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Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Standing, patiently waiting for Mike Huckabee to speak at the Iowa State Fair. I'll let you know if he advocates for death to all non Protestants.

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Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Mr Hootington posted:

I look forward to more pictures of candidates looking dumb at my states fair. It is our greatest contribution to the election cycle. :patriot:

I'm on my way back home from the fair now (I'm not currently an Iowa, but I was, and will be again decently soon), and got to see three candidate speeches today, as well as the George Washington impersonator in that picture above me. He was awesome, and then Huckabee came out and I shook my head a bunch. A few hours later Jim Webb managed to excite not a single person in the crowd with his boring military dem talk, and then O'Malley brought a bunch of Drake students/volunteers to cheer for him. He sounded better than Webb (low bar), but something struck me as off about him. Like a weird half-way between Bernie and an establishment Dem.

I stood next to W Kamau Bell for half of the O'Malley speech, he was on the scene for CNN. This happened:



edit: Mike Huckabee won the crucial "Iowan" vote when the first thing he mentioned was eating pork chops on a stick for breakfast, lunch, snack, and dinner. Also, a Pizza Ranch shoutout. After that speech (wherein even I laughed a couple times, because he's got a pretty folksy charm), I understand why he does so well in Iowa. In a race where even republican Iowans are mad at Terry Branstad for loving with the education budget, he's about as close to an "Iowa Republican" as you get.

Yoshifan823 fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Aug 13, 2015

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Wait, so is Jim Webb a real person, or was I so heat-stroked out that I dreamed up an entire 20 minute speech about how cool marines are and how everyone should be one? Seriously, General Eisenhower would be proud of that man.

Also, Jim Webb said that his two favorite presidents of the twentieth century are FDR and Reagan, which is some spectacular backflipping.

Also, Jim Webb people (I assume? insomuch as he has people) handed out cards while he was speaking that had his hair about 10 shades more brown than it is currently.

Seriously though, Jim Webb should run for president of 1958.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Vox Nihili posted:

Virtually no one here has any interest in Biden. I've seen a bunch of ironic "Diamond Joe" support but that's not real support. Maybe you're missing the jokes.

I would support Biden if he entered the race, but I'm well aware I'm in the minority on that one. I'm a big fan of his views on unions and his foreign policy, and the stuff I don't like so much about him (drug war/crime, mostly) is something that I think is trending a different way than it was in the 90s when he was Tough on Crime.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Willa Rogers posted:

What about his horrible record on things like the BK bill passed in the aughts? Think he'd turn into an economic populist?

I imagine not having to cater to the credit card companies in Delaware might push him a bit more in the populist direction.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Maybe JEB! and Lindsey Graham can make a little-sad-man suicide pact.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I hope they ask him what Donald Trump is like in person, or if he's going to vote Trump in the Texas primary.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

NotWearingPants posted:

I am sorry the self congratulatory emotion you feel about the death of a rich midde aged white man does not also extend to brown children murdered by drones and bombs.

I'm sorry your candidate is not going to win the nomination because he is only slightly more popular with minorities than a giant gasbag who has a hateboner for Mexicans.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

NotWearingPants posted:

That doesn't sound like you are sorry at all. I think you are being disingenuous.

I'm sorry you think that.

TEAYCHES posted:

he made a good point, youd think the death of his son would make him reflect more on a foreign policy which murders hundreds of thousands and displaces millions of families

When in the last few months since Beau's death has he supported policy that resembles that?

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

Biden opposed both the intervention in Libya that Clinton hawked and got pushed through, and intervention in Syria that never got off the ground. I'd hardly call him a hawk.

No, see, he voted for the Iraq war immediately after 9/11 therefore he wants to kill everyone in the middle east for now and forever.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Smoothrich posted:

Are you the latest convert to Democrats/Liberals 4 Trump 2016? I'm with you buddy if Biden doesn't run. I've wanted Biden to declare a candicacy for the past year because I would feel enthusiastic about supporting him but now that Trump has napalmed his Republican opposition I'm giddy thinking about Biden Vs Trump in a general. Their debates wouldn't even need a moderator just a bartender to keep pouring them whiskey as they shoot the poo poo. They are both animated improvising talkers who go for laughs and insults and probably agree on 90 percent of issues anyways so they would probably have to stick to making fun of each other and pumping up the crowd.

Not only do I think Biden is the most qualified potential nominee to be President and would probably do the best job working with Congress and our international allies, he's probably the only one who could hang with Trump's loose aggrandizing demeanor compared to the Republican and Democratic field of unfunny stiffs hacks spergs dorks criminals communist jews and weirdos. However Biden's edge would be that he can actually turn off the fireworks at a moment's notice, stare at the camera as if he's looking into the voters' eyes and make America cry by talking heart 2 heart about poo poo. Trump is just a clown in comparison. They both got big balls but Biden's got a big heart that would take him All The Way.

I would and will vote for Biden if he runs, but holy poo poo these words make me hate him a little on sheer principle. You are terrible.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

NotJesus posted:

That one doesn't show all the primaries between Iowa and the convention, so I made a chart for all the states and territories:



As you can see, things will really pick up after the first four primaries (IA, NH, SC, NV). That's when it might be difficult for someone without a good ground game (Trump, for instance) to be everywhere at once.

EDIT: Also, this one isn't a pie chart either.

This is the greatest chart I've ever seen in my life

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless



Hooray for independent theatre?

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Montasque posted:



Election2016.jpg

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

I want this pin and another like it, but with Trump face and "In your guts, you know he's nuts".

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Jewel Repetition posted:

Do whatever it takes to protect our nation's librarians from traveling salesmen imo.

Well you got trouble my friend
Right here I said trouble
Right here in New York City
Why sure I'm a 'publican
Certainly mighty proud to say
I'm always mighty proud to say it
I consider the hours I spend
With a gun in my hand are golden
Help you cultivate race wars
And a hot hand and a keen eye
Did ya ever take a gun outside
Concealed and strapped to yourself
Til you see a muslim shot?
But just as I say it takes
Judgement, brains and authority
To step in and save the day
I say that any boob
Can regulate
Take guns from our pockets
And I say that's wrong!
The first big step
On the road to deg-ra-day
First assault rifle bans on the West Coast
Then they take my pistol!
And the next thing you know
Your son is laying on the ground
Yelling "please don't shoot!"
And listening to some big Islamic Muslim
Hear him tell about jihad fightin'
Not a wholesome Christian man, no
But a race where they yell "allhalu Akbar!"
Like to see some stuck up liberal-boy
Take my guns after that! Makes my blood boil!
Well I should say,
Now friends let me tell you what I mean.
You got one, two, three, four, five, six
Bullets through their temple
Bullets that mark the diff'rence between
An American and a Brown
With a capitol B and that rhymes with G
And that stands for guns!

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

oystertoadfish posted:

we've taken evangelicals for granted as a high-turnout demographic for a few cycles but that hasn't always been true, i don't think

maybe the gop manages to piss them off at the same time it pisses off the non-religious base and/or the establishment. that'd be funny

In Iowa it has, certainly. Remember, Rick Santorum came out of (relatively) loving nowhere in 2012 to win Iowa. In hindsight, it's just him reaching his peak, but Huck won in Iowa in 2008, so evangelicals clearly have some impact there.

I don't think carson winning is out of the question in Iowa. I don't think it will mean much in the long run, but if we get as brutal an attack on Ted Cruz as I see when I close my eyes and wish, Carson could sneak back up, especially if he says some particularly Jesus-y stuff in the next month or so.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

etalian posted:

He got paid $900 dollars for being part of the Trump focus group.

poo poo, for $900 I'll say whatever you want me to about trump.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Lancelot posted:

Rules of Senate

So, could Cruz just sit there and refuse to acknowledge anyone, thus grinding the Senate completely to a halt? I bet he thinks he could do that.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I just don't see the GOP loving over Trump at the convention (thus giving us an extraordinarily wrathful Trump splitting the vote in the greatest Independent run of all time) for Ted loving Cruz. That option is just as toxic to the establishment and down ticket races as just nominating Trump.

Yeah. The establishment right now should be desperate to pump one of Jeb, Rubio, or Christie up, but if it comes down to it, I honestly think they'd rather have Trump than Cruz. For every bridge that Trump has burned with the GOP, Cruz has stood on that bridge and pissed off of it into the river for a few years now while his cronies set C4 underneath to be exploded at the time of his choosing.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I think Ted Cruz just had to sniff back tears on stage talking about "The Reagan Revolution".

I had to hold back vomit myself.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Presidential Candidates who have been endorsed by former Presidential Candidates:

Donald Trump
Jeb Bush

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
ahahahaha Trump talking about Rubio putting on makeup "with a trowel"

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I seriously don't get why we are still laughing. The guy literally wants to put Muslims on a registry and build an actual border wall. Keep laughing when he starts polling up ten in Ohio in the general.

Donald Trump is literally a less scary presidential candidate than Rubio or Cruz.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Wow Rubio does not know how to do things on the fly does he. He said all this poo poo about six hours ago.

I thought CNN was playing a repeat, but nope, Rubio is doing his lovely stand-up about Donald Trump mixed in with his rear end in a top hat policy. Again.

I hope Donald Trump shits down his throat, metaphorically and/or literally.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
"A con artist is someone who identifies people who are struggling and promises them that they will be able to turn things around" - Marco Rubio, somehow not about the Republican Party as a whole.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'm sure Marco watched a lot of Dane Cook and Kevin Hart to give these speeches. He sounds like a bad imitation of a stand-up when he makes those Twitter jokes.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

He looks like a man who has yelled the French equivalent of the n-word at some poor waiter at least once.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

THA TITTY THRILLER posted:

Five Republican candidates for President enter a utility closet...

Diametrically opposed, Foes

They emerge with a compromise, having opened doors that were

Previously closed, Bros

The neurosurgeon emerges with unprecedented financial power
A bunch of cash he can shape however he wants
The Cubans emerge with the nation’s capital
And here’s the pièce de résistance

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Louisgod posted:

So what are the chances Cruz and Rubio carve into Trump's supposed guaranteed delegate count? Seems like most are projecting Trump sweeps the delegates and gets enough to get the nomination, but is there a chance he doesn't and forces a brokered convention? Please say yes, it's my fetish

He's gonna sweep the states, but definitely not sweep the delegates. That would require him to hit above 50% in most states. The predictions I'm seeing put him a few hundred delegates above Cruz/Rubio, who will be basically tied thanks to Texas.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Nietzschean posted:

Do we have exit polls yet?

3 minutes on CNN.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

You can see the light in his eyes before he says it. He's thinking "I know my campaign advisor told me this line was terrible, but I thought it up and I've got these people in my hands, they're gonna eat it up". And then he botched the ending.

EDIT:

AceRimmer posted:

Is it just me or is his voice absolutely shot? Ouch.

He had Nikki Haley do half of a stop yesterday because his voice was shot.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Kasich gives no fucks, he's a fairly popular governor who probably has a cushy lobbying job lined up after he's done.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Mr. Flunchy posted:

lol, how???

In that, after all the poor people die, everyone will have healthcare.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Lastgirl posted:

Stevie K with the hot take y'all



This is so dumb.

They've been sowing this for a lot longer than 8 years

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
gently caress you Mitt Romney, Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich will have the same end result as Trump.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I gotta say, Trump is awful, but in the battle between him and the GOPe, he's the more likable of the two.

and that terrifies me

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Now he's just loving with people.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Montasque posted:

Jim "I killed a man" Webb will not vote for Hillary, but he might vote for Donald Trump:
https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/705738614064349185

Remember, this man was running for President as a Democrat.

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Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I would like it to be Hillary because I think she could spin it to make herself look more sympathetic and human. Just imagine: she lived in the White House for 8 years with a philanderer who she couldn't/wouldn't leave, so when she was living in DC on her own, supporting herself, she decided she wanted to be more open to her real self, and that involved finally letting herself be with another woman.

And now, she'd announce it, go on Oprah or Barbara Walters to tell her story, and democrats could vote for the first woman president and the first gay president at once. And with Trump as her opponent, you know he'd cross over that line regularly, repeatedly, and intensely, only making himself look even more boorish than he already does. He'd probably win like, 75% of the white male vote, but the amount of not-conservative women to come out would trounce him anyways.

A Good Sex Scandal.

Fat Lowtax posted:

I kind of think it would be funniest if Bernie hosed the whores.

Bernie would hire an escort for an hour, go in, and tell her that she's worth so much more and talk about other career options, and leave her with a couple hundred bucks for a plane ticket back to her parents, a letter of recommendation to potential employers and an offer to have her live in a spare room in his house if she ever needs it, along with his phone number and "you can call me any time, don't worry".

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