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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:http://www.businessinsider.com/jeb-bush-marco-rubio-poll-2015-6 Fun fact: the call center I work at collects the data for NBC/WSJ polls. I have to talk to these people 5 days a week.
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Mordiceius posted:Hah! I got called about a week ago for that poll! Then I, or someone I work with, talked to you!
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I will say this about Trump; I don't think I've ever seen a presidential candidate less willing to compromise his position for the sake of votes And that, good sir, is why he'll win the Republican Nomination.
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Hey, what if Trump ends up spoiling the Republicans? I don't see him backing down from the race, period, and when he fails to secure the nomination, he might just run as an Independent or form his own Trump Party. Definitely seems like a Trump move.
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Chris Christie posted:Can anyone tell me in what states assisted suicide is now legal? TIA. Oregon and Washington IIRC. Why? Edit: Forgot Vermont.
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Brannock posted:Consider myself informed, thanks for the link. Though I should note that the full-findings tab doesn't seem to mention race as a factor. Percentage of occurrence of homosexuality in a given population isn't influenced by race. As the study was merely looking at relative socioeconomic status between sexual minorities and heterosexuals and, presumably, the racial breakdown was equivalent between both groups, race isn't really all that relevant to the study design. Perhaps a variable in whether or not an individual is better or worse off, but still mostly irrelevant considering you aren't more likely or less likely to be gay if you're White as opposed to if you're Black for example.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:06
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Jul 16, 2015 23:48
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Feather posted:Democrats rejoice at a near-certain lock on POTUS, with a very likely big down-ticket surge. And if Trump wins in the General?
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Jul 16, 2015 23:55
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Dolash posted:I am dying for the next poll or two to come along to see if that 24% lead is just a fluke that didn't have the chance to reflect a shift after his McCain comments, or the tantalizing possibility that it's accurate and Trump will go into the debates with a double-digit lead on Bush. Thing is, McCain is very unpopular with the Republican Base right now for percieved weaknesses on immigration and for failing to beat Obama in 2008. Attacking McCain is a good idea for Trump, especially if he's going full Jingoist to galavanize the border states into supporting him.
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I think my ideal for this election would be Bush getting the Republican nomination with Scott Walker as VP, Trump splitting off into a third party spoiler, causing Hillary Clinton to win the White House with huge numbers, as well as causing a massive down-ticket Blue Surge, winning the House and Senate for the Democrats. Then I want Bernie to stay (D) after the election and get put up as Senate Majority Leader, where he'd actually be able to do something. Either that, or Elizabeth Warren as Majority Leader. Sanders or Warren as Senate Majority Leader would have more power than either of them in the White House, or, for that matter, hypothetical President Hillary Clinton, especially if Hillary wants any chance of re-election.
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Jul 23, 2015 17:26
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Miltank posted:I think Trump is more likely to give us UHC than Hillary. Hillary was pro-Universal Health Care back when she was First Lady and tried to spearhead a campaign to get it through Congress. It's why Republicans call her a Socialist. She'll go for UHC again if she gets to be POTUS; Wall Street doesn't care dick about the Private Insurance Market, and in fact, UHC would save huge banking/financial corporations millions (if not billions) of dollars on employee health benefits.
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Jul 28, 2015 16:27
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I'm voting Bernie Sanders in the primaries, but this whole Hillary Hate Club is way too uncomfortably reminiscent of the Virgin-Whore dichotomy to be anything except covert sexism.
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spacing in vienna posted:Right. People keep sniping in the thread that "oh, criticizing Hillary is MISOGYNISTIC now." Nobody in this thread has been crying sexism about Bernie's record being compared to Hillary's, or people stating reasons they wouldn't vote for her. It's when people criticize Hillary in a misogynistic way that various people have been speaking up. I have faith in you, D&D; you can criticize Hillary without bringing her gender into it. The problem isn't just blatant misogyny, it's also the dogwhistled misogyny that leads people to turn a blind eye to the gendered bias inherent in the language used to condemn her. Because she is an older woman with the charisma of a dead fish, and fairly hawkish views for a Democrat, she gets blasted for being shrill or sociopathic. If there was a male Democrat running for office that had her record, DD would be critical (as we should be), but the attacks would be no where near as scathing and personal.
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Jul 29, 2015 23:34
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Little known fact, Bernie's real first name is Muad'Dib You know, this is the first time you've actually made me laugh. Congratulations.
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Chris Christie posted:Not to mention the new voters Trump will pull into the General Election. You think the polls were bad underestimating Obama's margins of victory? HA, what 'till you see how WRONG the likely voter models are for a general election featuring Donald Trump. Obama got plenty of pop-star votes from idiots who never voted before and won't again, but Trump is an ACTUAL pop-culture star. This time the GOP will get in on those sweet, sweet moron votes. Hell, Democrats ALWAYS win the stupid vote and the loser vote - Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton - they ALL won the poverty-level income and below vote and the high-school drop-out vote by HUGE margins. The Donald is going to TRUMP their performances and turn the stupid loser vote in favor of the GOP nominee. You are literally the most disgusting person I have ever had the misfortune of being even tangentially exposed to. You are what is wrong with this country. You are the reason we are falling behind in science, education and technology. People like you, with your lovely opinions and judgmental attitudes, voting against the common welfare of the American people. Sociology is clear on the subject; stigmatization of individuals with low socioeconomic status are the largest factor limiting the opportunities of individuals trying to escape poverty. Yes, you read that correctly, your attitudes on poverty are why there are so many poor people in this country. I hope you have live on minimum wage some day. That way you'd have some grip on reality.
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Minority voters like Hillary Clinton because they can identify with a perceived struggle: "Hillary Clinton's struggle as a woman in the world of politics, especially one trying to escape from the shadow of her Presidential husband, is one we can relate to. And hopefully, that means she can relate to us in our struggle to make our way in the world at large." This also reduces the impact of corruption: "Hillary Clinton did what she had to do to succeed in politics. If she were a man, she wouldn't have to do these things to get ahead. But she isn't. Thus she draws twice the criticism for her actions and needs to work twice as hard." All this, plus her history as the popular wife of a Democratic Governor in a state like Arkansas and her history with Minority outreach mean she is extremely popular with Minority voters. Sanders on the other hand has limited minority exposure and is from a very white, very educated, Northeastern State. He is non-christian and his rhetoric is stronger on Economic Policy than Social Policy. Minority voters just can't relate to him.
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Pohl posted:Last time, everyone took turns being in the lead. I guess that could still happen, but he is just kicking rear end. States start requiring a loyalty pledge to be on the primary ballot. Trump gets mad and runs Third Party. GOP then tries to run him into the ground as fast as possible so they can go after Hillary. Either that or they plant Child Pornography on his computer or something. Edit: I wouldn't be surprised if they outright assassinated him and blamed it on a minority either. Fox Ironic fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Karpaw posted:Reminder: Dude, not loving cool.
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Uncle Wemus posted:ITS OVER Way too early to predict something like that. Once the Democrat Debates get into gear, we'll start seeing more people pay attention to the Democrat's agenda and thus more moderates and independents will swing back to the left side of the pendulum.
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Spacebump posted:I'm still not sure why people like Carson. He's a foil for Obama; a subdued black man with conservative attitudes and political outsider status. Fake edit: he's also a neurosurgeon
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Sep 21, 2015 22:17
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Feather posted:
The slapfight returns! Seriously though, I support both Bernie and Hillary. DCFADP
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Nonsense posted:David Cameron hosed A Dead Pig. David Cameron Was Fellated by a Pig's Severed Head
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:I'm sure the people that whine about draft dodgers would be more than happy with their kid being forcibly shipped off to the Middle East if it ever came to that It ain't about logical consistency, it's about perception.
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Montasque posted:Trump's support looks like it's hit a ceiling in the low to mid 20's. Seconded. He won't pick up anyone new since his media saturation and presence is near 100%. He'll start hemorrhaging poll numbers and stabilize around 15%-20%, with Carson and Fiorina going back down to around the 10% mark, especially as Rubio and Cruz start getting more air time as the field narrows. Their natural charm will attract voters away from the Outsider wing (especially Cruz who is seen as an outsider despite his presence in the senate). This will place the outsider political share at 35%-40% of the GOP primary voters. That leaves 60% for the establishment candidates. With Walker out as well as Rand and Christie on the ropes, my guess is Rubio and Cruz will pick up voters, though I don't know if JEB can gain much in the way of new numbers. By the time the Primaries start, my personal guess is we'll be looking at, for our top six: Rubio 20, Trump 19, Cruz 14, Jeb 12, Carson 10, Fiorina 10, with everybody else gobbling up the remaining percentages. Edit: Forgot about Kasich. In the event of a complete Jeb and/or Rubio meltdown, we'll see Kasich start polling a lot better. Other than that, he's pretty hosed. Fox Ironic fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Sep 24, 2015 |
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So, if I understand Donald Trump's immigration plan correctly, he plans to deport all 11 million illegal immigrants in this country. If done over the course of 4 years, this would have to occur at a rate of 7,500 immigrants per day. The only way this would be possible is with large scale implementation of US military capacity. This process could be expedited under the Defense Act, which would allow said deportees to be classified as enemies of the state by the Commander in Chief. This would also have the effect of authorizing the use of both nonlethal and lethal force against said deportees. This is literally the only way Trump could achieve his stated goal. Assuming an extremely conservative estimate of 1% deportation related casualties (including illness, dehydration and injury, both accidental and deliberate), with 10% of those casulties resulting in fatalities, we are looking at 100,000 injuries and perhaps 10,000 dead as a result. The social effects of this mass deportation by the military would be catastrophic. Not that I think this scenario is realistic, but this would be the only way to deport that many people. A vote for Trump is a vote for this scenario.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:loving dead pigs - it connotes excitement! 2016 Republican Presidential Primary: loving Dead Pigs - It Connotes Excitement!
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Rubio should bring a bottle of it the the next debate and then publicly thank Trump for the "campaign contribution."
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Tricky D posted:Ironically, Ben Carson is the ideal establishment candidate. His lack of political experience indicates that he will have to rely on advisers to govern; and, because he is a political outsider, his cabinet and staff will essentially be chosen for him by the party. The traits that make him the darling of the "silent majority" anti-establishment wing of the party also make him the perfect sort of empty suit candidate that the Republican party leadership desires. The best thing the establishment GOP can do for itself is let Carson alone and cross their fingers. If Carson wins Iowa, I expect he might get a call from Prince Reibus of the RNC Kingdom offering him the position of Vice President if/when Rubio gets the nom, provided Carson can tank Trump for them. If he can do that, they'll dump Rubio for him. I am starting to think the only thing that can stump the Trump is a brain dead neurosurgeon. Fox Ironic fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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I have a prediction: Trump is going to get tied up attacking Carson in the next debate, which will boost Carson's numbers with GOP voters who hate Trump. Fiorina will have another strong showing at the debate, stealing some Trump support back and showing another peak. Rubio will do well without the Trump heat and get a boost as well, stealing numbers from Bush, Kasich and Christie. Trump will fall to sub-20 poll numbers, probably to a tie with Rubio. Caron and Fiorina will lead, causing Trump to throw a bitch-fit of epic proportions, claiming a GOP conspiracy to take him down, tearing up his pledge and running independent.
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Montasque posted:Mein Trumpf dropped today. In this excerpt Trump is calling for a Neo-New Deal: Lol, something I agree with Trump on. I hope Hillary and/or Bernie get behind a New New Deal.
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PT6A posted:If you support abortions only in the case of rape and incest, I think you're actually a worse person than someone who bans all abortions. The latter is based on a sincere belief that fetuses are human life, and if you believe that, it's consistent to ban it regardless of the circumstances of conception. Allowing a rape/incest exemption is nothing more than trying to punish women for having consensual sex, which disgusts me even more than the thought of banning abortion for any reason but to protect the life of the mother. This is exactly my position on people who have opinions about abortion. Also, we share the same opinion regarding abortion. Are you me?
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Lancelot posted:10% of voters see Jeb favourably but don't think he can fix it. He just needs to punch Trump in the face at the next debate.
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I'm from a Jewish background (my parents and I are Reconstructionist, the rest of my family is Conservative). I've never celebrated Christmas outside of the occasional Christmas party at a friend's house. I understand the Merry Christmas thing for the week of Christmas but, beyond that, the whole Christmas for two months thing completely ruins my winter by reminding me how much 60% of this country wants me to assimilate completely. Like, between the month of Easter and the two months of Christmas, it's a quarter of the year dedicated to reminding me that I'm a cultural and religious outsider in my own country. A country that, supposedly, is a secular country that supports multiculturalism. And all the talking heads complain about the "War on Christmas."
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Doomtalker posted:SO, you're Reconstructionist. I gotta ask, how proactively Reconstructionist are you? I ask because I once dated one, and she couldn't wait to pave the Temple Mount in the name of bringing the Messiah. Uh, anti-Zionist Reconstructionist? Reconstructionist Judaism in this instance does not refer to rebuilding the temple, but rather progressively advancing society towards an egalitarian ideal and living in harmony with God and nature.
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crazy cloud posted:Boosted that's just pathetic. Supporting Trump has always been supporting Trumpstallnacht, there was maybe a week at the start of the campaign where you could plead ignorance that you didn't know he really *meant* it. Boosted's freakout all but confirms the inevitability of Lord President Trump. Dehumanize yourself, kill your parents and face the bloodshed. The Black Shirts are coming.
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crazy cloud posted:Agreed. It is done. Hail Satan. Hail Satan! DCFADP
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meristem posted:What? So far, the debates helped destroy Jeb, weed out the also-rans, and prop up Fiorina and Carson. Without them, the field would have been much more segmented than it is. They had a huge effect. Don't do it. That thread is neurotoxic.
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So does anyone want to discuss how both Trump and Carson have proposed secret police and/or deportation squads? The operative word people are looking for here is Authoritarianism, not Fascism. Fascism is a fairly specific ideology, one that Trump's rhetoric matches (though not the rest of the GOP).
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2016 Republican Primary: Operation Wetback 2 - Electric Boogaloo.
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a rowdy mullet posted:100,000 hours of time-out, good night sweet prince Probated for 11 years. drat.
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