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Branis posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsEoQRwlgg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux5aLojve50 The scottish tv take on American/scottish police exchange.
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Welp I guess this won't help change the cowboy image that Brit cops have about American cops. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/05/austin-cop-sure-shot-stopped-crazed-gunman/ quote:Holding the reins of two horses with one hand, Austin Police Sgt. Adam Johnson raised his service pistol and fired a bullseye into the target some 312 feet away.
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the brass posted:it says a lot about the training and professionalism of our police department,” Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said an officer makes an exceptional shot that far exceeds his training level that the department provides the chief makes a public statement essentially assigning all of the credit for the exceptional shot to the training of the agency no surprises here
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312 feet one handed with a pistol is competition-level shooting. I wouldn't even consider taking that shot.
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Branis posted:yeah I doubt theres any agency that even trains with pistol or rifle at 100 yards. Our Rifle qual includes the 10 100 yard shots and we have 2 shots at 50 yards wity handguns.
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Zeroisanumber posted:312 feet one handed with a pistol is competition-level shooting. I wouldn't even consider taking that shot. Yeah I'm not a gun guy by any means but there's gotta be a relatively large amount of deviation for a pistol at 100+ yards. Like a perfectly zero'd service weapon with issued ammunition, locked into a stable base of some kind, is still bound to deviate how much at that range? Like 2-3 inches? Insane odds when you introduce all the variables. edit: unless...  
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:Nice to know that no matter how hosed the police service in England is, you're mates still have your back. Can you elaborate a bit? I live in Finland and the problem here is more and more cut budgets, we have a whole bunch of unemployed cops and the actually employed ones have to basically pick which calls they are gonna answer to because there are so few cops and even less time. Recently we had a rally here where the commissioner received a bunch of thrash bags full of toy police cars, which was about playing with the lives of the civilians or something. Now every place is full of security guards, because you need somebody to take care of stuff.
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ManOfTheYear posted:Can you elaborate a bit? I live in Finland and the problem here is more and more cut budgets, we have a whole bunch of unemployed cops and the actually employed ones have to basically pick which calls they are gonna answer to because there are so few cops and even less time. Recently we had a rally here where the commissioner received a bunch of thrash bags full of toy police cars, which was about playing with the lives of the civilians or something. Well, repeated budget cuts and lower starting wages have meant that the quality of recruits has dropped and low morale with lack of resources has resulted in a high level of attrition in experienced front line officers. There is a general feeling that you have to do a harder job with fewer and fewer resources (I see a vast amount of unpaid overtime going on) and one hand tied behind your back. In central London the average house price is about half a million pounds, a constable in their first 2 years of service would have to spend 24 years pay to buy a house. I'm an unpaid police officer in the best funded force in the UK so I don't have to deal with the poo poo that the regulars do on a daily basis but I'm sure the other brit cops can fill you in, especially Hezzy. At least Chartley (A Scot officer) works for a force that seems to operate with more common sense and public appreciation.
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:Well, repeated budget cuts and lower starting wages have meant that the quality of recruits has dropped and low morale with lack of resources has resulted in a high level of attrition in experienced front line officers. There is a general feeling that you have to do a harder job with fewer and fewer resources (I see a vast amount of unpaid overtime going on) and one hand tied behind your back. In central London the average house price is about half a million pounds, a constable in their first 2 years of service would have to spend 24 years pay to buy a house. Wow, that doesn't sound like an attractive career choice. What kind of people are recruiting then if they are lower quality than before? People who can't get anywhere else or what? Bernard McFacknutah posted:I'm an unpaid police officer in the best funded force in the UK Unpaid? How does that work? ManOfTheYear fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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ManOfTheYear posted:Wow, that doesn't sound like an attractive career choice. What kind of people are recruiting then if they are lower quality than before? People who can't get anywhere else or what? There are obviously plenty of decent recruits but too many fat, lazy, stupid and dishonest people finish training and don't get rooted out until they are on borough and an Inspector has to sack them after a lengthy 'management action' process. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_constable All the powers and duties of a full time officer, although specialist training is very limited, but none of the pay. I do about 100 hours a month paired up with a full time officer attending emergency calls. 'Specials' used to be looked down by regulars but since they froze regular recruitment and they only took specials in to the full time force something like a quarter of the MET are ex-special constables.
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Starting my first FTO period in a few days. Is Denzel Washington's "Training Day" a good way to prepare myself for the realities of modern urban policing?
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Murphys Stache posted:Starting my first FTO period in a few days. Is Denzel Washington's "Training Day" a good way to prepare myself for the realities of modern urban policing? That and also be ready to murder black people.
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Murphys Stache posted:Starting my first FTO period in a few days. Is Denzel Washington's "Training Day" a good way to prepare myself for the realities of modern urban policing? There's two kinds of FTOs. The ones that are good, and the ones that sleep.
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Dec 6, 2014 20:15
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January '15 Cop Lounge: be ready to murder black people
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:At least Chartley (A Scot officer) works for a force that seems to operate with more common sense and public appreciation. I think it's better but it's certainly not the land of milk and honey. We have better legislation in my opinion at least. Which is nice
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beanieson posted:January '15 Cop Lounge: be ready to murder a lot more Reign Of Pain fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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GunForumMeme posted:There's two kinds of FTOs. There are rear end in a top hat ftos most definitely.
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Zeroisanumber posted:312 feet one handed with a pistol is competition-level shooting. I wouldn't even consider taking that shot. That's not even competition level shooting - remember he's shooting at a live target, those things might do things paper doesn't tend to do. Like move. It's a ridiculous shot, and he probably shouldn't have taken it, but I'm glad it worked out.
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Yeah...no agency provides that level of training to a police officer, I'm guessing. Maybe the guy trains on his own, but I doubt for a shot like that. Just imagine the hellfire that would have ensued if his shot would have hit a bystander instead "COPS SHOOTING WILD! KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN! HANDS UP DONT SHOOOOOOT!!!!"
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nwin posted:Yeah...no agency provides that level of training to a police officer, I'm guessing. Maybe the guy trains on his own, but I doubt for a shot like that. Was he black.......move along citizen.
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:Well, repeated budget cuts and lower starting wages have meant that the quality of recruits has dropped and low morale with lack of resources has resulted in a high level of attrition in experienced front line officers. There is a general feeling that you have to do a harder job with fewer and fewer resources (I see a vast amount of unpaid overtime going on) and one hand tied behind your back. In central London the average house price is about half a million pounds, a constable in their first 2 years of service would have to spend 24 years pay to buy a house. real happy socialism is working out so well for yall
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:real happy socialism is working out so well for yall Sounds great right? 
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Obviously the solution is to be half socialist like canada so you get the best of both worlds
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ManOfTheYear posted:Can you elaborate a bit? I live in Finland and the problem here is more and more cut budgets, we have a whole bunch of unemployed cops and the actually employed ones have to basically pick which calls they are gonna answer to because there are so few cops and even less time. Recently we had a rally here where the commissioner received a bunch of thrash bags full of toy police cars, which was about playing with the lives of the civilians or something. Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:real happy socialism is working out so well for yall forgot to include this one cuz i read it hours ago and had a lil chuckle to myself, good thing i caught it tho!
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Shooting Blanks posted:That's not even competition level shooting - remember he's shooting at a live target, those things might do things paper doesn't tend to do. Like move. Yeah, dude is basically Clint Eastwood in "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly". I'm a decent shot, but hitting anything outside of 30 yards one handed would just be luck on my part.
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Several 911 calls about a guy walking down the middle of a busy road on the double yellow line. Multiple people saying they almost hit him or another vehicle trying to avoid him. Show up and have to order him out of the highway while blocking rush hour traffic so we both don't get killed by a passing truck. All this for what you might ask? So he can make a show of his "Hands up, don't shoot" routine. What the gently caress is wrong with people.
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Untagged posted:Several 911 calls about a guy walking down the middle of a busy road on the double yellow line. Multiple people saying they almost hit him or another vehicle trying to avoid him. Show up and have to order him out of the highway while blocking rush hour traffic so we both don't get killed by a passing truck. We as a society have reached a point where we condemn order and promote lawlessness.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Sounds great right? That's not socialism you loving twits, that's austerity as promoted by lunatic conservatives round the world. You know, the whole "cutting spending and taxes will magically raise revenues because laffer curve" idiocy. quote:The term "Age of austerity" was popularized by British Conservative leader David Cameron in his keynote speech to the Conservative party forum in Cheltenham on 26 April 2009, in which he committed to end years of what he called excessive government spending. Turns out cutting government spending in the middle of a recession is a terrible idea, which was known by just about everyone Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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We need a new new deal and another world war. Russia or those goddamn krauts are gonna have to go
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Branis posted:We need a new new deal and another world war. one for two isn't bad, except instead of firing up production lines and revitalizing detroit we literally shipped pallets of cash to private companies who turned around and hired mercs from Sri Lanka or wherever  edit: uganda edit: I worked with a merry bunch of miscreants who greeted every single victim, caller, perp or lawyer with "JAMBO" and I finally had to sit them down and have them explain wtf was going on Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Those Ugandans seem pretty legit. We just had sour faced Afghans and white dudes in Afghanistan.
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Some drunk teenagers knocked down my mailbox last weekend, so this weekend I'm installing some surveillance cameras and the camera system was cheaper than buying a new mailbox. I don't know if that's an indictment on my choice of mailboxes or surveillance cameras, but something is clearly wrong here.
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My wife used to say we didn't need a camera system at our house. Until she joined the neighborhood housewife Facebook group. I guess their emotional fragility and irrational fear mongering finally paid off for me!
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:We as a society have reached a point where we condemn order and promote lawlessness. He had the audacity to try and make a complaint about a guy who started following him with his flashers on so he wouldn't get hit until the police showed up.
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DrakeriderCa posted:My wife used to say we didn't need a camera system at our house. Until she joined the neighborhood housewife Facebook group. I guess their emotional fragility and irrational fear mongering finally paid off for me! Amazing how many people check your car door handles to see if they are unlocked at night.
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Untagged posted:Amazing how many people check your car door handles to see if they are unlocked at night.  what really
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justice4trayvawn posted:
poo poo yes. like 95% of the vehicle burglaries i work are unlocked access.
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Manic weekend which is all right as I'm now off until January. High light was an inspector shouting on the radio 'Does any one know how to make a paramedic come quicker'. She didn't mean the rude version. We laughed. We also don't like her.
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