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If you're willing to invest some time on it, I think he also gets into it in detail on his episode of the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast. I haven't listened to it, but remember it coming up in this thread.
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Or some old crazy corruption stories. He's talked about doing Teapot Dome in the past, and that'd be something new.
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I think Kellogg is a good start, since it's one of the funnier ones but also features a good breakdown on the quackery. Things like, it's interesting that he was one of the first to understand the importance of probiotics and the use of yogurt to help with digestion problems...but he decided that yogurt enemas were the only way to do it. That and a deeper dive into his weird True Detective "let's all go hand and hand into the sunset" belief on 100% celibacy for the human race (unless I'm mixing my quacks up).
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Episode 30 (The Taxidermist) laid some groundwork too, I think, with Gareth shocked at the ridiculous nature documentary scenes that were being put on hats.
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It kind of feels like if he's really settled on doing a 10-minute ad block that he may as well just lean into it and just do shoutouts instead. Let fans pay $50-$100 to rattle off insides jokes and memes. A lot of smaller podcasts seem to have a limitless supply of nerds ready to pay and no worries if anyone skips them.
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Jul 31, 2018 22:34
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If you're alright with some gory descriptions, the series that they just did on the Donner Party is basically a long Dollop.
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Sadly "Hong Kong Henry" was more of a recurring joke from the early days, although in the thinnest defense the punchline was always that he was just doing it to embarrass himself and the people around him. And it seems to be thankfully retired and Henry's calmed down a lot. Trump getting elected shook him up, although a stable relationship and therapy probably aren't hurting. The real canary in the coal mine for LPOTL conspiracy or paranormal episodes is whether Marcus believes in it. Henry as a street preacher can still be funny, but Marcus and Henry legitimately defending a dumb poltergeist story or abduction can be hell. It's why it's so sad that they were into chaos magick when they did the episodes on it. I've thought about starting a Last Podcast network thread, but I'm not sure there'd be enough interest to keep it going.
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Oct 5, 2018 20:31
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Also that he put in tremendous effort to basically re-invent the slimfast or ensure shake except for tech bros. And the fun thing I learned that Scott Adams beat him to it back in the 90s with the loving Dilberito, which I thought was a joke until I read the articles about it. It was also designed as a basically flavorless nutrient pouch for people who just don't want to waste time eating.
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Aug 7, 2019 02:42
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The big one was that there were a couple were Dave flagrantly just read an existing article. I think The Three Jesuses was the worst where the writer put the transcript and article side-by-side with highlighting to make it clear. And it was a bigger deal since drat Interesting did their own struggling podcast where someone read their articles, so it wasn't like Dave was doing them a service. Mostly it's just insane that Dave doesn't just loving pay a researcher or reach out to pay the authors. They've got the budget for it. Or just do what Last Podcast on the Left do and advertise the book heavily in cases like this. Leave out a few anecdotes and the author's usually happy to see the boost.
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It's hard to top the binge listening experience of hearing Henry legitimately tank a relationship over about 2 months because he just had to keep waking her up to talk about UFO books.
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Well for the one that the complaint was about, The Welfare Queen, there were 3 sources. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/welfare-queen-myth/501470/ http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/gabfest/2013/12/the_gabfest_on_judge_richard_leon_s_nsa_ruling_ruth_bader_ginsburg_s_refusal.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...an_villain.html And yeah, that's 2 mostly fluff and one that was the clear meat. So, in that case, they could just point out that it's a cool article. Although, yes I got it mixed up too. I thought that episode was out like a year ago and cribbed off of the book, but it's a few years older. Times flies and has lost all meaning, etc.. So the guy's complaint is specifically that they made a popular episode a while back that heavily cribbed off an article that he later turned into a book, and they got a lot of credit and money and he didn't. Which seems to be more a general failing of the world than The Dollop.
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I still think that it's funny that that site is supposed to be positive advertising for SquareSpace. An old-school blog would probably look better.
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Aug 28, 2019 00:22
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It's very normal for podcasts dealing with history, even comedy ones, to take 30 seconds to give a quick shout out or recommendation of a good book. Some people even like further reading recommendations. Given all the other dumb bullshit that they waste time on I don't see how it's a big deal. He's not reading the whole source list, just calling out the main ones. And the author who complained muddled it a bit with book sale complaints, but his point was that a lot of people were still recommending Dave's welfare queen episode and treating it as if he researched it himself. Because, surprise, most people aren't going to gently caress around with going to a Squarespace subsite to look at a list of sources and figure out who really put the research together that Dave just read off. We talked it to death already, and obviously it's not Dave's fault that people are kind of lazy and care more about comedy podcasts than history articles, but a shout out costs nothing more than 30 extra seconds on a podcast that's not exactly tight anyway. Also it looks like Dave is bothering to site Main and Other categories on the sources site, which is nice. Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Sep 19, 2019 |
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Sep 19, 2019 19:14
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He's not "reading out the sources." He's highlighting the main source or two. He's also doing this on the sources website which makes it much more readable. It's also better than just vomiting out a high school bibliography on the site and not clarifying the article/book that he got 90% of the material from. It's also basically no extra work, I don't understand what's the big deal.
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Sep 19, 2019 21:11
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I'll put one down for the Clintons. I don't think he'd do Epstein because it's too dark. Maybe one of the big race riots though.
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^ The West Wing Thing. There was a savage article politically reviewing The West Wing that pointed out that Sheen's presidency didn't actually accomplish anything. He gave up a chance to own the Supreme Court. There were no apparent foreign policy victories. The only landmark piece of legislation is a vague "Homeless" bill, and the conceit of the show is that they have a supermajority and an insane voter mandate (with some ridiculous electoral college map). The point was that even in what's essentially neoliberal/centrist/"debate me" porn they didn't actually achieve anything. Even in dream fiction they're worthless, oppressed failures. Probably some corollary to the religious right and their oppression porn genre of films.
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Oct 3, 2019 23:13
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I'd heard the drowning thing happened on similar logic to the stories of the old Christian Samaritan cultists who intentionally tried to get martyred to guarantee their way to heaven. Drowning didn't seem like a big deal, because if they were drowned proving their innocence and purity it was a golden ticket to heaven. But it could definitely be a thing of legends getting written down as fact.
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Oct 20, 2019 02:30
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Anytime I hear a dumb nickname, I think back to Patton slowly going insane over the terrible nicknames in the Corbett episode and smile.
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Oct 23, 2019 01:28
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In fairness to Dave, if you're a leftist you're probably online enough to be unable to ignore all the really lovely takes from centrist Dems who immediately went knives out for the left. Still probably a good idea to ease off unless you're actively involved in that discourse at a level that matters.
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He's all over the MaxFun network so he's pretty connected to a lot of podcasts and apparently Dave. He does music for a lot of them too. Alongside the Ken Jennings podcast he also does a war movies podcast with the Greatest Generation guys that I was just getting ready to check out. My Brother, My Brother and Me already announced that they're distancing themselves from him and getting new theme music. All cause he had to post about those beans.
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Yeah, I don't think it's healthy to wallow in the doomerism, even if I generally agree with it. But it's pretty inevitable with a West Wing podcast (which is why I've put off picking it up). It's ground zero for the most obnoxious stuff in our political system and it's going to generally strike nerves. If you're worried for practical reasons, I wouldn't worry too much. The line for actionable threats is pretty far off from what was quoted and it's well-established. The listeners probably like the anger overall and find it cathartic, like Dave. I know there used to be concerns about angry leftists having their Patreons pulled, but I don't think it's happened to anyone yet. And Dave's had similar meltdowns before so I don't know if it's anything "new."
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Eh, most of the really long videos are just podcasts that want to monetize through YouTube. At most you're second-screening them or "watching" them in little bits and Youtube is like 75% good at remembering your spot. Not much different than a podcast. That said I haven't touched it, feel like I got the gist of it from seeing people talk about it and lol at a 4 hour video tearing down people that I didn't watch. The main thing that was frustrating with Dave's plagiarism, especially when he was just lifting huge chunks, was that for most of them he probably could have just chucked the writer a few hundred and maybe a shoutout and been fine. Going off of memory but the one guy he lifted a whole article or two from implied he ended up paid and seemed happy enough with the outcome. And he spent so much time complaining about how hard the podcast was to research, and how much time it took and how if only the podcast made X dollars he'd hire somebody and yes the Patreon passed that goal but he still hadn't hired anybody. Last Podcast on the Left does the same thing, but with books usually, and they've had no problem just doing a friendly shoutout to the author at the start of the podcast. At least a few of them have written in laughing about how their dry book diving into Tupac and Biggie just sold a hundred books out of nowhere and they just found out why. It really isn't that hard. Dave threw a huge hissy fit like people wanted "George Washington was the first president[1][2]" when it just needed a shoutout. Nobody's coming because they think Dave's a genius historian or god I hope they aren't.
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It's easy enough to miss depending on your age and how popular they were in your school, unless you just happen to have strong memories of school supply shopping.
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