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MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Pinterest Mom posted:

Nope. Earliest filing deadline for an independent candidate is Texas, May 9th. They need 80k signatures from people who didn't participate in either party primary, though, so the time to get that effort started is "pretty soon".

https://ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016

Can't a candidate just pay $10k and get his name on the list?

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MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

skaboomizzy posted:

If you think there is a real, functional, national Republican party; the joke's on you.

The grassroots have risen up with pitchforks to take over the party and they're spouting propaganda from Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Levin, and whatever other bullshit they listen to for twelve hours a day while driving in their truck all day for a government-subsidized job. Trump is going for the economy/nationalist angle, Cruz is going for the culture-war, but they're both after the I HATE THIS WORLD AS IT EXISTS NOW AND WILL BECOME BLARGH vote. Kasich would be an uber-conservative in 1992, but he's a milquetoast moderate in this race so :lol:

It's a dead party. Gingrich's revolution in the mid-90s at least had a legislative agenda that voters could read and either agree or disagree with. The GOP right now is a toddler in the canned food aisle running up and down knocking poo poo off the shelves. There's no agenda, no plan, no coherent governing philosophy, just LET'S gently caress UP EVERYTHING LOL TANTRUM TIME.

They're going to be stuck with Trump (the white trash id) or Cruz (the American Taliban) and they're going to lose by, like, a lot. Because as abhorrent as Hillary Clinton is, she's a far sight better than either of these two assholes. Reince Priebus is going to just shoot up an historic amount of heroin and drink a handle of Evan Williams to avoid being connected with this shitshow.

Then the fun starts. Was the GOP candidate too conservative, or not conservative enough? Spoiler alert, they'll say he wasn't conservative enough (regardless if it's Trump or Cruz)

Someone will try to launch a third party of the Coal Belt, Libertarians in the Rockies region, and Western States social liberals that will fail massively because :lol: at any third party overcoming first-past-the-post voting.

This is beautiful, but there's no chance the GOP will fracture over this shitshow. We'll just see more "independents" who uniformly vote Republican.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Just stick the barrel in your mouth on that stage and pull the trigger already, Cruz, your obituary has already been written.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Merry Reagan Christmas everyone.

Merry Reagan Christmas to all.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

quote:

‘Guys with big hands’: Top GOP ad man launches campaign to ‘unsell’ Trump

SAN FRANCISCO —After decades of selling leading GOP candidates, political ad guru Bob Gardner — who has created TV campaign spots for Dick Cheney, Gerald Ford, Mitt Romney, George H.W. Bush, and Arnold Schwarzenegger — is drawing the line at helping Donald Trump.

The San Francisco-based star adman, a loyal Republican, says he’s launched a provocative online campaign to “unsell” the GOP candidate’s nomination to Republican voters. Gardner's new “Why Trump” ad campaign, now up on YouTube, aims to reach GOP voters with an argument that Trump is damaging to the party and the country.
One 30-second spot in the campaign, which Gardner provided to POLITICO this week, shows a lithe young woman doing yoga and talking straight to the camera.

“I like macho guys — take-charge, competent guys — guys with big hands. Real men,’’ she says. “But real men don’t go around dissing Muslims and Mexicans. ... They’re not bullies. And real men don’t talk about their size. … Guys like Donald Trump who brag about how big they are? You can’t be president, Donny boy. You just don’t measure up.”

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/california/2016/05/8599019/guys-big-hands-top-gop-ad-man-launches-campaign-unsell-trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsao8UlfXho

Mother of poo poo, this is the best campaign season ever.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Blasmeister posted:

When he's running on a platform of "I'm paying for my own campaign and not taking corporate money like those other guys", it should mean you don't immediately get all the corporate money you can at the first opportunity to pay for it all in retrospect. But this is Trump, somehow he will continue to claim self-funding and his supporters will assume that money comes with no strings attached or Trump will have lied to them to get it and he's totally sticking up for the little guy just you wait and see.

Trump has proven that policy statements don't loving matter when you're running as an authoritarian strongman. From an article linked earlier:

quote:

“I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Pick posted:

No president could get us out of the Middle East, period. And better drone strikes than carpet bombs. Sorry you want a loving genie.

:agreed:

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

I just noticed the slight cock bulge on toon Michelle. Goddamn that's some classy political humor.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


This is exactly why early head to head polls showing Sanders doing better than Clinton vs Trump are meaningless. The general election would be one constant drone of "SOCIALIST COMRADE SANDERS FOR FOOD LINES 2016" resulting in an embarrassing loss for the Democrats, and the GOP can't help but point out how shameful it was even this close.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Yeah except there's a lot more people now who would be excited about free food then there are oldsters who automatically clutch their pearls at the utterance of an ancient enemies name.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


This is a good article.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Quidam Viator posted:

lol nothing matters

It's easy to see what Trump is doing. His pivot is all about the Supreme Court justice. He floats a list of ridiculously conservative nominees, and banks off of the GOP STILL holding that seat open until after the election. He doesn't have to do any work, which makes it a real Trump play; he just gets people to vote for him for the same reason everyone in DnD said it was so important to vote for Hillary. Because it decides the balance of the court.

Meanwhile, the Cruz assholes can nail whatever lovely planks they want onto an irrelevant platform. Trump will be Trump. He'll say whatever the gently caress he wants. And he knows he's got a captive audience. In the end, Trump has made this election all about energy and narrative, because he knows how to read this crowd we call the American electorate. gently caress what you know about American elections: you'd better start watching reality TV if you want any predictive ability to talk about how this race is going to play out.

Remember: policy doesn't matter. polls don't matter. favorability doesn't matter. gaffes don't matter. flipflopping doesn't matter. being an rear end in a top hat doesn't matter. You can make a fair case that fear and terror matter, and Trump is hammering that button far more dramatically and effectively than the other side.

but in the end, remember, nothing matters.

This is nihilistic and insulting to the intelligence of the American electorate.

I think it very well might be awfully accurate though.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


I want to toss these guys into an MRI, definitively locate the part of the brain allows cultists to perceive a 69 year old, fat, comb-overed man as a verile sex god worth emulating, then I want to set that MRI on fire.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

paranoid randroid posted:

blacks (assorted)

Republican Assortment of Blacks Caucus

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Filthy rapist Mexicans aren't a race, liberal :smug:

Bigoted. Fawning Babyhands fanboys are bigoted. Get it right.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


I really hope the debates are 90 minutes of the moderators playing Vine videos of MidgetDigits contradicting himself. He'll counter that words aren't real then pivot to calling Shilldog a oval office. He will get zero applause because the real debates won't incentivize WWE-style grandstanding.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Not a Step posted:

Certainly no hoverhand from Bill

I really want to live in the universe where Bill facefucked Toddler Grip's wife on her wedding day.

Hell, I'd settle for someone in the Shilldizzle's camp tweeting "I'm shocked at the outrageous rumors about the former president tonsil boinking The Orange One's latest spouse, which I can neither confirm nor deny the veracity of."

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


Bernie is guzzling his own Kool-Aid.

I don't know why I expected a sorta-kinda socialist to be more realistic, but welp!

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Darkman Fanpage posted:

lmao shut the gently caress up as halfway crooks. qaddafi brought out anti-aircraft guns to fire on peaceful protesters in tripoli. don't try and paint the people he murdered as islamists.

No one remembers the lead up to Libya. No one remembers that Gaddafi sent his supporters to literally "cleanse the city of Benghazi" of rebels. No one remembers that Europe and the Arab League condoned and participated in the conflict, no one remembers that Obama (and Clinton by extension) specifically relegated the US to a support and logistics roll.

All that people remember of Libya is that one diplomatic building got overrun and Clinton caused it to happen. A thousand dicks in your "history and facts."

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Slate Action posted:

I honestly believe that if Kristol got killed they would ask Trump about it on CNN and he would go "yes it's terrible, but you know who really kills a lot of people? Illegal immigrants" and that would be the end of the discussion and nothing would continue to matter.

At this point MidgetDigits could say anything, so long as it follows the syntax of "some people are saying" or "I'm just asking a rhetorical question about x raping/murdering/finger loving y" and the nightly news would echo his message with only a modicum of dissent.

Trump has mastered the art of gish gallop. When fact checking can't be preemptively counter-refuted Trump wins.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

paranoid randroid posted:

Donald holds the news cycle by the throat, and should start taking requests. call now to tell Donald what you want to see all the idiot talking heads yammering about.

I want to see Trump take a hard stance against beans in chili, including a throwaway line that beans are, of course, Mexican fare.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


Just once I'd like to see Trump get called out for his Palin-esque level of ignorance. But he'd probably just counter that the journalist was a horse finger-banging loser and his supporters would have a couple yucks and nothing would come of it.

Still entertaining to read journalists from Politico to The Hollywood Reporter barely contain their contempt for the man.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Three Olives posted:

This is low even for Trump.

This is the type of scummy, typical con artist stuff that even GOP voting yokels should be able to comprehend. I hope MidgetDigits gets hammered on it.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Bernice Anders posted:

This time he's stumped for sure!! This one will stick, I promise!!

Strongman sycophant psychology is as odd as it's fascinating.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Maybe he's acting Presidential by insinuating his dick is big, too?

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

A full 29% of Sanders supporters still think he will win, another 11% aren't sure. Next week there's a good chance Sanders could drop out, and at the very least we will see Clinton cross the delegate finish line before the polls close in CA.

With that final portion of voters acknowledging Clinton will be the nominee, I think we're going to see a nice bounce for Clinton before the conventions. After the conventions, I expect the undecideds to drop off sharply, but still remain higher than the last 5 elections.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

I hope they continue that trend. No more "Trump denies some stupid thing he said," but rather a complete "Trump denies some stupid thing he said on tape, which we have and will run footage of"

Make the banners taller or something, just cram that whole thing on screen for the channel flipping yokels to see.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Maybe ToddlerGrip could take the FDA-workaround style (chicken "wyngz" not wings) and call it Trump Unyversitee.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


gently caress me, I actually thought that was a funny joke, not an actual opinion. This guy's nuts.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


Goddamn, 90% of this campaign's attack ads are just going to be playing clips of Combover Toughman either contradicting himself or acting like the clownshoes bigot he is.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

For anyone interested in keeping track of Combover Toughman's foreign policy this week, he's gone back to saying Qadhafi should have been taken out, just, you know, better. Because Benghazi.

Politico posted:

Trump shifts position on Libya
By KYLE CHENEY 06/05/16 08:57 AM EDT

Donald Trump reversed himself again on Libya on Sunday, saying in an interview that he would have authorized a “surgical” strike to take out Muammar Qadhafi, after months of telling voters the country would have been better off if the dictator were still alive.

“I didn't mind surgical. And I said surgical. You do a surgical shot and you take him out,” Trump said in an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

It’s his latest reversal on a crucial element of the Obama foreign policy. Trump has spent most of the 2016 campaign contending that a bungled Obama intervention in Libya is proof that the United States should’ve stayed out altogether.

"I never discussed that subject. I was in favor of Libya?” Trump said at a Texas debate in February. “We would be so much better off if Qadhafi would be in charge right now."

That statement itself was a reversal from 2011, when Trump in a video blog argued that Qadhafi was slaughtering his citizens and that the United States should, “on a humanitarian basis, immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly, very surgically, very effectively, and save the lives." (NATO intervened on behalf of Qadhafi's foes, and anti-Qadhafi forces captured and killed him in October 2011.)

Pressed Sunday by John Dickerson about the shifts, Trump said, “I was for something, but I wasn't for what we have right now,” Trump said. He added, “I wasn't for what happened. Look at the way — I mean look at with Benghazi and all of the problems that we've had. It was handled horribly. … I was never for strong intervention. I could have seen surgical where you take out Qadhafi and his group.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/libya-donald-trump-qadhafi-223911#ixzz4Aj7SrWXo

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

as halfway crooks posted:

"stopping an authoritarian from putting down an uprising is definitely worth it even if the country turns into an isis-run failed state and even if it ruins relations with russia for decades and even if it also fucks up our chance of winding down the shitshow in syria! because anti aircraft gun oh my god thats a big terrible gun" - forums user "madjackal"

I actually want to watch the mental gymnastics involved in justifying why Itty Bitty Phalanges is right to support Libya intervention here.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

crazy cloud posted:

2016 GOP Collapse: Maybe you could recruit DEEZ NUTS

Quotin' it because I'm down.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

It's sort of funny that Paunchy Bestwords could insult millions of Latinos and be rewarded with front runner levels of support, but insult one single guy and a line had been crossed.

It's like everyone could only see how ugly bigotry is when directed at a real person and not an abstract like "illegal aliens."

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


Bernie Broing in action.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

There's no chance the GOP will jettison Tangerine Strongman, no matter how much of a clown shoes campaign he puts together or if he starts calling sitting judges "beaners" or whatever. All they can do at this point is condemn individual paroxysms of bigotry while shrugging their shoulders about what options they have.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

rear end cobra posted:

I just want to read the tell-all books on this shitshow

The guys behind Game Change had a great chapter on Trump in their 2012 sequel, Double Down. They captured a pretty good facsimile of what Trump's thought process probably was.

I think they're going to be spoiled for choice for pissed off insiders willing to leak every sordid detail and every meltdown of this shitshow.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Kurt_Cobain posted:

'No one loves the disabled more than I do, we have the best disableds in the world'



Sometimes I stop and say the words "Republican nominee for the presidency of the United States, Donald Trump" out loud.

Then I shake my head in disbelief and comfort myself with thoughts of what the electoral college map is going to look like this year.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004


Trump is a waste.

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MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Bass Bottles posted:

Oh my god, r/politics is like 95% anti-Hillary propaganda right now lmao

Is this a Bernie-bro freak out or business as usual?

Please don't quote this and just say "yes" tia

It's steadily gone from 40% Bernie-positive delusional submissions, 30% anti-Clinton, 20% anti-Trump to no poo poo 85% PHOTO OF HILLARY: SPIT ON YOUR SCREEN NOW as the primary process has gone on.

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