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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

15 Million Merits and White Bear are the best of these by far. The first purely for Daniel Kaluuya's big speech and the second for having the most insane final act of anything ever. But even when they don't land as stories, the statements behind them are always really thought provoking and interesting. So hype to see what we get this year but bummed it's only going to be a one off :(

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Republican Vampire posted:

I think Brooker only really kept at it because he got drawn into the utterly poo poo-miserable world of Ten O'Clock Live and most of what he's written for the show has this weird autobiographical through-line.

The end to 15 Million Merits makes it seem like Brooker is the most depressed person in the world :smith:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Merry... Christmas? :smithicide:

My favourite bit was the initial story about the schizo girl because it was such a richly layered setup such that as soon as the twist happened it explained everything that had happened before. The rest of it was great/horrific/depressing as well though and Hamm and Spall were both ace.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

FilthyImp posted:

Oh god I'm a third of the way through 15 Million Merits and its just the sweetest little story and... God I'm not going to like where this goes am I?

Tell us more :unsmigghh:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Can't wait for another round of Facebook, But Evil

Tgent posted:

What time does stuff usually go up on Netflix?

8am UK time.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

buckets of buckets posted:

White Bear is probably the goon favourite but the message fell flat for me. I would never go and spectate at a Justice Park myself but ultimately the main character very much deserves whatever harsh treatment they get. Fifteen Million Merits on the other hand, makes me want to cry each time I've watched it.

It's not as much like you missed the point as actively saw it coming and ran away

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

counterfeitsaint posted:

I don't think I have the intestinal fortitude to binge watch this show.

It's all right. They're all self-contained stories so every 60-90 minutes you can believe that it will all work out ok this time :unsmith:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

McSpanky posted:

what if chat, but too much

"Kevin is delighted to download the new ChatsApp on his EyePhone5. Right until it turns out that people can talk to you whenever they like. When he's trying to sleep. When he's enjoying a relaxing poo. When he's screwing the missus. Now Kevin hears voices all the time. What would he do to turn them off? Also, humanity is poo poo."

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Nosedive is weirdly cathartic and liberating :unsmith:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Playtest

I felt like this was a bit of a ho hum episode which didn't really have much to say. It was like White Bear if it hadn't had the twist.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Shut Up and Dance

Stop this world I want to get off :f5h::gonk:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

San Junipero

That was heartachingly beautiful

Humans are all right :unsmith:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Men Catching Fire is the bleakest interpretation of the future this show's ever done, Jesus.

Humans are terrible :smith:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Escobarbarian posted:

My main issue with San Junipero is that it makes a really strong argument for why she chooses not to live there forever, with all the stuff about her dead husband, but then she just does anyway? With nothing shown to change her mind, she just isn't doing it and then is yay the end?

It's not really any different to widows swearing they'll never love anyone again after their spouse dies and then meeting somebody new. I thought it was a very common story just displayed through sci-fi technology.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Hated in the Nation

What if bees BUT TOO MUCH :derp:

This is just silly

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

All done, these are my thoughts in order of best to worst:

1. San Junipero - An absolutely wonderful story where humans are not dicks and technology makes us better. The slow build up to the 'it's VR' reveal was interlaced well with the story to the point where it was even expected but the setup hooks just made it more interesting. And yay for an LGBT story :toot:
2. Shut Up and Dance - Oh man, the last 5-10 minutes are absolutely killer and completely turn the episode around (very similar to White Bear in that regard). The 'he's into kids' reveal was so well done because the whole way through I was thinking that this dude was freaking out a bit too much for just getting caught jerking off. Sidebar: mad props to casting the character as a teen cause they hit the perfect age where I thought he was freaking out too much but just wrote it off as him being a teenager. And then the trollface at the end makes the whole thing perfect. Internet people are assholes is a message we should all remember.
3. Men Catching Fire - In terms of message this one was the weightiest of all. As I said earlier I think it's the bleakest future Brooker's shown us. It not just because it extrapolates on very real ideas of the military desensitising their soldiers to violence and the horror of taking that to the extreme. No, what really got me was how it widened the scope to a societal level where as a species we're pushing out all these traits that have been decided to be 'undesirable' and how everybody is ok with that. gently caress, it's depressing how that feels like a realistic interpretation of our future.
4. Nosedive - This one felt very much Black Mirror by the numbers but the way it diverted to an uplifting ending was both unexpected and lovely.
5. Hated In The Nation - There's a very good point for this show to make about online bullying and the way the anonymity of the internet has disconnected us from culpability for what we say. However, this episode came nowhere close to making it. Hinging everything on KILLER ROBOT BEES!! was a terrible idea that undermines the message in the script and turns it into a goofy episode of Doctor Who.
6. Playtest - This episode has nothing to say. It's the literal embodiment of the thread's meme "what if video games but too much"

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Zenithe posted:

:stare:I just remembered a certain interaction the main character had at the very beginning :catstare: gently caress this episode.

Oh god gently caress everything

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Idiootti posted:

I thought you photoshopped this but it was actually in the episode, that's amazing.

Oh god Brooker knows, this is what technology has wrought :tinfoil:

The Black Mirror is us :gonk:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Talorat posted:

Just watched Nosedive with the roommate, it was his first exposure to Black Mirror.

He's not doing okay.

Next up is a 15 Million Merits/White Bear double feature :unsmigghh:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Dugong posted:

I have no idea how you guys binge this.

I already hate life

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

WE B Boo-ourgeois posted:

Shut Up and Dance, christ

I think what makes Shut Up and Dance so powerful to me is that it's absolutely current. Episodes like 15 Million Merits and White Bear hit hard but there's still a very clear disconnect between their worlds and the reality of the present. But this story is something that could literally be happening today. It's not a story that warns us of how poo poo the future could be, it's one that shows us how poo poo the world is now.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Fans posted:



I am okay with this.

Humanity's future: doomed

Cats' future: adorable

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Sometimes a pedo is just a pedo

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Escobarbarian posted:

Name one personality trait for the lead in Hated in the Nation. Other than "skeptic about the internet".

Bored

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Goddamit, Charlie

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Josh Lyman posted:

Just watched That Waldo Moment. Other than being a little slow, why did everyone hate it?

Because it was a cartoonish, unrealistic portrayal of societal politics that had no possibility of occurring in the real wor...

Oh :smith:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Alhazred posted:

I think that it's impossible to top White Bear in terms of meanness.

White Bear is meanest to its protagonist, Shut Up and Dance is meanest to the viewer

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

The Star Trek one will probably turn out to be a bunch of nerds cosplaying that turns into 'what if fandom but too much'

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Groovelord Neato posted:

you should at least be able to slap a guy around a little who sleeps with your SO.

:yikes:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

facebook jihad posted:

White Bear blows in my opinion partly because of this. She doesn’t deserve the punishment she gets, but she’s also committed an extremely heinous crime so it’s hard to have sympathy for her.

This is exactly the point. It challenges your views on justice and punishment. It's possible to have separation between emotional sympathy and ethical responsibility.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

VivaLa Eeveelution posted:

Rich af NEET Captain Arch Hall Jr. pays these people to be his buttkissing NPC crew (because he's the player and real people have slightly better responses than bots/cookies) and they get virtually tortured either if they break his fantasy or simply to contribute to it. Their servitude ends when the game does, but this dude's a RL loving loser so the fear-driven carousel of existing to praise the obscenely wealthy blond idiot in charge of everything never stops.

Is what I'm guessing.

A bit too Westworld, don't you think?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

So, is it barbaric to have left the guy's 'cookie'/AI in the kitchen for as long as they did, with the time dilated out to a thousand years per minute?

Yes, not even a question

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

USS Callister was dark in places but overall a pretty feelgood one as Black Mirror goes

I really enjoyed the way it played on rear end in a top hat gamer culture and the disposable way gamers treat digital NPCs

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Arkangel a.k.a. what if parental controls but too much

It was all right, the finish was grimmer than I was expecting but it spent a long time meandering to get there

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Crocodile was dumb and bad and I think my least favourite episode ever

Black Mirror is all about the ways everyday human behaviour reacts with new technology to create horrifying situations. Mia's behaviour in this episode was so loving nuts already that it made the entire premise unbelievable and the episode became a dumb murder train

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Hang the DJ was very cute with just the right level of disturbing

I loved the slow build of how weird and messed up the world was. I was wondering early on how these people were able to spend all their time having relationships instead of doing jobs or anything and the way the wrongness built on that and became explicit was great.

Plus Georgina Campbell is super pretty :swoon:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Metalhead a.k.a. what if Sony Aibo but too much :gonk: was well produced but lacking in substance.

Black Museum worked as a companion piece to White Christmas although it did touch similar ground.

Overall I agree that this season is really lacking for a standout episode. There was nothing that really got under my skin and made me despair for the state of humanity and at the end of the day that's all you really want from this show.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

maskenfreiheit posted:

Given the break room convo, whether ratings came before or after she’s a bad person. :colbert:

Newsflash: a person ignoring someone, bitching about someone or being a lovely person does not give you the right to torture a digital copy of their consciousness. Or the physical copy of their consciousness.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

I'M WATCHING YOU ON NETFLIX

:vince:

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

That was weird and messed up and kinda funny at times but I do think the gimmick prevented it from really reaching the depths of horror that Black Mirror can get to.

I missed the option for selecting Pax as the safe password. Can someone tell me what happens on that one?

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