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They're proper parasites who put a lot of effort into preying on the weak, so we need heroes like that.
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The Moon Monster posted:Please report back on what "chococrunch" is. Probably a knockoff version of this. 
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Is that a marketing/advertising blunder or just a boneheaded product VP not reading where the wind was blowing?
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They almost totally collapsed in the early 80s. I forget what saved it. Arcades would be my guess.
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Last Chance posted:Is that a marketing/advertising blunder or just a boneheaded product VP not reading where the wind was blowing? I'd say it counts as a marketing blunder since he's calling his own products 'a fad'.
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Last Chance posted:Is that a marketing/advertising blunder or just a boneheaded product VP not reading where the wind was blowing? It's a dumb move in hindsight, but I don't think it was totally unwarranted at the time. I mean, there were any number of flash-in-the-pan proto vidyagames back then that never amounted to anything, and the actual game market almost shat itself to death even years after that in the '80s.
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Jul 30, 2020 02:41
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Things said in the past are only proven dumb or smart by what happens in the future
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Only in the US though. Europe and Japan trucked along fine with videogames during the period.
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I was gonna be embarrassed about accidentally posting from an extremely  -centric view, but I assume Milton-Bradley was doing the same thing so I'll chalk it up to research
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The exponential growth of computer power was a big part of that, too- you didn’t have CB radios doubling what they could do every ~1.5 years but video games rode Moore’s law and were able to do more and more complex things rapidly as time went on. Compare Pong to Pac Man, an eight year gap. Then Joust two years later. Then Space Harrier two or three years after that. The “fads” that exec was comparing them to were pretty static technology.
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Jul 30, 2020 03:10
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It’s kind of like VR. Right now it seems stupid and like it won’t take off, but give it like 20 more years and I have no doubt it will be ubiquitous (although maybe in a different form than we expect based on current tech)
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1redflag posted:It’s kind of like VR. Right now it seems stupid and like it won’t take off, but give it like 20 more years and I have no doubt it will be ubiquitous (although maybe in a different form than we expect based on current tech) I got a VR right now and its fun as poo poo. I got a first-gen Vive so it's heavy with chunky cables, but whooo doggie it's a blast. The only thing holding it back is the fact that none of my friends have one (as all of us are poor, I just have the worst impulse control) so I have effectively no multiplayer, and there aren't any real Killer Apps that go beyond "really cool indie game". I sure hope it really does take off! With the pandemic I've put a lot of time on the thing.
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Beat Saber is fun as hell though.
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1redflag posted:It’s kind of like VR. Right now it seems stupid and like it won’t take off, but give it like 20 more years and I have no doubt it will be ubiquitous (although maybe in a different form than we expect based on current tech) VR has also come leaps and bounds in the last five years or so, I went from straight up unable to use it without barfing to really enjoying mine, and stuff like Half Life:Alyx is insane when you compare it to the shooting gallery stuff that made up 99 percent of VR games in 2015.
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Jul 30, 2020 11:21
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6 years later, Milton Bradley would make the Vectrex.
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The Merkinman posted:6 years later, Milton Bradley would make the Vectrex. Man, I wanted that so bad as kid.
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Jul 30, 2020 12:27
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Forget video games, doofus is calling 35mm photography a fad. You know the film/camera format that dominated the industry until digital finally got good enough somewhere around 2006.
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Snackula posted:Forget video games, doofus is calling 35mm photography a fad. You know the film/camera format that dominated the industry until digital finally got good enough somewhere around 2006. Given that he’s also talking about CB radios in there too, I think he’s talking about it in the “poo poo people bought for their kids” sense, not that 35mm as a whole was a fad.
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Proteus Jones posted:Man, I wanted that so bad as kid. It was pretty cool.  It had a built-in Asteroids knockoff that was better than the original.Also MB licensed the Vectrex right before the 83 crash and it helped kill them, and they got bought out by Hasbro. Phanatic has a new favorite as of 13:17 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Jul 30, 2020 12:58
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Snackula posted:Forget video games, doofus is calling 35mm photography a fad. You know the film/camera format that dominated the industry until digital finally got good enough somewhere around 2006. He might have been talking about still cameras for consumers? 110 and 220 cartridge format dominated for the most part in the 80s. It took some serious cash to buy everything needed for SLR photography. Proteus Jones has a new favorite as of 13:55 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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1redflag posted:It’s kind of like VR. Right now it seems stupid and like it won’t take off, but give it like 20 more years and I have no doubt it will be ubiquitous (although maybe in a different form than we expect based on current tech) I don't know, I think this might be it, and as usual porn will probably be the deciding factor, not the current games where the novelty tends to wear off quickly. It already has 'taken off' to some extent, several of my more nerdy coworkers at the last place I worked owned a set. I've been tempted to get one myself, but I can't really justify the price right now. Snackula posted:Forget video games, doofus is calling 35mm photography a fad. You know the film/camera format that dominated the industry until digital finally got good enough somewhere around 2006. "Our products are poo poo. They'll be irrelevant three months from now, if they don't break before that. But please buy them anyway." - Michael Moon, 1976 Phlegmish has a new favorite as of 13:11 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Jul 30, 2020 13:08
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Barudak posted:Only in the US though. Europe and Japan trucked along fine with videogames during the period. ...Obviously with the critical difference between then and now being that Japanese game companies used to massively overlook and dismiss European markets even back then, and there was almost non-existent amount of European game developers which weren't married to US publishers or hardware suppliers. European markets didn't notice anything because they used to get stuff a couple of years behind. So from our perspective it was just that Atari 2600 was replaced by NES and Commodore 64 and that at some point it was difficult to score legal copies of new games. But who gives a poo poo, Commodore 64 had the tape deck and at that time video game piracy wasn't even against the law, if the game didn't require any specific own hardware to run. But it was sort-of cool as a school kid that if you could get something from US like the Nintendo magazine, toy order catalogue or such, you basically could peek a couple years into the future, provided that that particular game or toy was ever released here. ^^^^ Right now I'd say that VR on home consoles is on stage where it no longer disappears completely once the fad is over, similarly like with the motion controllers which were the previous fad. The hardware is still bulky, pricy and using it requires dedicated effort while restricting the user too much from doing anything else. This isn't the cycle where it becomes ubiquitous enough to became economically feasible "standard UI" which can be expected from players, but make the hardware even a bit smaller, and "smart" in a sense that you can easily pop out of the game to do something else while playing and we should start seeing real triple-A Playstation-VR -only titles. And yes, VR porn is already here: this is one indication that VR headsets will not disappear anymore completely. Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 14:32 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Jul 30, 2020 13:51
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The Japanese and European home markets were also dominated by PCs at the time, making them largely immune to a few US console manufacturers going under
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Only Europe has remained true Der Kyhe posted:...Obviously with the critical difference between then and now being that Japanese game companies used to massively overlook and dismiss European markets even back then, and there was almost non-existent amount of European game developers which weren't married to US publishers or hardware suppliers. To be honest I basically never play Japanese games, either (Dragon's Dogma doesn't count for arbitrary reasons that I'll come up with later). But indeed, which is cause, and which is effect?? Der Kyhe posted:This isn't the cycle where it becomes ubiquitous enough to became economically feasible "standard UI" which can be expected from players, but make the hardware even a bit smaller, and "smart" in a sense that you can easily pop out of the game to do something else while playing and we should start seeing real triple-A Playstation-VR -only titles. And yes, VR porn is already here: this is one indication that VR headsets will not disappear anymore completely. I'm actually surprised at the sheer amount of VR porn being made right now, which, uh, I heard from a friend, or no wait, I read it in article but I can't remember the title Phlegmish has a new favorite as of 19:10 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Phlegmish posted:Only Europe has remained true European markets weren't that appealing because in the 80's English wasn't considered to be enough as a translation to cover the entire market. You'd also need at least French, Spanish and maybe Italian in addition of German translation, and Germany had these weird "no realistic violence or blood ever" censorship rules to make things even more complicated and stupid. Against that background and money sink it starts to look very appealing to just skip the "third market area" unless you have a solid hit on your hands which didn't require extensive translation/editing work to be OK'd in the European markets. EDIT: And on the topic of why PC and Commodore 64 were huge at in Nordic countries was that at least here in Finland literally it was not in any way illegal to make copies of software, and "forget" them at other people's places. Only copying hardware and physical documentation was illegal, or making bootleg versions of dedicated hardware to circumvent protection elements. So bootleg NES stuff was off the limits because those cartridges were A)expensive and B) police would probably care if they understood the "viday geim toys" to begin with, but making floppy disk copies of your PC games or making a "backup libraries" of your C64 games was something that wasn't even technically illegal. This only changed in the late-90's with the new copyright law. Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 19:21 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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The Merkinman posted:6 years later, Milton Bradley would make the Vectrex. They ain't got nothing on Videlectrix. "We use computers...to make video games!"
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https://twitter.com/tbcstan/status/1288972498701344771?s=19
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Theres such an annoying trend in ironic podcast adverts that goes "aren't you sick of podcasts? Every famous person seems to have one? Well now theres one more on the pile heres mine!" I swear I have heard that advert for three different ones this week. Just tell us whats actually interesting about yours, its such a turn off. Theres always ironic jokes about "look its me a famous celebrity who's way to famous to be doing this, haha shouldn't i be rich and in movies and tv rather than wasting my time with this?" look at you Conan. Annabel Pee has a new favorite as of 10:01 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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Jul 31, 2020 09:56
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I also am sick of ads within podcasts that start off by talking about how lovely ads are. Shut up, just peddle squarespace or meundies or raid shadow legends or whatever and get back to talking about crimes or old cars.
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Jul 31, 2020 10:29
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Speaking of podcast ads, MANGRATE made a terrible mistake trying to advertise on Norm Macdonald’s show: https://youtu.be/F2XawdY22Ek
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CJacobs posted:I also am sick of ads within podcasts that start off by talking about how lovely ads are. Shut up, just peddle squarespace or meundies or raid shadow legends or whatever and get back to talking about crimes or old cars. I heard an ad on the radio for a podcast (and the iHeartRadio® app!) in which it was just a clip from the podcasters’ show in which the hosts are talking about being sellouts for running advertising in their show.
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Annabel Pee posted:Theres such an annoying trend in ironic podcast adverts that goes "aren't you sick of podcasts? Every famous person seems to have one? Well now theres one more on the pile heres mine!" I swear I have heard that advert for three different ones this week. Just tell us whats actually interesting about yours, its such a turn off. One of the worst podcast ads I've heard was for a D&D show that basically spent a whole minute selling themselves entirely on the basis of being "like The Adventure Zone!", I found it so unbearable I'd fast forward every time, which I never do. (Ironically I actually checked them out later after they got some experience and common sense, and ended up really liking them  )
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On the opposite end of the spectrum, Internet Comment Etiquette's ads are always worth a watch and are usually not only not terrible but actually fun to watch. This one is my favorite (starts at 5:20 if the timestamp doesn't take you there automatically) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZmzN_DHrq8&t=320s
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Blue Moonlight posted:I heard an ad on the radio for a podcast (and the iHeartRadio® app!) in which it was just a clip from the podcasters’ show in which the hosts are talking about being sellouts for running advertising in their show. Was it the one where they deserve to be sellouts because of negative events in their life?
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I always skip ads. i never watch or hear ads ever, you think i'm going to take pity on a poor sellout podcaster and listen to their ads? nope. my sanity is more important
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I don't mind the ads at the beginning of end, but those middle ads are nefarious. I was listening to Levar Burton read me a story while I got a tooth pulled and suddenly he starts trying to sell me things. You don't me dirty
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Jul 31, 2020 21:02
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Double post, but I passed this on my way home. And I'm pretty sure face masks won't sell with that client base. 
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Jul 31, 2020 22:09
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You'd think; I saw a man wearing a Trump 2020 mask last weekend at the food store The desire to let everyone know they're trump supporters overrides their desire to let everyone know they don't trust science.
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We had a driver come into work yesterday with his mask saying F-OFF DEMOCRATS because as it turns out there are a lot of chud truck drivers. One of them told my chud boss that it was illegal for us to give anyone who can't speak English hazmat which promoted a phone call to the DOT because he was real excited to start telling foreigners to gently caress off
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