! Tell me what you've done to her?!
: Stand down, Ivar. This wasn't Jude's fault.
I brought this upon myself.
: But you wouldn't be in this predicament if I'd been by your side.
Listen here, pipsqueak. Handmaids are made, not appointed! One must dedicate his life to serving and protecting Lady Milla!
It is an esteemed position for real men! Manly men!
She may have commanded it, but clearly it was a mistake to let an uncouth, unreliable, underhanded stranger like you serve her holy person!
Now, come with me, Lady Milla.
: Wait! My father might be able to heal her legs!
: If what you say is true...


: I will be the one to take her to see him.
I've had you pegged as a phony from the moment I laid eyes on you. Now, know your place and begone!
: You can accompany her if you like, but I'm coming, too.


: Hmph.
: Ivar! Stop this nonsense.
: Please, Lady Milla, stay where you are. You will thank me for this later.





So we've got ourselves a solo boss battle. That's the real reason they had you fight that boar, so that the player can get some practice controlling Jude. If you noticed the hiccup at the start of the fight, that's me inelegantly stitching over an attempt where I forgot to wear arteseal protection and decided to let him kill me.


Ivar's pretty easy to around-step.


: Have you ever considered that any fighting style where you smack the ground with your face THAT HARD if you miss might be a bad fighting style?


This sweep attack is unblockable.



If you mess up his attack combo is actually pretty large for an NPC.


: He's getting out a gel and you're busy attacking the air?
: It's a kata! I've got to finish it, I can't just stop.
: I don't think that's how it's supposed to work.


You probably can't back-step that normally, but if I'd done one of Jude's around-step things it'd work.

: Nice light spear. At least you managed to punish that gel.


What I said for Grave, but even more so.


Like that.


Aqua sweep knocks down foes and Steel forces them to stand, which is what I'm trying to do. Unfortunately, the way Xillia handles inputs fucks with me. Normally when I mash a button for action A until I see it start, then start mashing the button for B, I expect to execute A->B. Instead Xillia will execute A->A->B because it queues up those buttons I pushed in the middle of the arte.


: I'm astounded at the amount of punishment Ivar took there.
: Jude hit him in the head a few times, that does nothing.



: Pretty good for a phony.
: Call me whatever you want. I just want to help Milla!
: How many times do I have to tell you? That's my job!


: I don't have time for this. You two can duke it out as much as you want.
I'm leaving.


: I'm sorry.
: If you still aren't satisfied, I'll fight you again later. Right now we need to get moving.
: Hmph.


: Consider it as precious as my life.
The lives of the Four are counting on it.
: And you're entrusting it to me?! I shall defend it to my last breath, Lady Milla!
: I knew I could count on my handmaid. Now, return to Nia Khera.
: What?
: Your duty is to protect Nia Khera.
: B-But Lady Milla! My place is with you.
: Don't make me repeat myself.
: Guh...
Hurry up and take her.
But don't forget who's the real handmaid. This guy!
: Uh, sure thing. And I promise I won't rest until Milla walks again.
: You got that right!

wdarkk fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jul 19, 2015

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
Here is the video for that Milla-only section wdarkk noted.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
They clearly have lots of fancy technology, but apparently a motorized carriage is just too complicated?



And in today's lesson, Jude learns that metal doors are fist-resistant.

wdarkk, now that Feinne has posted the video, could you add portraits back to the scene you inserted (and the link to the video too, obv.)?

I wouldn't call Jude a putz for being upset that Milla was just going to charge back in. Especially since her getting crippled was her own fault.




I like how the party is splitting up here because they each have their own goals (even though Alvin's was a lie, it's a plausible lie). Alvin is a mercenary, not a soldier or worse - an idealist. Going up against an entire kingdom is just not a smart business move, and it hurts future job prospects. Rowan's concern is for his charge, a newly minted target for assassination. Jude's been pretty clear that he's been looking for a home for Elize, there's no reason to take her adventuring further. Plus, I bet Drizzle has some really fancy sheds.

The party splitting up because they have different priorities helps sell them more as real people.

Does anyone else think that a reference to Oedipus in the context of this non-earth planet breaks immersion more than all the weird stuff the planet has going on?

Milla still had the key on her? You know, for such an critical part for their weapon, you'd think that they'd do a better job searching her. Even if she hid it... very well. They have female soldiers. The first rule of taking prisoners is to secure their bonds. The second rule is to SEARCH THEM THOROUGHLY. Also by this time, you'd think that they'd just manufacture a new key. Why was there no backup key, for that matter?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
We blew up their backup key producer in a previous update.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
It's really sad because Driselle will just have convinced Elize that a mansion is effectively just a really large and fancy shed by the time Jude and Milla get back.

Also this section of the game blows because Jude is like my least favorite character to control and thank god we're maybe about to get a better option!

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
I'd never really played as Jude so his solo sections were harder than they should have been for me, thankfully the game does go easy on you, to a certain extent.

Polsy
Mar 23, 2007

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

Does anyone else think that a reference to Oedipus in the context of this non-earth planet breaks immersion more than all the weird stuff the planet has going on?

It's a translation of 'father-con [complex], mother-con', but yeah in that sense it doesn't entirely work.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
My only regret is that this section doesn't involve Ivar getting punched more.

Jude has come a long way to be able to just no sell having a sword pointed at his nose, not giving an ounce of a gently caress.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

lots of words have etymology that wouldn't make sense in a fantasy world, but still get used anyway. I don't think it's a big deal

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Yeah. Also it was funny.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Captain Oblivious posted:

My only regret is that this section doesn't involve Ivar getting punched more.

Jude has come a long way to be able to just no sell having a sword pointed at his nose, not giving an ounce of a gently caress.

If it were Alvin or Milia, he'd care. But it's Ivar. Being threatened by Ivar pointing a sword at you is like being intimidated by Adecor and Boccos.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

The Ivar fight owns a lot because Jude is really goddamn fun to play as when facing a single opponent (though I still enjoy playing as him most of the time). When I played the game he artesealed me early on and I just spent the rest of the fight pivoting all of his attacks and beating him to death with regular combos without getting hit. It's really fun.

It's also pretty cool because this stupid goober acts kind of like a mirror to Jude, he's super into protecting Milla and keeping her safe but in doing so he constantly disregards everything she says. While Jude starts off like that with his diagnosis of her legs, but he respects her and really looks up to her so she's the one who calls the shots and he just wants to support her decisions. It's a cool dynamic I feel.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
This makes me wonder how many incarnations of Maxwell are holed up in some kind of Nethack graveyard, because they went on a mission and didn't stop for anything and died of gangrene.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
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wdarkk posted:

We blew up their backup key producer in a previous update.

I don't know what you're referring to here. Wait, do you mean that thing where the lord guy was taken prisoner and there was an evil butterfly? That place in the middle of the woods was where they made the key? I didn't know that the keys needed to be forged in fires stoked with the souls of the damned. But secondly, that place was shoddily guarded. One assassin and the butterfly, that's it?


Glazius posted:

This makes me wonder how many incarnations of Maxwell are holed up in some kind of Nethack graveyard, because they went on a mission and didn't stop for anything and died of gangrene.

Probably not that many, because Milla is the first Maxwell to have been stripped of their powers and rendered into a mere mortal. Remember that she had no idea what sleeping or eating was before then. She's almost certainly a lot more durable and dangerous at full strength.

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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

I don't know what you're referring to here. Wait, do you mean that thing where the lord guy was taken prisoner and there was an evil butterfly? That place in the middle of the woods was where they made the key? I didn't know that the keys needed to be forged in fires stoked with the souls of the damned. But secondly, that place was shoddily guarded. One assassin and the butterfly, that's it?

It's an EEEVVVIIIILLLL technology, they're lucky it doesn't require unicorn blood or something.

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