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El Estrago Bonito posted:I want to say this but I knew some guys who ran games for years (some of them even once posted on these hallowed forums) that had poo poo of this caliber happen basically every session. It didn't help that one of them studied German culture and literature extensively and so was obsessed with running D&D games that always devolved into explorations of nihilism and the nature of good and evil. There was a campaign where two of the players managed to successfully generate 3.5 characters who were Power Rangers and it took the DM ~3 sessions to notice it. I feel there is a leap of logic in the above. Why would a game the focuses on the exploration of nihilism and the nature of good and evil lead to making power rangers as PCs and other poo poo of "halfling-hiding-in-whore's rear end" caliber?
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dr_ether posted:Haha. The minis ruin the immersion? The fact that the minis you can get are purposefully designed for that setting? Judging from John Wicks' 3e review in the old grog thread, use of minis was looked down upon in the early 2000s as well. I wasn't a gamer then and this is assuming John Wick wasn't just talking for himself, but, if it's true, I wonder why. Is it s cost thing? Is it an attempt to distance the hobby from wargames? For people who were into GNS theory, was it because it limited narrative power? Or, at least, was perceived to?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Is/was Dungeon World ever directly marketed as being an OSR-type game? I mean, I've used that description myself: "it recreates the ~~feeling~~ of playing D&D when you were 8 years old", but I don't think that it ever makes that claim itself, and I don't know how you'd ever mistake it for being a literal OSR game and then claim false advertising when it doesn't actually have descending AC or random encounter tables or whatever. Dungeon World: A Game with Modern Rules & Old-School Style Sage LaTorra and Adam Koebel posted:Dungeon World emerged from our love of two things—modern game design and old-school RPG action. We wanted to create a game with the wide-eyed excitement and wonder of your first time playing a fantasy RPG and rules that draw on a long history of innovation and creativity. The best of both worlds! Monte Cooke featured quote on their kickstarter page posted:
Yeah, they do say it a little bit, but they never say OSR.
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FMguru posted:Goodman Games has something to sell you! Ok...what? Like, what even? Why not just sell them as DCC dice or just weird dice? This is terrible marketing.
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Oh God, I just noticed the dice are black. Oh God.
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Chaltab posted:What does he even care what "all we people" say about him in the first place, geez. You say crazy poo poo on the internet, someone's going to point out that it's crazy. As funny as this is I wonder if the paywall on TradGames should go back up for Pundowski's ease of mind. I think it's more the fact that most grogs (don't know if Pudowiski is one) are libertarian to some degree and, as such, believe a completely unregulated market is best market.
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KittyEmpress posted:A friend of mine was organizing a Pathfinder campaign for our skype group, when one of the members gave this amazing quote To give you the opposite end of the spectrum, members of my gaming club and I were waiting for our room to open up. There was new guy there who liked AD&D 2e, but wasn't a grog about it. He just said it was his preferred system when we asked what games he played. He also mentioned being into some newer systems as well. Cue some of our residents 3.P grogs trying to make him feel "retarded" (the word they used which I've told them not to use before) for liking the game and generally being douchey before I stepped in and changed the subject to what was the coolest thing that ever happened to him in a game. Only bringing it up because I thought it was funny we had almost mirror like experiences.
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Lightning Lord posted:This reminds me of when a guy I used to know was making Dragon Ball Z d20 and had obtuse rules for charging your aura, new spells called "Energy Beam, Generic" and Saiyan and Namekian races with +5 ECL and poo poo like that. So I told him about games like Shonen Final Burst and Tenra Bansho Zero and hell, if he wanted to stick to d20 he could just play around with Mutants and Masterminds. He absolutely blew up at me, he was loving livid that I would even suggest that. I would do the same if someone got me to buy Shonen Final Burst. No, but, really, it's cool if you like one system and only one system, but I never get people who act like the suggestion of a different system is heresy. I've met a few guys like that and it perplexes me every time. If we're sharing weird IRL gaming stories, 1) I was trying to get some newbies into tabletop roleplaying. They were interested in D&D and I was explaining to them how to have fun and be creative. I decided to mention how I think its best to say "yes" to creative ideas since it helps people feel involved and can makes things more fun. I was immediately interrupted by someone who decided to tell me how I was a pussy and should learn to be more cruel and brutal to my players! Or something equally moronic. 2) Once, we were just playing a simple game of Savage Worlds with a new guy. This guy decided to play a girl PC. No problem, I do it all the time. This guy decides to explain her three measurements when he introduces her during the round table. Ok, getting worried. The guy can't help, but fetishist-ly describing how every part of her body contorts (with emphasis on her boobs and rear end) whenever she does anything. Getting creeped out as is everyone else. His character tries to forcibly blow my character. We ask him to leave. Tried to forget that happened. 3) Mentioned this in the old grog thread, but once went to a guys house who was a gun nut libertarian for a game. He just went to an army surplus store and decided to wear two bandoleers full of ammo over a bullet proof vest with a real combat knife in a holster. He kept an ammo cache full of bullets in the middle of the sofa the whole game. At one point, he pulls out a dummy grenade without saying anything and pulls the pin then calls us all pussies for thinking it was real. I left the game the next day and never talked to that guy again. 4) Brought my copy of 4e books to my local gaming club. The local pathfinder GM tried to throw them in the garbage. Covok fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Mendrian posted:Man I have got to hear more about this. How does one try to throw away something in the garbage? How do you even sheepishly respond when a person discovers you trying to destroy their property? "Oops, I figured you didn't want these 80 dollars worth of books, sorry"? There isn't much to tell, honestly. I put the books out on the table because I agreed to bring in my roleplaying books for newbies to look at. I turn my back for a bit then turn back to see their gone. So, I look around real quick to see what happened and I see the local Pathfinder GM going towards the garbage with them. So I just go "Mate, what are you doing?" "Oh, uh, nothing." I walk up to him and go, "Why were you opening the garbage can and hovering my books over them?" "Well, uh, just uh, no reason." "Whatever, just put them back on the table." Then he did and that was that. gradenko_2000 posted:I'm rather more astounded that someone cares about goddamn edition warring enough to try to destroy someone else's property. Lookie Here
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ProfessorCirno posted:
Nah, you can nest quotes on SA as I demonstrated above.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I tried, but it's just people wanking over each other on who roleplays harder. Doesn't anyone play elfgames just to have an excuse to shoot the poo poo with friends with a couple of hours and quip wisecracks at each other? Of course there are people like that. I'm one of those guys. This reminds me, though, of something IRL from a friend. I was talking with my friend IRL and said something similar to the above when my friend mentioned a thread like that. He just looked at me confused and said he honestly could not understand why you would ever do that. He wondered why you wouldn't just do something else if all you wanted to do was hang out despite me explaining that sharing an activity you like with others who also like it is just a way of hanging out.
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Mormon Star Wars posted:Paladins are Heroes, Archers are sidekicks, simple as that. Because, never in the history of literature, has there been a heroic archer...
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Halloween Jack posted:A heroic archer, maybe, but one with holy powers? No way! It is a little know fact that archers were one of the most stringent atheists of the ancient world. (sarc)
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Last year, my friend tried to run a Dungeon World game with some friends from my college gaming club. It went well enough. His desire to include an initiative system may count as grog, but isn't why I'm telling this story. This year, one of the guys from that game decided to run a Dungeon World game. Oh boy, 1) This isn't really grog in itself, but he is trying to run it ONLY using the player aid packet. The one with the basic moves and class character sheets. I offered to give him the real book, but he openly refused saying "Well, monsters are just like numbers, right?" This guy, according to players, has been giving out "power-ups like candy" in a game, for the uninitiated, you should never get more than a +3 bonus unaided. 2) A friend of mine is in his game. At one point, her character saved orphans as part of her quest. When she asked for a reward, the GM thought she was being greedy and turned her arm to gold as a punishment. No defy danger. Just happened. Because GM thought asking for a reward for saving orphans is "greedy." 3)Same friend. She loves to bake. She is very good at it. She thought of making the group some food. The GM hates chocolate. Instead of politely wording his request to her like a normal person -- perhaps something like "I hope this isn't rude since you're doing this just to be nice, but I'd prefer if you didn't put chocolate in at least some" --, he instead threatens to have her character lose her legs if she puts chocolate in the pastries. The pastries she is making for the group out of kindness. Now, I took that as a joke. She didn't. She made it very clear that she believed he'd do it. I can't read his mind, but the fact a player feels that way says a lot. Also, honestly, the GM is a huge dickbag so he might have meant it.
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:Is being trapped at a 4th grader level of being able to tell a girl you like her count as grog? I doubt that's the reason for 2 reasons 1) I've seen him dating some girl though I think it didn't work out and 2) my friend has a boyfriend already. He is stuck a 4th grade level of maturity in many other ways. For example, he is stuck at the "I got to be able to do everything on my own and never show weakness ever even in tabletop things (apparently this is another reason he refused my offer of a core book, according to my friend)" maturity level thing. It's so obnoxious especially because I work with him.
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Where were these character options available? I don't remember them in the RC?
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Mormon Star Wars posted:God, how could I forget the Kopru? One of the classes is this: Why is this not core? Why is this not core? Also, maybe I'm an idiot, but was the link before just a list or did it also have the class material with it? I couldn't find the later?
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Chill la Chill posted:That's too bad to hear what happened to Mikan. Though it's not surprising since GG operates in the same way. I miss Mikan and that other guy who used to post about King Arthur a lot. She still shows up in #Badwrongfun from time to time if you want to chat with her. If you want an anime game that is better than BESM in everyway, try OVA. I was looking up reviews for a game I was interested in and came across this tidbit: "Good Layout is dumbing down games for simpletons and teenager newbies posted:The interior design, however, doesn’t even go this far. The choice to use bold colours to box things off and colour-code the sections strikes me as a massive dumbing down of what isn’t a game for simpletons or teenage newbies.
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Attestant posted:Sometimes I think that 4e would have been better received, if it didn't name and communicate the four roles so clearly. Like just make everything mechanically identical, but never mention damage dealing Strikers, tanking Defenders, supporting Leaders and controlling Controllers. At the most have those little flaviour decriptions go "Hey, fighter really likes to be in melee and frontline for his wizard buddy!" I disagree. The main issue most people really had with 4e was how divorced it was from 3e. Not that 4e didn't have problems, but most complaints levied against it can be boiled down to "that's not how 3e did it." WotC's attempt to take the market with the d20 system worked a little too well, in a sense; people became very loyal to it: the d20 system, not D&D. The fact 4e is dissimilar in presentation and in a few, major underlying assumptions and mechanics to the d20 system is the cause for a lot of its hate from 3e fans. I think not codifying roles, that said, would have reduced some of the hate, but not by a significant margin: too much would still be different in the eyes of 3e fans.
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