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evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

It's unfortunate it looks like they're sticking with before 16 instead of bumping that up to before 18, they really should have done that as well.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pegged Lamb posted:

Civil War 2's destruction will consist of several hundred dollars in smashed government building windows but no casualties
I prefer the something awful version where the freepers take over a subway and then get drone striked.

e: I mean Second American Revolution
http://www.somethingawful.com/news/guns-versus-apaches/

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Nov 20, 2014

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

evilweasel posted:

It's unfortunate it looks like they're sticking with before 16 instead of bumping that up to before 18, they really should have done that as well.
Why did they? I can't see anybody who wasn't supporting this be like "Oh? Before sixteen? That's okay then."
Also is this thing even legit? Why is it not everywhere right now?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Why did they? I can't see anybody who wasn't supporting this be like "Oh? Before sixteen? That's okay then."
Also is this thing even legit? Why is it not everywhere right now?

Because it would have been seen as Emperor Obama drafting an army of millions to vote for a Democrat caliphate.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Why did they? I can't see anybody who wasn't supporting this be like "Oh? Before sixteen? That's okay then."
Also is this thing even legit? Why is it not everywhere right now?

Other news organizations might feel reporting on it would break their embargo, because the only way they'd verify it was true would be comparing it to their copy. Alternatively, they may not have noticed yet.

edit: here's one short article: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/niya-white-house-immigration

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Nonsense posted:

Because it would have been seen as Emperor Obama drafting an army of millions to vote for a Democrat caliphate.
Except that doesn't make sense even if you believe/lie and say that amnesty equals naturalization, since the clause is

quote:


An individual who arrived in the US before turning 16 years old and before January 1, 2010, regardless of how old they are today
So that don't make sense.

SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Nov 20, 2014

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Noted amnesty-supporter and anti-business freedom socialist Ronald Reagan on immigration reform:

http://youtu.be/JfHKIq5z80U

Getting some fun feedback on facebook with this.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Zeno-25 posted:

Noted amnesty-supporter and anti-business freedom socialist Ronald Reagan on immigration reform:

http://youtu.be/JfHKIq5z80U

Getting some fun feedback on facebook with this.

Reagan paired immigration reform with correcting latin american structural issues via American intervention. If Obama was serious about fixing immigration, he'd send in the marines to do some 'nation building.'

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

My Imaginary GF posted:

Reagan paired immigration reform with correcting latin american structural issues via American intervention. If Obama was serious about fixing immigration, he'd send in the marines to do some 'nation building.'

:psyduck: So that is what Iran-Contra was about....

Thats not a good point to make, you know that right?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


n/m, i'm dumb, please disregard

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Nov 21, 2014

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Lost in the "illegals" part of this is the fact that he plans to expand working visas. That's a fantastic thing. There's so many people apply to work in the US when a company wants to sponsor them, only to have their name thrown into a hat and picked from a lottery. Didn't get your name picked? Tough luck, try again next time and hope you're lucky.

I guess this one is personal to me because my girlfriend gets deported if she doesn't get an H1B visa. Please don't ruin this, Republicans.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

seiferguy posted:

I guess this one is personal to me because my girlfriend gets deported if she doesn't get an H1B visa. Please don't ruin this, Republicans.

I hope she gets in, and I'm heavily in favor of immigration reform, but the H1B visa system has been heavily abused by tech companies and is partially responsible for the depressing IT job market.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

CommieGIR posted:

I hope she gets in, and I'm heavily in favor of immigration reform, but the H1B visa system has been heavily abused by tech companies and is partially responsible for the depressing IT job market.

If it's any consolation, she did her undergraduate here and got hired straight out of college. Her current visa is expiring so she needs this one to stay working.

Slobjob Zizek
Jun 20, 2004
This EO is just stopping deportation for some group of undocumented immigrants, right? I don't see how it would be legal to increase the number of H1B visa, etc. without a change in the law.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

My Imaginary GF posted:

Reagan paired immigration reform with correcting latin american structural issues via American intervention. If Obama was serious about fixing immigration, he'd send in the marines to do some 'nation building.'

Structural issue: peasants are alive
Remedy:

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Reagan paired immigration reform with correcting latin american structural issues via American intervention. If Obama was serious about fixing immigration, he'd send in the marines to do some 'nation building.'

You ... might want to stick to African policy if that's your read of Latin American political history.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

The Warszawa posted:

You ... might want to stick to African policy if that's your read of Latin American political history.

All I remember about my Latin American History class was that it was built around the ECLA Thesis and the Skidmore and Smith Hypothesis. I hated that class.

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

blackguy32 posted:

All I remember about my Latin American History class was that it was built around the ECLA Thesis and the Skidmore and Smith Hypothesis. I hated that class.

Yeah, that's because Skidmore and Smith author basically the leading comprehensive textbook for intro LatAm history. It's a topic that really demands the ability to examine primary sources untranslated, in my opinion.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Here is Boehner's pre-sponse to His High Mightiness, the President of the United States and Protector of their Liberties Obama

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

One of the news stories I read mentioned--as kind of an aside--something about the executive order "allowing tech workers from other countries to stay in the U.S."

Does anyone know the extent to which the EO is expected to expand or modify H1-Bs, or whatever else to which this aside was referring?

eta:

seiferguy posted:

Lost in the "illegals" part of this is the fact that he plans to expand working visas. That's a fantastic thing. There's so many people apply to work in the US when a company wants to sponsor them, only to have their name thrown into a hat and picked from a lottery. Didn't get your name picked? Tough luck, try again next time and hope you're lucky.

I guess this one is personal to me because my girlfriend gets deported if she doesn't get an H1B visa. Please don't ruin this, Republicans.

Yah, I guess it was this.

Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Nov 21, 2014

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007



Yessssssssssssssssss

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Oklahoma's AG just sent an email blast to reporters announcing that he's suing Obama.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

A state that shares no border with Mexico? Where's the lawsuits from Arizona or Texas?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Joementum posted:

Oklahoma's AG just sent an email blast to reporters announcing that he's suing Obama.

I kinda thought Texas would be the first to do this. I can't imagine he'll have any more luck than Boehner

Misandrist Duck
Oct 22, 2012
Barack working hard on that speech

http://vine.co/v/OJpbbBpebbw

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

CommieGIR posted:

I kinda thought Texas would be the first to do this. I can't imagine he'll have any more luck than Boehner

Rick Perry was too busy talking to Czechs about their exploded gym.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Misandrist Duck posted:

Barack working hard on that speech

http://vine.co/v/OJpbbBpebbw
Our country is loving retarded.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Our country is loving retarded.

Not as silly as their dubstep State of the Union promo.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

Oh my god, haha how embarrassing. I don't think the Vine is too bad. What's wrong with it? It's pretty dumb that part of the WH's media resources is going to vine stuff, but other than that it's a fine way to disseminate a quick little ad for this speech.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
This is real.

Can we end America now?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Michael Scott posted:

Oh my god, haha how embarrassing.

Was Vine ever not embarrassing? I always thought it was just 4chan for normal people?

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

This is real.

Can we end America now?

America died back in 2008 remember? We are living in the United Socialist States of America, beacon of Islamic Communism to the rest of the world. Heil Chairman Obamilter.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

Live video link if you need it.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

CommieGIR posted:

Was Vine ever not embarrassing? I always thought it was just 4chan for normal people?
Do you not know what one of these things is? I have no idea how you get that comparison.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:
LETS DO THIS!

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

CommieGIR posted:

Was Vine ever not embarrassing?

I was talking about the YouTube clip, not the Vine one.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


Is he in front of a blue screen?

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax
You entered office promising lots of things! Kappa

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.
Haha, talking about "people who obey the rules and people who flout the rules" - the typical documented versus undocumented descriptors - and applying that to business owners.

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Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

The Warszawa posted:

Haha, talking about "people who obey the rules and people who flout the rules" - the typical documented versus undocumented descriptors - and applying that to business owners.
That was really clever.

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