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Things I like about this show: - The police are not incompetent, and several times they've beaten Sherlock to a location or conclusion. - Sherlock pulls his "oh noooo no one understands me, I am forever to a genius jerk" drivel and it always goes south, Joan doesn't take that poo poo - Clyde - The way they've developed Moriarty is really nice and thorough, especially given her specific interest in Joan. - Detective Bell is a well-realized character whose issues with Sherlock are totally legitimate. - Captain Gregson is a well-realized character whose issues with Sherlock are totally legitimate. - No "magic logic". Sherlock has to research things. - Bees - Deliberately avoids certain cheap, cliche moments like envelopes into the fire or dangerous pizza delivery man - JLM is an exceptionally talented actor and though the others are good, he simply excels. - Joan has friends who are skeptical of her deciding to go from surgeon to detective, not portrayed as evil. Things I don't like: - Mycroft is gross go away mycroft
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Oct 29, 2014 21:08
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Scorchy posted:I wasn't quite into season 2 because of all the drama, but I rewatched season 1 recently and still think it's great. I think the writers watch a lot of other formulaic procedurals and just enjoy loving with people's expectations as to what to expect in a mystery show. Like that pizza delivery scene. And that actor who show up early on with 2 lines of dialogue is absolutely not guaranteed to be the culprit at the end, he usually just never appears again. I also liked the guy who wouldn't give a DNA sample because it was a violation of his civil rights was completely innocent.  And in "The Red Team" how the conspiracy nut was just murdered by a friend (as discovered by the police without Sherlock's assistance), it just informed them of another set of murders. And in the bitey serial killer one how the guy who ran from the police only did so because he got freaked out. Pick fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Oct 30, 2014 01:51
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There was also "I was taking blackmail photos of my neighbor and his mistress"  .By the way, here's the Polish translation for that episode. quote:Note that the actress doesn’t sound Polish and the Polish she uses is kind of butchered - my bet is that she’s a child or a grandchild of Polish emigrants and English is her first language. Some phrases she uses don’t exist in Polish, or sound kind of awkward. Pick fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Oct 30, 2014 02:59
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I thought the Season 1 two-parter was excellent, and needed two episodes' worth of time. Otherwise, I tend to be skeptical because you end up with a TV episode the length of a movie, and I don't know. Different rules apply.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:28
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Regy Rusty posted:Yeah I loved the Moriarty stuff from season 1! I don't mind if they keep bringing her back. The Mycroft MI6 stuff just wasn't interesting in any way and I've already forgotten most of the specifics of what happened. French people.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:49
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I was rolling my eyes until they actually fit in where you'd get such an electromagnet. There are still some issues but yes, it's hard to get one of those.
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Oct 31, 2014 04:42
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Scorchy posted:
Yeah, I think it's a byproduct of keeping things so novel that supposedly only a great detective would figure it out. It still has nothing on the stupider canon Holmes stories (Speckled Baaaand  ).
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Oct 31, 2014 15:56
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hollylolly posted:I do appreciate that they showed us Clyde in the first five minutes or so. The roosters probably got I still imagine a bunch of writers sitting around, staring into their beers. The work they poured into the plot of "The Red Team"! The research, the planning! And it was the person who was like, "I don't know, they can find a listening device in... a... turtle house" whose work became merchandise.
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Oct 31, 2014 16:37
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For two seasons worth of content, I think they've done a good job of not overexposing her. Though they've discussed Moriarty from time to time, she's only in four episodes so far (and for less than a minute in one of them). Mycroft was in more than that and he sucks.
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Nov 2, 2014 21:13
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Bruceski posted:Just once I'd like an early-episode confession to be legit, and they spend the last 40 minutes of the show watching TV. The obligatory onsen episode. e: That happened in The Red Team, actually. The guy who killed the conspiracy nut was being truthful, it just informed Holmes of another largely unrelated series of murders.
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Nov 7, 2014 07:25
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Yeah, this one was really well put-together, I was wondering the entire time how the GHB thing would fit in, and it was pretty slick.
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Nov 8, 2014 00:28
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Solid episode aside from really obvious villain. Like last week, an excellent motive, but not as well foreshadowed.
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Nov 14, 2014 04:17
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Annakie posted:Sherlock saving Bell's life was a nice touch, too. I like how it wasn't immediate. It was like "Oh, huh." (Seconds pass.) *BOOM* I also love how they've established that one of Sherlock's strengths is knowing how to get information, not just having all of it already in his brain. Good research practices. Anyway, relevant @Elementarystaff tweets: quote:The motive of the villain is based on real cases. I won’t spoil it, but this is a real way to make a ton of money with math. Pick fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 06:34
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Blind Pineapple posted:I also really like Kitty, but I can't shake the feeling that she's working for Moriarty. Just speculation, but why else would some cute girl with no background show up during a weak moment for Sherlock and quickly assimilate into a position to easily keep tabs on Holmes and Watson? Also, Sherlock's "I need an understudy" attitude sounds like something Moriarty would exploit, and Kitty almost appears to be going out of her way to make herself look less smart than Holmes and Watson (but just smart enough to justify Sherlock keeping her around). I really feel like this show doesn't want to fridge her, and with her backstory it would be unusually sinister for a show that ultimately is pulling for kindness. But that means they have to do something with her, they can't keep relying on "funny circumstances are allowing Holmes and Watson to work together this time!"
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Nov 14, 2014 17:33
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The staff Twitter said she was there to support Kitty, which doesn't put it out but means that's not the reason she was there.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:44
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Yeah, it's clear that Sherlock is a little different than when he left, even. He has seemed a little harsher without Joan. I liked the scene with math guy breaking down because it was a clear example of how Sherlock's endgame-oriented attitude hurts other people. Though math guy is sort of a "sadsack" character, he's clearly in the right. After all, why can't he ask Sherlock for advice, that's literally what he's been doing for Sherlock regarding mathematics.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:54
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The thing I find difficult is trying to reconcile what we know of Kitty and Holmes' observation that she shouldn't approve of a murderer who gets off the hook because of incorrectly ascribed motivations. To me, this kind of implies her situation involved three people. Why three? It wouldn't make sense if the referenced murderer were Kitty (she would approve of being let off then). It wouldn't make sense if there were only Kitty and her abductor, because he didn't kill her (obviously). It could be that her abductor killed someone in such a way that he got away with murder and what he did to her. Then there's three people, including the guy he killed. It could be that a murderer killed her abductor, and then claimed it was for Kitty's sake when Kitty knows that is not true. (Maybe one criminal kills another and then claims he did it to save her, having previously known and not cared about Kitty's condition.) Thoughts?
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Nov 15, 2014 00:30
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I was actually expecting it would be the other researcher, but as a PR stunt to get more attention or credibility for the project. This was actually pretty interesting.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:27
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Weird it didn't have a "to be continued" or something despite it being something that needs to be followed up on. Wouldn't be shocked if the prof is the S3 major antagonist though. They've been good about shaking it up.
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Nov 21, 2014 18:31
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They do genuinely try to use real-world events and persons as inspiration, I admire that about their writing staff. That said, they really hosed up how bees work. Elementary writing staff, PLEASE contact me if you're going to talk about bees in the future.
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Nov 24, 2014 05:00
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Yeah, it was important to have a Kitty episode. However, I also agree that JLM is so exceptionally talented that it's almost a waste to ever have him offscreen.
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Nov 29, 2014 08:21
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This one was pretty cute in terms of character plot stuff, but ultimately the core crime was kind of daft. Why not just ask to see the map, that you own, and quickly scratch out the tiny part of it with sandpaper or something? They can't really charge you with damaging something you own, even if it is on permanent loan. Even if they wanted to, I doubt they'd risk angering a donor, and even if they did, the crime would only be property damage and not super murder. I'm wondering what Kitty's fate will be, though. I think there's too much pressure to resume Holmes/Watson as the primary dynamic. I think she might last the season though, maybe go back to Scotland Yard or something. Pick fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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Dec 5, 2014 04:02
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Same, she didn't really sell it well. Smug is right.
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Dec 5, 2014 05:11
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Yea her plan was pretty dumb and overly complicated. Well, it introduced a huge number of risks for no good reason. (Casino metaphor? :iamafag:)
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Dec 5, 2014 05:16
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Ah, right. That makes sense. Though it still feels there were probably less convoluted ways to do it, and it seems like a leap that an olde tymey map would be seen as sufficiently credible. Has that ever happened?
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Dec 5, 2014 17:49
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inklesspen posted:Well, the logic was that the specific territory kept by the Indian nation was based on that original map (referenced in the treaty) I do remember that, but even that is a bit of a leap. We've done kind of bonkers things in the past (Northwest angle) though so I was wondering if there was precedent.
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Dec 5, 2014 17:56
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Bruceski posted:Since the border of the territory was set at the river as defined by that map, yes. Even back then they knew that rivers change, so it's good to have a reference that doesn't. I'm asking if we've ever done that, that was explicitly my question. In fact, the case of the Northwest angle is one where new borders were formed because old maps upon which the treaty was based were not applicable. Pick fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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Dec 5, 2014 21:37
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Nothing wrong with tonight but kind of by-the-book.
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Dec 12, 2014 04:31
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The problem is that we suspect Kitty is temporary, so while I like her as a character I always feel a "when's the ball going to drop?" vibe from her.
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Dec 12, 2014 07:19
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I actually think that Kitty might realize that real-world things like therapy are more helpful than trying to become an apprentice wizard, and she returns to her life, and then we have to reflect on how Holmes and Watson are both crazier than someone the rest of the world considers "broken".
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Dec 12, 2014 12:18
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The show's done a great job staying grounded this season.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:21
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Biomute posted:I get that the bad guy was a gun runner, but still, why the gently caress would you raid a place guarded by armed policemen? I don't care if it was lightly staffed, that's still a ton of risk compared to robbing somewhere without heavily armed cops already at the scene. Police get really good guns.
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Dec 22, 2014 20:24
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It's one of the rare shows where references to the "real world" don't seem pandering, they seem grounding. Tumblr exists and it's not inconceivable that someone would create such a blog.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:16
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I do sort of think they'd benefit from moving away from always-murder. Has there been a non-murder episode this season?
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Jan 15, 2015 18:54
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I smell another interesting moral conundrum coming up. Yessss.
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Jan 16, 2015 05:14
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It's just inherent to the show format. Maybe they could make it a little more natural, but stuff has to be communicated to viewers somehow.
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Jan 16, 2015 17:06
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Yeah, the twist is really that it didn't have poo poo to do with any of that stuff.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:56
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Still Fluxing posted:My first thought was that KITTY had murdered someone and that was why Gregson wanted Sherlock to come alone. Then I realized I was an idiot. You're why Watson has to sell us stuff we're seeing <  >
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Man, the actress for Kitty really blows it out of the water. Thank goodness she's gotten some real airtime.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:39
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