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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Weird how this background lore is hidden behind all these sidequests. A bit strange to say the least.

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Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
I like that the game doesn't push the lore in your face with endless exposition, but I agree that sometimes it's a little too well hidden.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender

The sun can finally set on the Kingdom of Glenys


Previously:




Glenys: The Desert Kingdom Destroyed 1000 Years Ago

There is a LOT of world-building about the lost desert kingdom, destroyed a thousand years before this game. And we haven't even seen half of it yet.

The name has mostly been lost to history, most people just refer to it as the old kingdom. But the name was not entirely forgotten: it was called Glenys.


Chapter XV: Even now, I don’t like to go to the bathroom alone

Yama Adventurer: The desert’s plenty dangerous, but it’s worth bravin’ it for all the treasure hidden out there. Rumor going ‘round the guild is that beneath the Great Sand Sea is the ruins of the greatest of the Old Kingdoms – the Kingdom of Glenys. What I’d give to get even a look at that loot…

A man in Cafe Moondust supplies more information - particularly about the army that protected the old kingdom.



Old Guy: A thousand years ago, there was a prosperous country in the middle of the desert. The guard that protected it was unmatched in skill. That strength threatened the Imperator, and he set his armies against them. When the dust cleared, the desert country was destroyed. However… the spirits of the warriors from the defeated land still lurk within the desert’s sands, awaiting the perfect time for revenge… My great-grandfather first told me that tale when I was just a little boy.


The Duchess of Balterossa's Chief of Staff tells us that the queensguard of the old kingdom was known as the Mantroskylo.

Qsiti: A thousand years ago, there was a great kingdom in the desert. Its military was renowned around the world. And within that force was the queensguard – the Mantroskylo. Their prowess in battle is still sung in legend today. They were heroes who sealed countless wild monsters. A brotherhood who protected their queen like an iron wall. Skilled warriors who could win while outnumbered a thousand to one. However, they were eventually destroyed by their own strength. They turned into monsters, and turned upon the Imperator. The Imperator immediately struck back. After a fierce battle on both sides, the Imperator took the Tao Tie and sealed the Mantroskylo.
Rush: Sounds like an old story. What’s the big deal?
Qsiti: Young traveler, this is no simple nursery-tale. After a thousand years, the Mantroskylo have returned. They assemble against Balterossa to take back the Tao Tie. This cannot be allowed, no matter the cost. Somehow, the force that was strong enough to even plague the Imperator must be defeated.


Chapter XVI: I ain’t afraid of no ghost

The old kingdom's ruins come up again in a quest.



Mystic Gal: Hey, would you go look for me?
Rush: Sure.
Mystic Gal: Cool! So, there’re a bunch of pillars set up in the desert to keep you from getting lost. And they’ve all got IDs on them if you look close. If you look at them in the order: C-4-B-E-A-1 then… *shudder* The pillars are engraved with the language of the Old Kingdoms, so take this – it’ll show you how to read them.






The kid vanishes as we get close, and there’s an investigation point.
Obtained Godstone of Souls!




Science Guy: However, after being killed in his battle against the last monster, he ended up turning into the undead himself! ... It seems the warrior knows formations no longer used in the present age.


Chapter XXXVIII: Funny how things turn out, isn’t it?



Sure.
My homeland was destroyed by a terrible man. I've sworn to get the revenge on him and return my home to its former glory. But I do not have the strength to do it alone...
So what do you want from me?
I've heard that a strong fighter lives in Dillmoor... One skilled not only in combat, but in leadership as well. I want to meet him, and learn his techniques. I am sure that with that knowledge, I could return honor to my homeland!




Here? This place has been abandoned for years. I was here a couple months ago and there wasn’t anyone here.




This happens to me a lot. I’m expecting it by now.
Anyhow, I'm sure he's still here - honestly, there aren't many other places he could go. Most likely one of these beasts is him. Come along, Rush! Keep your eyes open for anything strange, alright?


Mission: Defeat the Mantroskylo!

So this Master Glenys is looking for was a Mantroskylo? But they’ve been gone for 1000 years. How would anyone even know enough about one of them to know where to find this one? Huh.




So the master's famous technique was a battle formation he had created himself. I admit, I expected something different...
It’s not something that can really help if you’re alone, I guess.
Well, maybe someone with your knowledge of tactics can make the best use of this technique. Perhaps you can help me avenge my people, and I can help you accomplish your goals as well.
Yeah, I could use all the help I can get.
Obtained Honor of Oath!
Honor of Oath – Given to those in the queensguard of the ancient desert kingdom.


Chapter XLI: He stayed true to his beliefs to the end.

Reward: Godstone of Wisdom!
Godstone of Wisdom – One of the three godstones of an ancient kingdom. Engraved is a poem honoring the people’s wisdom.


That is…!
Yeah, I know, it’s a rock. We’ve got a couple others like it.
You have all three?!
Hmm?
No, it’s nothing…






Okay it’s finally, at long, long last, time for this much-delayed sidequest. This quest actually opens up immediately at the start of “Disc 2”, even before you got to Fornstrand. It’s one which can easily grant quite a bit of BR, so I kept putting it off, though. Now though, gaining a lot of BR does not matter to me.



This quest requires Glenys to be in your party, so she’s taking the lead of a squad. Irina is taking over for Khrynia.






For this quest, you have to travel to Balterossa. You could do this quest at any time after reaching Disc 2, but I never found the right time to do it until now. This guy is in the upper level of Café Moondust.




Err… if you mean these rock things, then yeah?




Sure, I’m game!
Excellent. Enter the Great Sand Sea, and go east of where the spear leads. Phantoms are mirrors that can reflect the truth. A word of advice: do not take your eyes from them, young Rush Sykes.
Why do you know me?
What was begun long ago must finally be brought to completion. That is all you need to know.

Accepted quest: The Desert’s Legend




Music: Swirling Sands





Some guy in Balterossa asked to take three godstones to the altar of the desert tower. Ugh, that's way out in the Great Sand Sea...

We’re sent to the Great Sand Sea, and we have to wander around. It will help if you remember that those pillars have symbols, and that one of them is a spear.




This is the one.




So east of there is that rock formation…




Can you see it? Look closely.


- Video: Flaumello Tower


You want to head for that spot right in the middle of these rocks to trigger the cutscene.




Is that a mirage?




Music: Echoing Hallways







Nope!




Flaumello Tower - This tower is said to be inhabited by the legendary Queen Flaumello. Some say that the tower does not exist and is merely a mirage shown by the queen.

After so long… I’m back here again.
Huh?


Welcome to Flaumello Tower, the largest dungeon in the game, and the hardest one to navigate. We start out on the lowest floor, the Tier of Doubt.




There are three doors out of here, each color-coded (Green, Orange, Blue) for a different path to the top. But first, there’s a big important thing to look at first.






Hey, this is more of that funny picture writing! I can’t read this!
I can.
What?




This place was once home to a great civilization. Now it is nothing more than distant fading memories and crumbling ruins. All because of one person. Will you listen to our story?

I love a good story.
Thank you.




All praise to Queen Flaumello IV, gracious and all-knowing ruler of the glorious Kingdom of Glenys. Henceforth we leave the truth of an epic saga of love and war as a remembrance for those who live to read it. Engraved into this tower is the tale of 1000 years ago.
There is more to tell. Rush… you will follow, will you not?
Uh… okay?


Finally reached Flaumello Tower! Time to plop down those three rocks on the altar. The tower is so full of history. Exciting stuff!




There are more of those Large Steles scattered throughout the towers.

Wait, Towers? Before we go any further, let’s take a closer look at where we actually are.











Flaumello Tower is actually four towers, each with three levels (except the main tower – the one we’re currently in - doesn’t have a second level).



Here is where we are now.




Here is the rest of the first level (Tier of Doubt). Those towers are not just decorative background objects, they are actually in the same physical place as the rest of the level. When you use the teleporter, the camera even travels across the gap to the other side. Okay, now let’s talk Steles.




The green arcs are connections between the various maps.

The map on the left shows just the locations of the seven Steles, and I want to hit them all in order. Unfortunately, they’re spread out in a very obnoxious way which means that it’s impossible to do without backtracking.

There middle map shows the path which the Green, Orange, and Blue paths wind through on their way to the top.

The right map is the route I’ll be taking. After the fourth Stele, I’ll have to backtrack from the second Stele all the way back to the start where we are now.



- Video: To Chapter 1 Stele


I’m including videos for the trek, but I’ve cut out all non-interesting combat from it (read: basically all of it). This area was available from the start of Disc 2, so my BR is a lot higher than what the average here is. I’ve decided to try and use this dungeon to get Wyngale to learn a few Arcana.






This path also takes us past all the chests containing the maps for the tower. And believe me, you really want to have the maps for this tower.




learned Orphic Ward III!




Chapter I: The Beginning.
The woman-warrior Flaumello passed through the great desert with a single spear as companion. Along the way, she found an oasis. This green blessing within the barren desert sat at the foot of the Remnant Tao Tie. Thus began the Kingdom of Glenys.

Onto the next one.


- Video: To Chapter 2 Stele


learned Restore IV!
learned Refresh!
learned Blue Streak!






I’ll be sprinkling in a few “I am here” maps to show my progress through the route.[/i]






After enough staircases you eventually can climb to a new floor, the Tier of Pride.






Oh a rare monster. :black101:






31850 damage finishes it off.

learned Whiteout!




I rearranged the party so that Wyngale could learn Animalcule. Unfortunately, I forgot the critical step of turning on Blocter’s Hexes. It took me a little while to figure out that I missed that part. Amazingly I missed it even when I specifically opened up his arts menu to check that everyone had their arts enabled, and to remove high-AP cost arts to better trigger them.

learned Stealth III!
learned Double Slash!






Here we are now. The arrow is facing the direction we came from.






The green and blue paths could connect here, if not for the rubble.




So we’ll just have to climb stairs instead.




That has the second map of the tower, covering the middle floor.




It’s hard to slip past Demons in the tower, there’s just too little room in most cases. Better to just fight them and avoid breaking the chain and giving up an Enemy Advantage. Besides, some party members want components from these guys. I hit BR 59 from this fight.

learned Revitalize II!




Up to the top floor now, the Tier of Value.






It was at this point that I kept trying to trigger Animalcule until I realized why it wasn’t working. Luckily I had a save at the start of the floor so I didn’t waste too much time in needless fights.




The blue path continues to the right. The Chapter 2 Stele is that way, but we only want to hit the Stele, then backtrack and go straight ahead from this point.




These guys are annoying so I want to clear them out.




There we go.




All the faffing about trying to get this to trigger resulted in Glenys dying here, so no XP for her. Oh well.

learned Animalcule!




The Stele is right around the corner from the teleporter which takes you back to the main tower and the end of the blue path.


Chapter II: Glory
This tower was built in honor of the great Queen Flaumello IV, celebrating her many achievements. After forging ties with Undelwalt, the kingdom had flourished, becoming the main trade route of the desert. However, this alliance was the cause of the tragedy that was to come.


- Video: To Chapter 3 Stele




There are blue lights flanking the door, but that’s where they stop. On the other side is part of the orange path.




The hallway behind Rush is where I came from. It’s hard to see, but in the middle left is a chest which used to contain the third map of Flaumello Tower. Like I said, this route hits all the maps, and pretty quickly, too. Rush is standing in front of a ladder which does down a little bit.




More demons? More targets.








Does it hurt? Does it?!

There we go, Wyngale has now learned three Arcana in this dungeon. He still needs three more to qualify for Warlock, but he needs Spark V/Permafrost, Grenade Impact, and Revitalize II for the others, and he doesn’t have any of those yet. So I’m restoring the unions back to their normal state and turning off all Wyngale’s arts except Remedies and Spark III.

learned Vivification Tincture!
learned Fatal Eclipse!
learned Restorative Herb V!






The teleporter back to the world map is here at the top floor. The main goal of the quest is up those stairs and a bit farther, but we’re going to head through the other door now (on the left) first.




These Colossi tend to become Vehement if you just walk past them, so I’m fighting them all.

learned Confuse II!




Straight ahead the stairs go down and dead-ends in the East Tower. The path to the right leads down to the entrance… eventually. The stairs down to the Tier of Pride are right there.








The orange path on this tower spirals all the way around and back into this very same room, but on a slightly lower level. But we don’t care about that since the third chapter Stele is right here.




Chapter III: Love
Queen Flaumello IV had pledged her love to the Lord of Undelwalt. The two paramours did nothing to hide their affection for each other, and soon announced their engagement. Celebrations continued throughout the Kingdom of Glenys for days. However, few within the young country could have foretold what the future held for their love.

Now we turn right around and backtrack back to that big staircase with the World Map Teleporter.

- Video: To Chapter 4 & 5 Stele’s




We hit BR 60 here.




The fourth chapter Stele is right there.

Chapter IV: Betrayal
Queen Flaumello was betrayed by the same Lord she so loved. Undelwalt abandoned the queen, instead chasing after the low-born Marion Marshall. From then on, he styled himself the "God Emperor", and began conquering the world with his newfound control over Remnants. The people of Glenys were devastated - and devastation turned quickly into resentment and hostility. Against the queen's objections, her subjects began creating plans to overthrow the God Emperor. Once this became known to the God Emperor, he dispatched a punitive force against the kingdom, aiming to quell the rebellion.




The shortest way to get to the Chapter 5 Stele is to go back to the Chapter 2 Stele and backtrack all the way to the entrance. So through this teleporter we go. That large part of the tower in front which is completely open is where the second floor would be in the main tower, which explains why we can’t go there. There just isn’t anything to go to.




All three paths converge just across the teleporter. We’ll be back once we’ve found all the Steles.




You’re lucky, you get a jump cut here. I don’t.






Right, here we are, back where we started. We’re going to follow the green path now, all the way back up.






Chapter V: War
War broke out. It was clear that the Kingdom of Glenys would be overthrown by the God Emperor - it was simply a matter of time. Yet, the Glenys forces showed themselves to be worthy opponents, even against the most powerful army in the world. The queensguard fought ruthlessly, more than willing to sacrifice their lives. Even the townsfolk fought bitterly against the invading forces. Faced with such spirited opponents, the Undelwalt army's morale began to flag. But the devotion of her loyal subjects was the cause of her kingdom's demise. Marion Marshall, new wife of the God Emperor, suddenly appeared on the battlefield.


- Video: To Chapter 6 Stele


The stairs up weren’t that much farther past the Stele. We’ve seen this spot from the other side on the way up.








This part of the tower, unusually, features a bunch of narrow corridors, which will force more fights than I would otherwise.

class changed to Legendary Ninja!
learned Mighty Dragon’s Flight!

Rush has now maxed out his Ninja class, which means that I can now change what his weapons are without losing any progress. Dual-wielding axes is said to be popular. I’m not sure I’ll bother, though, we’re so close to the end.










Whoops, wrong door!


I hit BR 61.








I don’t know why those lights down there are blue, because that should connect to the orange path. Out of sight below me is a treasure chest. There is no ladder leading down for me. This is obnoxious. If there HAD been a ladder here, then I could have taken this path back to the 5th Chapter Stele, then taken the orange path up to the 6th Chapter Stele, thus covering most of the tower. Instead, large paths have remained unexplored.

This place is HUGE.





learned Caustic Blast III!




Anyway, finally, here we are at the last Stele.

Chapter VI: The End
Marion Marshall concentrated, her prayers drawing an exquisite pattern across the sky. In a mere moment, the Tao Tie stirred from where it had stood since time immemorial and walked away. With the loss of the Tao Tie, the land began to revert to its initial state - dull and brown, scoured by endless clouds of sand... The Kingdom of Glenys fell to Undelwalt not long after that. Without the Tao Tie, it was impossible for the land to return to its former prosperity. The queen disappeared, never to be found. Rumors swirled that she'd been assassinated by her retainers, that she'd fled the country... nothing could be proven or confirmed. And as the Kingdom of Glenys collapsed and died out, so did these rumors as well.


- Video: The Godstones


We’re back in the Main Tower’s final area, and not far from the end of the update.




The best thing about Dual Snowpetal is if Irina is leading the union, Khrynia can still perform it. No other art or unit in the PC version can perform a unique if not in the leader slot.








learned Crossbreak III!
learned Spark IV!
learned Vivification Tincture!








All the teleporters converge in this one room.




But that doesn’t matter, because we’re here.




Sure, why not?




Oh I guess what I’ve been calling the orange path is really the red path.

The candelabrum is covered with dust. Engraved are the words “Offer thy wisdom.” Offer the Godstone of Wisdom?
Okay, sure.




The candelabrum is covered with dust. Engraved are the words “Offer thy soul.” Offer the Godstone of Souls?
This thing, right? Sure.






All three stones were offered. I wonder what's going to happen...

The square in front of the altars lit up.


- Video: Queen Flaumello IV




Mission: Defeat the Mantroskylo!

Music: Struggle Eternal





We’re up against a Mantroskylo and a bunch of throwaway monsters. This will not be a long fight because I am a lot higher BR than is expected for this quest.






All the bugs died.






Yeah, this boss isn’t a threat.




I hit BR 62.

learned Nimble Switchback III!
learned Mighty Rift Cleaver!




My queen…




My flesh has rotted,
My memory faded,
My heart has become hard as stone.
Yet a piece of him remembers me still.
These stones stand as proof of that.
And with that simple knowledge, I remember the feel of him. Warm like morning sun against bare skin… Having felt that once more, I can rest forever…






As my soul disappears, the curtain can finally fall on the Kingdom of Glenys. I no longer know the words to thank someone, yet thanks I extend. To you, who taught me that within him, a part of me still lives…




:stare: :suspense:




Okay, seriously, Glenys, who the hell are you?
Rush, have you heard stories of the Mantroskylo? The royal guards of Queen Flaumello IV?
Yeah, the Imperator guy turned them all into monsters and sealed them away a thousand years ago. Then all of a sudden they started showing up. I guess the seal wore off or something?
Yes, the Mantroskylo were all sealed for one thousand years, every last one of them. But not all of them were turned into monsters.
Huh?
… Wait, no way?!
Yes. I am the last of the Mantrokskylo, and of my people. Thanks to you, I was able to perform my final service to my queen.





You vanquished the queen’s cursed body but saved her soul. Impressive. Here is something for your service.

Reward: Obtained Claws’s Grasp! You’ve unlocked a more powerful version of an existing formation! Obtained Intermediate Customization!




Then, I must take my leave. Take care to remember your true path…

Completed quest: The Desert’s Legend

We beat the Mantroskylo forces and saved Queen Flaumello's soul. Guess this finally is the end of the Kingdom of Glenys.




Wait a second… “His Highness the Imperator SHOULD BE very pleased”? As in, present tense?




Waa…grrr……….




Yes, Wagram, one of the primary antagonists of the game is actually the Imperator from a thousand years ago, and the husband of Marion Marshall – probably making him an ancestor of Marina Sykes. And this information never comes out in the main game, but is hidden behind a sidequest.

If you did Yuniver’s quest about magick, he mentions that the Imperator was associated with that, and if you compare the magick circles in that quest with the ones Wagram used when summoning strange creatures, you can see they’re the same. Yuniver’s quest also had a boss fight versus the Charged Idol, and Wagram summoned the Fiery Idol.

***

Another question which goes frustratingly UN-answered though is exactly who Glenys is. In case you didn’t notice, I made up all of her dialogue in this quest. Glenys must be in the party for this quest. If you fire her at a guild, the Bossy Man disappears from Café Moondust. And yet, she has absolutely no dialogue during it. But after you finish this quest, it unlocks her final “red bubble” conversation.

It is no coincidence that all of Glenys’s quests are associated with Mantroskylo or the ancient Kingdom, no coincidence that she shares her name with the kingdom. She’s introduced as “Old-Fashioned Woman”, and the parts of her backstory which she tells us in her red bubble talks certainly sound similar to the tale of the fall of the Old Kingdom as written in the Steles. And yet, argh...

The game never says who Glenys is. I’ll save some more discussion on this until next update when I show her final conversation, because that confuses matters.



New Arts Summary
learned:
  • Orphic Ward III!
  • Stealth III!
learned:
  • Restore IV!
  • Vivification Tincture!
learned:
  • Refresh!
  • Double Slash!
learned Blue Streak!
learned:
  • Whiteout!
  • Animalcule!
  • Fatal Eclipse!
  • Spark IV!
learned Revitalize II!
learned:
  • Restorative Herb V!
  • Mighty Dragon’s Flight!
  • Vivification Tincture!
learned Confuse II!
class changed to Legendary Ninja!
learned:
  • Crossbreak III!
  • Nimble Switchback III!
learned Mighty Rift Cleaver!



Video: Flaumello Tower
Video: To Chapter 1 Stele
Video: To Chapter 2 Stele
Video: To Chapter 3 Stele
Video: To Chapter 4 & 5 Stele’s
Video: To Chapter 6 Stele
Video: The Godstones
Video: Queen Flaumello IV


That’s all the sidequests we can do for now finished. There are in fact only three left in the game, and two are simple enough to knock off in one update. It’s finally time for our much-delayed audience with the God Emperor.

Next Time: The Conqueror’s secrets We will reveal

Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Apr 13, 2017

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Why isn't this part of the story :catstare:
They could have done quite a bit with it.


But eh, whatcha gonna do bout Saga.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I completely forgot about Wagram tbh. Where the hell is he skulking now anyway?

Victis
Mar 26, 2008

SSNeoman posted:

I completely forgot about Wagram tbh. Where the hell is he skulking now anyway?

I was gonna say I don't remember what Wagram's deal was exactly, was he working with the Conqueror or just doing his own thing?

As far as Glenys I would have guessed that they're the spirit of the people of Glenys or something nebulous like that.

Victis fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 26, 2016

Smiling Knight
May 31, 2011

This was the biggest jaw-dropping moment in the game for me. I had just slotted Wagram into the "chief minion" cliche, and had honestly kinda forgotten about him at this point, so learning that he was the Imperator just made me stop in my tracks.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
It does show a lot of restraint for the game to go "so is Wagram the chief antagonist and his identity as the Imperator important to the plot? No? Then there's no reason to bring that to the forefront of the story." Most games would have rubbed that information in your face until it was blatantly clear what was going on, but I kind of like how TLR just crosses its arms and takes its time. lets it all slowly come together for the player.

Of course I thought Glenys was just a descendant of the Kingdom, raised in secret on the Kindoms ways. Her actually being of the Ancient Kingdom isn't impossible though.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
I didn't include Glenys' final conversation for two reasons, one of which is that it would have killed the pacing of the end of the update, and the other is that I was hitting the 47k character limit on posts.

I've recorded the next several updates so the pace should be speedier for a little bit. We're almost done the main game, but there are a couple bonus bosses to tackle as well.


Onmi posted:

Of course I thought Glenys was just a descendant of the Kingdom, raised in secret on the Kindoms ways. Her actually being of the Ancient Kingdom isn't impossible though.

That option is rather unlikely since the Kingdom of Glenys has been dead for 1000 years. When the Tao Tie was stolen, that was curtains for it. Additionally, the way she talks sounds like she was really there and saw the destruction. If this was taking place 10, 20, 30 years later, then sure a descendant. But after a thousand years, there's negligible chance that any of the survivors descendants would remember the old kingdom, much less care.

Wisdom's Echo posted:

(Old-Fashioned Woman) Sir! I know this may sound forward, but I need help... Would you listen to my story, at least? My homeland was destroyed by a terrible man. I've sworn to get the revenge on him and return my home to its former glory. But I do not have the strength to do it alone... I've heard that a strong fighter lives in Dillmoor... One skilled not only in combat, but in leadership as well. I want to meet him, and learn his techniques. I am sure that with that knowledge, I could return honor to my homeland! Would you be kind enough to lead me there?

Bonus Talk 2 posted:

Standing here, watching passers-by, reminds me of my hometown. The same sun shines through the blue skies, causing shadows behind the buildings. My town was not rich, but there was an abundance of happiness and joy. I wish I could go see it with my own eyes once more...

Bonus Talk 3 posted:

When my town burned to the ground, all I could do was stand there and stare at what had become of it. That image... It is not something I will ever forget as long as I live and breathe. I've traveled across many lands in search of the man who caused such devastation. He will continue to roam the world until I get my revenge. That is when my journey will end.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Onmi posted:

It does show a lot of restraint for the game to go "so is Wagram the chief antagonist and his identity as the Imperator important to the plot? No? Then there's no reason to bring that to the forefront of the story." Most games would have rubbed that information in your face until it was blatantly clear what was going on, but I kind of like how TLR just crosses its arms and takes its time. lets it all slowly come together for the player.
Pretty much, it shows faith in it's writing. That's pretty neat.

Another mistake I've seen too often is having it not be important but be mentioned in passing as if the game expects you to know this thing because you've done all of the sidequests. Even if you haven't :v:

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Wow, that... really feels super-obscure. But I agree with the point that it doesn't really matter much that a dude used to come from this forgotten desert.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

When was the last time we even saw Wagram? It feels like ages.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender

The Conqueror’s secrets We shall reveal -OR- The Empty Throne


Previously:






Standing here, watching passers-by, reminds me of my hometown. The same sun shines through the blue skies, causing shadows behind the buildings. My town was not rich, but there was an abundance of happiness and joy. I wish I could go see it with my own eyes once more...




When my town burned to the ground, all I could do was stand there and stare at what had become of it. That image... It is not something I will ever forget as long as I live and breathe. I've traveled across many lands in search of the man who caused such devastation. He will continue to roam the world until I get my revenge. That is when my journey will end.


Chapter XIX: They call him the Conqueror



I am Roeas, messenger for his lordship, the Conqueror!




We hail from the eastern city of Veyriel. We’ve come for the Remnant entrusted to us by the prophecy of the God Emperor!




His Lordship promises prosperity to us all! The mark of this promise will soon become apparent to the world! The Remnants will awaken. Time will be stagnant no more.




What rot! A prophecy? The God Emperor would never aid them!
Ignore them, let them say what they will.




They have brought their troops to Elysion. Perhaps there is truth to their words.
But did they threaten the God Emperor into siding with them?



Chapter XX: Why did you come here?!










Chapter XXI: Mister… Conqueror, is it?



I am he whose coming was foretold by the God Emperor himself. What need have I of the Congress’s blessing?
*sigh* The days when the God Emperor’s word was law are long gone. He should know that more than anyone.


Chapter LXXIV: I gave her a more appropriate form



I’ll make this quick. I need someone to pay a visit to the God Emperor. I’ve appointed you, David.
The God Emperor?! But, why?
The Conqueror’s powers were bestowed by the God Emperor himself. It is your task to go and ask his Highness everything he knows.
That is a great responsibility. A man of my meagre stature should not even be in the same room as the God Emperor.
Hmmm… so you’re saying the Acting Chairman of the Congress is not allowed an audience with his Highness?







Combat arts suit you 110%.
You’re right… thanks. Now, to work on surpassing her…

Before we head to Undelwalt, there’s a couple more things to do. I didn’t do them in the previous update because it would have undermined the impact of the ending, and because I was nearing the 50k character limit.


Rush, Rush! You gotta help me – this is very important! What should I train in? I can’t commit, so you decide!
Combat arts is the way to go.
You know, wishy-washy schmooping around is my tragic flaw. But since you just made the decision, all I have to do is blame you when it goes wrong! Thanks!
Err…

What do you think I should focus on from now on? I value your opinion.
Combat arts is the way to go.
Alright. I was alone for a long, long time… But now I’ll do my best to work with everyone and succeed.

Heya, Rush! You look bored. Let’s go find some Anthrovore Trunk!
Okay!
Great! Then let’s get going!

Yeah, no. I probably will do one last round of upgrades, but only when I’m going to head for the final confrontation. We’re not at that point yet, but we’re getting pretty close. I’ve unlocked Flaumello Tower, which is one of the harvest points for these things, but there are a couple more dungeons to visit as well.


Hey, greenhorn. You ever heard of Jewel Steel? I bet you would if you came with me to find some.
Okay, sure.
Then come on.

Hey. If you’ve got time to be standing around, why don’t we go get me some Sapphire Crystal?
Alrighty!
Appreciate it. C’mon, let’s go.

What’s good? I’m thinking we should get some Jewel Steel? It’ll be the jump-off.
Alrighty!
Word. Then let’s roll.

Oh, so like, Divine Brynhildr Wing? I totally need some? So, like, let’s go on a harvesting journey!
Like, totally for sure!
Sweet! This is totally not uncool of you.

Ugh, that’s a split from the Glorious Brynhildr-type dragons, which only appear in a couple places. This could be a pain.


Oculus Tooth, yes, this is what I need…
Okay, let’s get one.
Heheheheh…. Then, let’s go.

Rush, if you have some free time, why don’t we engage in a battle or two? I admit, I’m not fond of being inactive for too long.
Sounds like a plan.
Excellent. Then, let’s not waste any time.

Whew, finally. I guess I’ll pop into Baaluk just for a second to see-




Yeah, let’s go.
Awesome-possum! So let’s saddle up!

Argh!


Ah, Rush, do you have a moment? I am looking for Inverted Terrapest Barbs… Would you come with me to find one?
Yeah, let’s go.
You’ve my gratitude.

This is another very rare drop from a very specific type of Terrapest which only appears in a couple places.


You look free, young one. Instead of wasting time here, we should hit the battlefield!
Sounds like a plan.
Then, follow me.

Okay, I forgot what I came here for, Probably Wyngale, but he didn’t seem to have anything to say. Let’s just go back to Nagapur before another set of yahoos starts yammering at me.








What’s up?
I have been yearning for revenge, but no more. My memories with him, my desert town that no longer exists—both have become a special part of me. Whatever happens, I will always have them to keep me strong. If it's no burden, I would like to join you on your journey. Perhaps it will allow me to find a new goal in life.
Yeah, that sounds great!

Parameter Bonus! You have become chummy with Glenys, thus awakening her true powers!

Glenys’s parameter bonus is a fantastic 20 percent increase to AP. That’s huge compared to most other bonuses, making her an AP machine when combined with the AP on damage from her Rubber Soul.

This final bonus conversation with Glenys can only happen after you finish The Desert’s Legend quest, further confirming the link between her and the old kingdom. So who is she? No one is really sure. The game offers only those few morsels.

The final Stele in Flaumello Tower said that the queen vanished and no one knows what happened to her, leading to some speculation that Glenys is Queen Flaumello IV, which is hinted at by the line “My memories with him”, but that is contradicted by “My town was not rich,” which the old Kingdom certainly was. Besides, we found the queen’s body and talked with her soul. If Glenys was supposed to be the queen, she should have been in that cutscene.

Another suggestion is that she is the secret daughter of the Imperator – Wagram – and Queen Flaumello, and that Wagram prolonged her life in the same way that he prolonged his own. There’s no evidence for or against this, though.

The game doesn’t provide any answers, so I went with a compromise option and decided that Glenys might just be one of the Queen’s royal guards, the Mantroskylo. We knew they were all incredible warriors, and they were sealed away for a thousand years.

My answer isn’t any better than the others, it has its own flaws. I guess we’ll never know.





- Video: The God Emperor








I come as Acting Chairman of the Congress: Marquis David Nassau of Athlum. I am honored to be here in your Excellency’s presence. Today is truly a memorable day for the people of Athlum, as there is no greater glory than receiving the opportunity for an audience with your Excellency
Err… except I guess actually getting the audience and not just the opportunity. But I digress.




Enough.




Your Excellency?




Enough empty formalities, Marquis. They are ever so… impersonal.

The God Emperor’s throne puts me in mind of a peacock. I suspect that was the inspiration for the design.






Rush and Irina don’t know what to make of this guy.




Peasant or vassal, We treat all as equals. Such deference is unnecessary.




Would you not agree?
Whatever pleases his Excellency.




(What a wierdo.)
(Ssh!)




Marquis of Athlum, We have heard of your many achievements. To accomplish so much at such a young age is quite impressive. Surely your father looks down on you with pride.




Oh, uh, you are too kind.




*nods at David*
Your Excellency, I come bearing a question.
Concerns about the Conqueror?




‘Tis a tricky topic, though We would like nothing more than to satisfy your desire for enlightenment.




The Conqueror’s actions are destroying the world’s balance. Without question he must be stopped. Please, you must tell us what you know.




Ha ha ha! Destroying the balance of the world, you say? A frightening man indeed!
Your excellency! Are you not the one who bestowed power upon this man?! What were your intentions?!




Ah ha ha ha ha! But a mere child you are, Marquis. You see naught but what’s before your face.









You are Irina Sykes?
Y-yes!
Then you are she who bears the blood of Marshall? Hmmm… the Lady Marion’s beauty lies within.




Marquis, in deference to the blood of Our ancient consort, the Conqueror’s secrets We will reveal. However…






Make certain you have the courage to proceed. Ah HA HA HA HA HA HA!




- Video: Beneath Undelwalt


Be off. The truth you seek lies beyond. …Do I sense fear from you?

Nothing to do but take the Teleporter.








This looks familiar.




Yeah, here goes!
Nothing happened.






Woah, this is…
The Sacred Lands? But with rock where the sky should be.







Music: Arcane Mysteries









This is basically identical to the Sacred Lands we visited way back in Chapter 20, except it’s dark. ♫ It’s symbolic! ♫ We proceed forward looking for the next control panel. No enemies here.




This area is kinda clever. It’s a maze without walls.




But as you step onto panels, walls rise or floors lower to block your path. You need to find the correct path through the wall-less maze.




There’s the next control unit in the distance.








End of the line. Whatever the truth is, it’s within this door. No point in dawdling.


- Video: The Empty Throne






I find this… unsettling.




Someone’s here.




Music: Wheat from Chaff


People were wondering where Wagram was? Well, I don’t know where he was, but here he is now. "Wheat from Chaff" isn’t exactly the song played here, but it’s pretty close and I can’t find the other one.




Wagram!
LORD Wagram!






It has been far too long.
Wagram. What exactly are you scheming?

Since we did The Desert’s Legend and know that Wagram was the first God Emperor, the current God Emperor insisting he be referred to as Lord and showing deference to him makes a lot of sense.




Your eyes hold such suspicion. I am merely doing what the Remnants desire of us.
What are you talking about?
Before man so much as crawled upon the earth, Remnants existed, maintaining balance and harmony. Remnants were treated as divine creations by man, both feared and worshipped. However, all changed with the birth of one who could control them all.




As time passed, men grew more and more audacious, treating Remnants as nothing more than beneficial tools.




*sigh* So foolish are men.




Once again, men must fear Remnants power. They must worship their strength. That is the ONLY role of such unworthy creatures.




Now, with the coming of a Remnant that can express his desires, we must listen, obey, and accept all he has to say. Whatever the cost.




You say there is a Remnant who can express his intentions? His desires?
You mean the Conqueror, right?




Preposterous!
Th-that’s impossible!
That can’t be!
Ohhh!




Is Irina more startled by the revelation, or that Rush actually figured that out BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE? Is there anyone out there who was surprised by this turn of events?




Indeed. This was his home before he awakened.




Heed my words. You WILL leave the Conqueror be. That is, if you value your lives.




Wait! What if the Conqueror’s plannin’ something horrible, like taking over the entire world? You’re saying you just want us to sit back and watch it happen?




*sigh* Weren’t you listening, my boy? I said WHATEVER the cost.






Your Excellency, you can’t feel the same way!

Look at the God Emperor. He’s scared, so much so that he capitulated without a struggle.




The line of God Emperors is due to the Remnants.




Who are we to stand in the way of the Conqueror’s wishes?




Hear this, Marquis of Athlum: Hereafter, no one shall hinder the Conqueror. Any who go against his goals shall be branded a traitor.




Go, and inform the Congress at once.




You will abide by Our command, Marquis.






Video: The God Emperor
Video: Beneath Undelwalt
Video: The Empty Throne


The God Emperor doesn’t truly side with the Conqueror. If he did, he would have given other assistance, troops and such. He just sincerely believes that no one can stand against him. He also cannot admit that he is powerless, or requires aid against the Conqueror. That would be the final blow to the last of the power and authority that the God Emperor wields. He’s just scared. In his mind it’s far better to give the Conqueror carte blanche to do whatever he wants and claim that the Conqueror has his full backing.



When I look at this image, all I see is an empty throne.

You have to wonder how Wagram lost his eye. Perhaps he was a bit too… short-sighted?

I didn’t just say that for the sake of a pun. Wagram was the Imperator. I suspect that what drew him to Marion Marshall was the power she had, the power to control the Remnants. He used the power of Marion’s Blessing to conqueror and rule over the continent. He was a man who craved power. And here he is, the man who was Emperor, having bent his will entirely to serving the Conqueror.


Discussion: Who do you think Glenys is?

Discussion: Was anyone surprised at the revelation that the Conqueror is a Remnant?

Next Time: It’s time I paid you back for everything you’ve done for me

Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Apr 13, 2017

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I'm kinda of surprised that that's all Wagram's about. Really? You're just happy to be The Conqueror's pawn in this? And considering how much you're loving up the world by using magic, are you in any position to judge others?

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Not really surprised at the Conqueror being a Remnant given all of his abilities. Wagram siding with the Conqueror is basically just him trying to fix his mistakes but he's being rather short-sighted, again.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

SIGSEGV posted:

Not really surprised at the Conqueror being a Remnant given all of his abilities. Wagram siding with the Conqueror is basically just him trying to fix his mistakes but he's being rather short-sighted, again.

Wagram held great power over all, and nothing could challenge him. He probably had control over the Gwayn, the Valeria Heart. Big civilization ending weapons.
And then he was absolutely and completely humbled by the Conqueror. He probably did the same trick as he did with Irina. He showed Wagram that he could kill him and his kingdom whenever he pleases, Wagram lashes out, loses an eye and is given an ultimatum, and since Wagram seems to value his survival very greatly, he takes the conqueror on his offer.

Also about the conqueror: Im a bit surprised, I thought he was connected to Marion seeing how he was more, delicate, towards Irina. Like he'd be human but he had lived forever.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So what a free-willed Remnant wants are... the other Remnants? The liberation of Remnants? To be surrounded by madmen?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Glazius posted:

So what a free-willed Remnant wants are... the other Remnants? The liberation of Remnants? To be surrounded by madmen?

Well, it seems to not like the lords very much.

asymmetrical
Jan 29, 2009

the absence or violation of symmetry

Glazius posted:

So what a free-willed Remnant wants are... the other Remnants? The liberation of Remnants? To be surrounded by madmen?
This is what I'm trying to parse. Wagram at the end there seemed to be implying that their goal is to go back to the old status of people worshipping Remnants as gods, instead of only seeing them as tools and minor protectors. So how does the Conqueror stealing Remnants fit into that? Take 'em all back, use them to remind everyone they're merely ants, and then...?

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

asymmetrical posted:

This is what I'm trying to parse. Wagram at the end there seemed to be implying that their goal is to go back to the old status of people worshipping Remnants as gods, instead of only seeing them as tools and minor protectors. So how does the Conqueror stealing Remnants fit into that? Take 'em all back, use them to remind everyone they're merely ants, and then...?

Considering the title of the game, I'm wondering if him taking away everyone's Remnants is not only to put the fear of their power into everyone, but also the fear of their absence. They've essentially become things that people take for granted and without them they lack a fundamental part of their way of life.

Consider the side chat when the Valeria Heart was taken.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I could also be a case of The Conqueror simply thinking that people aren't worthy of Remnants. That's been his main goal, to take Remnants away and to punish those who use them. all he wanted from Athlum was Valeria Heart, all he wanted was the Gwayn. The thing is, everyone ELSE is more interested in Irina due to her being Marion Marshalls heir. While the Conqeror is only interested in her to the extent that she's connected to Rush.

My guess on the timeline is Wagram was seeking a remnants that would allow him to fight back or survive against the conqueror, it's also why he kidnapped Irina who has Marions blessing. Then the Conqeuror showed up, and it was like nothing he or anyone else could face. So he decides the best way to survive is to simply give The Conqueror what he wants. I've mentioned in the past that the Conqueror really feels like a Deity. It's not that everything is beneath him, But he has a goal and it's all he cares about, you can no more stop him than you can stop Nature.

After all, the Imperator, at least in most stories, did things to 'Save' people, like seal the Fallen, though of course from Wyngale and Glenys reactions to him, he's very despisable, so it could be that his reasons were not the same as his results. He sealed the Fallen and made Wyngale guard it because he was AFRAID of the Fallen. He destroyed the kingdom of Glenys because he very much seemed to have been AFRAID of Glenys. He married a woman who had real absolute power over Remnants and basically, for as 'Great' as the Imperator was, seems to attach himself to the strongest beings.

As for Glenys, thinking more on it, I think like Wyngale, she's someone who's survived into the modern day, I like the mystery behind her, as it's very much another strength of TLRs story telling, we don't really need to know the who she really is or the how she's still alive. You could have gotten an entire game out of the Imperator plotline, but for the story of this game it's a side one.

Oh, and as an aside, it's now I would like to remind people that the Conqueror was planned to have his own playable story mode. And that the final room in under the Underwalt is visually the mirror of the Sacred Lands



a Black room with a Red throne and a White room with a Blue... boat?

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Onmi posted:

a Black room with a Red throne and a White room with a Blue... boat?

i think its supposed to be a babies cradle.

Szurumbur
Feb 17, 2011

Onmi posted:

Oh, and as an aside, it's now I would like to remind people that the Conqueror was planned to have his own playable story mode. And that the final room in under the Underwalt is visually the mirror of the Sacred Lands



a Black room with a Red throne and a White room with a Blue... boat?

It looks like a cradle.

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Yeah, we can already assume Rush is a Remnant as well and that he came from there, it makes even more sense since the Conqueror had things to say about Rush "awakening" or something.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

SIGSEGV posted:

Yeah, we can already assume Rush is a Remnant as well and that he came from there, it makes even more sense since the Conqueror had things to say about Rush "awakening" or something.

It's probably how Rush realized the Conqueror was a Remnant, because he first realized he himself is one. I wonder if Irina knows, but her and the Sykes are the only one that do*, because Rush doesn't seem to mind how Remnants are used and you bet your rear end that Wagram and the God Emperor would back him against the Conqueror if they knew.
*the Conqueror too, but since he draws his hold on Wagram from being the only self-aware Remnant around he isn't sharing

Although, the Conqueror is immune to Marion's Blessing, right? He targeted Irina at the start of the game because he didn't want to gamble on it and/or he wasn't sure about it.


One thing I don't understand is, why does a Collapse happen when a Remnant stays unbound for too long? What really is a Collapse? It's probably correlated to why the Conqueror and Rush haven't triggered Collapses, even if they are unbound.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


If Rush is a remnant, it makes sense that he didn't really think about anything except saving Irina at the beginning of the story. They seem to like her, and he wasn't very good at being a real person yet. Maybe the Conqueror's rampage (and possibly Rush's counter-rampage) are their collapses.

mmj
Dec 22, 2006

I've always been a bit confrontational

Omobono posted:

One thing I don't understand is, why does a Collapse happen when a Remnant stays unbound for too long? What really is a Collapse? It's probably correlated to why the Conqueror and Rush haven't triggered Collapses, even if they are unbound.

On this note, what was happening during that time remnants existed before man? Was the world just one giant mess of collapses all over that mankind somehow came from? If the unbound remnants create collapses then a world where collapses aren't everywhere would be a pretty new thing.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Collapses seem to be kind of unique per remnant, but maybe the world before Remnants were bound was just a sea of quaking chaos, and binding remnants is what allowed the world to have rules of nature, physics, etc as we recognize them. Leaving them unbound starts the process of returning the world to a raw, chaotic state, which is bad for living things.

Now if the Conqueror is a remnant, and Rush likely is too, I'm curious why they look like humans if remnants are supposed to have existed before man first "crawled upon the earth." Did the Conqueror create mankind or other sentient beings? Was another remnant responsible? Was it Rush?

Verant
Oct 20, 2012

Go on an adventure ordained by fate?
-->Okay.
-->Eh.
What I'm curious is, if the Conqueror and Rush are Remnants, are they bound to anyone? Given how often Rush shouts his sister's name, I wouldn't be surprised if he's bound to Irina.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

What if that's why he couldn't just leave her in the woods? It wasn't that he realized he was being a jerk, but she had bound him and trying to defy that didn't work?

Zushio
May 8, 2008
I assumed that Irina was the Remanent and that Rush is some kind of science clone or something.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender

It’s time I paid you back for everything you’ve done for me




- Video: The Decision


The Conqueror! He’s on the move!
Headed where?
To Elysion, sir!

Music: Final Decision





What does he want now?
He may very well be trying to seize the Sacred Lands. However, I am at a loss as to what purpose that would fulfill.




What of the other lords?
Sir, the other lords have shown no sign of movement.
Although they object to the current situation, none wish to be branded a traitor.




You’re right. No one dares oppose the God Emperor. …Damnit!




Man, you guys are useless! Dave, I can go straighten things out with the Conqueror if you want.




I’m not originally from Athlum, so you shouldn’t take any heat from what I do, right?




Please, tell me you’re joking.
I’m totally serious. I mean, I know it won’t be easy, but I have my talisman, so if I play my cards right…




This is lunacy! You must be joking.




Dave, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what you’ve done for me. If it weren’t for you, Irina would probably still be kidnapped, and Mom and Dad would probably be in big trouble too.
Well…
It’s time I paid you back for everything you’ve done for me.






Wait!




Sis, this time I can’t take you with me. Be good, okay? I’ll be back, you know I will.




WHAM






I’m an idiot. What am I doing sitting here?




Rush, you’re right. If we leave the Conqueror to do as he pleases, it may not matter whether the God Emperor considers us traitors. We may be faced with a fate much worse.




Wagram may have been able to accept this, but that does not mean we have to sit back and do the same.




Dave…




The consequences can be dealt with later. We must do whatever is necessary to protect our world from the forces which oppose us.




I command you, as Lord David Nassau, Marquis of Athlum: All troops are to head to Elysion immediately. We will fight the Conqueror! If you do not wish to participate, flee Athlum now. Stay only if this holds purpose to you.




You really are a fool, if you think anyone here will abandon you at this crucial time.




Yeah! We fear nothing, and nobody!




If his Excellency is to find out, we can think of a cover story, if need be!




Lord David, let’s go!




Thank you, everyone. For the honor of Athlum!




Yes, my lord!




I’m invited too, right?




…Yeah.

Music: City of Heroes (Athlum Theme)





Of late I have been surprised to see the rate of Lord David's development. At first I thought he'd finally gained the former Marquis's spirit... but no. He's learnt more than that through these harrowing battles. I do not know exactly how, but it's due to you, Rush.
Really? Cool.
Walking this path with you has allowed him to grow in ways we could not teach him. Together, let us face the Conqueror, and defeat him. And afterwards... please, continue to be at David's side.

This might sound kinda sappy, but I'm real glad I've had the chance to fight alongside you and the young master.
Thanks, Blocter.
But seriously, Rush, if you think we're gonna let you face the Conqueror all alone, you're dead wrong. Whether you're marching to the Sacred Lands or to the gates of the underworld itself, it doesn't matter. We're brothers now - together 'til the end! Awright! Time to take a deep breath and knock that Conqueror from here to next Tuesday!

Rush... Since meeting you, we and Lord David have all changed a great deal. From being preoccupied with the affairs of a single small city, we've somehow come to be at the forefront of a battle that affects the future of the entire world. It's a bit of a change in scale, to say the least.
Yeah, I had no idea things would get this messed up when I set out looking for Irina.
It's thanks to you that our horizons have been broadened so, and for that you have my deepest appreciation. ...Anyhow! It's well past time for the final showdown, isn't it? Let's finish off the Conqueror, once and for all!

Ever since Mother died, and I became one of the Generals of Athlum, I've dreamt of getting revenge on the Conqueror. I thought that killing him would avenge her, and that was enough for me. But, after spending all this time with you, I can't help but think that thought was awfully small-minded. Solely thinking of revenge probably isn't going to change the world - not for the better, at least. It probably will only spawn some other act of violence. And I'm tired of this endless fighting.
Yeah!
This cycle needs to end. So, more than revenge, that's why I want to stop the Conqueror. You've helped me open my eyes to the bigger picture, Rush. I appreciate it.




Hey, you two, if things get hairy, just run away, got it?
Rush, I'll do what I can! But don't worry - I'll run if things get too dangerous.




I knew you bore some special power. I thought that if I kept you close, I could control you, and have you use that power to Athlum's advantage. But hearing your words, I realized I've been blind. You've been the one in control all along - showing me the way.
Uh, really?
In the end, it's I who's truly been simple-minded. Thank you, Rush. ...Well. I suppose this really isn't the time for such sentimental drivel. All of Athlum's forces are to take up arms and strike down the Conqueror! To the Holy Plain!
I think I’d like to take a little walk around town first.
That’s not a bad idea. It will take a little time to get everything ready. So just relax.





All I can do now is trust in him, and hope that he can take care of this quickly and safely, so we can put this all behind us and move to a new future.

I can only pray that we'll all get through this safely.

Conqueror Schmonqueror, who's afraid of that cheese-head? Not us! Nobody puts Athlum in a corner! Awright, just in case, I'd better get in fighting-fit condition myself. Pops, I don't care what you give me, but make it something to pump me up!

Apparently the entire town has heard about Athlum’s decision to defy the God Emperor and go to war with the Conqueror. Let’s hope that Pagus has a really, and I mean a REALLY good cover story.




Well... I guess a jerk like that can't be left to do whatever he pleases, he's gotta be smacked down and put away for good! I'll be rooting for you, boys!

Why is it that the only thing people can ever decide on is war? I want to believe in Lord David, I really do, but I can't help but think he's making a foolish decision...

Hmm... It's true that if the Conqueror is left to his own devices, he'll certainly cause trouble, or possibly do something else terrible... But he has the God Emperor's backing. I certainly hope this doesn't come back to haunt us...

The Conqueror, eh? Kick that old bitch's can until he cries!




Be very shrewd in your actions – think things through. The road to victory should open up.

It seems that you’ve finally begun to see the true value of arts, young one. Don’t be careless.






Pleasant Young Man: …That’s the story, anyway.
Bartender: Of course! Lord David is concentrating on the important things of running a country. …Plus, he’s saving himself for me. Sorry, ladies!

This time... this time the Conqueror is going to pay for what he's done! And we can finally find out the truth about the Valeria Heart!

Pub Regular: We'll definitely beat the Conqueror. I believe it so strongly that I'm gonna sit right here and have another pint.




Sky-Gazing Woman: Somehow, the Valeria Heart will look over them, I'm sure of it...

Ignoring the God Emperor's orders and fighting the Conqueror... I can't quite say that I think it's a good thing or not. But... I trust Lord David. He's not gonna steer us wrong! The rest of us shopkeepers, too, of course! Good luck, Athlum!

If Lord David's goin' toe-to-toe with this Conqueror guy, the outcome's already decided! Yeahhh, that guy can bring it all he wants - he's just gonna get beat down! Tear 'im a new one for Lady Emma!

That’s just about it. One more place to visit, of course.




Music: Glittering Gold (Celepalais Theme)





How’s Rhagoh doing?
Rhagoh? Yeah, we're cool. Nothing for you to worry about.
Hmmm?
Just a bit ago we had a fight over lunch. Obviously, I won. So, of course we're fine. Isn't that what they say, friendship is fighting like cats and dogs?
Uh… I don’t think so?
... Yeah, we're fine...we should be just fine, Rhagoh and me.




There are two paths to take.
One path allows you to be the creators of a new world. The other brands you as traitors to the God Emperor as you are slain mercilessly by his followers.
Show me what you have chosen.






Rush... It's...it's beginning to come back to me... The person I was then... Working with the Imperator, fighting for the Imperator. Fighting all the time. Anger...destruction...chaos...death...
Wow, it must have been terr-
It was so much fun... The best days I've ever spent... And then...that man... The Imperator himself tried to snatch it all away! But now...now we see who's truly won... Muh...muh...mwa-hahahahaha!!!
…I’m just gonna… go over there now. Yeah…





Video: The Decision


Okay, we are coming up to the final boss pretty soon. We cannot continue past the final boss, but there are some very hard bonus bosses which will likely force me to grind for a bit to level up my HP and arts.

I can think of two ways to handle the bonus boss situation. I make a save before the final boss, and then…

1) I fight the final boss, and then show the bonus bosses as bonus content after the game’s end. It will be a bit anti-climactic.

2) I go off and show the bonus bosses to the best of my ability, and only after that, will I reload my pre-final boss save and do the boss at my old BR.

POLL: Which would you prefer?


Next Time: I know it's been a while since I've come back.

Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 13, 2017

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Go for 2)

I think Wyngale would have been on the conquerors side if he wasn't stuck where he was.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
Screw anticlimactic. 2

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Both have their merits but I think 2 would be better considering how you've done things so far.

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Go for 2.

Wyngale sounds like an amusing fellow.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

2 seems best.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
go for 2

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
...you know, I really have to wonder exactly what the consequences for standing up to the God-Emperor are going to be. I guess we'll have to throw down with his soldiers on the way to stop the Conqueror?

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Glazius posted:

...you know, I really have to wonder exactly what the consequences for standing up to the God-Emperor are going to be. I guess we'll have to throw down with his soldiers on the way to stop the Conqueror?

the God Emperor is very much a Paper Tiger. It's one of those positions which is important, like the queen, but doesn't actually DO anything, the government handles all of the everything that matters.

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