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Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014



Human Grand Prix posted:

Mitsubishi is very Asia/Europe focused, they have never been popular in the Americas. Canada didn't even get them (technically) until 2003. FYI Honda is very popular in Canada, the Civic has been the best selling car for the last 5000 years.

It's the same in Australia - civics and corollas

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Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

LOOK AT THIS SANDWICH I MADE, IT IS AN HOMAGE TO MY FAVOURITE FORMULA ONE TEAM - WILLIAMS GRAND PRIX. I USED A RENTED FORD SIERRA, UPSIDE DOWN BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS MY INSIPIRATION.


Jon Von Anchovi posted:

It's the same in Australia - civics and corollas

Corolla is Toyota. Get out.

The Sweet Hereafter
Jan 11, 2010


Actually the correct procedure now that Toyota have joined the thread should be for them to spend ridiculous amounts of money trying to catch up with everything we've said, attempting to replicate it in a worst thread of their own, and eventually for them to realise they'll never get it right and have blown a fortune trying and then gently caress off.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



Someone needs to go stick the wrong/outdated driver flags on the Footwork Arrows results list in order to cause drama on the talk page about whether anyone of them will change their citizenship before they die

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless


Footwork made some neat looking cars.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005



Grimey Drawer

be nice wicka posted:

my god, they're smaller than suzuki in europe

Wtf Honda are massive in europe, the civic, cr-v and fit/jazz are all made in the uk.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty



True but their UK market share is about 2%. (Suzuki is about 1.5% fwiw). That's lower than Kia, Skoda, Hyundai, Mini, Peugeot, Fiat, Citroen, Nissan, Renault, SEAT...

Dudley fucked around with this message at Jan 5, 2015 around 09:08

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Still me @ youre poasting
HD Edition


I wonder if Honda's market share would still be that low if they continued to badge engineer with Rover, instead of Rover going to BMW in the early 90s

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty



It's not an answer but MG's market share is 0.09%.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



MG is Chinese

monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007



Fun Shoe

I was just saying to my wife yesterday, ' I still like Honda I just wish they made more interesting cars at the moment'. I used to have a Type R but I'm too old for another and there isn't really a decent Accord when you compare them to other brand's offerings. If they still made the S2K I'd be throwing cash at them.

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


monkeytennis posted:

I was just saying to my wife yesterday, ' I still like Honda I just wish they made more interesting cars at the moment'. I used to have a Type R but I'm too old for another and there isn't really a decent Accord when you compare them to other brand's offerings. If they still made the S2K I'd be throwing cash at them.

We've had a Civic Aerodeck and an Accord Estate. Both brilliant cars. We've got a Nissan Note at the moment (due to children and a dog) but I'd go back to Honda in an instant.

This thread is now completely derailed so here's a photo of Jos Verstappen with sponges for ears

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

LOOK AT THIS SANDWICH I MADE, IT IS AN HOMAGE TO MY FAVOURITE FORMULA ONE TEAM - WILLIAMS GRAND PRIX. I USED A RENTED FORD SIERRA, UPSIDE DOWN BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS MY INSIPIRATION.


Jean-Pierre Beltoise died.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty



That's harsh, the sponge pic wasn't that bad.

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'

Wirth1000 posted:

Jean-Pierre Beltoise died.

I know who that is

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011



Dudley posted:

True but their UK market share is about 2%. (Suzuki is about 1.5% fwiw). That's lower than Kia, Skoda, Hyundai, Mini, Peugeot, Fiat, Citroen, Nissan, Renault, SEAT...

KIA and Hyundai are the same company, by the way.

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

If we're gonna play that game then so are Skoda and SEAT, Peugeot and Citroen and arguably Renault and Nissan.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Different companies, Hyundai bought into Kia.
Just like VW bought audi, skoda, lamborghini and bugatti. Just like fiat bought into ferrari.

You Am I posted:

I wonder if Honda's market share would still be that low if they continued to badge engineer with Rover, instead of Rover going to BMW in the early 90s

That's what did the damage probably. If honda never went into bed with rover, they may be more liked over there.

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Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty



Yeah it's more a "Brand" share than a "Manufacturer" share.

Needless to say, VW themselves are well, well ahead.

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

"Old lovers".

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'

Sulman posted:

"Old lovers".



lol is that an official thing?

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


Sulman posted:

"Old lovers".



The sort of "old lover" that grassed you up to the authorities for having illegal stuff on your laptop then dumped you for their old lover straight afterwards.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



When it said Old Lovers I thought Sutil and Hammy were getting back together

the kentucky quid
Jan 19, 2014



Lexus poured millions into the development of a BMW and Mercedes fighter for their launch vehicle.

Acura made a joint venture with Rover.

And Honda complains they aren't taken seriously.

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

El Hefe posted:

lol is that an official thing?

It's from McLaren's Google+ account.

And now you've made me admit I use google+

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007

Raor.


Dudley posted:

Yeah it's more a "Brand" share than a "Manufacturer" share.

Needless to say, VW themselves are well, well ahead.

VW is like the GM of Europe, but better managed and slightly less poo poo.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Opel and vauxhall are the GM of Europe, and they are poo poo.
VW are cheap everyday cars in Europe, and overpriced everywhere outside of Europe, so they are also poo poo. (Probably cheap in the US like everything else is, so your opinion may be different to mine)

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the kentucky quid
Jan 19, 2014



Its not hard to see the VW empire falling apart GM style in a 10-20 years. They've got good brand equity in a lot of their brands but platform sharing will slowly erode that.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





Mitsubishi motors is just the small poor pet project side of one of Japan's biggest mega-companies, it's only a question of how long the main company wants to keep them afloat. I think it's still a manner of pride for them too, they don't want to shutter something even if it's below par. I just wish they would make interesting cars and trucks again.

Same goes for Honda. But at least the Fit is selling like gangbusters.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Like honda and rover, shame mitsubishi got in bed with chysler.
Here in Aus, Mits started out by taking over old Chrysler plants, and inherited their stuff.
Currently in our market they have the colt (not like the old one we all know and hate, but a honda jazz style car), lancer (not the old one, the upsized one that used to be the galant), vans/minivans, ute (triton), and 4x4 (pajero), used to have a medium/large family car (magna/380 - - ie camry type car), but that died.
But I've never liked mits anyway... Some galants and evos were cool, but they seem never be quite as good as the competition in everything they did. Half arsed or not just 'there' so didn't pick up many fans compared to the rest. Not really sure why, it could be the chrysler connection as I said, could be they keep their old names about and brings a bad taste. Time for new names Mits!
Here in Aus the old chrylser/mits sigma is one of the last cheap light 1980s RWD mobiles still somewhat available. People are eating that poo poo up and doing all sorts of v8 or other engine transplants into them for sleepers/fast drag cars. e: Of course they are only going for sigmas because all the toyotas, datsuns, mazdas, escorts, cortinas are now $15k+ cars and there's nothing left RWD as far as small/medium light cars.
E: Some of the reasons why I hate them, severely dated in every way. I can't believe how long they kept around the death trap l300 van, also that van and lancers/mirages in the mid 1990s still running carbs instead of EFI.

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JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 36 hours!


best mitsubishis:

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'

Mitsubishis are pretty good cars though

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000


Sulman posted:

It's from McLaren's Google+ account.
They would have assumed no one would ever see it, then

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


Some guy on reddit got Christian Haliwell to sign "that photo"

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/c...edbull_factory/

enri
Dec 15, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day



So! It's January!... bacon briefcases must be imminent as must the big car reveals, can someone remind me if there was any ruling made on the noses again? or can we expect vaguely sensible looking cars once again?

Big Huski Boi
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.

enri posted:

So! It's January!... bacon briefcases must be imminent as must the big car reveals, can someone remind me if there was any ruling made on the noses again? or can we expect vaguely sensible looking cars once again?

yes they will look somewhat like the ferrari nose but less anteater-y

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

LOOK AT THIS SANDWICH I MADE, IT IS AN HOMAGE TO MY FAVOURITE FORMULA ONE TEAM - WILLIAMS GRAND PRIX. I USED A RENTED FORD SIERRA, UPSIDE DOWN BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS MY INSIPIRATION.


El Hefe posted:

I know who that is

Well.... SOMEBODY hasn't watched all the Duke Video Season Reviews of the 1970s.

enri
Dec 15, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day



be nice wicka posted:

yes they will look somewhat like the ferrari nose but less anteater-y

Hrm, didn't mind the Ferrari one so much, preferred Mclaren and Mercedes collective efforts but eh, the Ferrari is a grower

Big Huski Boi
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.

enri posted:

Hrm, didn't mind the Ferrari one so much, preferred Mclaren and Mercedes collective efforts but eh, the Ferrari is a grower

grower not a shower, eh? EH?

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Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless


El Hefe posted:

I know who that is

He won the last race for BRM.

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