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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

K. Waste posted:

To further emphasize: It's not just that the Babadook represents sorrow, but that it's a child. It can say and do a lot of horrible things, but it literally only has as much power as you give it because it fundamentally is not capable of surviving on its own. It grows out of control for the same reason as Amelia's actual child - she is so afraid of 'becoming a monster' that she creates one through passive ignorance of its bad behavior. Neglect towards a child's cognitive and social development is just as bad as outright abuse, so one creates a monster. The way Amelia comes to embrace the Babadook is an analogy for her realization of the dank, literally subterranean (in the basement) subtext of what being a parent is. You sustain and teach something purely out of compassion towards it as an extension of yourself, but this compassion in and of itself makes no loving sense, so unless you have faith in yourself and you're own convictions about what is socially appropriate and morally right, there's no point in doing it. She thought being a parent was about making sure her child was 'happy,' such that she forget the basic principle of survival upon which this is predicated.

The catharsis of The Babadook and the superior short proof-of-concept Monster (which is only superior because it's not as over-the-top and probably more appreciable to parents who aren't total depressives) is the same as a Louie C.K. sketch. The exact thing that makes a child innocent is precisely what makes them diabolical. By stripping away the naive, sentimental mythology constructed around the unique identity of the child as distinct from that of an adult, we recognize this irony, and are thus practically able to nurture and raise a child with the understanding that they are always preternaturally bad and are made good.

I think this is what Australians were thinking when they made this movie but it's pretty simple-simon ABC analogy stuff and the movie really suffered for it.

70/100 Babadook, watch It Follows and learn how to do horror movies Australia, OK.

Strange Matter posted:

Saw this with the wife last night, we both really dug it. What I appreciated most about it is how the film works equally well if you interpret the monster being real vs a product of the mother's mental illness. The one exception I thought of was where the pop-up book came from in the first place if you discount any actual supernatural events occurring, but then I remembered that she had told the women at her niece's birthday party that she used to write children's books, so it's conceivable that she created the book herself.

Of course she wrote the book and added on to the blank pages later and blah blah blah


Oh also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el72n7U4Pos&t=119s

raton fucked around with this message at 00:24 on May 1, 2015

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