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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Juvenalian.Satyr posted:

There is a long pattern of leftists turning towards fascism for one reason or another. Populism is a pretty sharp sword and it cuts both ways.

Racism is the usual road that they take.

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Gantolandon
Aug 19, 2012

Juvenalian.Satyr posted:

There is a long pattern of leftists turning towards fascism for one reason or another. Populism is a pretty sharp sword and it cuts both ways.

Not surprising, given that fascism was meant as a response to perceived inadequacies of both capitalism and socialism.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Lustful Man Hugs posted:

I dunno - things are looking a bit authoritarian for my liking. Maybe they'll improve with post-war decisions that show up, though.

You don't like authoritarian? What are you, some kind of social democrat?

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Lustful Man Hugs posted:

I dunno - things are looking a bit authoritarian for my liking. Maybe they'll improve with post-war decisions that show up, though.

It's probably worth mentioning that the Authoritarian slider is somewhat misleading in Kaiserreich, in that countries are democratic up until they're about three quarters of the way to Authoritarian. The CSA is probably still likely to have a significant democratic element, but the new system's present syndicalist setup and the hasty circumstances under which it was established is probably excluding former managers and the unemployed from suffrage, on the basis of lacking trade union membership and therefore not having voted for representatives to the continental chamber. Not an ideal democracy, no, but not a tyranny, at least not right now; there are events that will push things in one direction or another.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
The way I've imagined the CSA operating at this point is the Continental Chamber (the legislature of union/syndicate delegates) having sovereignty and granting temporary (in theory) war powers to the Central Committee that then acts as a central authority in the time of crisis. So I would imagine the danger there would be the Central Committee getting powerful enough that it can control the Chamber and marginalize or eliminate the union democracy aspect. The events in game allow you to push yourself towards Totalism so that is a possible path but I'd like to imagine the Chamber being strong enough to hold the Committee to account.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

Reveilled posted:

It's probably worth mentioning that the Authoritarian slider is somewhat misleading in Kaiserreich, in that countries are democratic up until they're about three quarters of the way to Authoritarian.

Isn't democracy vs. dictatorship based also on how extreme the left/right slider is as well? IIRC HoI2 puts everything on a ten point scale like this:

Stalinist - Leninist - Left-Wing Radical | Social Democrat - Social Liberal - Market Liberal - Social Conservative | Paternal Autocrat - Fascist - National Socialist

Where the middle four are the democratic ideologies and the extreme six are the dictatorships. There's a two-dimensional matrix that maps each pair Democratic/Authoritarian and Left/Right slider numbers to one of these ideologies. In Kaiserreich, the underlying model is the same, it's just that some of the ideologies have been renamed: Stalinist -> Totalist, Leninist -> Syndicalist, Left-Wing Radical -> Radical Socialist, and then something similar to the right-wing dictatorships. According to the game mechanics, right now Chief Savage Man's CSA is a dictatorship, and IIRC the only really important effect of that is that he can declare war on anyone whenever he likes.

As far as the "lore" is concerned though, I think the developers left the exact authoritarianess of Syndicalism and Radical Socialism pretty vague, so that things are less black-and-white than real life, while Totalism is definitely just Stalinism with a new name. On the right-wing side, I'm pretty sure there's nothing quite as "revolutionary", for lack of a better word, as real-life fascism in Kaiserreich, and the three positions on that end are just progressively more conservative and authoritarian versions of the middle ideologies. To use an example from this LP: MacArthur's government might go all the way to full authoritarian and right-wing, but he's not presenting some kind of special-snowflake ideology and screaming about lebensraum and all that bullshit, he's just heading up your run-of-the mill military dictatorship backed by the pre-existing elites.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

VostokProgram posted:

Isn't democracy vs. dictatorship based also on how extreme the left/right slider is as well? IIRC HoI2 puts everything on a ten point scale like this:

Stalinist - Leninist - Left-Wing Radical | Social Democrat - Social Liberal - Market Liberal - Social Conservative | Paternal Autocrat - Fascist - National Socialist

Where the middle four are the democratic ideologies and the extreme six are the dictatorships. There's a two-dimensional matrix that maps each pair Democratic/Authoritarian and Left/Right slider numbers to one of these ideologies. In Kaiserreich, the underlying model is the same, it's just that some of the ideologies have been renamed: Stalinist -> Totalist, Leninist -> Syndicalist, Left-Wing Radical -> Radical Socialist, and then something similar to the right-wing dictatorships. According to the game mechanics, right now Chief Savage Man's CSA is a dictatorship, and IIRC the only really important effect of that is that he can declare war on anyone whenever he likes.

As far as the "lore" is concerned though, I think the developers left the exact authoritarianess of Syndicalism and Radical Socialism pretty vague, so that things are less black-and-white than real life, while Totalism is definitely just Stalinism with a new name. On the right-wing side, I'm pretty sure there's nothing quite as "revolutionary", for lack of a better word, as real-life fascism in Kaiserreich, and the three positions on that end are just progressively more conservative and authoritarian versions of the middle ideologies. To use an example from this LP: MacArthur's government might go all the way to full authoritarian and right-wing, but he's not presenting some kind of special-snowflake ideology and screaming about lebensraum and all that bullshit, he's just heading up your run-of-the mill military dictatorship backed by the pre-existing elites.

What I mean by saying that you're not a dictatorship in Kaiserreich until you're three quarters of the way up the Authoritarian ladder is that while in vanilla HoI the middle four ideologies are democracies and the outer six are dictatorships, in Kaiserreich the renaming of the ideologies functionally mean that Totalism, Paternal Autocrat and National Populist are the dictatorships, while the other ideologies in the dictatorship category which have been renamed are democracies of some sort, even if they're not quite perfect.

Ultimately the democratic/authoritarian slider in Kaiserreich is very wooly in its representation of every system. If Syndicalism is somewhat ambiguous in being democratic, on the basis that it might be excluding non trade union members from having a vote, can we square that up with countries being listed as full liberal democracies while still denying suffrage to women, or minorities?

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
The system isn't designed to represent differences between parliamentary democracy and union democracy. Neither is necessarily more or less democratic than the other (and indeed some would argue that union democracy is more 'democratic'), but the mod bodges it as best it can be representing union democracy as more authoritarian, because it has to have the different ideologies at some point along the sliders. It doesn't necessarily mean anything in relation to the flavour/setting.

Also there are certainly fascists or fascist equivalents in Kaiserreich but they're not a major political force in most places - National Populist can mean military dictatorships or fascist regimes equally, depending on what's going on.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
The actual democratic process happens through events so the sliders only really matter for minister availability and being able to declare war. Being highly Democratic (and isolationist) means you can only declare war on highly belligerent nations, which fits social democracies better than syndicalist democracies in my opinion. Hopefully I'll get an update out today.

Also I'd like to start thinking about the first mini LP. It will be a Chinese state and now I'm divided between Qing, Shangqing and Mongolia. Qing has a lot of events but also can just be more or less handed China, which wouldn't be terribly interesting to read. Shangqing has a more war torn path to uniting China, with probably some hairy situations involved. Mongolia can be hilarious with the Empire and crusade events to start exploding across Central Asia and eventually coastal China. Could be interesting too.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011
I like the government form "Authoritarian Democratic" because it's pretty paradox considering the slider names.

Chief Savage Man posted:

The actual democratic process happens through events so the sliders only really matter for minister availability and being able to declare war. Being highly Democratic (and isolationist) means you can only declare war on highly belligerent nations, which fits social democracies better than syndicalist democracies in my opinion. Hopefully I'll get an update out today.

Also I'd like to start thinking about the first mini LP. It will be a Chinese state and now I'm divided between Qing, Shangqing and Mongolia. Qing has a lot of events but also can just be more or less handed China, which wouldn't be terribly interesting to read. Shangqing has a more war torn path to uniting China, with probably some hairy situations involved. Mongolia can be hilarious with the Empire and crusade events to start exploding across Central Asia and eventually coastal China. Could be interesting too.

Do Mongolia with only cav!

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

Putin apologist- assume all uncited claims are from Russia Today or directly from FSB.

key phrases: Poor plucky little Russia, Spheres of influence, The West is Worse, they was asking for it.
Acutally did an Ungern Sternburg world conquest attempt, got pretty far, but failed due to Huey Longs navy.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Mightypeon posted:

Acutally did an Ungern Sternburg world conquest attempt, got pretty far, but failed due to Huey Longs navy.

Really? I don't think the AI has ever been able to counter a 15 CV/15 DD fleet. I sunk Germany's entire fleet with two of those once.

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

Putin apologist- assume all uncited claims are from Russia Today or directly from FSB.

key phrases: Poor plucky little Russia, Spheres of influence, The West is Worse, they was asking for it.
Being well, Ungern Sternburg Great Khan of Mongolia, I kind of concentrated my research on stuff that let me kill everyone in Eurasia + Africa. Didnt do much naval research until I think 1944 or so.

I also found it utterly hilarious that Huey friggin Long prevented the world conquest of perhaps the most evil dude in Kaiserreich.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Ungern-Sternberg amazes me in that he's pretty much a real life pulp villain. A man so cartoonishly, moustache-twirlingly evil that he perpetrated the only known pogrom of jews in Mongolian history. In his Kaiserreich techteam portrait he sports a homemade uniform complete with medals he crafted - and awarded to - himself.

Pretty much the only dude in Kaiserreich's timeframe that could top Sternberg's over-the-top villainy would be Oskar Dirlewanger, but setting that aberration loose even in a world as dark as Kaiserreich's would likely be beyond the pale.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Mightypeon posted:

Being well, Ungern Sternburg Great Khan of Mongolia, I kind of concentrated my research on stuff that let me kill everyone in Eurasia + Africa. Didnt do much naval research until I think 1944 or so.

I also found it utterly hilarious that Huey friggin Long prevented the world conquest of perhaps the most evil dude in Kaiserreich.

That's still 10 years to build a fleet and invade :v:

Gantolandon
Aug 19, 2012

VostokProgram posted:

Isn't democracy vs. dictatorship based also on how extreme the left/right slider is as well? IIRC HoI2 puts everything on a ten point scale like this:

Stalinist - Leninist - Left-Wing Radical | Social Democrat - Social Liberal - Market Liberal - Social Conservative | Paternal Autocrat - Fascist - National Socialist

Where the middle four are the democratic ideologies and the extreme six are the dictatorships. There's a two-dimensional matrix that maps each pair Democratic/Authoritarian and Left/Right slider numbers to one of these ideologies. In Kaiserreich, the underlying model is the same, it's just that some of the ideologies have been renamed: Stalinist -> Totalist, Leninist -> Syndicalist, Left-Wing Radical -> Radical Socialist, and then something similar to the right-wing dictatorships. According to the game mechanics, right now Chief Savage Man's CSA is a dictatorship, and IIRC the only really important effect of that is that he can declare war on anyone whenever he likes.

As far as the "lore" is concerned though, I think the developers left the exact authoritarianess of Syndicalism and Radical Socialism pretty vague, so that things are less black-and-white than real life, while Totalism is definitely just Stalinism with a new name. On the right-wing side, I'm pretty sure there's nothing quite as "revolutionary", for lack of a better word, as real-life fascism in Kaiserreich, and the three positions on that end are just progressively more conservative and authoritarian versions of the middle ideologies. To use an example from this LP: MacArthur's government might go all the way to full authoritarian and right-wing, but he's not presenting some kind of special-snowflake ideology and screaming about lebensraum and all that bullshit, he's just heading up your run-of-the mill military dictatorship backed by the pre-existing elites.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Authoritarianism/Democracy axis only defines political plurality - as in, how much chance parties with non-compatible ideologies stand in elections. In this sense, Syndicalist nations are authoritarian, because even if there are elections, they can only result with a compatible government. It's visible in events - during TUC elections, for example, the Union of Britain can stay Syndicalist or became Radical Socialist or Totalist, but it can't elect a conservative government. Manwhile, many democracies in KR absolutely can elect Syndicalist or National Populist governments.

The axis Open Society/Closed Society is the one that reflects the general responsiveness to the needs of its citizens and general freedom.

beefart
Jul 5, 2007

IT'S ON THE HOUSE OF AMON
~grandmaaaaaaa~

TomViolence posted:

Ungern-Sternberg amazes me in that he's pretty much a real life pulp villain. A man so cartoonishly, moustache-twirlingly evil that he perpetrated the only known pogrom of jews in Mongolian history. In his Kaiserreich techteam portrait he sports a homemade uniform complete with medals he crafted - and awarded to - himself.

Pretty much the only dude in Kaiserreich's timeframe that could top Sternberg's over-the-top villainy would be Oskar Dirlewanger, but setting that aberration loose even in a world as dark as Kaiserreich's would likely be beyond the pale.

IIRC you can be quite the white supremacist rear end in a top hat as Göring in Mittelafrika.

Samolety
Jan 27, 2008

I have returned from negotiations with Comrade Ignatov and have found him to be quite agreeable.
I believe it is peace in our time.
All this talk of turning the grimdarkness of KR into happyland makes me want to get back into my Social Democrat Russia game with precisely that goal. If it isn't a democracy, invade it. It has been going quite well!

Lustful Man Hugs
Jul 18, 2010

Samolety posted:

All this talk of turning the grimdarkness of KR into happyland makes me want to get back into my Social Democrat Russia game with precisely that goal. If it isn't a democracy, invade it. It has been going quite well!

Is KR even that dark? Yeah, there are some dark things happening in the beginning, but considering we're comparing it to the 1936-1945 period in real life, it always seemed a bit idealistic to me. The Internationale exists as opposed to the incredibly Totalitarian Soviet Union. Fascism and Nazism don't exist and don't get to exist, etc.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Lustful Man Hugs posted:

Is KR even that dark? Yeah, there are some dark things happening in the beginning, but considering we're comparing it to the 1936-1945 period in real life, it always seemed a bit idealistic to me. The Internationale exists as opposed to the incredibly Totalitarian Soviet Union. Fascism and Nazism don't exist and don't get to exist, etc.

Plus, nukes are never used because the AI can't figure that poo poo out. Quite a stark contrast to the Darkest Timeline of Darkest Hour, where the USA nukes the entirety of Japan into the ground, and Germany and Italy as well if they last that long.

Samolety
Jan 27, 2008

I have returned from negotiations with Comrade Ignatov and have found him to be quite agreeable.
I believe it is peace in our time.
True, more the 'potential grimdarkness' of KR where everyone goes super-authoritarian.
Really though, who cares? I'm just using that as an excuse for a Russia WC. :v:

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011
How the hell do you win as Commune of France? I can inflict 5 times the casualties I take and Germany'll still end up having 500 MP left when I run out because they start with a shitload of units so they can save up their MP plus they can make their puppets take the worst hits.

GrossMurpel fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Nov 11, 2014

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Have you gotten the "Damocles project" events with the Union of Britain yet?

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

So I'm pretty much entirely new to actually playing Kaiserreich, is there some sort of screenshot LP that's a good tutorial to Kaiserreich/Darkest Hour or is the in-game tutorial good enough at introducing new players to the game?

ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Nov 12, 2014

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

GrossMurpel posted:

How the hell do you win as Commune of France? I can inflict 5 times the casualties I take and Germany'll still end up having 500 MP left when I run out because they start with a shitload of units so they can save up their MP plus they can make their puppets take the worst hits.

I've managed to win as the Syndicalists pretty easily against Germany, but only when I've been the Union of Britain and using those extra troops effectively. AI UoB doesn't tend to do anywhere near as well, whereas it's perfectly competent as the Commune of France.

Ferrosol
Nov 8, 2010

Notorious J.A.M

GrossMurpel posted:

How the hell do you win as Commune of France? I can inflict 5 times the casualties I take and Germany'll still end up having 500 MP left when I run out because they start with a shitload of units so they can save up their MP plus they can make their puppets take the worst hits.

I've found the best way to win as the commune is twofold take the drat blitzkrieg tree Paul Gentilhoume? something in the early events and focus on rushing down that doctrine tree while also building up a motorized/Tank force for breakthroughs. Back up this mobile force with your infantry and then throw everything you've got that's mobile at Flanders-Walloonia and also the Netherlands if they decide to side with the Germans. BUILD AN AIRFORCE I generally try to have about 16 Interceptor wings 12 Tactical Wings and as many CAS as I can scrape together before the war kicks off in 39. With your Armour breaking through you can then cut off and encircle most of the german front line and conquer a big chunk of western Germany before they get their puppets into position. What I did then was have the TACs do interdictions while the CAS would harry retreating ground troops and murder them. Don't bother much with a navy that's the British problem but do try and keep at least a few reserves back to cover for when the Canadians/New Englanders/Australians/Indians manage to land a division somewhere and you need to kick them out. Once you conquer Germany the game is practically won because the Syndie AI for Germany just turns out tons of military units.

The other strategy I've found that works is focus on Spain and northern Italy and make your partners there pretty powerful they turn into pretty nasty combatants when you make sure they can conquer their entire country. I think I conquered spain with one group of 4 Tactical bombers your starting marine corps and a single group of regular infantry and once the spanish syndies start pumping out infantry they do pretty well helping you hold the line. Italy can be a bit tricky but should take more than about 12-15 divisions to liberate from the capitalist pigs. Though do be careful because sometimes austria intervenes and a fully unified austria is scary.

Dibujante
Jul 27, 2004

GrossMurpel posted:

I like the government form "Authoritarian Democratic" because it's pretty paradox considering the slider names.


Do Mongolia with only cav!

Mongolia with only cav is worth it. Big, smashy cavalry armies can actually do a proper blitzkrieg, with encirclements and everything. Take Beijing in under a week!

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

Putin apologist- assume all uncited claims are from Russia Today or directly from FSB.

key phrases: Poor plucky little Russia, Spheres of influence, The West is Worse, they was asking for it.
Yep, it works suprisingly well.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Two: The Federal Salient (Late November 1936)

The following is a selection of excerpts from the journals and letters of militiamen and foreign volunteers during the first days of the Revolution. Thousands of other stories are available to read as part of the Stories of Revolution archive on http://www.smithsonian.csa/revolutionday Please join us this November 11th for our Revolution Day celebrations as we remember and honor those who fought and died for our freedoms.



Hayden Collins, Leicester, England, Transatlantic Expeditionary Force

November 15th, 1936

The reception the New Yorkers gave us when we steamed in was incredible but we only had one day to enjoy it before we herded onto the trains to Pittsburgh. The Appalachians are quite striking and it is good to be among miners again. It is a welcome reminder of home and part of me almost wants to drop my rifle and get to work in the mines like nothing has changed. My new comrades have told me tales of the conditions they've been dealing with here, tales that make me appreciate how much the Revolution has changed Britain for the better. I do not regret my decision to leave England. Coming here has given substance to the internationalist ideals I've preached all these years. I would gladly die so that these men may enjoy what we have across the ocean. We are waiting here for a few days before we begin our advance into the federal held territory of West Virginia, another state with many mines and mountains. Rumor is we're waiting on a few militias from up north to arrive.



While we're waiting here, me and some of the boys decided we'd check out the city and speak with some of the militiamen, to get a feel for how prepared these men really are. The airport was an interesting sight, the Americans are using very old planes as bombers, nothing like the sleek planes our aviation works produce in Britain. I met a few of the pilots, some of them used to fly crop dusters, one was part of a flying circus, some are basically new to flying and learning as they go. While we were headed back to our camp, we did see a large flight of bombers headed towards Maryland.


(imagine there's arrows going from Pittsburgh to Huntington and Philadelphia to Baltimore)

I wish them and all the revolutionaries luck. We are going to need it.



Benoît Monrency, Aix-en-Provence, France, Benjamin Franklin Corps

November 16th, 1936

Pierre,

The men are doing extremely well here. I know you were worried about our men possibly ending up involved in intra-CSA squabbles but I don't think we will have that problem. We made the right choice in requesting to be under the command of General Marshall, for he is an extremely competent commander. The anarchist elements that concern you are certainly present but he has kept the Benjamin Franklin Corps running very well so far. He commands respect in the way that he listens to professional officer, anarchist firebrand and union representative all the same, and takes their input into genuine consideration when he makes a decision, in such a way that we all leave his presence feeling like we have been heard. He stands in stark contrast to MacArthur, whose lust for glory some of the ex-US Army officers on our side tell horror tales of and who many of the more moderate social democrats and trade unionists in our midst blame for making this revolution necessary in the first place.



Apparently our British comrades are under the command of another professional officer, one Maurice Rose, who has an excellent reputation among the American officers I have spoken with here. The purely American units are under the command of political figures and organizers, not unlike the the columns from our own revolutions. I am sure they will learn the art of war as they go.



Our march towards Washington is getting off to a good start. Our intelligence indicates that most of the federal forces had moved south when Long's rebellion began and so they are either pinned down or spending precious time redeploying to defend against our advances. I'm sure our British comrades envy us as our first contact with the enemy was a heated engagement with Royalist volunteers across the Susquehanna river. Surely they would have liked to give their old enemy a piece of their mind, but I think we did a fine job of delivering their message.



We're currently settling into Baltimore. This city has split sympathies due to its proximity to the federal capital and to Philadelphia. There is a sizable contingent of the Benjamin Franklin Corps of union men who fled Baltimore to escape the police crackdown. Marshall is insistent that reprisals are forbidden, though we have jailed and replaced the mayor who had forced our comrades to flee in the first place.




Hopefully by the time you read this, I will be penning you another letter from Washington!

Bien à vous,
Benoît



Ella Stewart, Dundee, Scotland, Revolutionary Air Guards

November 30th, 1936

What a week its been! I knew this mission was a good idea, there's no way the Air Command can deny the qualifications of female pilots after we are done here. The Internationale's feminist rhetoric will finally be backed up by practice. I hope the little girls of the next generation will be encouraged to take up flying, instead of being told its not a woman's place. If we can get some female aces, then it'll be easy for women to believe they can fly and fight just as well or better than the men. We were scoffed at by the all-male American wing when we arrived, now they don't laugh, since if it weren't for us their obsolete planes would be coffins by now.
We've a modern British wing and a French wing here, both with sizable contingents of female pilots. Adrienne took a sabbatical from flying air mail between London and Paris to join the Communal volunteers, much to my delight. It has been far too long since I've seen her and we've already flown a few missions together. She didn't bring up what happened between us at flight school and I suppose she's right not to, given the focus we need for this mission. It's hard enough to watch my wingmates die without having my heart break.



The one thing that does concern me about this experience is that we could get into some bad habits. The federal troops have nothing in the way of anti-air artillery and we have carte blanche to fly over the battlefield so long as there are no enemy planes nearby, which is increasingly often. When that happens we have been doing reconnaissance, which I'll confess has doubled as sightseeing for me. We've been covering the advance of the Benjamin Franklin Corps and Transatlantic Expeditionary Force. Adrienne and I flew over the National Mall to get an idea of federal defenses around the White House and watched as Marshall's men overwhelmed those defending the city. Adrienne thought she saw a plane in the distance at one point and wanted to give chase but I told her to stick with me. I regret it now, since rumor is that plane held an escaping MacArthur. Imagine that headline in the Telegraph! MacArthur killed in crash, downed by woman aces! That would get their attention! Not to be, I'm afraid. Somebody will give that man what he deserves eventually.



Apart from the urban centers of Baltimore and Washington, we've also spent some time flying through the Appalachians, where my countrymen are doing battle with the Union State. The mountains there are impressive, though some of the American pilots tell me the Rockies are much more so. I hope to see them before this is over.

It has been a surreal experience to be spectators to the destruction below as if we were gods. Why I'm concerned is that the Union State Air Force is known to not be as anemic as the federal one, so we must be vigilant not to let our current freedom of the skies embolden us too much in the future. One bad decision could kill us up here, and I am determined to see Adrienne and I through this safely.


(I did eventually change the name of this unit to Abraham Lincoln Corps)

Leon Thomas, Chicago, CSA, Abraham Lincoln Corps

November 24th, 1936

I'm starting to think the capitalists have elections in November because potential revolutionaries won't want to go outside in this goddamn cold. I can't be too bitter about it though, we haven't had to fight anybody on the way south from Chicago. Some of the more eager in the Corps are angry that the TAF and BFC are getting all the action in the east but I'm not. I'm in no rush to die. I only march because I don't want some peckerhead in a white hood hanging up my son from a tree. Minnie and I left Mississippi to get away from that and I'll be damned if I allow it to follow us.
Fighting for Haywood was a good choice. Don't get me wrong, I feel much safer in Chicago than I did in Mississippi but there were still the riots and discrimination to contend with. Haywood doesn't put up with any racism in the Corps. He's a tough man, he fought off the Irish during the riots, he's got training from the National Guard and the fact that our unit is probably the most organized and well equipped of any in the Syndicate Guards (excepting the Europeans) can be credited to him.
We're on our way to Saint Louis now. Word from Haywood is that the police there are preventing the unions from organizing militias and declaring for the CSA, so we're going to go resolve that situation. Maybe then we can head south and get out of this drat cold.

L'Humanité December 1st, 1936
(I'm gonna do these newspaper things for foreign events rather than trying to shoehorn them into the civil war narrative)

Benjamin Franklin Corps Capture Washington
Our American comrades marched into the federal capital, lifting the red and black over the White House. President Hoover and General MacArthur were nowhere to be found. MacArthur is believed to have fled the city by airplane to the American west and President Hoover is believed to be in exile in Canada. The American proletariat with the assistance of brave French volunteers evicted the Royalist scum from the capital across the Potomac River to Arlington. They are cut off from the rest of the federal territory by the Transatlantic Expeditionary Force in Charlottesville.



The federal government has fled to the mountain city of Denver, hoping the plains and Rocky mountains can protect them from the inevitable victory of the proletariat.



MacArthur's illegitimacy has caused the federal government's empire to crumble. Their former puppets in Liberia announced today an agreement with the colonialist regime in Algiers that adds Liberia to the ranks of the Entente.




The breakaway Pacific States of America declared war on MacArthur's junta as well, showing that MacArthur is incapable of keeping peace even among the bourgeoisie of America. MacArthur's attempts to negotiate a peace or alliance with the west coast have fallen on deaf ears.



Hawaii, which the capitalist Americans stole from the natives so long ago, has declared its independence and seized what remained of the American government's Pacific islands.



The military government of Mexico has also crossed the border, seeking to reintegrate the territories taken from Mexico in the imperialist Mexican War of 1846. While we do not weep for MacArthur, we do not regard the Mexican government as legitimate, since it has sought to dismantle the revolutionary progress of the late great Emiliano Zapata. The Combined Syndicates of America are the only entity with legitimate authority over the American Southwest.

Japanese Empire Fracturing?



The imperialist nation of Japan has long sought to compete with the European empires in Asia, and in doing so they have built a network of puppet states and imperial possessions. The peoples of this empire yearn for freedom and it seems that the Japanese government has been forced to at respond to them. A new Korean state was proclaimed this week, although it is clearly a puppet of the Japanese Empire. Hopefully this will ignite the consciousness of the Korean worker and inspire them to throw off the shackles of capitalist Japan.



The island of Formosa has been granted independence in a similar arrangement to that of Korea. The light of syndicalism has not spread far in Asia thus far, but we hope that Japan's troubles signal the beginning of an awakening for the Asian worker.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Surprised that the US gave up Washington without much of a fight.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Zeroisanumber posted:

Surprised that the US gave up Washington without much of a fight.

I think it has to do with the delayed CSA revolt. In games where the revolt was simultaneous, there were at least three divisions from the USA contesting Washington.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

For those who have played Kaiserreich, does Liberia have any events or a unique back story attached to it?

Erwin the German
May 30, 2011

:3
Guess Mexico's gonna get a taste of the revolution sooner rather than later. Can't let that slide.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.
Seconding the surprise at how easy it was to take Washington. In my playthrough Washington ended up a heavily garrisoned island surrounded by the CSA/AUS front lines and MacArthur (a good general) held us both off for a good six months until I could push the AUS back and properly surround the city.

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
I don't think I have ever seen Washington be defended. :shrug:

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



QuoProQuid posted:

For those who have played Kaiserreich, does Liberia have any events or a unique back story attached to it?

Some. It gets some elections, a possible civil war, and some events depending on what's going on with the colonial nations around it. Nothing terribly interesting, but a lot more than you'd expect out of such a tiny nation.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


John Charity Spring posted:

I've managed to win as the Syndicalists pretty easily against Germany, but only when I've been the Union of Britain and using those extra troops effectively. AI UoB doesn't tend to do anywhere near as well, whereas it's perfectly competent as the Commune of France.

Also one of the best parts about DH/HoI compared to other Paradox games is that you can literally take over your AI ally's units and integrate them into your own command structure. The AI is pretty bad at sending aid on their own, so just go to the diplomacy screen and Assume Control. It adds more micromanagement for you, but just imagine you're playing as Supreme Allied Commander or something.

Also only works if you have more IC than the ally you want to control.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

Your playstyle for the CSA is very different from mine. When I played, I spread my troops out into 1-division corps to create an defense perimeter from Chicago to Baltimore. In your game, the US troops are conspicuously absent, but in mine the US and the AUS were attacking all along the line and I only survived the first couple of months because of winter defense bonuses. It'll be interesting to see where the US army will attack when it finally shows up in force.

Did you build anything before you tag-switched to the CSA?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

VostokProgram posted:

Your playstyle for the CSA is very different from mine. When I played, I spread my troops out into 1-division corps to create an defense perimeter from Chicago to Baltimore. In your game, the US troops are conspicuously absent, but in mine the US and the AUS were attacking all along the line and I only survived the first couple of months because of winter defense bonuses. It'll be interesting to see where the US army will attack when it finally shows up in force.

Did you build anything before you tag-switched to the CSA?

My goal was to move into strong defensive positions and have enough force to secure Arlington which is imo the most important province in the opening phase against the USA. I was planning on having Rose and Nelson move to Clarksburg then through to Arlington while supporting Marshall's counterattack on an expected attack from Washington to Baltimore. When I figured out just how weak the USA presence was I changed it up and moved Nelson down and had Marshall handle it himself. Once the Baltimore/Washington battle was wrapped up, I would have redeployed from around there to a more spread out formation. Of course things went differently and I adapted as I went. Sorry about the delay, dealing with a few unexpected things and working Saturday but I do plan on combining my next two updates into the next one hopefully Saturday but definitely Sunday.

I left the production queue alone which means that it was just the USS Ranger being built. The USA had almost no IC left for production anyway between peacetime and dissent penalties.

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Lustful Man Hugs
Jul 18, 2010

For me, the American Civil War was easy because CSA gets volunteers from other countries that are regular quality troops, while the other civil war factions get mainly militia.

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