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Ugh. Aside from apparently being bad for the lower and midcard fighters I hate anything that robs competitors of their indiviudality in a sport that should focus and capitalize on that.
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CommonShore posted:I wonder if the best career path for a young prospect now is to avoid going to the UFC and instead go to college and get a real job
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CommonShore posted:I wonder if the best career path for a young prospect now is to avoid going to the UFC and instead do what Askren, Alvarez, Melendez, McGregor, and Rousey have done - fight in smaller organizations until the hype train is screaming, journalists at post-fight pressers are asking questions about you, and you're getting in twitter wars with top-ten fighters before having been signed. Only then sign a UFC contract as an established fighter with some of your own drawing power. On a related note, Bellator recently signed an 18-year-old wrestler to a long-term deal even though the guy says he isn't even going to be thinking about MMA until after the 2016 Summer Olympics at the earliest.
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Dec 2, 2014 02:24
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CommonShore posted:Askren . . . drawing power. Come again? Are you referring to Askren's drawing power of putting stink lines on pictures of Dana?
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Dec 2, 2014 03:08
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it always gets me how peopple argue about fighter pay like its a real job and they deserve money
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Thauros posted:Ugh. Aside from apparently being bad for the lower and midcard fighters I hate anything that robs competitors of their indiviudality in a sport that should focus and capitalize on that. I'm so glad we are all experts on things that may or may not exist and we have no details about except a small blurb from mmasucka.com also Bundt Cake posted:it always gets me how peopple argue about fighter pay like its a real job and they deserve money
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Dec 2, 2014 03:33
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Agreed, it's unfortunate to undercut the vibrant personalities of fighters, such as: the one guy with a shaved head who is a warrior and promises to deliver a finish, or that guy with the tattoo of his name on his back who is a warrior and promises to deliver a finish, or the other guy who has the tribal tattoo and wrestled and is a warrior and guarantees that by either submission or knock out he'll get a finish
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Dec 2, 2014 03:39
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Dethrone Royalty @dethrone Heard uniform announcement coming tomorrow. We were never about all looking the same. We'll stay that way, thanks. #goodluckreebok Jimi Devine @JimiDevine 2h2 hours ago @dethrone that include walkout gear? Dethrone Royalty @dethrone 2h2 hours ago @JimiDevine I think that's all it includes Reebok, lol
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CommonShore posted:I wonder if the best career path for a young prospect now is to avoid going to the UFC and instead do what Askren, Alvarez, Melendez, McGregor, and Rousey have done - fight in smaller organizations until the hype train is screaming, journalists at post-fight pressers are asking questions about you, and you're getting in twitter wars with top-ten fighters before having been signed. Only then sign a UFC contract as an established fighter with some of your own drawing power. It hasn't worked out for Askren though, right?
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Dec 2, 2014 03:42
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Bundt Cake posted:it always gets me how peopple argue about fighter pay like its a real job and they deserve money agreed Anyway this is mostly a b-league thought but it occurred to me today that Tito Ortiz will be the first inductee into the Bellator Hall of Fame. And depending how the UFC uniforms look I may purchase an Anderson Silva throwback jersey. Cage of the Rage outfit.
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Dec 2, 2014 03:46
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Bellator Hall of Fame. what in the world
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mewse posted:It hasn't worked out for Askren though, right? Askren is getting paid a lot more than your average UFC fighter to crush cans in One FC iirc. Someone else can find the details, but I heard he was getting paid quite well.
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Dec 2, 2014 04:21
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Seltzer posted:Askren is getting paid a lot more than your average UFC fighter to crush cans in One FC iirc. Someone else can find the details, but I heard he was getting paid quite well. If he's making more than UFC salary then more power to him
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budreck posted:I like watching fights with real people. Most of my friends don't care much for MMA these days so its a lot harder to convince anyone to split the PPV cost. Pretty much this. Friends will only ever chip in for Weidman fights or Ronda fights. And Ronda fights are always filled with commentary like "I'd let her beat my rear end....naked! har har har!"
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Dec 2, 2014 04:25
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mewse posted:If he's making more than UFC salary then more power to him He goes into it here. It sounds like a pretty great deal, actually http://mmajunkie.com/2013/12/ben-askren-on-six-figure-one-fc-fights-bald-headed-fat-man-ufc-future-baroni-more
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I will not rest until I get to see Askren's face when he gets stuffed and realizes how hosed he is.
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Dangersim posted:I will not rest until I get to see Askren's face when he gets stuffed and realizes how hosed he is. I'm actually really interested in seeing exactly where the line is between UFC welterweights good enough to stuff Askren and those who aren't. Ty1990 posted:Friends will only ever chip in for Weidman fights thank you for proving that Chris Weidman is in fact a star.
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Bubba Smith posted:I'm actually really interested in seeing exactly where the line is between UFC welterweights good enough to stuff Askren and those who aren't. hendricks, gsp, and maybe tyron woodley
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:hendricks, gsp, and maybe tyron woodley He could probably get Lawler down but his brain would be scrambled in the process. No doubt he could take down Maia but have fun with that Ben.
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mewse posted:It hasn't worked out for Askren though, right? I see it as still in progress for Askren. He has people interested in him and talking about him. The UFC didn't give him the money he wanted, so he'll just keep racking up wins in Asia and staying undefeated and talking lots of poo poo til they're willing to concede some terms. Of course it's a gamble, though, but the UFC won't complain because it's not costing them anything, and they'll get some free hype out of it if it ever turns the corner.
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Dangersim posted:I will not rest until I get to see Askren's face when he gets stuffed and realizes how hosed he is. askren got his shots stuffed a bunch in yon college and he did pretty ok
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Seltzer posted:Askren is getting paid a lot more than your average UFC fighter to crush cans in One FC iirc. Someone else can find the details, but I heard he was getting paid quite well. Its about how good do you think you are? If you think you are a really good MMA fighter, but not a great fighter, stay in ONE FC and be the big fish in the small pond. You will make more being ONE FC champ for a few years, then being ranked 12 in whatever division in the UFC. If you believe that you are the best in the world, join the UFC and become UFC champion, you will make WAAYY more money.
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david carmichael posted:askren got his shots stuffed a bunch in yon college and he did pretty ok I wasn't aware people could punch you in collegiate wrestling.
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Its about how good do you think you are? actually you will find that gilbert makes more a pile of ufc champions
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david carmichael posted:actually you will find that gilbert makes more a pile of ufc champions He's not ranked 12.
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Askren's options were WSOF for minimum wage or OneFC for a million dollars UFC didn't even make an offer
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Askren is ranked 6 or 7 depending on where you look, hth
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When I look up my opinion hole, I see Ben Askren ranked no where because I've never seen him fight because I only watch fights that actually matter
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you dont watch fights and you hate the ones you do watch genuine question what was the last fight you were hyped for + felt it lived up to said hype (in a positive way not like a lovely fight being poo poo that was supposed to be poo poo)
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Yuriy posted:genuine question what was the last fight you were hyped for + felt it lived up to said hype (in a positive way not like a lovely fight being poo poo that was supposed to be poo poo) Mark Hunt
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Mark Hunt that was at bundt because i'm not trying to be a positive pete here, but he's kind of a debbie downer, a real negative nancy
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A gloomy Gustafsson A pessimistic Pedro
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Detroit_Dogg posted:A pessimistic Pedro I dunno he's looking pretty positive here  PS this is still one of the funniest things from a Brazil card, dude flopped hard and it was more obvious than any soccer dive and then he loving Andy Kaufman'd it
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MMA isnt getting less popular its just reaching a singularity, where the entirety of the sport is just weird idiots posting on Twitter about fight rumors, and then angry dumbass pieces of poo poo posting on forums about how all the fighters suck and the fights are lovely, but the fighters dont actually exist and there arent any fights . Just posting. endless....
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Bundt is right about this though, Ben Askren is irrelevant and I wish he would go away. He also has stupid hair and probably only got good at wrestling because he couldn't get dates since he is ugly.
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^^^Do you want to talk about it? This is a safe place. Show me on the anatomically correct doll where Askren funked you.Yuriy posted:that was at bundt because i'm not trying to be a positive pete here, but he's kind of a debbie downer, a real negative nancy He's still mad about Florian vs Sherk.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:^^^Do you want to talk about it? This is a safe place. Show me on the anatomically correct doll where Askren funked you. Nope. He's still mad about Bonnar vs JBJ.
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Yuriy posted:that was at bundt because i'm not trying to be a positive pete here, but he's kind of a debbie downer, a real negative nancy it's hard not to take a "who cares" attitude about ben askren, who has never fought a top 20 guy, and won't get the chance to anytime soon.
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Sean Salmon, that's the name of a fighter
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Championships and accomplishments[edit] Mixed martial arts[edit] Bellator Fighting Championships Bellator Welterweight Championship (One time) Bellator Season 2 Welterweight Tournament Winner Most successful title defenses in Bellator history (4) Most consecutive title defenses in Bellator history (4) Tied with Michael Chandler for most consecutive Bellator wins (9) Undefeated in Bellator (9-0) ONE Fighting Championship ONE FC Welterweight Championship (One time, Current) Submission grappling[edit] Abu Dhabi Combat Club 2009 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Quarterfinalist International Federation of Associated Wrestling Styles FILA 2009 Grappling World Championships Senior No-Gi Gold Medalist USA Wrestling FILA World Team Trials Senior No-Gi Winner (2009) Disc Golf[edit] Professional Disc Golf Association 2011 United States Amateur Disc Golf Championship 2nd Place 2009 PDGA Amateur World Doubles Championships Advanced 4th Place 2009 St. Louis Open Advanced 2nd Place 2009 Mighty MO Advanced 1st Place 2009 First Class Challenge 3rd place 2006 Alabama Amateur Open Intermediate 3rd Place 2005 Highnoon at Indiantown Intermediate 2nd Place
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