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JacquelineDempsey posted:I'm the off-rails drawer beneath the range. There's actually a fair degree of rehab work for felons from what I understand. One guy in one of the best rehabs in Michigan did like 10 years in the joint for some violent poo poo. From what I understand they really look for -years- of AA/NA activity though beforehand, just long term sobriety might not be enough. I heard something about "Recovery Coaches", although I think I might have the name wrong (I know recovery coaches are a thing, I just think what I'm thinking of might be a different position). It didn't require degrees but rather certification. Also if you only have 1 felony you can probably get it expunged depending on your state. For all the poo poo I've been through I can actually get mine expunged. Thank you, by the way! I've been trying to stay off Facebook but I'll hit you up sometime. An brief update: So my GPS tether charger is magnetic like my macbook charger. I was laying on my mattress on the floor and the 2 hooked onto each other which shorted out my macbook power brick. The past 2 days have been miserable, me stuck in this room with only a phone. I got another charger yesterday but it was the wrong kind, had an adapter dropped off today so I'm good now. My girlfriend called the new county's parole office and asked about my situation. The guy I was assigned to says he can't promise anything about the transfer since my record is kind of bad. He said he'd get back with her today or tomorrow so lets hope that goes well. I'm going to have my mom call up to put her 2 cents in as well as maybe trying to call up myself. My girlfriend's aunt works at the courthouse so we've been trying to get a hold of her to talk to him. A friend of mine from Tri-Cap said he had the same PO and claimed he's actually really decent. He let my friend drop dirty for weed and only violated him after like 10+ dirties for heroin and coke. Not that I plan on using, but it at least shows they are a lot more laid back than my current county. Found a bottle of 50mg tramadols in the kitchen pantry. My mom suggested I take pictures or show them to my parole officers supervisor. I ended up flushing them because I really don't trust the system. There's no way they're actually going to give a gently caress about putting me in a lovely/dangerous situation, nor will they reprimand my PO or make any move to transfer me. Worst case scenario try to say they were mine. That or they boat up the last guy who lived here.
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I'm still FB friends with you and have PMs if you want to talk. I was worried about you, son. 
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Reading about Mr B; I agree there is always a couple assholes in any correctional-type setting and not to stereotype or be offensive or anything it's usually ex-military guys who never switched off and see the world as a dick measuring contest. They are usually hated by everyone they served with as well. They will do everything from telling seriously mentally ill people to "man up" (I loving hate that poo poo) to flipping out at the slightest sleight from inmates (jail/prisons suck, inmates need to vent it's not personal) to unique interpretations of rules that no other shift does. What I'm trying to get at is people like Mr B are hated by their co-workers and you did best by just dealing with them because that's the nature of corrections: it attracts assholes.
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Justin Godscock posted:Reading about Mr B; I agree there is always a couple assholes in any correctional-type setting and not to stereotype or be offensive or anything it's usually ex-military guys who never switched off and see the world as a dick measuring contest. They are usually hated by everyone they served with as well. They will do everything from telling seriously mentally ill people to "man up" (I loving hate that poo poo) to flipping out at the slightest sleight from inmates (jail/prisons suck, inmates need to vent it's not personal) to unique interpretations of rules that no other shift does. Oh, man, his co workers hated him too. He actually told on another RA for letting 2 guys volunteering to clean the hallways smoke outside (supervised) after 8pm. Something Mr. B himself had actually done a few weeks prior. There was another RA who was really laid back, didn't give much of a gently caress about the job, who had started a group chat. Mr. B asked why he didn't know about the group chat, to which he replied "Because we don't like you". One interchange between Mr. B and me Mr B: *Talking about fighting in the war* Someone else: During what stage of the war where you in Afghanistan? Mr B: I didn't fight in Afghanistan. Me: Vietnam? You would not imagine how upset he got about that. Another time someone was asking what a water buffalo was and Mr. B explained it was any device used to hold water. I chimed in that Buffalo Soldiers were named so because they were the dudes that carried water around the battle. He got equally as upset. Ended up calling my (hopefully) soon to be PO after I posted that other stuff. It went pretty well, he wasn't too thrilled to be hearing from me at first but actually seemed pretty cool after that. Asked me a lot of questions and didn't seem to want to outright deny me. The fact he talked to me so much boded well I think. He's going to try to go out to check the house and see that it's suitable. I don't see why it wouldn't be, it's not an expensive house or anything but it's fairly clean and there's no alcohol or drugs around. It doesn't look like a drug users house or anything either. I have to imagine most people on parole are poor as gently caress so I doubt the low income thing will be too bad. I guess my old PO wrote a super lovely report on me. I think the new guy realizes that my record being bad is fairly relative. In Tuscola county it's bad, but in Bay County it's pretty tame. The fact I only have 1 felony, 2 dirty drops, etc is very minimal by bay county standards. edit: new PO is checking out the new house, praying hard at the moment. The Valuum fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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I'm out of the parole house! Tonight! Girlfriends house got approved! I feel like I won the lottery!
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Don't spend the winnings on heroin.
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Boiled Water posted:Don't spend the winnings on heroin. I figured this was relevant to talking about. I think one of my biggest obstacles I'm going to face is the actual predominance of heroin in Bay City, MI. Back when my addiction began I NEVER saw other white people at the dope spots in Saginaw. It gained popularity throughout the years but when I went to prison 3 years ago I only knew of 1 dealer doing $200 grams in Saginaw. Since I was 17 I started going to Detroit for $90-$100 grams. Since I've got out of prison Saginaw is now flooded with heroin for $130 a gram. I also see nothing but white people at the parking lots dealers use to meet. Most users are still from the neighboring Bay City. Saginaw is a ghetto but there is a large white township where heroin use has started to catch on. Bay City has such an epic heroin problem right now though it's insane. The new site recently talked about a "Heroin Epidemic" summit the police held. Everyone I was in Tri Cap with from Bay City was there for heroin. I've always been a pretty isolated user. I had a few people I used with from my area but mainly I just kept a girl who got high that I would hang out with. I'm lucky though I've never been in "The Scene" or had any desire to be. Also my Girlfriend doesn't hang out with any addicts. Nor if I did relapse would I bother buying some Bay City dopefiends middlemanned $20 packs. Also it turns out there was another guy in this parole house. I got here friday and he didn't come here except for a few minutes today. I figured he was locked up or on the run prior to this. Dude has some balls considering you can't be out of your residence past 10pm and the parole house is right by the parole office (not to mention it's the fuckin' parole house) so I imagine they check in here a lot. Packing now
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~this used to be my playground~
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Live the good life man. Don't get caught up in all that nonsense again.
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A Kpro posted:Live the good life man. Don't get caught up in all that nonsense again. A thousand times this. I could have lived a much happier previous decade if only I'd realized that "moderation" with respect to my drug abuse and alcoholism was loving impossible for me. Again, best wishes. Stay strong with strong people.
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The Valuum posted:I figured this was relevant to talking about. I think one of my biggest obstacles I'm going to face is the actual predominance of heroin in Bay City, MI. Your biggest obstacle is that you're addicted. Trust me, a lot of our guys in NA live in places with so much skag it cracks when you walk, and they stay clean. I'm really relieved you bounced back, I think I speak for most here when I say that I think - but I am pissed that you're dumb enough to mix cialis and street drugs, that's a real bloody low rider type mistake. Get clean, dude. You're lucky not to be dead come this far.
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The Valuum posted:I figured this was relevant to talking about. I think one of my biggest obstacles I'm going to face is the actual predominance of heroin in Bay City, MI. Back when my addiction began I NEVER saw other white people at the dope spots in Saginaw. It gained popularity throughout the years but when I went to prison 3 years ago I only knew of 1 dealer doing $200 grams in Saginaw. Since I was 17 I started going to Detroit for $90-$100 grams. I had an angry post but I've just backspaced it. Good luck pal. Your thread was a great read, and I'm praying for you.
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Took me almost 2 weeks to finish this thread, but I finally made it through the whole thing. Thank you Valuum for sharing, learned lots. Tons of information in there. It's always interesting how humans can thrive in terrible situations like prison. Prison ingenuity is fascinating. I especially like the stories of guys on the inside that can make more money than on the outside. Capitalism at it's best. If a person makes a few thousand dollars inside prison, how do they get that wealth transferred outside of prison? ... As a former county official in Michigan I have some experience with jails and mental health. I was elected to serve as a county commissioner where it was our job to approve all budgets and set some basic policy for the county. Our jail was always of interest to me and I fought hard to increase mental health services to inmates. While serving as commissioner I also sat on the mental health board for our 5 county region. It can be difficult to effect change in our system because bureaucrats are extremely skilled at snowballing boards and commissions. So many people who serve on elected and appointed boards are there for the prestige, but they fear change and hard work. Skilled bureaucrats know this, so whenever a change is suggested they will point out all the work and risk that may happen. No official wants to be the guy in the newspaper who tried to change something and it bombed out costing tax payer dollars. But, I digress... Some information about jails... Commissary prices are high, everybody knows it. Our jail administrator was good at explaining this by pointing out that the jail is not a store. It lacks the institutional efficiency of a retail business because it has a fixed number of potential customers. Therefore, the margins must be bigger to accommodate this. Second, by law no commissary profits can be used to run the jail. Any profits made by the commissary must go into what is called an 'enterprise fund' which means it can only be used for a spelled out purpose. In this case, those profits must be used for things that improve the life of inmates, such as cable TV etc. Please understand, I'm not agreeing with these reasons to gouge inmates. This is the stuff fed to boards to justify the practice. I also noticed a large shift happening with technological ways to imprison someone outside of jail, such as your GPS tether. Jails are not being built in proportion to the jail population growth. Instead we are seeing judges sentence house arrest arrangements and rehab/10-step type programs. County jails are a big expense and they'd rather have people buying their own meals & medical etc when possible. We also have a prison in our area and one of our commissioners was assigned to liaison with the warden. Basically, they met for coffee once a month just so there was an established relationship in case some collaboration was needed between county and state corrections. I tried to get it that appointment but was beat out by a former cop who sat on the board. I did get a couple stories out of him that came from the prison... Someone had smuggled several boxes of pizza into the prison at one point. The CO's got tipped off and found several boxes of pizza literally berried in the dirt out in the yard. I cannot imagine it being edible after even a day being out there. Did you ever see any craziness like this? Another one was drugs being smuggled into the yard at night. It's a double fence with razor-wire at the top and TONS of lights. It's literally daytime 24 hours a day out at that prison. You can see the lights up into the sky for miles around because the prison is far away from the city. It turns out the drugs were being glued inside tennis balls and thrown over the fence from someone on the outside. They never caught who was doing it, but they eventually caught up with the balls appearing in the yard. I thought it was an ingenues method of delivery, you could even build a potato gun and shoot them from a moving car passing the jail if you worked the physics out, nearly impossible to get caught. I also learned a good deal about jail contracts. I could never pin down any direct bribery, but I did find that Aramark is very good at dropping donuts at the CO break rooms regularly and seeing that there was extra goodies at the holidays for administration. In return the jail administrator has ways of making sure that his favorite contractors get the bids. For example, he put an RFP (request for proposal) for our jail cafeteria and commissary programs that specified that no inmate labor could be used. Aramark was able to bid lower because after the selection process was complete he changed the policy so that inmate labor was used in food preparation. Anyone bidding against Aramark had to include regular labor for food prep and cleanup. Somehow Aramark knew they could bid lower prior to the whole process taking place. Merry Christmas Valuum, I pray for your success in staying out of trouble. maporfic fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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This thread has been a great read. How is life in the new apartment working out? Hope things are working out well for you!
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Fantastic thread. As a strictly TCC goon, i've seen lots of your posts there but never knew your story before i read this thread. This thread inspired me to write a letter to my friend who got locked up for 16 years a couple years ago. When i heard the news i kinda went into shock and knew i should get in touch but was basically too freaked out to acknowledge it. I let the time pass and haven't written him before today. Thanks for sharing your story and giving some insight to what it's actually like in there. Best wishes on your recovery. I lost one of my best friends to heroin this year so i understand it's not as simple as "hey stop doing drugs because they'll ruin your life or kill you". I guess the only advice i'll give is to reach out to the positive friends/family/whatever that you have and stay in contact with them. Most people have a larger and stronger support network than they realize.
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I would like to request another story involving the guy that called everybody "dick sucka".
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Late to the party, but I read the whole goddamn thread. Best of luck to you staying sober and staying engaged with life away from drugs. Girl sounds like a keeper, be good to her.
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I think it's healthy for this thread to be resurrected every few months. Its a great read
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Ernie Luckman posted:This thread inspired me to write a letter to my friend who got locked up for 16 years a couple years ago. When i heard the news i kinda went into shock and knew i should get in touch but was basically too freaked out to acknowledge it. Funny, I basically did the reverse of that. Got locked up (for like a month and a half) and once I was out I just dropped contact with everyone who wasn't family due to shame. Moved back home recently and I've been running into people I went to school with. A few of them thought I was dead.
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The Valuum posted:I figured this was relevant to talking about. I think one of my biggest obstacles I'm going to face is the actual predominance of heroin in Bay City, MI. Back when my addiction began I NEVER saw other white people at the dope spots in Saginaw. It gained popularity throughout the years but when I went to prison 3 years ago I only knew of 1 dealer doing $200 grams in Saginaw. Since I was 17 I started going to Detroit for $90-$100 grams. Opioids can really gently caress you up especially in the medical field where I work. I recommend staying away from them unless you absolutely need them for pain. So many doctors are hesitant to prescribe stuff to my patients in the hospital because they see a history of drug abuse. But working in the medical field, you do get a good look at how powerful addiction can be. But you seem to have a good thing going with your current girlfriend right now. I hope everything works out for you. In any case, my county jail story is that I remember being cellmates with one guy, and he was literally plunging water out of the toilet so he could speak to the female inmates though the pipes. I never really heard anything, but I never really put my head that close to the toilet.
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Has anyone heard from our illustrious OP, The Valuum? I'd like to think he's ridden off into the glorious drug-free sunset.
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tehinternet posted:Has anyone heard from our illustrious OP, The Valuum? I'd like to think he's ridden off into the glorious drug-free sunset. Check under "post history"
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syscall girl posted:Check under "post history" 
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Can you elaborate? Phone posting and histories are a bitch in awful app
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His last post was on July 12 and reads:The Valuum posted:I felt like poo poo this morning until I went into the bathroom at my workplace and injected 1mg of suboxone (like $2 worth of drugs), then I felt fairly good for an hour or so, then just normal.
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I don't think he's ever going to kick it until he....well, kicks it.
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syscall girl posted:Check under "post history" Goddammit.
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OK, I checked 'Valuum's' post history and he last posted in July of 2016, last month. So he's still with us on Earth, but much less so on the forum and on this thread. This thread is/was one of my favorites. Hope to see you here again, Valuum.
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