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Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Bobtista posted:

Can I still run my 16x coveted playlist for funbucks or is that a total waste of time now?

they've made coveted longer, slightly harder to solo (not that much) and the changes to payout means almost any mission is fine for collecting funbux. Play anything, don't grind one mission repeatedly.


Moochewmoo posted:

Is there a "best" for any of the weapon types? I would like to optimize my weapon wheel by dumping some poo poo, but I can't tell what's good or not anymore. Also it seems my Adder and Entity are missing. Thanks Rockstar.

There's a lot of stat-identical or stat-similar guns, but these are what I consider the best:

  • Pistols: AP pistol is the best. Heavy pistol is probably the best semi-auto.
  • SMGs: Combat SMG and regular SMG are very similar, Combat is slightly better. Get the Micro regardless for drive-by purposes, sometimes it's useful over the AP pistol.
  • Shotguns: Assault Shotgun, but buy the sawed-off too since you can use it from a motorcycle
  • ARs: Special Carbine or Bullpup rifle (they appear to be stat-identical) - special note to the regular Carbine Rifle, which does less damage per shot but is more accurate than either, and the advanced rifle's high rate of fire.
  • MGs: Combat MG is the best - pretty accurate, lots of ammo. Gusenberg Sweeper is pretty good up close but worse at range but has lots of style.
  • Snipers: Heavy Sniper
  • heavy weapon: whatever
  • thrown: stickies

e: changed based on BitBasher knowing things about this game

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Psion
Dec 13, 2002



BitBasher posted:

Last I saw the Advanced Rifle beats both of them in Time To Kill by the numbers.

if the stats I'm seeing are right (no promises, it's a GTA wiki) the Special Carbine hits harder, fires slightly faster, has better accuracy, and equal range to the Advanced Rifle.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



BitBasher posted:

I was talking about in game repeated testing. There was a long thread on the GTA forums about it debunking the special carbine. In practical use they may as well be the same though. The difference in actual time to kill is very small. Who knows if that is still true on current gen versions.

if you can point me at said testing I'd like to read it. As far as my personal experience goes, the only AR not worth your time whatsoever is the AK. Everything else is an upgrade over that thing.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



And yet 360 is working perfectly.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



yeah I bet the 360/ps3 playerbase is actually higher than normal right now because of people playing again either because PS4/Xbone reminded them of GTA, getting ready for a holiday gift giving event, or just whatever - but it's got a lot of people either way.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



You can hang off a Dodo? That sounds pretty awesome. The Vestra should be a 4-seater, then it'd be a perfect purchase airplane. Good mix of speed, agility, passenger capacity. At 2 it's pretty sad on that last one -- the plane it's modeled on seats up to 7, so no excuse.

but really the only air vehicle worth buying is the Buzzard.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



MrLonghair posted:

If I could get a refund just for GTAO ($30) I would. It's like they also hosed up the netcode massively. I wrap up work and decide to get into a lobby and goof off to eventually hop into a random job co-op BECAUSE ONE DAY THAT FUNCTION WILL WORK but it crashes and I lose interest. I dump two bullets from a sniper rifle into a guy a block away and he's fine, but he plinks me to death with an assault rifle long after I've turned away. I later turn and BRRT a guy with my mini-uzi, he moves on for a while before dropping dead from my bullets. Are lobbies P2P hosted?

At least the SP hasn't bugged out for me, and I know it will get at least one expansion of fine quality sometime.

I don't want to be a dick because what you're dealing with sucks, but the 360/ps3 launch was hosed for basically a month straight, everyone should've expected this because Rockstar. It didn't even let everyone make a character for days, much less be stable enough to not lose progress/wipe characters/generally be screwed up.

Pretend online doesn't exist, play the rest of SP, come back in a couple weeks. It's definitely better that way.

also $30 refund haha yeah. right. In Rockstar Logic, you bought GTAV for $60 and Online is free to play, that's why shark cards are okay because you didn't pay for the base game!!!

Feenix posted:

Please tell me how/where I do this 250k challenge?



Pause menu -> Online -> Playlists -> Challenges, I believe. I wish they worked on last-gen.

Psion fucked around with this message at Nov 25, 2014 around 01:43

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

It just randomly picks 6 jobs to put on the voting screen. Sometimes there's a mission in there, but the missions are way out numbered by other jobs. It's extremely annoying when they don't put any jobs of the type you just played in the vote screen. Like when you just finished a race and it doesn't even give you an option to vote to play another race.

It's like something that should be common sense, but Rockstar didn't figure out that people probably would want to keep playing the same job type.

Yeah, that's really annoying. There should always be 1/2 of the same mission type in the voting screen. I think 2.

do a mission, get 2 missions, an LTS, a race, a dm, parachute, don't care.

do a race, get 2 races, a mission, a parachute event, a TDM, ... etc

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



also, this happened today.


way to copy my Massacro, buddy

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



so how does Blow Up II work for this exactly? You go and move the Banshee out of the line of fire, destroy everything else, repeat x200 cops, then turn in the Banshee?

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Kelly posted:

Yup.

Back the Banshee behind the building in the parking lot, behind the dumpsters. Destroy all the cars, kill cops for around 10 minutes, go grab the Banshee and call Lester to remove your wanted level.

They spawn continuously - you could do it for as along as you want and they don't stop going. 10 minutes or so seems to get you around 200 kills which is when you get the 9200 RP. Going longer doesn't seem to get you any extra RP.

The only problem with this is I don't have a tank, so I'd have to buy a tank and then run it ~75 times to break even

I tried it with a Buzzard and it's doable, you get money (not 20k) but the police helicopters are a real pain in the rear end. And if you move around to get rid of them the ground cops don't stop and bunch up.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Nah I'm still a last-gen scrub. Challenges don't work. I'll upgrade to PC when there's a steam sale.

I mean this is sort of academic, I have $4m in the bank so it's not like I need the money. But a lot of people do so it's good to know!

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



I just played a string of missions with a random player who had a Sandking XL and was pretty drat good with using it as a weapon - like on those "escort a vehicle to X" missions, this player was awesome at smashing enemy vehicles off the road and absorbing bullets for the van, like A+ team player here. I drove the slow boring poo poo, they rammed things off the road nonstop so we won. It owned.

so I sent them a message saying they were really great to play with, because I've played with some good random people but never one who was this good at using a vehicle as a weapon to accomplish objectives.

in other news, I found a unicorn and won the lottery.

Psion fucked around with this message at Nov 26, 2014 around 02:42

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Policenaut posted:

So when's Rockstar fixing Turbo making vehicles go slower? It's a huge pain in the rear end to drive all 12 of my cars out to get it swapped out and again when they fix it.

well they said the first PS4/Xbone update would also include heists, so logic suggests they'll never fix turbos

Scyron posted:

What level does

I think it's both level (12 for crates, 19 for trucks) and doing missions for Ron/TPI, Lester, Simeon, etc, so do some missions too. They give you phone calls which explain that poo poo, otherwise they don't unlock.

Psion fucked around with this message at Nov 26, 2014 around 03:51

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



MrLonghair posted:

Buying the Buzzard in preparation for the heists, 200k to go until I make myself horribly out of money

yeah but once you have it, making money off a ton of missions is easy as hell plus you'll have a Buzzard. It's worth it!

the trick is, and this is the funny part, not doing them too fast. It's easy to do something like Trash Talk way too quickly. If I'm pubbing it I like to blow the trucks and let them clear out the depot on foot.

also has anyone else just had missions never, ever show up in the menu or in invites or anything? GTA Today, even Los Santos Connection, Frickin Lazers (or whatever) - I've played them once if at all lately.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



blackguy32 posted:

What is the best way of earning RP currently?

races or missions, Kelly has a great way to RP farm using a tank and Blow Up 2 if you have a tank.

but really, races and missions. just do poo poo, RP rolls in. Play on Hard and in free-aim for bonus $/rp.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



It's probably the best mission in the game insofar as it's not just drive to x, shoot ___ or deliver vehicle to ___ or whatever - it's a three part mission with three distinct things to do and it's fun in all three parts. A+ wish more missions were like it.

That said, yes, there's a hack in it. Hacking is easy, however, when you realize each refresh just moves everything left one column (and maybe up one, but I don't think so) so spotting the 4 numbers you want and then hanging onto them even if you can't get the cursor down there is simple. It doesn't take long to get really good at it.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Zip! posted:

So what are the best cars for each of the classes?

We should really put together something for the OP, because this is a perennial question.

Something like "best for racing," and "pretty good/has a notable feature" so people don't just pick the same cars over and over.

something like this maybe? but for all classes:

quote:

Super:
Best for racing: Zentorno
Second best for racing: Entity XF

Other Notable Supers:
Adder (highest top speed in the class/game?)
Voltic (lowish top speed, incredible acceleration)

quote:

Sports:
Best for racing: Massacro
Second best for racing: ???

Other notable sports cars:
Sultan RS: really solid performance, cheap insurance, 4-door. You should have one of these.
Carbonizzare: very fun to drive, high top speed, good performance, RWD only so I hope you know how to control torque!

I'm thinking something like this would get you an idea of what cars are cool to have as well as which ones are the pro min/max racing best-in-class.

e: also it might be worth having "cars to avoid in this class" if there even are any, like cars that are so bad they aren't worth it at all.

Psion fucked around with this message at Dec 1, 2014 around 03:29

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



It's fast, handles well, accelerates well. Basically, it's a little more forgiving than a Carbonizzare. If you're good with the Carbonizzare's quirks there isn't a huge reason to get one for missions/driving/funtimes.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Lyer posted:

Do vehicle mods add that much in terms of performance? The online races are such a clusterfuck, I really don't want to be doing those if it's not absolutely necessary.

E:and I had that god drat Black Eyed Peas song stuck in my head all day.

It's different from car to car as to how much, but yes, they do. Trading wins for Criminal Records is probably your best bet to bypass the poo poo if you don't want to do it. As a bonus you'll get some good RP out of it.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



I'll take a crack at the car thing for every class I know about, then everyone can disagree and eventually it'll be ready for the OP. Anyone with Car Opinions - especially about Sports Classic, Sedan, Muscle, Compact, and SUV, please post.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Feenix posted:

No I mean, what is the end result? You can repeatedly do the same stunt jump (in a race) and get multiple credits?

You unlock lime green as a paint color for all vehicles at LSC after completing 25 or 50 stunt jumps or whatever. So by doing this you can do the same jump over and over again instead of having to do each jump once, yeah.

since most of the stunt jumps are pure poo poo, being able to cheat them like this owns. I'm gonna do it tonight

Psion fucked around with this message at Dec 1, 2014 around 18:27

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



OK - this all looks pretty good. I'm not sure at all about a Sultan for sports racing; I love mine but for racing? Here's what I've got so far. I'm not putting in "other notables" for the sake of length, but those will be in the end result.

Super Cars
Best for racing: Zentorno
Second best for racing: Entity XF

Sports Cars
Best for racing: Massacro
Second best for racing: Elegy RH8

Muscle Cars
Best for racing: Blade
Second best for racing: Gauntlet/Dominator

Sports Classics
Best for racing: Monroe ... maybe?
Second best for racing: Z-Type ... also maybe?

Sedans
I've got Schafter, Stanier, maybe Tailgater? No idea how to order those.

Compacts
Best for racing: Blista
Second best for racing: Issi

Coupes
Best for racing: Exemplar
Second best for racing: F620

SUVs
Serrano, Radius, Huntley S, who knows?

Off-Road
Sanchez, how about a 4-wheel vehicle for comparison's sake - Sandking XL, Bifta, Dune Buggy...?

Motorcycles
Best for racing: Akuma
Second Best: Bati 801 or 801RR

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Feenix posted:

Why'd I think the Buzzard was 2.5mil? I just hit level 43 and it's now 1.75??

It's always been 1.75. Think of it as you just saved 750,000 you can put towards a car. Or half a tank. Or whatever!


ALSO - Stalk whoever sells it on ingame Lifeinvader before you buy, then wait a bit to see if it actually processes. It probably won't work but you're SUPPOSED to get a one-time 10% off discount coupon when you buy from them next. Might save you some money - but definitely expect to pay the full 1.75m.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



I also really like the Bifta, for the reasons you do. I'm thinking Bifta best, Sanchez second best (with the caveat that it's a motorcycle, be careful)

off-road is kind of hard as a category because sometimes you want a Sanchez for some races, sometimes you really, really don't.

Maybe split that into two, like Bifta > Rebel, etc and Sanchez > Blazer.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



SisterFister posted:

Still no love for the Hakochou? I love mine. I see where it loses a full bar in acceleration to the Akuma but it wins in every other stat.

I think racing is really heavily weighted towards acceleration being the dominant stat, which is why I think "picking the best car for racing" is leaving a lot of players not picking the most fun stuff to drive when not racing. If you really like driving the thing, tell me why and I'll put it under Notable. I only own an Akuma and used to own an 801 so I don't know anything about it.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Also to help any new players prioritize, what classes of race do you see frequently / sometimes / never?

like I always see super and sports races, I don't think I've ever raced in an SUV, and everything else infrequently. Is that typical?

BitBasher posted:

Other notable cars I would say are:

Agreed on both - I'll put your comments in there.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



I customized a plate with ifruit and it showed up like two weeks later. It's really stupid how bad that system is.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



I think this is pretty close to done. Final thoughts, cars to add to the notable list, bad opinions?


"What's the best car for racing?" Well, here's what the thread thinks. Best and second best options.
  • Super - Zentorno | Entity XF
  • Sports - Massacro | Elegy RH8
  • Muscle - Blade | Gauntlet/Dominator
  • Sports Classics - Monroe | Z-Type
  • Sedans - Schafter | Stainer
  • Compacts - Blista | Issi
  • Coupes - Exemplar | F620
  • SUVs - Huntley S | Don't race SUVs. Don't even buy one. No, really.
  • Off-Road - Motorcycle: Sanchez | 4-Wheel Option: Bifta -- Both have serious pros and cons; this depends a lot on the race and your personal style.
  • Motorcycles - Akuma | Bati 801/801RR

Super races are the most common, followed by sports. Offroad, Muscle, Sports Classics and Motorcycles happen occasionally. Coupes, Compacts, and Sedans are rare. SUVs are the rarest by a factor of about a billion. Prioritize your purchasing.



Other Notable Cars - you might want some of these if you aren't racing 24/7.
  • Adder: highest top speed in the game. (Super)
  • Voltic: lowish top speed for the class, but incredible acceleration. (Super)
  • Sultan: Mediocre when unmodded, amazing when fully modded up. Four doors, near-perfect balance and AWD, excellent handling. Best 4 door in the game with the bonus of incredibly cheap insurance. Everyone should own one. (Sports)
  • Carbonizzare: Hardtop convertible. Not convinced? Ridiculous top speed and acceleration; it wants to go fast. This car will teach you how to be a good driver - it'll get away from you if you let it, otherwise you'll have a car which can take supers at a fraction of the price. The skills you learn here will make you better with every other car. Bonus: sounds awesome. (Sports)
  • Phoenix: You can put a Plymouth Superbird wing on this. Enough said. (Muscle)
  • Sabre Turbo: Sounds great, looks good, lots of mod options. (Muscle)
  • Felon GT: sells for $9500 at LSC, if you can find one (Coupes)
  • Baller: sells for $9000 at LSC, is the most common vehicle worth selling. Good acceleration. For some reason there are two distinct Baller models in-game. (SUV)
  • Granger: Can hold 8 people - 4 inside and 4 on the running boards outside. The 4 outside players will probably die the first time you crash into something, so make sure you don't like them. On the upside they can shoot guns one-handed so it looks really, really cool until they die. (SUV)
  • Sandking XL: paint it hot pink and run people over in a huge truck. What's not to like? When you hit rank 100, consider upgrading to a Dubsta 6x6. (Off-Road)

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Snaggletooth posted:

Chasing a fellow LLJK crew member driving a Zentoro in my fully upgraded Entity, they were constantly pulling away. The Zentoro is more squirrely though. What an ugly car... I've switched irregardlessly.

agreed, but I made mine look sort of like the Tumbler from Batman so it's alright I guess: http://rsg.ms/3e095d4

most supers are ugly, to be honest.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Zip! posted:

http://gta.wikia.com/Gusenberg_Sweeper ?

Not my list anyway, just something I copied and pasted.

yeah that's my list. I didn't know the Sweeper used LMG ammo - I've never paid attention to ammo since I got 9999 of everything a year ago and just push the buy all ammo button all the time.

I just changed it (removed the Sweeper from SMG, edited a couple things to compensate) so you might want to update geeves.

BitBasher posted:

If you can help it you should only do drive bys with the AP Pistol, the only reason to carry an SNG is if you are too low of a level to own the AP Pistol.

I think the micro has its place for killing drivers without blowing up cars -- basically only on missions. The AP is more accurate but the way drivebys work with the stupid "can't aim unless you're already shooting" poo poo sometimes the micro is a safer choice. In general, the AP pistol is better, absolutely.


Psion fucked around with this message at Dec 2, 2014 around 18:25

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



geeves posted:

Added this to the OP (well the 2nd post). Expanded on it a bit as well. Still need to get to the car info.

nobody's contradicted anything on the latest version so I think you're good to go. See this post.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Croccers posted:

Shotguns are basically gimmicks until you get the Assault, that is a CQB/blindfire machine. Enemy hiding around the corner? If you have the extended mag just start shooting before you strafe out around the corner.

I don't know about that, I did good work with the pump shotgun before I got the assault (which totally rules, agreed)

the AK is totally outclassed by every other rifle so it's worth knowing that you want it when it's your only option and you want to ditch it the minute it's not.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



BitBasher posted:

This isn't true anymore on PS4/Bone. You can set the in car scheme to "aim + shoot" which makes L1 aim and L2 fire in a vehicle you are driving. It's quite nice actually.

rub it in why don't ya, all you next-gen jerks

that's pretty cool, actually. Good on Rockstar for making an actual improvement to gameplay!

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



http://gfycat.com/ShortPessimisticAstrangiacoral


yeah I think Kelly is on to something here. This is a good way to waste a few minutes every now and then.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Hugh Malone posted:

Oh god how did the Stanier get there?

I looked on the internet to spot check that and everything else people told me and I saw a lot of hate on the Tailgater with regards to racing, so I said sure whatever and threw it on there. I also saw a lot of appreciation for the Schafter.


Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Policenaut posted:

What turbulence? I fly a jet or a buzzard 90% of the time and it feels the exact same as last gen to me.

yeah that's the problem, it is/was annoying as poo poo in last gen as it is now.

I think I've posted this before but I looked at some preview vids of GTAO and there's one shot with a Buzzard flying ruler loving straight and it made me go because I spend far too much time in a helicopter.

I want to say part of it is encouraging you to have a copilot because the TV guided missile cam is stabilized so it's really easy to put something on target, but it's dumb anyway.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



Beastie posted:

The turbulence isn't that bad and it's pretty normal irl, it's extremely difficult to keep aircraft straight and level near surface level and it's even more likely to happen flying near mountain ranges. I've never had it gently caress me over on missions or cause me to crash. It's there to prevent someone from absolutely wrecking your poo poo by sniping people with chain guns.

It's a videogame so "irl" means gently caress all, but even if you disagree with that, if I recall correctly Duke actually knows how to fly helicopters irl

Some bobbing around in-game to prevent chaingun sniping is fine but making the chainguns absolutely useless because it bobs around so much even at flight skill 100 is just as stupid. Maybe moreso. Also in terms of balance, now that the game has dumbfire rockets a helicopter wrecking your poo poo isn't going to be significantly easier with less bob giving you more effective guns.

It'd just be a lot more stylish.

Psion fucked around with this message at Dec 9, 2014 around 23:21

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



You're a bad person. I like it.

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Psion
Dec 13, 2002



I have Eclipse Towers which I want to move out of (it was my first, back when I thought a view of the city would be worthwhile in an apartment I never visit. Oops) and ...Del Perro heights maybe? Whatever. That's the one I'm in all the time. Eclipse Towers is a garage and nothing more, nowadays.

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