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Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012
Does anyone have an event to send troops to the AUS, or do they start with a manpower advantage?

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TheMcD
May 4, 2013

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Kellsterik posted:

Does anyone have an event to send troops to the AUS, or do they start with a manpower advantage?

Here's the volunteer situation as far as I can tell:

CSA: Syndie France, Britain, Mexico, South Italy
USA: Canada, Nationalist France
AUS: North Italy, Cuba, Germany, South Italy (in the form of Mafia men just leaving)
PSA: Japan

Russia can support everybody bar the PSA depending on their situation.

The manpower situation for the AUS is pretty dire - you basically need to start with Kuhn, give him his youth organization, allow colored units and so on, take every single manpower event you can get if you want to have a chance. Also, you want to abandon New Orleans in the short term to trigger the "desperation draft" for some extra firepower.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Centroamerica can help us as well but usually later on.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Eleven: To Boston Via The Hudson River Line (Late July 1940)

National Public Radio StoryCorps "The Wars" Project: Recording #341

<START RECORDING>

Is this thing working?

Yes, you've got it.

Okay, where do we start?

Well, tell us who you are and how you ended up in the Red Army.

Alright, my name is Theodore Kowalski. Most people call me Teddy. I'm a retired aeronautic engineer from Newark, New Jersey. I grew up in Newark, my father came to America from Poland in 1920, joined up with the IWW as a skilled mechanic and was part of the syndicalization of the Newark bus system after the Wobblies got their mayor in office. My mom was second-generation from Italy and a schoolteacher but she was very ill from about 1935 on. I was thirteen when the civil war started and my old man went off with the first wave of militias. He was killed in West Virginia. The Syndicate Guards was such a shitshow back then. Wait, can I curse?

Yeah, you're fine.

Alright, well anyway, the Guards were so ad hoc that we didn't know about it for two months. My mom passed with a broken heart a few weeks after we got the news, leaving me an orphan at thirteen. At that point, the bus syndicate became my family and I spent a few years finding my way around the bus engines and trying to carry my weight. When the Red Army put up a notice that they were looking for mechanics to enlist, I decided to lie about my age and sign up at sixteen in I think it was March of 1940. That about covers it. What else do you need?

Well, what kind of story would you like to tell?

Hmm... I really don't feel like going over all the tragic stuff again. There was a lot of levity in the midst of all the fighting. How about the story of how I met my good friend Ella Stewart?

The fighter ace?

The one and only. Will that work?

That'd be perfect, actually.

Alright, good. Where should I start this?



Wherever you want.

Alright well, I was attached to a motorized infantry division that was part of the quick push up the Hudson River from New Jersey. We made very quick progress, while the other motorized army coming out of the Bronx got bogged down in Connecticut.




We were lucky enough to get up to Albany in only a few days. Our orders were to move north as rapidly as we could and to leave the other army to try and bust through to Hartford.



That speed was enabled by the Mexicans covering our flanks in the Finger Lakes area.





I'm getting way off topic here, the story is actually about Boston. The other army did eventually break through after heavy casualties and began their attack on Boston. We were to wheel around the north side and support them from the direction of New Hampshire if they needed it.





Any fighting is miserable but we had had the easiest time of it compared to the boys trying to capture Buffalo.

Anyway, let me get to the point and skip ahead to when we pulled into Boston. The Battle of Boston was a big victory for us and after those fights, we were allowed three days of rest in Boston. Most of the boys did their best to drink the town dry and chase all the women away, but a number of us ended up camping out in Fenway Park on a beautiful summer day, I think just because we craved normalcy.

I had two guys who I spent most of my time with during the advance, one was an older guy from Brooklyn by the name of Sal. Your typical New York Italian guy, except more miserable than usual. He had no use for anybody and told me once that he enlisted to see if he could get himself killed. He had a soft spot for me though because he grew up an orphan but everybody else was like dogshit in his eyes.

The other guy I didn't like nearly as much, but I'll try not to bash him too much since he got himself killed only a few weeks after this story. His name was Billy O'Brien and he had been a refugee from Boston, so he spent the whole advance making things up about how he was the King of Boston. He was the only guy younger than me in the unit so he sort of attached himself to me because everybody else had told him to get lost. Besides us from our unit, there's maybe a thousand Red Army guys hanging out at Fenway, sitting in the stands, playing cards, playing music, swapping stories of the civil war and the current war, goofing around with the PA, and even some guys out on the field playing ball. The stadium had been deserted by its owners and the Red Sox hadn't played there for about a year so we made ourselves at home, hanging up flags all over the place and rummaging through the locker rooms looking for souvenirs.

Now, the units mingled a lot that day and it seemed like people gravitated to the handful of pilots that were enjoying their time off, I think because we respected the pilots who saved our asses so many times. The three of us ended up sitting next to a pilot by the name of Henry, who I believe was an ace as well, along with a black fellow whose name I can't recall. Billy tried his best to impress Henry, to the point of making poo poo up.



He claimed that New Hampshire had been a knock down drag it out fight all the way from Mount Washington to Concord, which was a complete lie, there had really been nobody in the whole state.



I really got embarrassed when he claimed that we moved directly from Concord to Syracuse. I think Billy was a good kid deep down but he was also an enormous idiot, I don't think he had any idea where Syracuse actually was. They don't let morons fly planes so Henry can tell that Billy is full of poo poo.

Anyway, getting to the point again. I was trying to watch the makeshift game going on and ignore Billy making a fool of himself when this woman with a sack over her shoulder comes walking up the aisle. She had those aviator sunglasses on and a leather jacket covered with all the campaign patches from the civil war and Mexican war. She has her hair down instead of pinned up like in most of the pictures you see of her and everybody sitting there can't help but notice this bombshell approaching us. It takes me a second to recognize her face from the Red Army Register. They had featured Ella Stewart in a recent issue as the first female ace in the Revolutionary Air Guards. The whole Red Army was enamored with her after they published that. The commissars I think left out the fact that she was a lesbian whose wingmate was her partner just to get everybody riled up. It didn't take long for the information about her true romantic situation to spread, which of course didn't prevent every mouth breathing animal from taking their shot at her anyway.

Henry called her over and boasted that he had won the bet between them. They had bet each other a certain number of cigarettes over who would have more confirmed kills when we got to Boston and Henry edged her out by two kills, I believe. Ella dropped the sack of cigarettes in Henry's lap and told Billy to mind his business in that Scottish accent of hers when he asked where she got them.



Billy could barely read so he never bothered reading the Register. So he had no clue who Ella was, and didn't make the connection with the discussion about her orientation that had gone around a week after that issue came out. So he decides he's gonna get in her pants by telling even more tall tales. He claims that he killed five guys by himself while capturing Providence, even though we were dealing with a Canadian counterattack a few hundred miles north of Providence and in fact had not ever been close to Rhode Island.

Ella's eyebrows actually arched above her sunglasses when he told her this story. Henry tried to salvage the conversation by offering everybody a pack of cigarettes but Ella couldn't take it and left to find that French girl that she was with.

Adrienne Duclair?

Yep, that's the one. Sal rolled up his newspaper and wacked Billy on the back of his head and scolded him for, his words, scaring off the only good looking thing he'd seen in a month.

At this point, Billy starts to boast that he's going to melt her heart which sends Henry and the black fellow into a fit of laughter.

He says to him: "You know she's a lesbian, right?"

Billy starts to say something like he knows a way to 'fix' that with a poo poo-eating grin on his face, which wipes the smile from Henry's face.

Henry grabs him by the collar and he says to him: "You can finish that sentence or keep your teeth."

Billy didn't have poo poo to say after that. I think that Ella must have saved Henry's rear end at some point, because Henry clearly had a tremendous amount of respect for her. After a bit, everybody except Sal and I got up and left. Ella came back over when Billy had gone and I had a very nice talk with her, explaining how baseball works while she talked about why she decided to leave Scotland to join up with us. After that, it was just a pleasant day in the midst of so many horrible things. That day stuck with me not just because of how striking Ella was as a person but also because I had never seen anybody get upset and call out homophobia before. We're talking about 1940 here, even though it had been commented on by some of the leading syndicalists, it was still very much a taboo topic among the regular people. But after I met her, I never disparaged a gay person for being gay and tried my best to advocate for them whenever the topic came up. Henry and I were about fifteen years ahead of the curve on that one, but I think everybody who served with the handful of out people back then learned the same things we did, even if the mass consciousness still wanted to pretend they didn't exist.




Anyway, our rest was up the next day and it was back to the grind of war, and we drove all the way up to Canada again to cut off and wipe out a pocket of New English troops in Vermont, not really an experience I want to relive. So I guess thats about it for that story.

You said you were good friends with Ella. Did you see her again after that?

Well, I actually didn't see her again for a few years after that, but I eventually managed to get my certification to fix airplanes and just happened to be assigned to be her mechanic in Sicily, which is when we really became closer. We still talk with the email and what not, she's a firecracker still running that flight school of hers. She keeps asking me to go over to Scotland and help her develop a new jet trainer but I'm enjoying my grandchildren and retirement too much to move anywhere. War friends are a special thing, because you can know somebody for years and not know them the same way that a war buddy knows somebody. The danger and horror brings out parts of us we never knew existed. When there's so many dead friends in my memory from the wars, it's pleasant to think about one that survived for once.

Thanks for the story.

No, thank you, it felt good to tell it. How do I turn this thing off?

<END RECORDING>

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Goddamn your narration of this LP is fantastic.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Yeah, that was a fun little story.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
I'm really happy that StoryCorps (and NPR!) still exist in the Combined Syndicates. :shobon:

Also glad that gay baseball communism continues its glorious advance across the LP landscape.

This was a really good update! And Boston's finally free! :unsmith:

Kulkasha
Jan 15, 2010

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Likchenpa.
That was cool.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

So the New English (?) Army is destroyed for the most part. Now you only have to fight a three front war.

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!
Yeah but he's got an enormous advantage in manpower and industry so I really doubt he'll have any issues even if something crazy like a Nat. French amphibious invasion of the eastern seaboard happens. Or if Cuba decides to take Florida.

Yes, I have seen both of those things happen, why do you ask? :v:

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Grizzwold posted:

Yeah but he's got an enormous advantage in manpower and industry so I really doubt he'll have any issues even if something crazy like a Nat. French amphibious invasion of the eastern seaboard happens. Or if Cuba decides to take Florida.

Yes, I have seen both of those things happen, why do you ask? :v:

On the other side I saw Canada defeat and annex CSA (California was in my neutral alliance) entirely by itself, I think after the Internationale sank all the Entente ships.
It was amazingly fast too. :canada:

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


The Internationale has a remarkably progressive attitude towards gays in a time period where they were often considered mentally ill. I understand lesbianism wasn't seen in the same light as male homosexuality, but it seems a little too modern.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Kavak posted:

The Internationale has a remarkably progressive attitude towards gays in a time period where they were often considered mentally ill. I understand lesbianism wasn't seen in the same light as male homosexuality, but it seems a little too modern.

Dunno about that. In reality the Soviet Union decriminalized homosexuality in 1917, so it's not that outlandish that the fictional socialist societies in Kaiserreich would do the same.


Also I have to say that the narration in this LP is pretty drat outstanding. Keep up the good work.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Cerebral Bore posted:

Dunno about that. In reality the Soviet Union decriminalized homosexuality in 1917, so it's not that outlandish that the fictional socialist societies in Kaiserreich would do the same.

Decriminalization doesn't translate into acceptance quickly (I think Lenin saw it as some kind of "bourgeoisie perversion" that would disappear as socialism advanced, anyway), and homosexuality was recriminalized under Stalin. If someone outed Alan Turing and the Union of Britain added homophobia to the "list of things capitalists use to divide workers" to protect his reputation, I can see it spreading the same way the anti-racism did.

The characterization and storytelling you're doing here is all great Chief, but I'm just curious about this aspect of the setting.

Skyfinder
Dec 28, 2012

Cerebral Bore posted:

Dunno about that. In reality the Soviet Union decriminalized homosexuality in 1917, so it's not that outlandish that the fictional socialist societies in Kaiserreich would do the same.


Also I have to say that the narration in this LP is pretty drat outstanding. Keep up the good work.

Yeah, but then in 1933 you had Article 121 added to the criminal code that prohibited male-on-male homosexuality, with the promise of prison labor if you were caught. In the end, Communism isn't more or less accepting of homosexuality than any other economic or government form. It all really just comes down to people. Whether or not you think the people who run the CSA in Kaiserreich would be accepting or not is up to your own discretion.

But yeah, great narration on the LP.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Skyfinder posted:

Yeah, but then in 1933 you had Article 121 added to the criminal code that prohibited male-on-male homosexuality, with the promise of prison labor if you were caught. In the end, Communism isn't more or less accepting of homosexuality than any other economic or government form. It all really just comes down to people. Whether or not you think the people who run the CSA in Kaiserreich would be accepting or not is up to your own discretion.

Sure, but Kaiserreich doesn't have Stalin to poo poo up the situation. And like most everything else that Stalin shat up, the criminalization of homosexuality actually got a lot of criticism from socialists outside the USSR.

The point I'm making here is mostly that historically socialists actually were ahead of the curve here, so why couldn't they be in Kaiserreich as well?

Kavak posted:

Decriminalization doesn't translate into acceptance quickly (I think Lenin saw it as some kind of "bourgeoisie perversion" that would disappear as socialism advanced, anyway), and homosexuality was recriminalized under Stalin. If someone outed Alan Turing and the Union of Britain added homophobia to the "list of things capitalists use to divide workers" to protect his reputation, I can see it spreading the same way the anti-racism did.

Sure, but it still stands as an example, regardless of the motivations involved. It's entirely possible that the Syndicalist leaders in Kaiserreich have the same general idea as Lenin, but that still makes the situation for gay people far better than anywhere else and makes a debate on the subject possible in the first place.

Skyfinder
Dec 28, 2012

Cerebral Bore posted:

Sure, but Kaiserreich doesn't have Stalin to poo poo up the situation. And like most everything else that Stalin shat up, the criminalization of homosexuality actually got a lot of criticism from socialists outside the USSR.

The point I'm making here is mostly that historically socialists actually were ahead of the curve here, so why couldn't they be in Kaiserreich as well?

Although, that law there, it stayed in place even well after Stalin's death, even when Stalin became persona non-grata. Even Khrushchev, who was liberal as all Hell compared to Stalin, didn't reverse it because he thought the gay sex going on in prison would spread to the general population, as if it were some kind of plague of rainbow locusts.

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong and, for the purposes of an LP, you can think anything of characters who are outside their IRL histories you want. I was just tossing in my own two cents.

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.
You guys should visit Rincewinds LP that is full of gays and women in leading positions of goverment, maybe argue about that as well

Rahmbo
Mar 19, 2008

Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.

-Vladimir Lenin

Skyfinder posted:

Although, that law there, it stayed in place even well after Stalin's death, even when Stalin became persona non-grata. Even Khrushchev, who was liberal as all Hell compared to Stalin, didn't reverse it because he thought the gay sex going on in prison would spread to the general population, as if it were some kind of plague of rainbow locusts.

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong and, for the purposes of an LP, you can think anything of characters who are outside their IRL histories you want. I was just tossing in my own two cents.

The 1950s were, in general, pretty drat reactionary on issues of sexuality compared with the interwar period worldwide, where you had a growing campaign for toleration of homosexuality in Germany as well as the legalisation in the Soviet Union. Leading figures in the SPD (though certainly not the whole party) had been campaigning against their anti-homosexuality laws since the 1890s. Emma Goldman, for her part as an American anarchist, was extremely vocal in not only her support for toleration, but for complete acceptance of homosexual and bisexual people. Imagining an interwar socialism which makes tentative but consistent moves towards gay liberation is not unbelievable, especially when socialists are more confident of their international success, generally less authoritarian, and less inwardly focussed on looking for enemies within their states.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Kavak posted:

Decriminalization doesn't translate into acceptance quickly (I think Lenin saw it as some kind of "bourgeoisie perversion" that would disappear as socialism advanced, anyway), and homosexuality was recriminalized under Stalin. If someone outed Alan Turing and the Union of Britain added homophobia to the "list of things capitalists use to divide workers" to protect his reputation, I can see it spreading the same way the anti-racism did.

The characterization and storytelling you're doing here is all great Chief, but I'm just curious about this aspect of the setting.

Well you'll note that outside of a few circles and the very top of the CSA government, the narration states that it mostly isn't accepted, and that people standing up for homosexuals in that time is pretty rare. The issue doesn't really become something society starts to deal with until "15 years later", or the mid-1950s.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Kavak posted:

The Internationale has a remarkably progressive attitude towards gays in a time period where they were often considered mentally ill. I understand lesbianism wasn't seen in the same light as male homosexuality, but it seems a little too modern.

This is the good timeline. As such, the people in it naturally make better choices.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Kavak posted:

Decriminalization doesn't translate into acceptance quickly (I think Lenin saw it as some kind of "bourgeoisie perversion" that would disappear as socialism advanced, anyway), and homosexuality was recriminalized under Stalin. If someone outed Alan Turing and the Union of Britain added homophobia to the "list of things capitalists use to divide workers" to protect his reputation, I can see it spreading the same way the anti-racism did.

The characterization and storytelling you're doing here is all great Chief, but I'm just curious about this aspect of the setting.

what no lenin's position was that caring about people's sexuality was the bourgeois affectation. his attitude was basically "who the gently caress cares", which, while not really progressive by today's standards, is miles ahead of the curve of his time

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


It's almost as if Chief Savage Man is trying to portray an ideologically-pure, semi-utopian socialist alternative from our current contextual viewpoint after the triumph of post-Cold War neoliberalism.

I'm not gonna fault him for that, it's a delight to read. Whether or not we think this is historically plausible is kindof a moot point to the narrative he is weaving. It's also worth noting that in the last post specifically, it was a "look back" interview conducted from a time many years after the war. We aren't sure when, but he mentions email, so it's at least around 1990. I don't think it's TERRIBLY hard to believe that in our syndicalist utopia, minority rights might be a decade or so farther along than they are now.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


paragon1 posted:

Well you'll note that outside of a few circles and the very top of the CSA government, the narration states that it mostly isn't accepted, and that people standing up for homosexuals in that time is pretty rare. The issue doesn't really become something society starts to deal with until "15 years later", or the mid-1950s.

Fatigue is/was causing me to misread things, it makes more sense now, thank you.

V. Illych L. posted:

what no lenin's position was that caring about people's sexuality was the bourgeois affectation. his attitude was basically "who the gently caress cares", which, while not really progressive by today's standards, is miles ahead of the curve of his time

I misremembered/misunderstood what his lack of concern was driven by, nevermind.

Rahmbo posted:

The 1950s were, in general, pretty drat reactionary on issues of sexuality compared with the interwar period worldwide, where you had a growing campaign for toleration of homosexuality in Germany as well as the legalisation in the Soviet Union. Leading figures in the SPD (though certainly not the whole party) had been campaigning against their anti-homosexuality laws since the 1890s. Emma Goldman, for her part as an American anarchist, was extremely vocal in not only her support for toleration, but for complete acceptance of homosexual and bisexual people. Imagining an interwar socialism which makes tentative but consistent moves towards gay liberation is not unbelievable, especially when socialists are more confident of their international success, generally less authoritarian, and less inwardly focussed on looking for enemies within their states.

A lot of that gay rights movement seems to have been spurred by the Roaring Twenties, but with the SPD undamaged by the Revolution and people like Goldman undeported or at least being given a steadier platform to speak from, I think it evens out. I apologize for causing this derail, but this has been very informative for me!

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Chief Savage Man posted:

Looks like you'll all need to stay tuned for Act Fourteen: Syndicalists... IN SPACE!

LP continues in Masters of Orion 2?

I also would like to add my voice to the chorus of "God drat this LP is beautifully written."

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Well, a few things, I don't think we would have black and white Modern Family instead of Leave It to Beaver, but as far as I remember, there is an option for Bayard Rustin to be 2nd in command for Foster I think. If there's the possibility for a gay man to be in that position then that says to me that there is a minority of people within the new establishment that are either gay or pro gay rights.
Also without the anti communist right wing backlash stemming from the Cold War, I think there wouldn't be nearly as much attendant cultural backlash and so maybe there's a big book published that kickstarts the gay consciousness and it wouldn't get blacklisted and banned. Plus we're talking about two guys, one of whom is basically still a kid, who come into contact with one individual that leaves an impression in the midst of enormous upheaval.

Why yes, I do have a lot of time to think about things, why do you ask?

Must Love Dogs
May 6, 2005

and the sky is filled with light can you see it?

I think you have a point there, especially when you consider that HUAC actually spent more time trying to hunt down and purge gay folks from the government than they did trying to hunt down Reds.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Must Love Dogs posted:

I think you have a point there, especially when you consider that HUAC actually spent more time trying to hunt down and purge gay folks from the government than they did trying to hunt down Reds.

Nobody talks about the lavender scare- I don't know why, it makes anyone still supporting McCarthy in this day and age look like the complete shithead they are.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Kavak posted:

Nobody talks about the lavender scare- I don't know why, it makes anyone still supporting McCarthy in this day and age look like the complete shithead they are.

People still support McCarthy? I thought we were at the point where the only two viewpoints are opposition and pretending he never existed.

rakovsky maybe
Nov 4, 2008

Chief Savage Man posted:

People still support McCarthy? I thought we were at the point where the only two viewpoints are opposition and pretending he never existed.

Ann Coulter has been a big defender of his but she is basically a professional troll who says things more for shock value than any other reason.

Skyfinder
Dec 28, 2012

Chief Savage Man posted:

People still support McCarthy? I thought we were at the point where the only two viewpoints are opposition and pretending he never existed.

Aside from people who're just looking to shock for attention, I don't think there are people who really support McCarthy. Even hard line, anti-Communist folks tend to think that McCarthy was a blowhard who sacrificed the integrity of government efforts to, you know, root out actual Soviet spies in the name of advancing his name in politics.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010
It isn't just Coulter, although she's the loudest. You could get any number of modern reactionaries or their audience members to go for that stance. I'd say that support for Joseph McCarthy among right wing pundits is earnest, but it's a cultural posture rather than a belief that he was correct or a good leader. That is, he was a pompous blowhard who abused leftists, and regardless of anything else that's something they'd support. The guy was pretty much Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly as a senator. There's also a general love among conservatives for historical revisionist arguments, which are presented seriously but are often clearly and deliberately spurious. Here I'm thinking of the argument that the Nazis were actually left wing, which is blatantly false but has a lot of currency among the same people we're talking about.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Chief Savage Man posted:

People still support McCarthy? I thought we were at the point where the only two viewpoints are opposition and pretending he never existed.

Come to the FReep thread, we have such sights to show you.

Usual Barb
Aug 27, 2005

pop it and lock it

Chief Savage Man posted:

People still support McCarthy? I thought we were at the point where the only two viewpoints are opposition and pretending he never existed.

Yup, it's loving tragic.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Zeroisanumber posted:

Come to the FReep thread, we have such sights to show you.

I had to abandon that thread a long time ago, it's just too much. I'll take my warm and fuzzy alternate reality instead.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Twelve: Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair (Mid July-Mid August 1940)

Disaster in California! - 1940, Propaganda/Newsreel
Produced by the Royal Ministry of Information, Sydney Office




A map of North America is displayed, a knife with the Internationale symbol on its hilt is thrust into Chicago, a dark cloud floods out up against the lightly shaded Entente territories.

It has been six weeks since the treacherous Reds launched a surprise attack on our valiant allies across North America! Our brave Pacifican allies are all that stand between the Red menace and the Pacific Ocean!



A map of the Southwest, a dark arrow plunges into Southern California from Phoenix.

The Pacific States are in a desperate battle for their freedom and their lives! The traitor General Marshall and his band of French anarchists are moving rapidly towards Los Angeles.



A picture of George Marshall shaking hands with Pancho Villa, followed by a picture of the ruins of Columbus, NM from 1916.

He works in tandem with the infamous Mexican bandit Pancho Villa, turning a blind eye to the crimes committed against his once fellow Americans. Is no unholy alliance too stained for the Reds?




A group of soldiers take cover behind sandbags and fire a machine gun.

The divided state of Arizona is once again a battlefield, as the brave Pacificans hold the north against the Reds in the south.



A church on fire, people running.

Our brothers in Empire, the Royal Canadian Army, stand side by side with the Pacific States, defending the good and righteous Mormon folk in Utah from the church-burners.



A shot of the Lake Mead Dam with military trucks driving over it.

The wily Pacifican forces are using the rugged territory of the Southwest to their advantage, holding the Colorado River against the enemy.




A Canadian-flagged ship steams into port, a crowd of civilians wave and cheer from the dockside.

Our Canadian brothers are putting as many men into the fight as they possibly can, for an injury to one democracy is an injury to us all!



A map of the Southwest, a white arrow extends inland from Los Angeles into the midst of the dark cloud to the east.

We wish them Godspeed as they do their utmost to relieve the brave men defending the eastern frontier.



Film of a turbaned sailor hard at work on a cruiser deck.

Even distant Delhi sends aid, sending their ships all the way from India. All democracies across the world must stand together!




A map of California, a dark arrow comes out of Mexico, arching out through the ocean before landing in the Bay Area.

The emergency is as great as it's ever been! Just this week, the dastardly Reds launched a surprise attack on San Francisco from the sea, putting them within striking distance of Sacramento and the Pacifican government.




Film of buildings ablaze, civilians running through the streets.

The savage Red Fleet then turned their mighty guns on the ships evacuating women and children from the Jewel of the American West, showing no quarter to the innocent.



As we speak, the Reds are raping and pillaging their way through the great city of San Francisco. The situation looks grim for our friends, but the fight goes on all across North America! Visit your nearest Royal Australian Army recruiter and enlist today! Help us defend Seattle so we won't have to defend Sydney!

Credits roll, God Save the King plays.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
We got 'em on the run boys! :clint:

Love the propaganda reel narration, I know pretty much exactly the voice you were emulating there. It's just this certain style you know?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Are you building any carriers? Although I guess there will not be a point with Japan turteling.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Funny thing, I'm working on an event chain right now where whoever controls the right provinces after the war builds the Hoover Dam- depending on the regime, the name could be Boulder, Kaufmann (The architect), Reed, Jedediah Smith, and MacArthur. The last one gives you dissent instead of dropping it :v:.

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TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Kavak posted:

The last one gives you dissent instead of dropping it :v:.

I guess it's the contrarian in me but all this anti-Warlord MacArthur makes me want to read an LP from his perspective.

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