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I voted early so I could feel smug and important  Anyone here know anything about Florida's election? Or know any good place to find out? Most of our local news outlets are a joke. Just a reminder for everyone: Rick Scott literally defrauded the government and we elected him anyway. I should just move to a better state shouldn't I
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VanSandman posted:You're right. I'll do that instead. I'm in. NC Goon Meet '14: Tramp the Dirt Down
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Nov 2, 2014 20:24
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I voted early so I could feel smug and important Yes, Rick Scott defrauded the government, but Crist hugged Obama and LOST 800,000 JOBS and also he wanted a fan and is probably secretly gay. Why won't you confirm THAT, Politifact?
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Nov 2, 2014 20:35
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, as an American I was raised to believe that a third party vote is the same as a vote against the mainstream party that you would have otherwise voted for. Thank goodness I'm a New Yorker, where we can vote third party AND have it count.
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Nov 2, 2014 21:18
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I voted early so I could feel smug and important I posted this in the midterms thread last night, it's about the only hard data I've seen other than the polling which shows the governor race to be a toss up. PDP-1 posted:New FL numbers out on early votes (EV) and absentee votes (AB) as well as the totals (EVAB). Note that this isn't which candidate people have voted for just what the voter's party affiliation is. This is the last weekend of early voting here and democrats have been consistently behind but closing the gap over the last few weeks. That gap stands at 4.8% overall without this weekend's numbers included.
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Nov 2, 2014 21:19
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Warcabbit posted:Thank goodness I'm a New Yorker, where we can vote third party AND have it count. Vote with your heart for the primaries; vote with your party for the general; vote again if given the chance (sometimes, you are) PDP-1 posted:I posted this in the midterms thread last night, it's about the only hard data I've seen other than the polling which shows the governor race to be a toss up. By the time of election day, races are already decided for practical purposes. Either you've had the infrastructure in place or not; either your mass media buys have achieved the results you wanted or not. 2014 was decided a while before election day. All we're looking at is the results of campaign infrastructure and how multiple levels of parties synergize with each other. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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Nov 2, 2014 21:19
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SnakePlissken posted:Where is it anyway? Just out of unrelated, casual curiosity? Oakwood
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Nov 2, 2014 22:13
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Eschatos posted:Joementum, that info is super useful and you're a good person. I'd been unable to find where I can vote because my state's lovely website won't accept my home address. Thanks. It's not printed on your voter's registration card?
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Nov 2, 2014 23:23
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PDP-1 posted:I posted this in the midterms thread last night, it's about the only hard data I've seen other than the polling which shows the governor race to be a toss up. Thanks! Luigi Thirty posted:Yes, Rick Scott defrauded the government, but Crist hugged Obama and LOST 800,000 JOBS and also he wanted a fan and is probably secretly gay. Why won't you confirm THAT, Politifact? As a gay man I cast my vote for Charlie Crist because he is the cuter of the two and will spread my gay agenda with his liberal hugs. 
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Nov 2, 2014 23:29
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Esquire has a great piece out on the Guy Who's About To Lose to Professional Dingbat Renee Ellmers in 48 Hours. quote:When Aiken discovered that Ellmers last won by 14 points after outspending her opponent 14 to 1 in a district where Republicans hold a 10-point advantage and where Obama lost by 16 points, he saw an opportunity. As soon as he announced his official candidacy, team Ellmers warned voters that Aiken was "a performer whose political views more closely resemble those of San Francisco than Sanford." quote:If Renee Ellmers carpetbagged on to the darkest, most fearful shadow of the southern self, Clay Aiken has made himself the disinfecting sunshine. He understands the value of humor to the region, of self-effacement, of irony. He abhors bullshit but knows how to insinuate, seeing in a way Ellmers never will how in the South, what looks like fiction is the truth. quote:Earlier in the week, he attended a "prayer for peace" vigil at a church in Harnett County. The local sheriff spoke, advising people to "carry their guns everywhere" in case they needed to "take care of business before we get there." The district attorney also addressed the crowd. When the reverend opened the conversation to the floor, a man wearing a yellow shirt in the pew ahead of Aiken bolted upright and grabbed the mic. He introduced himself as a local preacher.
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Nov 2, 2014 23:32
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So, does anybody here use https://www.isidewith.com to increase voter awareness, either for himself/herself or for others? I took the full length quiz back in the '12 (after maybe following the link from here) , and it surprised me that I side most closely with the Green party, though I gave my vote to Obama anyhow. I've gotten a few people who originally did not plan to vote in the midterms to take it, and now they have early voted. They've got midterm specific issues on there, so I guess I'm wondering why I haven't seen this bandied around more often. I guess most people in this thread already know way more about their political arena than most, but it seems like an easy awareness tool if you're trying to GOTV. Is it sponsored by some hated party? Is it a bunch of crap?
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Nov 2, 2014 23:40
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Kameh posted:So, does anybody here use https://www.isidewith.com to increase voter awareness, either for himself/herself or for others? I took the full length quiz back in the '12 (after maybe following the link from here) , and it surprised me that I side most closely with the Green party, though I gave my vote to Obama anyhow. Take this fun quiz to find out which idealistic but impotent third party YOU are!
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Nov 2, 2014 23:47
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Wow that isidewith site isn't very helpful. I'm a green/democrat/libertarian/socialist apparently!
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Nov 2, 2014 23:49
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Haha, according to that site I side between 92 and 95% with every candidate on the Hawaii district 1 ballot, with the exception of the lone Republican governor candidate. I guess it's telling me it doesn't matter who I vote for. Actually, I think I knew that already. Hawaii is not exactly a battleground state.
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Nov 2, 2014 23:55
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It matched me to nobody for all the state senate races. Seriously gently caress Florida, I shouldn't have to vote against people I want to vote for people  EDIT: you bastards 
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Nov 2, 2014 23:57
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So pick the party or candidate with whom you most closely align, percentage wise or "issue most important to me," right? I may just surround myself with lazy idiots, and perhaps I am one too, but telling someone to "research the issues" doesn't get people to question who they should vote for when a good chunk of people don't vote, or if they do, vote on a single issue. Is there something better than a sourced questionnaire? Kameh fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 00:01
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Kameh posted:So pick the party or candidate with whom you most closely align, percentage wise or "issue most important to me." Like, is there a better alternative. I'm not really giving it a fair shake, this is definitely the easiest and fastest way I can think of to get someone who doesn't care about voting to at least slightly pay attention to the candidates. I also think its algorithms are awful but whatever.
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Nov 3, 2014 00:02
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Technically I side more with the Greens but it's 87% versus 85% and that's probably because I was too lazy to put weighting into how important I found each issue.
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Nov 3, 2014 00:04
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Not exactly surprising that I side with the Democrats in my state: http://www.isidewith.com/vermont-voter-guide/166/699771611 Though I think they included some options from the Liberty Union Party, so I got to select "abolish all national borders" as my answer for one of them.
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Nov 3, 2014 00:07
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I'm getting 2% for all the Republicans for saying "meh to common core" but ranking it least important 
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Nov 3, 2014 00:20
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I'm getting 2% for all the Republicans for saying "meh to common core" but ranking it least important It told me that Burlington, VT was a hotbed of Republicanism, so this may not be the most accurate tool 
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Nov 3, 2014 00:21
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I rank between 52 and 54 percent Republican, 39 or so percent Democrat and 8 percent hosed on most of my statewide races. Wow, its no wonder I don't vote. Also they say I am close to the Constitutional party on social issues which is hosed. The only area, I can see, where I agree with them is on removing religious monuments on public grounds and my reasoning for opposition to that is entirely different from theirs. That is to say that I view them as historical artifacts, rather than as active religious symbols. On a related note, the "education" section is laughable with its one question.
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Nov 3, 2014 00:23
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Joementum has been a secret Republican this whole time. e: On my results, in order I was 97% Greens, 93% Dems, and 72% Socialists with only 1% for all the conservative parties. I can dig that. Aves Maria! fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 00:25
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Joementum posted:Good OP Texas closes at 7pm, or is that what you meant by 8PM (CST)?
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I think the issue with their algorithm in Vermont is that there is no Democratic candidate for Lt. Governor because the party endorsed the Progressive Party candidate instead (who won the Democratic primary as a write-in), but they don't acknowledge him as a candidate and default to assigning you as a supporter of the Republican.
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JosefStalinator posted:Texas closes at 7pm, or is that what you meant by 8PM (CST)? All of the times in bold are Eastern, so yes Texas closes at 8PM Eastern, 7PM Central. (Or 7PM Mountain in the area around El Paso)
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Nov 3, 2014 00:33
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Joementum posted:It told me that Burlington, VT was a hotbed of Republicanism, so this may not be the most accurate tool We were in Burlington end of August, it was lovely. Do they let the Subarus and Dogs vote too?
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SedanChair posted:There is no "America" there are only craven individual sociopaths, in power, acting for themselves. Many programs affected by the shutdown killed more than your sad African disease. There is no secret dirty tricks program to prevent shutdowns, you delusional man. 
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Duke Igthorn posted:_____________________________/ I mean, at least he'd probably institute universal healthcare for his Doombot service workers.
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comes along bort posted:She'll probably win and don't do that because the groundskeepers are nice folks and the mansion itself belongs to the public. Go piss on Jesse Helms' grave instead. +1. Jesse Helms' grave needs more urine.
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So I am 1% republican because Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government? I said Yes Republicans: Yes, but allow limited logging, drilling, and mining I guess drilling, logging and mining are still preserving and protecting in a Republican's mind
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Nov 3, 2014 02:25
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:So I am 1% republican because
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Yeah, I'm reading that iVote site's terms and conditions because I have a hunch:quote:In addition to any Personal Information or other information that you choose to provide to us on the Site, we and our third-party service providers may use a variety of technologies that automatically collect certain web site usage information whenever you visit or interact with the Site. This information may include browser type, operating system, the page served, the time, and the preceding page view, among other information. We may use this web site usage information for a variety of purposes, including to enhance or otherwise improve the Site. In addition, your IP address or some other unique identifier for the particular device you use to access the Internet (collectively referred to as a "Device Identifier"), as applicable, may be collected. A Device Identifier is a number that is automatically assigned to your computer, your cell phone, or other device used to access the Internet, and our computers identify your device by its Device Identifier. We may associate your Device Identifier with the Personal Information you provide. quote:Mobile Device Identifiers. Certain mobile service providers uniquely identify mobile devices and we or our third-party service providers may receive such device information if you access the Site through mobile devices. Certain features of our Site may require collection of mobile phone numbers and we may associate that phone number to mobile device identification information. Additionally, some mobile phone service providers operate systems that pinpoint the physical location of devices that use their service. Depending on the provider, we or our third-party service providers may receive this information. tl;dr site identifies your responses with you as an individual for third party data processors. Why make any campaign's job even easier while identifying your phone number, email accounts, real name and online pseudonyms, and permanent address with your hotbutton issues?
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Nov 3, 2014 02:53
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I'm now much happier about answering more than a few of the questions with nationalize the means of production.
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So who populates the database with candidate positions, the candidates themselves? It told me I'm 96% compatible with Robert Murray because he agrees with me that the ACA was a good idea, despite him going on record saying it needs to be repealed. I'm curious because he ran as a Republican in 2012, got stomped, and is now running again as a Democrat. Nothing I've read indicated he's actually changed any of his positions, though.
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Sydin posted:So who populates the database with candidate positions, the candidates themselves? It told me I'm 96% compatible with Robert Murray because he agrees with me that the ACA was a good idea, despite him going on record saying it needs to be repealed. An algorithm that messages any candidate who pays as what you want, despite their public record. Or, (default) field whom you most closely align with. Its a pretty good business model, tbh. Its more about getting your PID/AID on record attached to your #, facebook, linkedin, and email accounts. Aggregate a large enough volume of that, and wala! You've got a decently populated dataset to sell.
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Edgar Allan Pwned posted:Hey so I don't know a ton about politics in America (yes I'm american Third party voting counts; however, by voting third party under our election system (first-past-the-post) you are more likely to elect the party that least favors your ideas. The spoiler effect You can vote for third party for any election where they have a candidate running. If Republicans are the majority, they will pass bills in the house and the bills will be filibustered by Democrats in the Senate. If a bill makes it past the Democratic filibuster it is up to President Obama to sign (accept) or veto (reject) the bill. It has been pretty hard for Democrats to pass bills since Republicans took control of the house in 2011. Now if/when Republicans take over the Senate it will now be on Senate Democrats and President Obama to stop passing bills they consider to be bad for the country. Republicans have been stopping bills they consider to be bad for the country since they lost the house and senate in 2007.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Take this fun quiz to find out which idealistic but impotent third party YOU are! I just want to know what Socialists they were speaking to when they made their quiz. 
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Nov 3, 2014 04:24
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Gotta admit, I was kinda hoping it would have more nuanced results. I mean, I'll be damned if I ever vote Republican for a national office, but I know it can get less partisan sometimes at the more local level. Like, maybe I COULD align with a republican for dog catcher or whatever, right? It tells me that I align 92% with the Democrats, and wouldntchaknowit, I should vote straight ticket D, and I happen to align exactly 92% with every single one of them! HMMM! I was also matched 54% to Libertarians because of gay marriage and legal weed. Yay! Also, it's weird, it had specific questions for Arizona state initiatives, but didn't give me any results. Oh well, time to do my own research as usual. According to ballotpedia, Arizona has an average of 13 initiatives per election, but this year there are only three. One of them is the Arizona Rejection of Unconstitutional Federal Actions Amendment (  ). The others are the Arizona Terminal Patients' Right to Try Referendum, which allows terminal patients voluntary access to experimental treatments that have completed phase 1 of a clinical trial only (leaning towards no, because of the long list of sponsors with an R, the language is very combative against the FDA, and I don't trust this not to be an attempt to medically experiment on the poor and desperate) and the Arizona State Legislators' Salaries Propositions (leaning yes, because they aren't adjusted for inflation, haven't changed since 1981, and I feel like paying legislators more could help avoid corruption).Kinda disappointed legal weed didn't make it on the ballot (lots of signatures, but they ultimately punted for 2016). Not that it matters to me. My federal-government-employed-secret-clearance-having rear end still can't afford to piss dirty unless something is done about federal legality. But still, it would make me happy if the already crazy U of A parties here are able to legally be even happier. Hopefully the next iteration includes setting up legal sales too. For some reason, this iteration only allowed for legal growing and possession. Still, I'm impressed at how many poo poo initiatives were kept off this year too: - the one repealing medical weed - the one repealing the Medicaid expansion and formally reprimanding Jan Brewer for signing into it (  )- the one trying to privatize state worker pensions - the one privatizing medical weed research money - GMO labelling initiative - and the Securing the Border Initiative, described as "Provides for biometric identification for border security; requires state involvement in Bitcoin"  Bonus: I got asked if I would consider voting for Gabby Saucedo Mercer by a street volunteer. Took most of my restraint to avoid laughing in his face when I told him no, I would in fact, NOT be voting against Raul Grijalva, especially not for a Republican whose whole campaign is "I'm Mexican too!". Tucson's a weird place, man. Arizona's a red state. We've got John McCain, Joe Arpaio, and Jeff Flake, but my representative is the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus in the House.
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Yes, you should vote straight ticket for the major political party that most closely aligns with your politics. It is very rare that one of their candidates will stray from the major positions on the party platform. This is the whole point of having political parties.
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