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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Yea what happened to Iceland and the Faroe Islands? I remember there was, something about them?

Also what will the update schedule be?

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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Followed an earlier Kaiserreich LP and this one looks just as good. Can we get a bit of an overview next time though? I guess if you're familiar with American geography it makes more sense but I honestly have very little idea of how much you control.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Hmmm, odd that there'd be no Syndies in the east. I forget, what's the state of the Ottoman empire right now? Are they mostly about dealing with Arab nationalism or?

Btw best LP for how cathartic it is to imagine a left wing victory in the US. Dang.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

paragon1 posted:

We're going to need a lot of rafts.
Why ride the sea, when you can ride the skies?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
"Freedom" is relative. Is the person who is assigned a job relative his merits, who is free of worries of hunger, free of debt and guaranteed employment, more or less free than the person who is free to starve on the street and get shot by gangs, but doesn't have to pay taxes or gets to vote for mayor?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

NewMars posted:

If you engineer a situation where this question is one that can legitimately be asked, you're the bad guy. :v:
Ehh, I'm only half joking. Especially when it comes to folks in the US talking a lot a poo poo about "freedom", those folks seem to be very cool with the freedom of the rich and pale to gently caress over others and less the freedom from hunger, lack of education, poo poo like that.

I'd think that a closed would be moving further away from unions and such you can freely move between (and like union councils? this is how they're supposed to operate?) towards a more Danwei like system, which has disadvantages but is a heck of a lot better than "you ten to the ghetto and lovely schools, this guy gets to coast on his parents wealth into life-long debt".

fakeedit: still in chuckles over a land where you can vote for a judge but not for more than 2 parties

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

John Charity Spring posted:

China Mieville's 'rejected pitch' for a socialist superhero fits in here, I think. Although obviously the setup would be different...
Man, I have the gayest of Boners for Miéville and that pitch is fantastic. Every time I was dragged to an Iron Man movie I was sorta stunned you were supposed to side with the arms-dealing drunkard and not the villains, who were more often than not totally in the right.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Hah, I missed the first movie actually, where I'm told he's humanized a lot and the other two are coloured by the fact that to me, Iron Man will always pretty much be "80's Capitalism is great, viva Neoliberalism" the super'hero'.

I haven't seen the movies in years, but from what I remember the second one was the corporate sleazebag getting the burd russian to help him. Burd Russians dad had worked with Starks dad to develop the tech that Stark jr uses but because he wanted to weaponize it and sell it, Stark dad sells him out to the Soviet who send him to the gulag and he then dies in poverty and pain. I would characterize this as "a huge loving dick move". He also steals all the credit, which is a further dick move.

Stark jr then proceeds to use the exact same tech to make his weapon, that he doesn't want "the darn gubmint" to have because uhh, gubmint is always incompetent and bad. Except instead of being punished he gets to enjoy the wads of cash he inherited from his dad and continue to be a worthless parasite on mankind.

I saw the movie as the story of a man seeking just revenge for the sins of the father, in the son, whos fortune was not only built on the stolen effort of the two but actually did what Stark sr condemned russia dad to the gulag for: Weaponized the tech. He then cleverly uses the resources of a man no different from Stark to try and accomplish his goals. But in he's so focused on revenge he goes too far, but on the other hand I've seen movies like that; it adds to the drama where you're so out for revenge you start doing evil.

Money can't pay for his lost childhood, his lost father, the lost credit for the world-changing invention. Stark is living a lie and he deserves to die for it. Or something, I´m being intentionally over-dramatic.

I barely remember the third movie except for that all the poo poo that the Mandarin said was true from what I remember and the movie started with the song "I'M BLUE" because I've been getting more and more sick of being dragged to every Marvel movie and have therefore prepared better and better with vodka. I still thought of him as a villain after 2. I guess it was another one of those "oh i guess america is bad but lets make the villain say it so we can disregard it" thing.

Also if he's seeking redemption, what the gently caress has he been doing? I don't see how helping a kid have a nice christmas or not being a poo poo-heel is anything that near makes up for being a drunken corporate overlord. Just being rich is already bad, being so via inherited wealth and then furthermore spending lots of it on conspicuous consumption bullshit just furthers my contempt for him.

And to be honest, if they hadn't made the perfect choice in Robert Downey Jr I think people would be a lot less accepting of him. He's drat good in that role.

Anyway, this was DP talks about that movie he once saw and it really annoyed him also he saw the 3rd movie in that trilogy and he dislikes the character in a few hundred words.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I can't believe no-one has pointed out the clearly most important American possession to be reclaimed for the Syndicalist cause.

The CSA MUST INVADE HAWAI'I!

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Zeroisanumber posted:

Hawaii is free of imperialist dominion.
I thought it was part of the Entente? Vaguely remember it being part of the blokes we was fightin' earlier.

Unless you mean irl in which case I wish. Just, so cool.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Is there any sorta historical precedent for a nation going "Oh welp, better this other guy get my lands than the guy I really hate" or is it just board-gamer mentality shining through?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Ah, cool. And it makes for better gameplay too; less of a steamroll with you now controlling 2/3rds of the country.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Really, I'd like for Africa in general, as well as the Ottomans to do more. It's sorta conspicuous how unimportant they usually are compared to the rest.

I'm fine with Australia and SE-Asia just being a hinterland for the Japanese to conquer though.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
The great socialist Maolini is the reason why S-Italy turned so leftist; he thought up this radical idea that it is not the worker who is the foundation of the revolution but the farmer.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Why Asia though? Aren't we ideally placed for taking on Africa and the Middle-East? Or are there no events for that?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Magnificent.

If only we had lived in a world like that.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Well, seeing as this world has no IMF or World Bank and Bretton Woods won't happen, things can only look up for Africa. :v:

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

paragon1 posted:

For that matter, what protections and representation does a syndicalist society offer to people who can't or won't belong to a trade union? How does a trade union get recognized by whatever governmental superstructure may exist?

How do I get the resources start up a new business that may only need to employ myself and a few others to begin with?

And I've brought this up before, but what happens to the professional class which historically simply hasn't needed a union, and mostly associate via partnerships like doctors, accountants, lawyers and such? Presumably they would just get hired by whatever management or agents the unions appoint, but do they get any political representation?
There's academic unions; here we have the union of university graduates. who mostly represent highly educated professionals. Syndics probs could do the same.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Chief Savage Man posted:

If there's one thing I would have changed, I would have left Africa alone and let the African Conference events that we'll see later do the nation building. I'm not sure how exactly that chain is supposed to work but I forgot all about it when I was playing this game and so went ahead and released my own.
Too late to edit things around for it to come up? It sounds hella interesting.

Kavak posted:

Fatboy never makes it to trial in any game.

Zambia, Malawi, and Namibia will need to be released to somebody- what else of Mittelafrika is undecided?
Or maybe you or CSM can just go into them?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Hah, so your utopia still has outdated religions in it? How bizarre.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Chief Savage Man posted:

I grew up in a town with enough Jews in it that we got Jewish holidays off of school as well as Christmas and Easter, so any utopia of mine must have a good distribution of Jewish people so that all schoolchildren get Rosh Hashanah off.
Hah, yeah, it's just something you get used to from Americans. It's endearing in a way.

And a nice sidestep of what would otherwise be a huge thing I mean, the whole situation of the Balfour Deceleration never happening and not the Shoah either, would there really be the same intense international pressure to create a separate national state of Israel as a homeland? How would anarcho-syndicalists feel about trying to create a nation state, about decolonization?

Agean90 posted:

lol at implying that america will never be religious is some fashion
There's still a huge disconnect, even between Reform and some of the other branches.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I'd say that the LP archive would also be a good option, as it's a pretty painless process to get an LP added there.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Chief Savage Man posted:

Maybe I'll get into that later then.
F
Speaking of, does anybody have a country they'd like to see in an intermission?
:iceland:

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
What are the attributes of both in Kaiserreich?

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Chief Savage Man posted:

:japan:
Major power that isn't a part of any faction and has a large amount of industry (though not nearly as much as the CSA). Has a variety of paths that could bring it into conflict with almost anybody but by far the biggest power in the Pacific considering the USA is making GBS threads itself.

:australia:
Middle power that starts in the Entente and has a medium amount of industry. Relatively isolated from danger but has allies that are under threat. Japan would be a strictly imperialist game, Australia would probably involve a lot of expeditionary forces in India, Africa and North America trying to keep the Entente going.

Depends on if you want to have a game where we're a major power in charge of its own destiny or a middle power that is more subject to the course of global events. Both are fun games to play and there's plenty of branching paths I could come up with for people to vote on.
Aight, Japan but only if you promise to go Syndicalist again.

That would honestly be a pretty neat thing, if the whole LP was only syndicalism~

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

I Killed GBS posted:

The Mongolian stuff wasn't syndicalist.
Jeez, I'd completely forgotten that was this LP.

Because, holy smokes that was 2 years ago. What the hellllll

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

You can go Syndicalist as Australasia if you accept a coup event early.
Dammit, I already voted. The idea of Communist Syndicalist Japan invading China though is very amusing to me

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Ehhh, I should show some loyalty to my old discipline, if we're on the topic of schoolin' anyhow

It's mostly just that poor ole 'straya never gets the limelight, whereas Japan is quite popular in these sorta games. We'll see how it goes~

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Btw, I'd like to add how great your balance of fiction and actual gameplay has been. After reading some LPs here on the forum and some, usually even worse on the Paradox ones, it feels less like it's an LP and more like it's fan fiction that occasionally mentions the game, something you avoid very nicely.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Man, this LP is such a ray of sunshine in a world of liberalism. I almost wanna print it out and make it into a book or something.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Drone posted:

Really, the British AI in literally every Paradox game is awful.
no no no why is your army in london! they're everywhere all over my lands you motherfu

- me, CK2, EUIV, HOI4

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I do not understand how they mess it up even in CK2, where naval warfare is nonexistent and they literally just have to have enough boats to ferry them roughly near where they're supposed to engage in war but no, somehow even that doesn't go right.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
That Ethiopian event is great and I hope it continues

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Man, just the very idea of Japanese troops backing Canada in a war against the US is the sort of beautiful madness that makes this game worth the whole shebang.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
All true Japanese should crave the African D! If we could forge closer links with the Ethiopians, it would be a major coup as well!

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
I have this hilarious idea of the Japanese troops bringing huge sacks of rice and trying to explain to Icelanders how sushi works.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

AJ_Impy posted:

Kćstur hákarl sushi.
Hahaha, I have done this, with hot Brennivín.

Let's just say they liked the hot tubs with Japanese bathing songs better~ (Though smoked trout/lamb sashimi was fairly popular)

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
gently caress tha French. The absolutely worst part of the Entente, even worse than the drat monarchies

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

paragon1 posted:

PRTO maybe? I couldn't think of a set of words that make it a sort of plausible non-word word like NATO.

国際軍事協力機関

こぐきょき for short

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Yeah, the European governments in Africa are all trash. Once the war is over, it will be time to deal with them...

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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Is there any faction you can't win as? You seem to more or less steamroll all opposition!

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