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The parallels between the Forresters and the Starks are pretty heavy. I guess I'll spoiler this just in case, since it involves discussion of both the series and preview material. We have a stern northern patriarch father, a southron mother who saw marriage as a sort of prison but grew to love her husband and puts family first, a dutiful eldest son who's ridden south with Rob to war, a black sheep second son who's off to find his place in the world (admittedly not a bastard this time), a meek eldest daughter who's a handmaid at King's Landing and is basically a prisoner due to the civil war, a clever third son, a second daughter [not actually a good match for Arya it seems, so I guess this fails] and finally a fourth son who's still very young and is just an excitable child. I mean, that's basically just the Stark family. I can understand wanting to model their side-story off of popular parts of the original and the Starks are the most widely popular House, but this is almost too dead-on. A Stark-like family in the South or a Northern family with a family dynamic closer to the Lannisters or Martells would at least obscure matters a little. As for what it's going to be about, if it's starting around the end of season 3 then the Red Wedding's just happened, which is bad news for the eldest son Forrester and maybe his father since that almost certainly means escaping the Twins, unless we're going to play as them once before they get killed, prologue-character style - which might be the case, since the description for the third son mentions him being thrust unexpectedly into the limelight, which makes it sound like the first son will die or go missing and with the second son exiled he'd be the new heir. I'm guessing the Boltons making their play for the North is going to be a large part of the plot. If the Forresters serve the Glovers, they're going to have trouble with Ironborn too.
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Of course this is coming the day before my life-or-death Algorithms exam. And of course I will be playing it anyway.
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The trailer's a little weird, since it prominently features so many show characters. The Forresters are an exceedingly minor House in the North, it's hard to imagine people of note in King's Landing sparing them a moment of thought. Hell, even (show-talk)Ramsay showing up in person seems like him taking too much interest in the minutia of his father's bannermen and what they get up to. One family of many sworn to the Boltons is hoping the fall of the Starks and the rise of the Boltons will give them a better claim on a rival neighbour's turf? Roose probably has a small mountain of such paperwork to handle.
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Aaaaand done. Pretty good. Definitely takes a lot of cues from Telltale's The Walking Dead, and I don't just mean the usual gameplay formula. A return to "hard, everything only gets worse" decisions and stacking bodies like cordwood. The Forresters have as bad luck as the Starks, it seems, with Roderick getting Rob'd at the Twins and Gregor Ned-ed in short order. Then Ethan gets offed, which kind of robs anything he did of significance besides who's the If Asher wasn't the Lord of House Forrester due to his exile, he might as well be now that the House is completely decimated. The little boy made a Whitehill ward is pretty muck Rickon, and is out of the story, so that only leaves the daughter and mother. The daughter in King's Landing looks like she's being recruited for Varys's spy network, so her longevity isn't exactly assured. The cameos were a bit awkward. The original characters look fine in the art style, since they're slightly exaggerated, but the characters based off of real people look too much like... well, real people. They've got some uncanny valley going on for sure. Their presence in the story at least felt a little less forced than I feared. All in all a pretty decent starting episode, but the plot's in a real hurry to get going. These guys got Stark'd in the worst way. Edit: I'm going to add that I don't think this was as strong as Tales From The Borderlands, an outcome that surprises me, and yeah it definitely feels more dependent on the tie-in aspect than other Telltale works. Dolash fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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That's... actually a pretty good idea. Admittedly he'd probably be crippled after what happened to him, but we're running really low on Forresters and it's only been one episode. Might help set up some tension, especially if he can't fight anymore and returns home to find Asher's back, and he's been fighting for the family in Roderick's absence. Really the oddest thing about the episode to me is how quickly they thin out the family, as bad as the Starks got or worse. Mira's safe since she's the only character in King's Landing, Ryon's probably just their Rickon and won't be seen much, and I guess Asher has some plot armor for a bit since if he drowns while crossing the Narrow Sea then going after him was a waste of the story's time, but otherwise it's just Elissa and Talia in Ironrath and that's it. Losing Ethan the way they did should generate a lot of chatter next episode. Your new warden's son waltzing in and murdering a boy-lord for no discernible reason in front of everyone should shake the people of Ironrath even more than losing Gregor and Roderick did. I mean, can they tell anyone? Send a letter to the Glovers, at least, or tell the crown about it. Marg's going to feel a little awkward when Mirra has to tell her Ramsay went ahead and murdered her brother anyway.
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BlueBayou posted:Because Roose will not stand for that poo poo. He has this whole thing with Ramsay where Ramsay is all "lets just loving kill people" and Roose smacks him up and says that the reason the Starks were loved for centuries is because they weren't colossal dickbags. And how its one thing to be brutal in war times, but now that there is peace, you can't have everyone continuing to hate you because you shanked some kid in cold blood What's funny is at first he seemed really rather crafty. (some indirect book-talk)Giving half the Ironwood to the Whitehills was a smart way to make sure the two Houses would focus their antagonism on each other and work hard to impress their Bolton masters, in hopes of getting the whole forest. But now, having murdered Ethan, he's just guaranteed that the family will do everything they can to sabotage the Boltons - like support Stannis, perhaps. I don't think we have the time to have that kind of drift. Games involve you more in the action than books, so the Forresters are probably our guys through and through even if some of them will turn out more morally grey and some antagonists like the Whitehills become more well-rounded. There also isn't really time to introduce a schemer character, since they usually depend on slow-burn plotlines and large casts, although we might get tied up in schemes what with Mirra probably getting recruited by Varys and having to do underhanded things to help her family. And I don't know if I actually like having book/show characters show up. It's kind of interesting incorporating your meta-knowledge (Don't call Ramsay "Snow") and having to plan around how characters fare later in the season/book (Taking Tyrion's deal is risky, knowing what happens to him), but it definitely breaks immersion - and that's before factoring in how weird they look in this engine and having a recognizable person's voice coming out of the character. I wonder, if this game is a success will they do another season? With Telltale's development schedule it could become a regular between-seasons thing for the show. Dolash fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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If you're concerned about us spoiling things, then yes, you will need to be caught up to at least season 3 of the show before playing this game. It opens with critical finale spoilers about the end of season 3 and the plot is at least somewhat intertwined with the events of season 4. I have to say that this is the first of Telltale's tie-in games where I'd have trouble recommending it to people who aren't familiar with the source material. I'd never read or seen the Walking Dead, Fables or Borderlands and that didn't impede my enjoyment of those games but this one assumes a lot of familiarity with Game of Thrones. Probably because it's the largest base audience they've had for a tie-in title yet.
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BlueBayou posted:well That guy's safe as houses. He's the only member of the cast at the Wall. There'll probably be some Jon-esque conflict where he'll be sworn to serve at the wall but have chances to ignore those oaths and help the Forresters instead. Maybe even a chance to desert. But he won't die any time soon, that's for sure.
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Gaz-L posted:I assume Gared's arc will be choosing between supporting Jon's crew in the conflict at the Wall and risking being sent to Craster's and being unable to help Duncan, or staying quiet and sacrificing your own honour. Probably followed by dying during the wildling assault on Castle Black. If they kill him his plot can't wrap back around to having an impact on the Forrester storyline. Mirra in King's Landing and Asher in Essos each have some plot armor in their respective stories, since if they die prematurely the question "why are we following them?" and "how did what they do feed back into the Forrester's situation?" both come up.
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I was definitely under the impression the North Grove is part of the Forrester's share of woodland, and has some kind of mystical significance. A lot of Northern families have assorted mystic rituals associated with the Old Gods and so on, it wouldn't be too strange if it turned out the Forrester lords had some kind of secret passed down from father to son about some pact concerning protecting the North Grove. Maybe they're not meant to harvest wood from there without angering something supernatural. Regardless, sending Gared to join the Night's Watch is an obvious setup for his uncle to try and call him back when he needs help with something to protect the Grove and Gared has to pick between loyalty to the Watch and to the Forresters. Becoming a Ranger makes it easier to desert/go AWOL for a little without anyone noticing.
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Most of them actually are literal analogues of Stark characters, and the general thrust of their stories has matched that. But yeah, the first episode was very clearly keen to lean on the show in hopes of bringing in people through the tie-in. Hopefully that'll ease off in future episodes.
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BlueBayou posted:I want to play as the Starks That's easy. Play Crusader Kings 2's Game of Thrones mod and do exactly that. I did that, in fact, and went on to conquer King's Landing, execute all the Lannisters, hand the throne to Stannis and lived happily ever after in the North. After that it was just long decades of peace, while Rob fell in love with his wife and raised six kids, three of them geniuses, and tried to keep Edmure from messing up badly enough to lose the Riverlands. Stannis was too busy putting down rebellions across the rest of the kingdoms to care. But things are never allowed to go well in Game of Thrones for sympathetic characters, so I expect the Forresters will lose it all (as well as a few more branches off the family tree) before the end. Although it would definitely be interesting if Roderick actually survived the Red Wedding and makes his way home a cripple.
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I'm willing to bet it'll come up again in a later episode in some way, either that soldier will be one of the ones garrisoned at Ironrath, or someone at the wall will hear about Gared's taste for revenge/mercy, something like that. It might not matter much outside of a throwaway line but it could still come up.
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Telltale has the issue that choice in games is an incredibly complicated and loaded concept, and can be implemented in countless different ways. If the version people have in their mind doesn't synch up with what you actually implement, it's going to be hard to please. I think they specifically reworded the opening slide to something more nuanced like "tailored" to emphasize that they're still telling a story and taking you somewhere, you just get to decide what kind of person you want to be and how you get there. Personally, I wouldn't get the same value out of watching a Telltale game on youtube as I would playing it - they're good at making their games feel immersive, and a lot of that comes from the constant barrage of little dialogue choices that let you characterize yourself. Watching someone else do it robs you of that, so that the game really is just a movie. Getting to decide just how Ethan handles his new responsibility, whether as an irresponsible and power-mad child or making an attempt to rise to the occasion, gives more investment in his situation even if you can't change the outcome.
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NESguerilla posted:They really need to stop it with this poo poo. Their release schedules are a joke. They just need to finish their games and release them all at once or on a weekly schedule or something. From now on I'm just waiting until their games are finished to play them because they take so long in between episodes I forget what's even going on. I'd prefer they don't stop, since waiting for a whole season to be done would mean waiting for an extra 6+ months before playing any episodes at all. I find the wait between episodes actually helps build hype, since playing a game a bit at a time over most of a year makes it more memorable than a game you play all at once on a weekend and then never again. Plus, the episodic format helps them accommodate feedback. There's nothing stopping you from just buying the game once they're completely done, like you say, but I prefer having the option.
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I don't think that particular war is any more accessible than the others. It only sounds like the beginning of the story because most of the characters in the books and show are old enough to remember that war so as far as they're concerned it's like the dawn of history. One of the big themes of the series is that the game keeps going and only the players change. That being said, picking the tail end of Robb's campaign is a pretty messy point to start from, compared to where the series starts. I'm pretty sure the actual reason they went with this time period is because it ties into the season of the show that just aired and the game is meant to help hype the show up. If the game succeeds they can release a new season of it after the next season of the show and keep doing that every year until the show ends.
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Nah, he's dead as a doornail. Knife directly through the throat of a boy? Plus everyone's talking like he's pretty plainly dead at the end there. If anyone's the mystery candidate for surviving, it's the eldest son Roderick - he was roughed up quite badly, complete with a horse falling on top of him, but he could survive crippled in a Frey dungeon and that'd make an interesting mid-season twist.
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From that preview video's description: "Meanwhile, an unexpected source of hope returns to the Forresters, but Ironrath is no place for the weak." Name of the episode is "Lost Lords". Roderick's going to turn up alive and crippled.
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Yeah, this episode was a fair bit stronger than the first. Now that it's had a chance to get underway, it's really feeling like Game of Thrones. I'm quite liking the characters of Roderick and Asher, and looking forward to seeing them meet - I suspect the brothers may have some issues to work out, and if Asher shows up with a mercenary army that might make them worse. I think there's been mention of plans to make future seasons, but I wonder if they'll all be about the Forresters? If they're free to follow other Houses in the future, it might be possible that if you fail to secure alliances (betrothals, mercenaries, royal contracts, the north grove) the Forresters really can just bite it!
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Keeping the betrothal sounds like a trap waiting to be sprung. Are the only ways to keep it by forging a letter from Margaery or offering the Ironwood that you can't hold on to or might need to sell to the Imp? Both of those options have risks. Can Marg choose to write you the letter if you didn't ask her for a favor in the last episode? That's the only way I could see this being "safe". It's a pity, though, I quite liked Roderick's former fiance. Hopefully there'll be a second chance later down the line. I was a big fan of Rob in the books, so I'm glad we get to play as Roderick. The Forresters felt very Stark-like in the first episode but they're evolving a little more into their own thing, and Roderick feels like exploring what it might've been like if Rob had survived. It's hard not to let book/show knowledge colour perceptions, though. Making a deal with Tyrion feels really dangerous, since it's going so well right now but we know what's going to happen to him soon. Even getting recruited for Varys's spy network is pretty risky considering how the show handles Varys.
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I was referring to the woman you meet to discuss the betrothal with, although yeah, the Whitehill daughter also seems quite reasonable. I wonder if her and Asher getting married as a way to unite the houses and end their feud might be a way the plot goes?
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I'll give you Asher and friends being unstoppable murder-machines, but Tuttle's not too unbelievable. He's a squire who fought with Rob's army, had a good sword (although it gave him some trouble to use) and got a not-unbelievable-amount of lucky. Besides, not all House soldiers are experienced veterans, some are just local bullies given a helmet and a spear.
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Arrrthritis posted:Just finished episode 2. Really cool that The song at the end uses your words at the end of episode 1. I wonder if The family members' will start to have conflicting interests that will come into play. Elissa seems to be inclined to take the scorched earth policy against the Whitehills, while Asher would probably disagree with that when poo poo finally hits the fan. Asher's hardly squeamish, at most he might not want Gwyn dead but otherwise he'll probably be happy to do some killing to help his House out. If anything, Roderick might have the problem that his healthier brother is back in town, possibly with mercenaries, ready to lead from the front and win people's respect - it might undermine Roderick's authority. Actually, that's a question. How will the game handle multiple perspective characters interacting? I don't think we've seen that yet, and I imagine we won't see it for a while since everyone's pretty spread out, but by the end of the season there's a very good chance some of these characters will cross paths. There are two protagonists in Tales From the Borderlands and that worked fine in the first episode, but it might be more challenging in Game of Thrones when people's motivations and intrigues are a little more nuanced. If there were tensions between Roderick and Asher, it might be a bit frustrating to only be allowed to control one of them while the other one says things you wouldn't have chosen.
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You say "menacing stare from a burned fucker", I say "loitering cripple". I had Roderick snap at him to "Move, now!" and what made it work was Roderick used a lord's voice - his face might be a ruin, but he still sounds like someone raised from birth for command and the soldier is still someone raised from birth to obey. Even if the stare might've worked, Talia failed to pick up on the cues and her stepping in for you might even have bailed the soldier out more than you. He gets to claim your sister is protecting you, and that's why he backed down, a face-saving excuse for him. Talia's not really in tune with the requirements of a lord. Edit - do we know anything at all about House Glenmore? Elaena is a Northerner, she played with Roderick as a child so they probably don't live far away, and they have enough troops to offset the Whitehills. Not much to go on, it'd be nice to know who their liege lord is - and come to think of it, where are the Glovers while all this is going on? You'd think the Boltons would have to go through them, not to mention when Deepwood Motte gets occupied by Ironborn that'd be a big issue! Dolash fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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That's one of Telltale's quirks. In the Walking Dead, logistics only ever entered into it for the sake of the plot and would disappear just as easily - you always had just enough bullets, unless you didn't. Likewise, I doubt we'll ever get a firm grasp on how many men the Forresters have, how much the Ironwood is worth, how much a half-share translates to, etc. The corpse cart could've been easily fixed by having the guy hauling bodies notice Roderick's alive back on the battlefield and decide he's going to sneak him out to get a fat reward from the Forresters, and could've even featured a similar "do something to show you're alive before it's too late" bit. I can gloss over it as a bit of sloppy writing, though, so long as the core character-driven stuff is still good. Teleporting Malcom isn't so much on Telltale just because if the story was going to tie in Essos at all it was going to have to overcome George's rough grasp of scale when he designed the setting. Hell, even communicating by raven with Mira so freely is a bit of a handwave. Also, can I ask again if anyone didn't ask Marg for a favor in episode 1 then got her to write the letter willingly in episode 2? Or do you always have to forge it?
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Wait holy poo poo tomorrow? Don't we usually get more forewarning? That's a decent turrnaround time though, or maybe I'm just feeling whiplash from the 4-month wait for Borderlands episode 2.
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A whole lot of fun, I'm left trying to figure out what possible outcomes/solutions will be available and whether it's better to commit to one early or try and keep your options open. Allying with the Glenmores seems more like the "fight the Whitehills" solution, but I think if you bide your time and work with Gwyn you might be able to end things peacefully. Maybe Roderick can marry her to unite the Houses, or Asher could when he returns. The whole "plan" started to click when it was laid out that Mira needed to find a buyer so the Forresters can get some money and Asher needs to bring an army they can pay with that money. After that, I can't imagine why anyone would burn the decree - there's no future in staying Margaery's handmaid, might as well try and make things interesting. It's looking like Gared and Cotter'll be out of the Night's Watch next episode regardless, since he's a Wildling and you'll be wanted for murdering a brother no matter what you do. I guess that might resolve the "Find the North Grove/Stick to your vows" problem, a bit easier than I expected. As for the traitor, I'm pretty sure it has to be the Maester - it's not about to be your mother and I think they're trying to play up how Duncan and Royland will feel cheated if they're not made Sentinel, but if Royland's Sentinel then Duncan'll still be trying to get Gared to find the North Grove, not something he'd try to do if he was selling the House out.
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Why would you ever burn the decree? I don't understand how that'd help at all.
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beefart posted:Also, I'm having second thoughts about Ortengryn being a double agent; he's outwardly shifty enough to make a good red herring. Mama Forrester's reaction to a potential ally within the Whitehills, on the other hand, was a little suspicious to me... I suppose it could make sense, since she's one of the people you can tell about the North Grove, and you can also choose to keep quiet about getting help from Gwyn and that there's allegedly a traitor on the council - all information she could use against you, if she was inclined. No idea why she'd be the traitor, though, unless they'd been threatening to kill Ryon unless she leaks stuff to them without telling you.
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Actually I heard authorial meddling had a significant impact on TWAU's delay, supposedly the mundane police were going to play a larger role in the story at first and Willingham didn't like that direction.
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Well, in terms of the plot, the lord you talk to at the wedding seems to imply that so long as you have the royal decree in-hand there's something you could actually do with it. He strikes me as a continuation of the "make side-deals to sell Ironwood" plot now that Tyrion's out, so the narrative at least is suggesting the contract could carry real weight. And let's be clear, while royalty can do what they like, they also don't always like mucking about with trade deals and council business. The contract was not between Mira and Tyrion, it was between House Forrester and the Master of Coin - Tyrion being arrested does not invalidate all of the King's business he conducted. If Mira can fly under the radar a little it'll carry the weight of law, the money will start being exchanged for the lumber and the bigwigs like Cersei will be more than busy enough to not give a poo poo about such trifling matters. The harder job would be a Whitehill interrupting Cersei in the midst of her grief and scheming to bleat about how the contract for Ironwood should go to them. That's why I thought keeping the letter was obvious. It's not exactly "evidence of your conspiring with Tyrion", loads of people did business with the Crown while he was Master of Coin. Marg might not be happy about your continued dealing, but she's not helping you much either and if the deal actually goes through you won't need her anymore (being a handmaid < securing your family's financial future). Worst comes to worst you throw it in your chest for later. Plus, while we haven't seen him lately Tywin's still in charge at this point and he won't care about messing up a functional arrangement over Cersei's mad lashing out. The new Master of Coin isn't appointed immediately and he's the forgettable Gyles Rosby, who also won't care.
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1st AD posted:Honestly I'm not sure that you can really trust anyone in GoT. I don't believe whatshername has the Forrester's best interests at heart, so I don't blame anyone for standing up. I think her motives don't have to be sinister, if she thinks her family is acting like pig-headed fools and getting people hurt or killed for no reason, that could be reason enough for her to go behind her father's back for real - especially if she's leery about the Whitehills riding high on the Boltons' new power and position. After all, if the Boltons should fall in favor then other Houses will remember what the Whitehills got up to when they had the chance. Being bullies and wrecking the forest is short-sighted. Likewise though, she isn't going to want you to make war on the Whitehills since the whole point is she's trying to keep her House from doing something stupid that'll hurt them in the long run. I think narratively her biggest job is to be a more reasonable Whitehill to contrast against the assholes who make up the rest of the family, otherwise it'd be too easy to see the Whitehills as monsters through and through and joyfully go about slaughtering the lot of them. Game of Thrones often brings up how dynasty politics makes innocent family-members targets, so if you want to act on your mother asking you to kill the Whitehills down to the children then they have to make that morally dubious. Having the one sympathetic family member we've met so far turn out to be another ploy would work against that.
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I wonder how they'll handle the wedding, considering you might not have secured the marriage? Game of Thrones seems to like having big, dramatic weddings so I'm not automatically inclined to believe it'll get broken up but maybe if you don't marry into the Glenmores you'll have some other betrothal opportunity instead? I still wouldn't be surprised if someone marrying Gwyn to create peace between the Whitehills and the Forresters is an option, her being the peace route while marrying Elaena to get her father's army is for war.
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I figured Poppa Whitehill probably specially chose Gryff and some of his nastiest, most brutish men to help make sure he gets the provocation he wants. Hell, he's probably hoping you kill Gryff (he's only a 4th-borne) and give him ample excuse to demolish your house and take the Ironwood.
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The Ironrath segments are my favourite, to be honest, and Roderick is my favourite character to play as. Then again I liked Robb a lot in the books and the show so it kind of feels like a chance to continue his (style of) story. As for the Whitehills, the problem in the Feudal system is families are enmeshed in politics, so if Daddy Whitehill is a monster but some of his family aren't, you can't really just take him out and expect even his chillest son and heir to be like "Yeah he was a dick, that's totally fair, let's be friends now". I think his daughter is trying to get things to end in peace without anyone having to kill anyone, but if push came to shove she'd still back her father even if he's not in the right because he's her father. Revenge on the Whitehills will involve killing a lot of people who are blameless, and even if you were to somehow just kill the ones to blame the rest would be angry with you anyway. It's peace or nothing. I think part of the reason they had Ramsay kill Ethan and not have Ludd do it is because it introduces a small element of ambiguity into the feud - Ludd even looks surprised when Ramsay does it, even if he does approve of it later. If Ludd had killed Ethan by his own hand and his own initiative then basically 100% of players would be out for his blood no matter how many women or children they had to go through, but making it Ramsay who did it slightly alters the direct blame.
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CottonWolf posted:I really think he's a Whitehill spy, setting you up for a massive fall, not working for Varys. The Whitehills don't come off as nearly that subtle or cunning. Damien was probably their man.
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While those of us with the Steam version get to play the "Is it updating yet? drat." game. I'm laying even odds that Gryff doesn't survive the episode.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:nice to see dany is as unlikable and stupid as she is in the show. why would she care if beskha kills her former master. While in the show and books she orders masters killed in retaliation for the killing of slave children, outside of killings she's specifically sanctioned it seems like she's keen to prevent a complete massacre of former slave-owners, their families, and really the whole of non-slave Mereen. If she lets people take vigilante justice out on whoever wronged them, she'll lose control. As for the episode, I really liked it, it felt like it ran longer than expected because quite a lot went down. In particular, I liked the Mira scene at the coronation party, it was fun figuring things out and foiling Andros's plans was very satisfying, probably my favorite part of her story so far. I thought Asher's story was good for fleshing out Mereen, Dany's army and the issues surrounding the slaves, since that plotline in the show goes by somewhat quickly and having a "ground level" perspective on it helped (plus Metal Gear Solid-ing the whole outpost was great). I'd thought you'd do more bartering using knowledge of Drogon's whereabouts, but that got kind of dropped. The only really bleh point was Ramsay returning. He was okay to help set the scene in the first episode, but his explicit plot protection turns his slasher villain act into more like the spiteful hand of author fiat, since unlike while you're dealing with the Whitehills you know for a fact he's untouchable. Well, unless Telltale decide to do something hilarious and actually give you the option to kill him, then allow that to turn your game into an alternate universe that somehow looks the same but every so often someone makes idle mention of the shitstorm going down in Winterfell.
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