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Racing season is delayed, as our harbor is underwater and everything is eroding.      
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Sunscreen, beer, and jump in the water to cool off. Of course, I have use of a boat with a slip and a furler, so there's none of this raise the big stick attach the little stick business each time we want to go out. I may also be somewhat frustrated and wanting to sail, as I've spent all week being race committee rather than racing myself.
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Jun 23, 2017 01:51
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Kenshin posted:Ohhh. Alctel, mind linking your blog? Would also like a link!
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Jul 1, 2017 18:58
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FrozenVent posted:Living on a boat is a masochistic endeavour. This... sounds like you need to share some stories friend.
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Jul 30, 2017 16:38
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sharkytm posted:Head over to the Maritime thread... plenty of stories. What subforum?
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Jul 30, 2017 16:56
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Good news so far! Given the pictures floating around I'm guessing you're going to be amoung the lucky few...
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Sep 8, 2017 20:59
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Maybe I'm broken, but it looks pretty cool and the idea of a transatlantic crossing without using any fuel is neat. Plus it goes fast.
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Oct 14, 2017 20:00
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monsterzero posted:Good eye, it's a Catalina 22. If you go overboard while singlehanded the bigger issue is that the boat is going to be somewhere off in the distance, unless you tie yourself to it.
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Jan 22, 2018 20:39
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monsterzero posted:Agreed, but I don't have any sort of autopilot or even a tiller lock so it should just round up. Right? Eventually sure. The boat I race on has very little weather helm - it's incredibly well balanced. Depending on the point of sail it'd keep going for quite a while.
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Jan 23, 2018 03:47
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monsterzero posted:Most of the advice I’ve found by googling has been to bring beer and a good attitude. Anyone have any advice or good resources for noob crewman? Don't worry if someone is yelling at you to do something, it's hard to hear when things are going crazy so people yell to make sure they're heard. Also bring beer.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:26
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Crunchy Black posted:That's why I keep my happy rear end forward of the mast and out of the cockpit. That looks pretty light for J24's, it'd be fun if the gusts were the sustained. I'm mid deck on a shark - I fly, launch, and douse the spin, run the genny upwind, and occasionally when we're shorthanded I'll cleat the spin (and pass one of the lines to the skipper to break it in an emergency) and go gybe it myself. It's fun when it's howling, sustained 25+ knots with the spin up, surfing the waves. We were managing to keep pace with a J95 in 25knt winds who was carrying way too much sail - until the gust hit, and their spin blew out.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:07
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Crunchy Black posted:I'm presuming everyone saw the J105 get owned by the powerboat but posting regardless. How do you miss the giant sailboat with sails up??
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Aug 18, 2018 05:22
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Popete posted:Ugh I can taste that copper paint just looking at the pictures. I uh hope you've been wearing a proper mask (though you wouldn't wind up tasting it) with filters etc, that poo poo is awful for you. In other news we got the horn shorthanded in one of our races a week or two ago 
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Sep 27, 2018 18:10
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sharkytm posted:Tyvek. A thousand times this. VC17 is such incredibly awful stuff.
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Sep 27, 2018 21:26
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Well done dude. Looking at Santana 20's, they seem pretty similar to Shark 24's (which is what I race). Not surprised you didn't need to play the main in 3-5knt winds, that'd be one hell of a tender boat if you did. Its nice when as the skipper you can just worry about driving the boat and not everything else that's going on. My girlfriend usually skippers, and I run the rest of the boat when we're double handed, when we have a fore deck they don't come back to the cockpit at all. We've got one distance race left on Monday, and that'll be it for our season.
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Oct 4, 2018 14:06
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Yeah sharks started about 20 years before J24's. It's similar, was one of the first fiberglass boats so they're overbuilt to hell and back, which is why there are still a lot of them around. They're inexpensive to own/race as far as boats go, class rules mean dacron only so a full set of sails is less than 4K CAD (Main, Genoa, Spin). The idea behind them at the time was an inexpensive, sturdy family boat that would go like stink in heavy winds on lake ontario. They phrf a lot closer to the santana 20 though, 219 this year. I think a J24 would be like 170ish? Jealous about that C&C99, those are beautiful.
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Oct 5, 2018 01:23
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It's snowing today, I'm racing sailboats next weekend.
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Oct 27, 2018 16:32
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Neslepaks posted:I'm inching closer to making a very giant mistake... I'm looking at a 24' wind powered mistake on Sunday. Wish me luck.
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Aug 16, 2019 18:38
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I did a thing. It's a 1963 Shark 24. Main, 2x 180 Genoa, Spin, etc. I got it for a price that made it way too easy 1800 CAD including trailer + 4.4 2 stroke outboard + sails/lines/etc, spin pole. I've been racing sharks for 8 years now, and met my fiance doing so. This is a shared purchase between us, but she's the better helmsperson and likely will do most of the helming for racing. Bottom has been recently refinished, above the waterline needs work - it's solid, but scratched to hell and back and not all that smooth. There are one or two problem areas that shouldn't be too difficult to fix. Down the rabbit hole we go. TrueChaos fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Aug 19, 2019 |
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Aug 19, 2019 00:14
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Thanks! There's about 15 of these in the fleet where I am, most out racing regularly, a few of which are older than mine. Sail # is 194, and #94 races regularly. I learned to sail on #269, which was built in '64, and have raced against #12 at regattas. The first shark was built out of wood, and then they started in on fiberglass. Having no real understanding of fiberglass (it was brand new at the time) the boats are very much overbuilt.
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Aug 19, 2019 13:25
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Na, need to swap the keelbolts for longer ones that we can put lifting nuts on if we want to dry race. Otherwise lifting in/out is too much of a hassle with the whole box frame / sling deal. The lifting nuts would mean we could lift with the mast up and boom still on  . We're probably going to get her in the water for a sail or two this year, but that'll be about it - we're moving cities within the next 6 months and will get a slip at the club of where we're moving for next year. My fiance's father has both a C&C27 and another shark that we can sail basically whenever we want, we've been racing his shark once a week (he races the shark for the other race nights) for the past few years.Shark class rules are 3 people - our foredecker doesn't see the inside of the cockpit during racing, just hangs out at the shrouds and dives under the boom for tacks. With tweakers for the spin and a furler the foredeck area is actually really clear. In heavier wind mid deck and foredeck are both out on the rail near the shrouds. We frequently go with just the two of us for random distance races, it's not bad at all with a furler. The hull above the waterline is pretty scratched up and almost rough to the touch in areas. Am I on the right track thinking that I should basically sand smooth, then add fairing epoxy compound to low areas/scratches, sand to a nice smooth finish, then prime/paint? There's a reason it was an $1800 boat/trailer/motor/sails/etc combo... 
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Aug 19, 2019 20:51
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Hadlock posted:Oh hi, I was redirected to this thread from the spaceflight Megathread Na, I wanna hear some costal racing stories. I race on lakes/giant rivers in a shark24.
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Dec 15, 2019 06:04
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Crunchy Black posted:They conscripted me for foredeck lol Pffft easiest spot on the boat if you've got any balance to speak of. (I usually mid deck, though we race shorthanded a lot so I wind up mid deck and foredeck while my fiance helms. I can keep the chute flying through the gybe while pole dancing, which I've done in 20+ knots... I'm just giving you poo poo. I don't wear shoes though, helps with my balance)
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Mar 14, 2020 02:45
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gvibes posted:Stay safe out there nerds Holy poo poo.
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Mar 14, 2020 07:11
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Crunchy Black posted:Yeah, I have a perforated ear drum so I don't get on a boat without Zhik ZKGs or seaboots on. My balance is incredibly poor. With two of us I'm trimming while foredecking at the same time. It's about as much fun as it sounds, I've wished for 4 hands more than a few times.
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Mar 15, 2020 18:23
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Driver handles the main - with the way we're rigged (ratchet blocks are a beautiful thing) it's doable. Plus sharks are small enough that worst case I can use the pole (unattached from the mast) to manipulate the guy side and just reach over and grab the sheet around where the tweakers attach and keep it flying. Frequently we'll cleat what will become the guy, and I'll manage the pole + what will become the sheet while forward. Once the main is over, the driver will assist on the guy if needed, but we're usually quick enough that it's not necessary. Shark spin poles are only 7'4", and don't weigh much, plus the beam is a little over 2' less than on a J24. Coupled with being 6' with lanky long arms, it makes things easier. Could we do it with the driver running the sheet & guy? Sure, but that's too slow. Procedure there requires flipping the main and then gybing the chute, our way we get them both done at once and don't depower at all.
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Mar 15, 2020 23:37
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There's a reason for the box of misc hardware parts on every boat.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:08
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It's beautiful - would love to see interior pics if you get a chance!
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May 18, 2020 02:23
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Neslepaks posted:It kinda does that by itself when I turn it on. Cool shots, thanks for the pics!
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May 25, 2020 01:13
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I guess if we have to move forums it's okay, but AI is the right spot for it Imo.
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Jul 18, 2020 04:01
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Had a fantastic sail on Saturday - wind was a bit higher than expected, 14ish knots sustained gusting to 25. We put the chute up and surfed the waves at 8+ knots downwind. A++ would sail again Back upwind we were getting knocked down on the main only  . Probably could have gone faster if we pulled out the headsail, but I didn't feel like doing a headsail change and the 180 would have been quite a handful and the main probably would have just been flogging most of the time.
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Jul 20, 2020 04:39
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I keep checking back with every new post hoping for boat photos, but I remain disappointed.
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Aug 23, 2020 04:08
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I learned to sail after moving to a quiet town and asking coworkers what the hell there was to do around here in the summer for fun, and was told if I was interested in sailing they knew a few boats looking for crew for racing. It wasn't difficult aside from the occasional yelling, and there was beer after every race. I've still never taken any kind of course. I'm going to eventually take some cruising courses as we're looking at chartering a boat for a vacation someday. I could see courses being useful for dinghies where you need to learn how to right them after turtling, but honestly it's really not that difficult. Crewing on a race boat will throw you into all kinds of conditions, and you won't be the one in charge - as long as you can keep your head about you and follow direction you'll be fine, and you'll learn a lot. People are always looking for crew, and most are happy to have anyone regardless of ability, and are willing to explain what they're doing, what they need you to do and why, etc. Plus it usually doesn't cost you anything other than a 'crewing' membership at the club, which are typically quite inexpensive.
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Oct 18, 2020 04:48
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Crunchy Black posted:Hadlock, I've literally never been on a boat that's had a rig failure and we beat the dogshit out of our J24s here. I have seen rig failure on a shark at the spreaders (those shrouds were <15 years old) that brought down the mast, on another shark of unknown age snapped one racing in 25knots gusting to 35 (probably well past 30 years on the stays), a tazer 26 that snapped an outer stay and the mast went plop, an Olson 29 that forgot to release the running back stay on a tack and brought down the mast (not really the stays fault on this one). Check in with your insurance - in all the instances above, the masts were replaced by the insurance company with the exception of the one shark that the stays were >30 years. For the shark, they found that the stays had exceeded their lifespan and that's why the mast came down. They're considered a wear item by the insurance company. For what it's worth, we're replacing the entirety of our stays before putting our shark in the water next year. As far as I can tell, all but 2 are original... From 1964. And on a shark it'll cost <600CAD
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Oct 20, 2020 01:17
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Yeah we're lucky we have a place that makes stuff for sharks, including masts. A brand spanking new mast with internal halyards, stays, etc., only runs $4K. The boat including trailer, motor, and sails was 1800$
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Oct 20, 2020 02:22
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Crunchy Black posted:Former West Marine-er here Hey maybe you'd have some advice for the repairs I'm looking at doing! So a bit of the backstory on my boat, it was left uncovered outside for quite a while. At one point filling up with water (thankfully the structural wood is okay, bunch more needs some work, but it's good enough for now). What the previous-previous owner did, because he didn't give two shits, was drill a small hole behind the keel flange so the boat would stop collecting water. What the dumbfuck previous owner did to fix this was put a bolt through the hole and fair it in. It's a small hole, <1/2", but I'd like to fix this properly. I'm also replacing keelbolts as they're original and the boats a few years short of it's 60th birthday, so I have some fairing work to do anyway. Would the basic procedure to fix the hole be: 1 - Sand a bit of the exterior in a circle outwards from the hole, ~1-2" total. 2 - Sand a bit of the interior in a similar circle. 3 - Tape plastic wrap tight over the exterior of the hole 4 - West 105 + 205 + 406, fill hole from the inside 5 - Sand exterior smoothish 6 - Fair the hole with West 105 + 205 + 407, once the previous application has completely cured 8 - Paint - paint with interprotect 2000e, 3+ coats, sand up to 800 grit, followed by VC-17 once cured I'd also look at using the West 105 + 205 + 407 for a bunch of relatively deep scratches above the water line, as well as cleaning up a bunch of piss poorly repaired through holes in the deck for mounting hardware (i.e. sand / grind down existing lovely repair, fair with west system) followed with interprotect 2000e. There are a number of areas I'd like to do, and quite frankly I don't give a poo poo about colour matching at all, so I'm not worried about a bunch of white spots that aren't going to match easily. Above the water line it would be sand with 800 grit and then maybe buff with one of the compounds listed by others above. Thoughts? Anyone else have input?
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Apr 14, 2021 16:37
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monsterzero posted:I think you've got the general right idea on patching that hole. 1/2" is pretty small, but it is below the waterline. Yeah, this hole is small enough and the area around doesn't have any cracking or anything - it's back of the keel so that I think I can get away with just a hard filler - 1/2" is a guestimate, could be closer to 1/4", won't know till I knock off the poo poo the PO did. If its upwards of 1/2" I'll do it with proper glass. Big Taint posted:How thick is the hull where this hole is? The keel stub area is under some stress and will flex (see cracking keel fairing above), you way want to incorporate a small layer of fiberglass cloth on one or both sides so your patch isn’t likely to pop out. Pretty thick. It's a shark 24, right around when they started using fiberglass for boats, so it's overbuilt to hell and back - likely why there are so many of them still kicking around. From what I can tell, there's been no cracking at all in the surrounding area and the patchwork (if half-assed) by the previous owner hasn't caused any detriment (the boat was raced like this in some pretty decent winds (20knt sustained gusting 30).
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Apr 14, 2021 17:35
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TheFluff posted:This brings me to a question though. How do y'all lock your turnbuckles? On the shark the inner and outer turnbuckles are right beside each other, so we just loop a small rope through the open space in the turnbuckles connecting the inners and outers together so that they can't rotate.
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May 10, 2021 16:22
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Round these parts captain brings the boat and the booze, and buys a round at the club bar post race.
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So I bought another shark. Mainly because the current shark needs more work than I realistically have time to actually get done, and I want to spend more time sailing / racing. Amusingly this one still needs some work, but it's limited to like a few coats of bottom paint and re-bedding deck hardware in locations that actually make sense for racing.
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