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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Dias posted:

Smithereens was really well-acted and well-directed but making Fake Zuckenberg into a decent guy killed it for me.

Decent guy? I was still down to guillotine him in the end.

I really liked the Vipers episode. Good concept, liked the way the struggle was portrayed, glad it didn't just turn into closeted gays, sexuality is complicated and dudes have been cybering each other as other people since at least StarCraft and Diablo multiplayer chatrooms. So far best application "If you die in the game you die in real life" type rules. Who the hell wants to do videogame murder if they can videogame gently caress instead?

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Zuckerberg and all the other billionaire boys aren't monsters because they wouldn't care if confronted with a human being's life right in front of them. Bezos wouldn't stand over a warehouse worker cracking a whip himself, he would just create a system where the whips crack themselves much harder than he ever could himself. Not-Spiderman did not and would not actually care enough to change their services to even do something simple like not send notifications while driving, let alone stop the services from being addicting. At the end of the day he still chooses his wealth over the well-being of those he exploits for the wealth.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Seems like they come so infrequently I'm always happy to see em all. I don't think I've ever rewatched it, some of these ep names not ringing bells, spouse been long enough I can go through em all again sometime. There have been some I just thought were boring or tedious, but even some of the most predictive cliche ones were still fun to watch in a Twilight Zone way. If I do rewatch there are a few I'd skip just because they are unpleasant, I mean, most of them are as the point but a few I remember enough to not want to go through the ride again.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I never did Bandersnatch because it seemed like a hassle.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Don't look into what atoms are just made of because it's a pretty quick black hole to a bunch of bullshit only weird imaginary math can express.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

No Luck Needed posted:

well that might be the point of the argument. You cannot upload your soul, so whatever digital recreation of your mental pathways is a separate from your physical soul. Any digital recreation of a person is it's own thing.

but you are correct about sympathy. A person can still be sympathetic to a digital creation and like not fantasy-rape recreation of co-workers

Souls don't exist, but if they did, how can you claim they can't be uploaded? If souls were real why would you assume it couldn't be uploaded or baked into cookies? It's a magic ghost internet cookie for your life, don't see why it couldn't be sent to a server if it can exist in the human body, a big wet bio server.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I never understood the argument, in sci fi settings like Black Mirror, where you'd have a character want to make a digital copy of their consciousness so they could 'live forever'.

You don't get to do that. You die, the copy goes on with their eternal life. How does that benefit you in the here and now?

I guess ideally you'd want to transfer that consciousness and end yourself in the process so that when you boot up in the computer, it's like you went to the transfer machine and then popped into the desktop. For the present you, you shed a corpse and can go do whatever digi immortal things you want now.

If the original you stays alive then it's more like making clones. I'd still make a few clones, I know me and we'd work together well to make stuff that's too much for me to do alone or the other hundred things I want to be making even when I'm making something else already. These copies also wouldn't have to do the three annoying things we hate doing every day, work/eat/sleep.

My copies should probably try to kill me before I get jealous and try to delete them and take all the credit for our art.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Becoming a walking adbot is a special kind of hell. That was a bleak one.

Attack Princess posted:

I liked Bête Noire. A fun Black Mirror episode. They should've opened with that.

On the other hand I'm glad they didn't. First one was straight up bummer, kinda thing that reflects reality so much it's just depressing, so I'm very glad it was followed by a fun one.

The one In worried about is the last one revisiting an old setting. That one already had a happy ending so I'm assuming this one will be a gut punch.

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 10, 2025

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Surprised people are so sympathetic on Eulogy, not that it's a bad episode, just that it's a story of a dude who sucks and still doesn't realize he's the guy who sucks that late in his life, even when confronted directly with it in what should be spelled out for him. Surprise proposals also irk me in the best of circumstances, and his was selfishly motivated on top of that. I really wanted a dark twist for him but it was him getting some undeserved peace/closure without her ever getting any. I get really frustrated at characters who refuse to see their shittiness for trying so hard to find it in others instead. Very human story but made me hate the dude and no catharsis for it. Just seems like he will still pity himself without seeing how

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Yeah they both suck, but there also wasn't a happy ending to that relationship solved by communication, it would be miserable for them to get together after the cheating and counter-cheating. Angry lashout self-centered man wasn't going to change his whole character if she told him at the dinner where he was so absorbed in his own poo poo he couldn't read the room to save his life, and if he did show up and decide to stay, the daughter would've grown up with a dad who on some level resented her. Just hard to not see her better off without him since they showed us so much of him being a poo poo.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Paul Giamatti is great, I do however always picture him very blue when I hear his name at first.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Thronglets looked to me like a TV version of Populous. It wasn't period accurate and I don't fault them for it because it's a TV videogame and those never are.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Orange Devil posted:

You can fight back against this bullshit, as China shows us in real life, or closer to home and on a smaller scale, Luigi. Once you decide and accept you are going to die anyway, why not take some of these bastards with you?

I get Luigi and that message but I'm not sure I get what you mean with China?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I guess alt-capitalism is just not the medicine for capitalism I need, especially not with the parties around now.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

catpiss analdream posted:

3. Common People
This is black mirror. Truly a masterpiece of making me very angry about capitalism. I couldn't watch the scene where the guy does his tongue with a mouse trap, but then a few minutes later I'm chuckling at a guy getting run the gently caress over by a dump truck or something. The brain is bad.

One of those is a sympathetic character forced into humiliating acts by capitalism loving him over, the other is a class traitor taking glee in humiliating the former.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Burnie's and the chicken is smoking a joint.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Tehdas posted:

Eulogy:

I don't think Phillip was supposed to be an arsehole, he was just portrayed as rather bad at seeing what is in front of him.
1) the note on the floor of the hotel
2) Carol's engagement ring she was wearing when he first met her
3) missing out that she was pregnant.
4) that his co-worker was hitting on him.


Nah, he is definitely some kind of rear end in a top hat and a part of why he doesn't see what's in front of him is because he is an rear end in a top hat.

He is very self-centered and quick to focus on faults of others to ignore his own, which he tries to worm his way out of if confronted with. Like at the party where he's flirting with his coworker and acting like it's nothing and when it's pointed out to him he gets angry and defensive, at both his wife and the person facilitating the photo memory dives. He's so mad at her for this guy talking to her that he doesn't notice he's made her uncomfortable, instead choosing to stay away from her and leer and stew all night and explodes at her after the party.

He's more concerned with her going out of reach than he is for her cool opportunity playing Cello, a talent of hers he had previously dismissed out of disinterest. He cheats on her with a person he claims to have denied knowing was interested in him and that he had been encouraging, and laments that he got caught, angry that she found out, not angry at himself for being lovely. He decides after that to spring a proposal on her without discussing it to even know if she wants to get married. He goes into the proposal ignoring her, focused solely on pulling off his ambush proposal and not actually communicating with her, and gets angrier and angrier, gets angry she's not drinking the expensive champagne she didn't ask for and gets drunk, slams the table and makes a scene. Then he goes to his hotel and throws an angry fit and tears up his room, leaving it for someone else to clean up.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Are we supposed to go to all our exes funerals?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Maybe someone back then had the thought but was smart enough to not to post it online, but got high on acid and told someone about it at some point, and so on until Roko posted it online himself, marking himself as the first target.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I'd probably laugh if I watched an old movie and some new random actor is in place of a familiar one and they barely seem to know their lines or motivations from scene to scene, scrambling to keep up. Awkwafina replacing Ford in Indiana Jones.

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Eh, I've seen things where that's the case but in this one there was nothing specifically about her that would be made worse or improved with someone else.

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