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KyloWinter posted:conquest matchmaker would make this game a+ Oh yeah, no doubt. I think as far as goon play, we could make a table and randomly select our opponents and scenarios, like the tabletop game.
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The controls, interface and camera of this game are total garbage
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 17:36 |
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Megadyptes posted:The controls, interface and camera of this game are total garbage ya they are pretty bad this game needs matchmaker and more warbands to be good imo
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 19:17 |
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So, we could do a goon league by everyone creating a new warband, and then just doing a randomized round robin. This is basically what goons did with blood bowl, and all it really requires is people not being douches. Given the relatively small number of people playing Mordheim/the number of different warbands available, I'd say 8 people would be a good number for a league, with everyone playing one game a week. As for the overall player level stuff, people can dump extra starting gold or what have you so it's all even, or if we're all at about the same level we can just play as-is. Regardless, I can throw together a player/league/schedule database and frontend site so that people can set their availabilities and enter battle results without having to continually clutter up the thread. The best time to start is probably January, but I can put the site together before then. Who all is interested, and what format do you think would work best?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 19:55 |
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yeah god forbid this 6 page thread gets too cluttered can't we just copy the bloodbowl league system?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 20:29 |
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well doesnt your warband get knocked out after 4 losses?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:00 |
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Does it?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:12 |
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if you fail 4 shipments your warband retires, had to look it up
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:13 |
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KyloWinter posted:if you fail 4 shipments your warband retires, had to look it up Ah yeah, but those shipments usually lie a few weeks apart from each other. As long as you get over the initial hump, you'll have plenty of room for error there.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:21 |
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On the fence about getting this, mostly due to the fact that my current laptop isn't the greatest. Does anyone here have experience running it on a lowtier laptop? Could anyone tell me if it would be playable with the following specs: 4gb ram Amd-A64400M APU with Radeon HD graphics (2x2.7ghz) AMD Radeon HD 7520G (integrated) Obviously, the graphics are the weak spot here as it is integrated. I am rather hesitant to throw all my money at the game before knowing if i have a chance to play it or not.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:27 |
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Jaroslav posted:On the fence about getting this, mostly due to the fact that my current laptop isn't the greatest. Gimme a bit, I'll download it on mine and tell you how it goes. It's not too well optimised, so don't get your hopes too high.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:46 |
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Perestroika posted:Gimme a bit, I'll download it on mine and tell you how it goes. It's not too well optimised, so don't get your hopes too high. Aight, thanks man
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 21:52 |
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As a Mordheim: City of the Damned owner, I cannot recommend you purchase this game at this time.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 22:01 |
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this game is trash and it would take enough work to make it good that they would be better served just making mordheim 2.KyloWinter posted:if you fail 4 shipments your warband retires, had to look it up any league would be over before your second shipment was due. What usually ends my warbands is (1) i am chaos and (2) my magister and backup magister are both injured
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 22:39 |
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So, not worth it then? I've been loving Vermintide and this looked like a potentially cool game in the same setting.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 22:58 |
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I want to like this game because a Warhammer XCOM would be great, but it makes me feel miserable. The combat is obtuse in a way that not even Blood Bowl comes close to. I've tried to get past the first few missions hoping I'd climb the learning curve, but even when I'm not losing my first fights, I still don't get any sense of accomplishment. It feels like work, not fun. Collect rocks. Deliver rocks. Repeat.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 23:01 |
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the act of picking up a wyrdstone on it's own is enough to make me never want to play this game.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 23:03 |
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Normal Adult Human posted:this game is trash and it would take enough work to make it good that they would be better served just making mordheim 2. Well, clearly it's completely unworkable no matter what and we should close this thread and then uninstall the game. Your contributions are useful, valuable, and well-considered, definitely not threadshitting.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 23:11 |
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Jaroslav posted:Aight, thanks man Alright, I tested it one my laptop which has Intel i5-5200U CPU (2.7 Ghz) Intel HD Graphics 5500 (integrated) 4 GB RAM And it was... technically playable, I guess? On lowest details it managed to stay reasonably close to 30fps, but in return it looked like absolute rear end. I'm not really too up to date when it comes to internal GPUs but I think the Intel is a bit stronger than the AMD. So I'd say it's probably best if you held off.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 23:12 |
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my effigy burns posted:Well, clearly it's completely unworkable no matter what and we should close this thread and then uninstall the game. Your contributions are useful, valuable, and well-considered, definitely not threadshitting. It's a bad game that isn't worth half of it's listed price im sorry that hurts your feelings for some reason, product lover.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 04:33 |
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when i played this with early access i thought "well gee its pretty shallow and clunky but they'll tune that up a bit" they never tuned it up. its a bad mix of obtuse and shallow. its not worth half an xcom. the 1994 xcom.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 04:48 |
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i agree. game has a lot of neat ideas but they didnt translate it well from tabeltop to pc
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 09:49 |
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I really like it, but I tend to play it and watch something on another screen at the same time. I couldn't imagine playing it and not doing anything else.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 13:24 |
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I like it for what it is, I agree on the price. The controls are also clunky. And every combat feels pretty much identical. I guess maybe I don't like it.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 14:08 |
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For all its flaws, I do like it. And I am interested in the goon league. I'm interested in what you come up with as far as a way to randomize our mission types and matchups.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 17:11 |
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I would like this game alot more if you got more from losses. Me and my brother have played 15-20 games against each other now and it's become blatantly obvious that winning the game as skaven is nearly impossible. I can collect wyrdstone first but good luck ever winning a fight unless you can get 2 or 3 pick offs first. Once my brother learned to just have his guys run around in a massive deathball I haven't won a game since. It would be better if you didn't have to end every single game by fighting. Sure you can run around and gather goodies before fighting but eventually your only option is to fight, and then whoever goes down mostly gets some hideous injury and gently caress you. I can't even advance my warband at all in multiplayer, even if you pull a 50% winrate overall you actually lose ground from the instanely high rate of crippling injuries and deaths. For all it's flaws bloodbowl is such a better game than this at the moment.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 00:16 |
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I would like to state that I bought this game, played it for an hour and promptly requested a steam refund. Nothing about this game is fun or good. Warbands are customizable in only a cosmetic sense. TL;DR everything about this game blows.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 00:24 |
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I'm interested in this game, but I'm wary. I love the WFRP 2e pen and paper game, but the only Warhammer tabletop game I've played that's been transliterated to pc is Blood Bowl, and I really couldn't get into the style of gameplay. All I want to know is this: 1: I read earlier that the have uses dice rolls to accomplish things (climbing, hitting, etc). Dies it do this off a d100 system lie in wfrp 2e, or does it use the traditional dice system associated with Warhammer tabletop? Or is it it's own thing? 2: Is the turn based combat like final fantasy tactics? It's the last strategy game I've played/enjoyed, so the comparisons to xcom (and company) kind of go over my head
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 00:36 |
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The turned based combat is like you have to hold down the "W" key to move for some reason in lieu of using a mouse topdown. The camera is stuck over your shoulder and even if you zoom out its confusing as gently caress. Only if you had the hardest of hardons for the tabletop by-blow of Warhammer Fantasy that is Mordheim, should you buy and play this game. Do you enjoy dogshit controls, camera and UI? Do you enjoy random spawns and getting loving curbstomped because of a two-sentence narrative? Do you like a thin veil of customization, like being able to change a shirt from black to purple but touted as full customizable?
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 00:56 |
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It might be a good game later on, but the start is such a slog. During early access (So they may have improved it) i made a sisters warband. Combat was just marching up to someone and fighting, there wasn't a lot of options for equipment or even for skills. This was made worse by the random map and enemy placement (Some scenarios you will be grouped up, some scenarios you will be spread out). Tactics came down to just doing 2 on 1s, never fight the enemy in a fair fight. I heard things get "better" when you lvl up your warband but i couldn't get through the slog. The meta game of paying for your warband would of been fun if I had gotten more abilities, or more anything really. It was just generic guys buying generic weapons. That was the level of customization offered. If you are interested in the game I suggest you download a demo and play it. Do not play as sisters as I found out they are the most bland. If no demo is available play it for 1/2 hours and then see if you are satisifed. If you aren't then request a refund.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 01:20 |
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Apeshit Sixfingers posted:I'm interested in this game, but I'm wary. I love the WFRP 2e pen and paper game, but the only Warhammer tabletop game I've played that's been transliterated to pc is Blood Bowl, and I really couldn't get into the style of gameplay. 1) It uses a d100 system IIRC 2) No, god no, no no no. There are no skills really, you cant cast magic. There are no tiles either, it uses a system like Makai Kingdom for movement. It all comes down to your weapon and the actions are "Ambush","Attack","Attack real hard","Range attack"
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 01:24 |
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Nah there are magic and skills and stuff. Though most of your run of the mill dudes don't start with any. You can teach active or passive skills when they level up and with a bit of focus you can turn your base guys into specified roles. I have a guy dedicated to running fast and climbing poo poo to get to all the wyrdstone first, as well as another guy who uses pistols to murder anything and everything insight, and then a bunch of meatshield guys I have to spread around to give that guy space to fire. Though I will say with low rank warbands you pretty much just run up and bash at each other and hope it all works out, unfortunately it takes so drat long to get to a high rank warband by doing that. It's almost like the best way to enjoy the game is to play single player until you have a rank 4 warband and friends with a rank 4 warband and then bash those two teams together when you have a few more tactical options to make. In bloodbowl when you lose a game you still get an MVP exp bonus, as well as any spp you earned throughout the game, you will still probably win money and most of your players won't be injured, in fact serious debilitating injuries are pretty rare. You can get up to a high tv value just by going 0-25 if you really sucked in bloodbowl. In this game it feels like you get nothing when you lose, unless you managed to put a reasonable amount of wyrdstone in the cart before you die, or the people who are carrying it don't eat dirt. There's just such a high chance of taking really really bad debilitating injuries, and yet the rewards when you lose are so slim.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 02:01 |
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if you are thinking about buying this game because fantasy themed team builder and development game where you can bash in your opponents heads and possibly kill them, you should get blood bowl.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 06:18 |
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Exmond posted:1) It uses a d100 system IIRC drat, my hopes are dashed.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 08:28 |
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Hope they release Fun as a dlc later on or this game is doomed.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 08:51 |
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Apeshit Sixfingers posted:I'm interested in this game, but I'm wary. I love the WFRP 2e pen and paper game, but the only Warhammer tabletop game I've played that's been transliterated to pc is Blood Bowl, and I really couldn't get into the style of gameplay. Whatever unit is has the highest initiative moves first regardless of team. You move a guy with WASD and tell him what to do, then the game rolls for hit-chance. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Nov 24, 2015 |
# ? Nov 24, 2015 09:17 |
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Last time I played I killed two skavens without any of my guys falling, and then spent the next 20 turns running around the map trying to find the other three. I gave up around turn 30.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 09:20 |
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That is the point when you just steal everything out of their chest and take their idol. Taking their idol causes a huge morale crash so you probably could've dropped them under the threshold that way.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 18:10 |
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Apparently you cannot put stuff into the other warband's chest, and I was loaded up with Wyrdstone, because I had to do something while waiting for the other dudes to appear. So my dudes refused to take the idol.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 18:34 |
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their chest and their idol are two different loot targets that are just far enough apart that you cannot select between the two of them.
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