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Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

be nice wicka posted:

craig scarborough did a video series on youtube with peter windsor where he analyzes all the new chassis. apparently the sauber is basically just their 2014 car with the simplest, cheapest nose that fits the new regulations. that's p sad.

I think they said they did a lot of work with internals.

This is how it used to be, though. No shame in cheap iterations of older cars. F1 has been a bit daft about this for years.

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Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty



ukle posted:

Finishing the championship will be achievement for them, FI and Sauber.

Yeah. I assume it's a typo and their target was to finish 1/3rd of the championship.

They've hidden their lack of sponsors well actually but when you realise Genii is them and EMC might just be over represented in lieu of new sponsors we have totally signed you guys then it's a very thin car.

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012





When the good Reverend is WDC we will remember these days with fondness.

Payndz
Sep 22, 2006

They smelled of pubs, and Wormwood Scrubs, and too many right-wing meetings.

So I twatted them with a magic yo-yo. Because, hell, why not?


be nice wicka posted:

craig scarborough did a video series on youtube with peter windsor where he analyzes all the new chassis. apparently the sauber is basically just their 2014 car with the simplest, cheapest nose that fits the new regulations. that's p sad.
Probably explains why their livery just sort of gives up at the rear. It saves a valuable 87 francs per car!

Gmaz
Apr 3, 2011


Button 14 seconds slower than Alonso on the previous day, what a poo poo driver!

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless


Sulman posted:

I think they said they did a lot of work with internals.

This is how it used to be, though. No shame in cheap iterations of older cars. F1 has been a bit daft about this for years.

If the car was y 'know, good it might be understandable but it's not. I'm just as baffled at McLaren developing the previous year's car.

the kentucky quid
Jan 19, 2014



Human Grand Prix posted:

If the car was y 'know, good it might be understandable but it's not. I'm just as baffled at McLaren developing the previous year's car.

But the Honda engine is going to power the car to victory unlike that dog poo poo Mercedes engine.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin




This is the season's "before" pic while they're still friends. BOLD PREDICTION: 5 races before an incident makes them stop talking to each other.

Mercedes, would it have killed you to use more colour and less 90's fade effects in your livery? I guess thanks for not adding lens flares. This would have been much cooler:



And McLaren... Please do this:

Rhopunzel
Jan 6, 2006

Stroll together, win together


CratSock posted:

This is the season's "before" pic while they're still friends. BOLD PREDICTION: 5 races before an incident makes them stop talking to each other.

Mercedes, would it have killed you to use more colour and less 90's fade effects in your livery? I guess thanks for not adding lens flares. This would have been much cooler:



And McLaren... Please do this:



The McLaren one isn't distinctive at all and looks like a Super Aguri livery. Papaya orange/white/red would look good. Or Marlboro despite what the thread thinks.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?


CratSock posted:

And McLaren... Please do this:


Super Aguri 2.0

Which is apt, really.

RALF
Mar 15, 2009



Grimey Drawer

Another good day for The Scud. Looks like the title fight's gonna be between Ferrari and Sauber this year.

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

RALF posted:

Another good day for The Scud. Looks like the title fight's gonna be between Ferrari and Sauber this year.

I'm trying to make sense of that because last year Sauber were nowhere at Jerez, and this is ostensibly the same car. Presumably even if they were running light it can't be that bad; I'd assume they would have tried the same thing in 2014.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


The difference is that Sauber have made two important changes.

E: Verstappen stops by briefly at his home, Area 51:

HJB fucked around with this message at Feb 2, 2015 around 17:36

simble
May 11, 2004



Are there any current liveries that people in this thread actually like? You're all the worst. gently caress all of you.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

LOOK AT THIS SANDWICH I MADE, IT IS AN HOMAGE TO MY FAVOURITE FORMULA ONE TEAM - WILLIAMS GRAND PRIX. I USED A RENTED FORD SIERRA, UPSIDE DOWN BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS MY INSIPIRATION.


simble posted:

Are there any current liveries that people in this thread actually like? You're all the worst. gently caress all of you.

Wow. A single post in this thread and that's it? Not even a chance to answer? How about this, idiot fucker...

Williams

Martini

Racing

simble
May 11, 2004



Quick, now someone make an innuendo joke involving Claire Williams!

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!

simble posted:

Quick, now someone make an innuendo joke involving Claire Williams!

It's claire that your williams is very small.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3392 days!


captainOrbital posted:

It's claire that your williams frank is very small.

Ftfy.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless


simble posted:

Are there any current liveries that people in this thread actually like? You're all the worst. gently caress all of you.

I like the Sauber Livery. I have said this more than once.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless


Falken posted:

Super Aguri 2.0

Which is apt, really.

Why not.

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

simble posted:

Are there any current liveries that people in this thread actually like? You're all the worst. gently caress all of you.

Don't let appearances fool you. This is the greatest F1 forum on the internet.

RALF
Mar 15, 2009



Grimey Drawer

Human Grand Prix posted:

I like the Sauber Livery. I have said this more than once.

Me too. Mostly because I love colors

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011



Sulman posted:

Don't let appearances fool you. This is the greatest F1 forum on the internet.

The alternatives being Autosport, Sky, Reddit and Joe Saward's blog comments.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin



Sure, we all have ideas about what the liveries should and shouldn't be, but it's all part of the pre-season fun. Leave us alone, and continue to lurk for our collective wisdom and insight.

Most of them are fine, but none of them are really anything special. I like the Sauber for being identifiable at least. That and the Ferrari are at least easy to spot at a glance. Oh, and the Williams, I don't think anyone else has done white.

RALF
Mar 15, 2009



Grimey Drawer

If you want to lose some brain cells I recommend reading the last pages of the McLaren thread on the Autosport forum. Compared to them this is the greatest f1 discussion board on earth.

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?


This thread is not as good as the Merc F1 team facebook site but it's not bad

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin



RALF posted:

If you want to lose some brain cells I recommend reading the last pages of the McLaren thread on the Autosport forum. Compared to them this is the greatest f1 discussion board on earth.

You saying that guy's grandma's uncle isn't a legitimate source on the potential of the new Honda McLaren's pace? Quit trollin' bro.

RALF
Mar 15, 2009



Grimey Drawer

CratSock posted:

You saying that guy's grandma's uncle isn't a legitimate source on the potential of the new Honda McLaren's pace? Quit trollin' bro.

He's a slightly more legitimate source than Ron Dennis, but otherwise no.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


Dudley posted:

Yeah. I assume it's a typo and their target was to finish 1/3rd of the championship.

They've hidden their lack of sponsors well actually but when you realise Genii is them and EMC might just be over represented in lieu of new sponsors we have totally signed you guys then it's a very thin car.

I've always heard that the Microsoft Dynamics deal isn't actually bringing in any cash either.

simble
May 11, 2004



Sulman posted:

Don't let appearances fool you. This is the greatest F1 forum on the internet.

Unfortunate truth.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx


Alain Post posted:

I've always heard that the Microsoft Dynamics deal isn't actually bringing in any cash either.

They're saving on license fees using that piece of poo poo, so that's something.

the kentucky quid
Jan 19, 2014



Alain Post posted:

I've always heard that the Microsoft Dynamics deal isn't actually bringing in any cash either.

I'd assume its pretty similar to the Dell Caterham deal. "Have some computers we have laying around and let us put your name on our car."

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin



At what point do the teams have enough information about the 2016 rules to start focusing on that car? Seems like a viable strategy for some of the known midpackers.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty



Alain Post posted:

I've always heard that the Microsoft Dynamics deal isn't actually bringing in any cash either.

Wouldn't surprise me, it's getting their other sponsors into TV ads for free, so it's useful for attracting them.

In theory.

MustardFacial
Jun 19, 2011

Feels Good. Tastes Better.




quote:

Button was finishing top 5 every other race at the end of the season, compared to around 10th at the start, and they've fixed all of the massive downforce imbalance issues and reduced the drag they had last season from the high nose and butterfly suspension

I wouldn't be surprised with them managing second place with the Merc engine.

hahaha, Reddit

Myrddin_Emrys
Mar 27, 2007

by Lowtax


captainOrbital posted:

It's claire that your frank doesn't work how it used too.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky



phwoar now that's a proper helmet from "super" seb vettel showing the grid how a real helmet should look like

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky



mmm that's not a bad design either, much better than Big Pastor's old helmets. maybe helmet designers are getting sane this year.

Myrddin_Emrys
Mar 27, 2007

by Lowtax


Alain Post posted:


phwoar now that's a proper helmet from "super" seb vettel showing the grid how a real helmet should look like

I have to admit, that's the best one he has had to date.

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Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014



Myrddin_Emrys posted:

I have to admit, that's the best one he has had to date.

Quite lucky that the german flag has Ferrari red on it!

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