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Digital-Smoke posted:I have a question for people who have been to prison. I came home last October and I'm still having problems fully adjusting. my girlfriend constantly complains that I don't show my emotions. I won't laugh or smile in front of people and I could be boiling mad and no one would know. e dry time she brings it up I apologize and tell her I'm not even aware that I'm doing it. another thing is crowds. I still tense up and feel very uncomfortable. like something bad may happen. I won't go in her fridge, I make her do it. I simply refuse to touch other people's stuff even if they give me permission a million times. the only time I seem to be really happy is when I'm alone with my dog duke. or if in around my friend of over a decade. he just got out of prison. when we are around each other it's like talking to one of your bros on the yard and not like someone you've known half your life. I feel like prison has left me an angry and incredibly broken person. You didn't ask a question, you will probably not get answers.
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Digital-Smoke posted:I have a question for people who have been to prison. I came home last October and I'm still having problems fully adjusting. my girlfriend constantly complains that I don't show my emotions. I won't laugh or smile in front of people and I could be boiling mad and no one would know. e dry time she brings it up I apologize and tell her I'm not even aware that I'm doing it. another thing is crowds. I still tense up and feel very uncomfortable. like something bad may happen. I won't go in her fridge, I make her do it. I simply refuse to touch other people's stuff even if they give me permission a million times. the only time I seem to be really happy is when I'm alone with my dog duke. or if in around my friend of over a decade. he just got out of prison. when we are around each other it's like talking to one of your bros on the yard and not like someone you've known half your life. I feel like prison has left me an angry and incredibly broken person. It's pretty clear you're asking how to adjust and be normal after a lovely experience like prison. I'm sure the goony shithead above me would realize that if he had an ounce of empathy in his cheeto-dusted body.
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Aug 17, 2015 20:01
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Digital-Smoke posted:I have a question for people who have been to prison. I came home last October and I'm still having problems fully adjusting. my girlfriend constantly complains that I don't show my emotions. I won't laugh or smile in front of people and I could be boiling mad and no one would know. e dry time she brings it up I apologize and tell her I'm not even aware that I'm doing it. another thing is crowds. I still tense up and feel very uncomfortable. like something bad may happen. I won't go in her fridge, I make her do it. I simply refuse to touch other people's stuff even if they give me permission a million times. the only time I seem to be really happy is when I'm alone with my dog duke. or if in around my friend of over a decade. he just got out of prison. when we are around each other it's like talking to one of your bros on the yard and not like someone you've known half your life. I feel like prison has left me an angry and incredibly broken person. Seriously, go talk to a therapist. Persons getting out of prison can have mild to serious PTSD or just need some extra help. It isn't a sign of weakness and what you're dealing with is something most people getting out of prison experence to some degree and is a leading reason why people go back.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:14
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Ithaqua posted:You didn't ask a question, you will probably not get answers. Lol you retarded
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Aug 17, 2015 21:34
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Digital-Smoke posted:I have a question for people who have been to prison. I came home last October and I'm still having problems fully adjusting. my girlfriend constantly complains that I don't show my emotions. I won't laugh or smile in front of people and I could be boiling mad and no one would know. e dry time she brings it up I apologize and tell her I'm not even aware that I'm doing it. another thing is crowds. I still tense up and feel very uncomfortable. like something bad may happen. I won't go in her fridge, I make her do it. I simply refuse to touch other people's stuff even if they give me permission a million times. the only time I seem to be really happy is when I'm alone with my dog duke. or if in around my friend of over a decade. he just got out of prison. when we are around each other it's like talking to one of your bros on the yard and not like someone you've known half your life. I feel like prison has left me an angry and incredibly broken person.
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Aug 18, 2015 00:43
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Digital-Smoke posted:I have a question for people who have been to prison. I came home last October and I'm still having problems fully adjusting. my girlfriend constantly complains that I don't show my emotions. I won't laugh or smile in front of people and I could be boiling mad and no one would know. e dry time she brings it up I apologize and tell her I'm not even aware that I'm doing it. another thing is crowds. I still tense up and feel very uncomfortable. like something bad may happen. I won't go in her fridge, I make her do it. I simply refuse to touch other people's stuff even if they give me permission a million times. the only time I seem to be really happy is when I'm alone with my dog duke. or if in around my friend of over a decade. he just got out of prison. when we are around each other it's like talking to one of your bros on the yard and not like someone you've known half your life. I feel like prison has left me an angry and incredibly broken person. Sounds like PTSD.
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Digital-Smoke posted:I have a question for people who have been to prison. I came home last October and I'm still having problems fully adjusting. my girlfriend constantly complains that I don't show my emotions. I won't laugh or smile in front of people and I could be boiling mad and no one would know. e dry time she brings it up I apologize and tell her I'm not even aware that I'm doing it. another thing is crowds. I still tense up and feel very uncomfortable. like something bad may happen. I won't go in her fridge, I make her do it. I simply refuse to touch other people's stuff even if they give me permission a million times. the only time I seem to be really happy is when I'm alone with my dog duke. or if in around my friend of over a decade. he just got out of prison. when we are around each other it's like talking to one of your bros on the yard and not like someone you've known half your life. I feel like prison has left me an angry and incredibly broken person. I'm being serious when I saw this is what therapy is for: prison time is a serious crisis for a lot of people and its not uncommon for people to get out a little bit changed (not for the better) from what they once were. You need to talk to someone about this in a neutral setting and come to terms with what has happened and make sense of what is and get adjusted for what is to come. Oh, and screw that goon that said "you didn't ask a question" because he didn't read between the loving lines and have a little empathy for another human being. Some people just like to be callous dicks on the Internet because it makes them look tough or pretentious or some poo poo. Edit: I actually started as a CO about six months ago (went through the training academy in that time as well) and I already have some stories to tell. Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Aug 25, 2015 03:23
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In light of recent news how would Jared fogle be seen/treated in prison realistally?
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Aug 25, 2015 12:19
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stringball posted:In light of recent news how would Jared fogle be seen/treated in prison realistally? The feds probably have a high profile unit.
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Aug 25, 2015 16:04
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According to some prisoners vice talked to there are a couple of federal prisons that are mainly filled with paedophiles. He'll probably get sent to one of them.Tim posted:"As far as the Subway guy goes, if he is sent to any USP [United States Penitentiary] other than Tucson, then he will be hurt or worse once he lands in there," a prisoner we'll call Tim who's been inside for over two decades tells VICE. "However, things have changed for chomos in the past few years... Prisons have so many of them that they make certain prisons, such as USP Tucson and [medium-security facilities] such as Marianna, Florida, just for them. If you are not a chomo and go to there, they tell you up front, 'If you put your hands on one, then you are getting ten more years.' They screen everyone going to those places."
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Aug 25, 2015 16:36
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Judging from the stories in here, even if he got put in a regular prison he'd probably be segregated into another unit. Kid diddlers are the lowest of the low and being so famous would make it even worse for him.
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Aug 25, 2015 17:23
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chitoryu12 posted:Judging from the stories in here, even if he got put in a regular prison he'd probably be segregated into another unit. Kid diddlers are the lowest of the low and being so famous would make it even worse for him. Even in County they are segregated. The cell across from mine was full of chomos and every time they lined up for chow nearly everyone in the adjacent cells would yell at them through the door.
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Aug 25, 2015 17:31
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GlassElephant posted:According to some prisoners vice talked to there are a couple of federal prisons that are mainly filled with paedophiles. He'll probably get sent to one of them. Interesting that those two facilities are in Arizona and Florida. Being a pedo is called "old white man's disease" inside.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:32
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stringball posted:In light of recent news how would Jared fogle be seen/treated in prison realistally? He'd be segregated from everyone else for his crimes. Pretty much any prison nowadays has a separate unit for the sex offenders. Him being a celebrity as well might complicate things and special attention could be given.
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Aug 25, 2015 19:38
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/i-ate-like-a-prisoner-for-a-week-%97-heres-what-happened/ar-BBm9sTp This seemed pertinent, and its even about the MI system. tl;dr is prison food is poo poo.
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Aug 28, 2015 01:25
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Yeah fogle would be ripped apart. Recently in Australia there was a reasonably high-profile 90's actor (prettymuch the local equivalent of danny tanner in full house) who was jailed for molestation of his child co-stars among others, and even being seperated from the general prison population he was still bombarded with containers of poo poo and piss when he walked through common areas.
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Aug 28, 2015 05:24
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I know there was at least one goon here who knows Valuum on a personal level... any idea what's up with him? Even on Facebook, folks are all "dude, where are you?"  HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/i-ate-like-a-prisoner-for-a-week-—-heres-what-happened/ar-BBm9sTp I couldn't make it through that entire write-up because, dang if you're gonna whine about getting a real orange and canned sardines, you ain't seen poo poo when it comes to jail food. I never saw any fresh fruit or protein-on-the-bone during my stay.
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he is probably going to a max depending on how long he gets, that being said he probably will only get probation. the system is unusually lenient on rapist and pedophiles. also even if he does go to prison he will be in a high profile unit. high profile units are were they place famous people, rapists, snitches and crimes that got a lot of publicity. but he will still come into contact with other inmates for commissary, packages, meal times, vocational, and rec. so there are plenty of opportunities for people to get him. for the most part at least in ny state prison, people would leave him alone. ny state made it a hate crime to hurt these guys anymore. so in less he's mouthy he'd be fine, besides jokes and name calling. there's also the chance someone might extort him because he is pretty famous and I'm assuming he has a lot of money. and prison food is disgusting, it's mostly reheated quick chill meals prepared at other prisons and then frozen. when it gets to your facility it is boiled in a giant tank and served. there is maybe one meal I'd eat on the outside. that is Jamaican beef patty with steamed cabbage, white rice, cake and chocolate milk. the rest of the meals are putrid. soy soy and more soy.
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Aug 31, 2015 19:20
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Digital-Smoke posted:he is probably going to a max depending on how long he gets, that being said he probably will only get probation. the system is unusually lenient on rapist and pedophiles. Last I heard they said minimum 5 years, maximum 11.5 according to the recommendations in the plea deal.
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Aug 31, 2015 21:27
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JacquelineDempsey posted:I know there was at least one goon here who knows Valuum on a personal level... any idea what's up with him? Even on Facebook, folks are all "dude, where are you?" In a relatively liberal town I saw fresh fruit but no unground meat during the month I was in. The biggest problem for me was the portions. I'm 6'2" and take a lot of fueling. Could never get enough calories from the food they gave us. Went from 180 to 165 in that month even though I ate every bit of food I could get my hands on.
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RandomCheese posted:and even being seperated from the general prison population he was still bombarded with containers of poo poo and piss when he walked through common areas. In our prison, that's called "gassing"(why, I don't know) and it's a serious offense - you'll get more time for gassing another prisoner, and the DA will prosecute for assault if you gas a CO or free staff.
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Hey op, sorry if it has been asked before, but this thread has more pages than the bible: Do you think that prison told you some kind of lesson about what you did, apart from "don't get caught next time"? You are probably not selling drugs anymore, is it because you have a genuine fear of being locked up again or for some other reasons? If you were to design a perfect prison system, that only cares about lowering reoffending rates, how would you do it? Is there some other kind of punishment besides prison that would have made you stop selling drugs?
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Sep 2, 2015 11:35
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waitwhatno posted:Hey op, sorry if it has been asked before, but this thread has more pages than the bible: Half a dozen accounts of "you dumb rear end, you should have done THIS" which are then either applicable in your life or not based on your decisions. Also, this thread has 41 pages.
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Sep 2, 2015 14:54
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One more page and we're 10% of the way to 420. Awwww yeah 
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Sep 2, 2015 23:04
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waitwhatno posted:Is there some other kind of punishment besides prison that would have made you stop selling drugs? I'm inclined to think that the OP would have stopped selling drugs if he received the death penalty.
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Sep 4, 2015 17:03
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Your inclination is wrong. Generally people do crimes based on their probability to be caught regardless of punishment.
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Sep 4, 2015 20:12
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Yeah it doesn't matter the punishment if you think you can get away with it
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Noctis Horrendae posted:I'm inclined to think that the OP would have stopped selling drugs if he received the death penalty. Its OK, I got the joke.
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Personally, I don't think jail/prison is enough of a deterrent to prevent drug dealing (maybe for the things desperate people do for their fix like assaults/robberies). I think governments need to look at the reason WHY people turn to drugs and focus on treatments rather than punishments. But I don't want to turn this thread into a drug debate.JnnyThndrs posted:In our prison, that's called "gassing"(why, I don't know) and it's a serious offense - you'll get more time for gassing another prisoner, and the DA will prosecute for assault if you gas a CO or free staff. "shitbombing" here, it's basically something inmates do only if they REALLY loving hate someone and don't give a gently caress about the consequences. It is a charge if you do it here as well and even if its a tiny splash into solitary confinement you go until the system works the incident through.
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Mr. Wookums posted:Your inclination is wrong. Generally people do crimes based on their probability to be caught regardless of punishment. No, I meant that if he were dead, he couldn't sell drugs.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:No, I meant that if he were dead, he couldn't sell drugs. He could sell to ghosts though. 
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Sep 6, 2015 15:16
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Amazing thread. I'm blown away that even conservatives are starting to talk about our bullshit prison system. For the recently released goon - man I'm sorry you feel so crappy. PTSD/agoraphobia/anxiety disorders are hellish. I hope you can get some help. Being scared of footsteps is no way to live, trust me.
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Sep 17, 2015 00:36
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Amazing thread! Rooting for ya, Valuum. Going through life on drugs isn't pretty, even if it doesn't kill you straight away, I know. If you feel like you could use some concrete tips or encouragement to quit for good, see us in the addiction/recovery thread!
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I know it's a bit of a necro, but I'm legit curious to know how the OP is doing (just read the whole thread over the course of a week or so). Hope everything is still cool and alright.
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Nov 3, 2015 06:56
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We all kinda assume the worst at this point.
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Nov 3, 2015 14:47
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Isn't he searchable by his MDOC number? I feel like that came up earlier in the thread.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:41
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I guess we won't know for sure unless he turns up again, but people like Valuum are tough as old leather. To drug criminals, there's no point in killing someone who'll turn up to be a customer another day, so unless he has overdosed I'm pretty certain he's okay.
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Nov 8, 2015 16:45
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I don't have first hand contact with the guy like some goons did, but I think it's more likely that he's back in jail. IIRC, he was using throughout his initial stay and he was still using when he was out and being drug tested randomly on probation.
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Dillbag posted:I don't have first hand contact with the guy like some goons did, but I think it's more likely that he's back in jail. IIRC, he was using throughout his initial stay and he was still using when he was out and being drug tested randomly on probation. Yeah very much doubt hes been killed, he kept saying hes using, he probably got caught
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Yeah very much doubt hes been killed, he kept saying hes using, he probably got caught Not to mention he was using his real name and goons doxx people for the prettiest reasons. That was really dumb.
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