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Volmarias posted:I meant the restaurant, including the driver, rather than the rent seeking apparatus that suplexed their kitchen with orders
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EoinCannon posted:I can't shake my belief that food delivery for able bodied people is a bad thing for everyone involved On one hand I totally get being blackout drunk or high as giraffe balls and "dude I can press a button and there will be gyoza and crab rangoons here" is basically dark wizardry. Like if this existed when I was 21 I definitely would have used it a few times. And it goes without saying how useful it is for people with disabilities. But it's so alien to me to want to pay obscene prices for food I can just... get. Like if you're sober and able-bodied, etc., nothing is restricting you, it's loving bizarre to me that you would use food delivery or grocery delivery or whatever. Just as a concept I don't mesh at all with "why walk a few blocks/drive 3 or 4 miles when I can have a worse experience for far more money". Read After Burning posted:The issue is the folks (namely my in-laws) who basically become dependent on it. They will order Doordash from a restaurant that's not even a ten minute drive away, then complain when it's over-priced, half-cold, or incorrect. Like this. This is what I can't wrap my head around and why I've never used it. "My car is in the shop. I'll call a cab." This I get. "I'm watching the kids and everything is in chaos right now and I'm too tired to cook. I'll just order pizza." This I get. Combining the two and deliberately paying $45 for a sandwich dumped on my doorstep like I'm shunned from society is way out of my wheelhouse.
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They are perfectly capable of driving to pick it up (they did it for years!), they just...don't want to.
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HerStuddMuffin posted:Speaking of math, who’s footing the bill for that Groupon fiasco? I can’t imagine it’s Groupon themselves, they would have thought it through if it was their money on the line. I don’t suppose the restaurants are able to absorb a $15 loss on every customer even just for a day, especially when the tweet implies that most of these extra orders were basically "give me free food". Doordash's overhead is very low. Most of those orders are $15 off, and most of them or at least a large portion of them will be for $20 or more. This means they get $5/order instead of $20/order, but at scale it doesn't matter because they are mostly a leech atop the restaurant system.
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May 19, 2022 07:53
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it's grubhub's marketing budget, op
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Wow, yeah, ignore me, I can’t even read the name of the service properly. I still don’t understand how the financing on this can possibly work, but that’s clearly the least of my problems. I’ll be quiet.
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The Anime Liker posted:Like if you're sober and able-bodied, etc., nothing is restricting you. I work a late shift. I can either drive to a place in time to watch it close its doors right in my face, or I can order ahead and meet the driver at my door. Granted, that’s about the only time I use it, but theoretically I would not qualify under your system.
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I think I also have some bullshit Michael Pollan idea that pressing a button to have food delivered is "disrespectful" to food or something. Like it's spiritually harmful and food is sacred. I have weird ideas about food and it's preparation
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May 19, 2022 10:07
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EoinCannon posted:I think I also have some bullshit Michael Pollan idea that pressing a button to have food delivered is "disrespectful" to food or something. Like it's spiritually harmful and food is sacred. I have weird ideas about food and it's preparation You have rich people disease.
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Please make a bag lunch to take to work. Please I beg of you don't be that guy who gets grubhub delivered to a hospital because you are on break at work and don't like the food in the cafeteria edit: Man who doesn't work for any of the companies he's delivering for wandering through hospital halls with cooling bag of taco bell: Yeah I'm looking for RN Howser?? CJacobs has a new favorite as of 11:33 on May 19, 2022 |
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The Anime Liker posted:On one hand I totally get being blackout drunk or high as giraffe balls and "dude I can press a button and there will be gyoza and crab rangoons here" is basically dark wizardry. Like if this existed when I was 21 I definitely would have used it a few times.
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 This is on a bag of almonds in my fridge and man I know it's almonds and it actually is smarter eating to irresistibly snack on them vs other things to irresistibly snack on, but I just don't like pairing these two statements side by side. They have to know it's a weird thing to do too otherwise why would they trademark such an uncommon phrase.
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The Anime Liker posted:Just as a concept I don't mesh at all with "why walk a few blocks/drive 3 or 4 miles when I can have a worse experience for far more money"..
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HerStuddMuffin posted:Wow, yeah, ignore me, I can’t even read the name of the service properly. I still don’t understand how the financing on this can possibly work, but that’s clearly the least of my problems. They're burning VC money for market share.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:They're burning VC money for market share. This. The end goal of all gig economy start-ups is to get bought out once they are dominant. Or get bought and assimilated by another tech start-up, if the price is right. The investors will keep pumping cash in as long as they think they can get a good return.
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Fruits of the sea posted:This. The end goal of all gig economy start-ups is to get bought out once they are dominant. Or get bought and assimilated by another tech start-up, if the price is right. The investors will keep pumping cash in as long as they think they can get a good return. GrubHub was founded in 2003. Seamless, who they merged with a while ago, was founded in 1999. Is that still considered a start-up?
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If a restaurant has a GrubHub/whatever sticker on their door then I don't feel too weird about using it, even though it's less than ideal. The ones I really stay away from are when there's no actual partnership, but a delivery service will still offer it anyway. (Basically you submit the order to the service, then the driver will both place the order and pick it up from the restaurant, as if they were any random customer.) A beloved local restaurant almost got screwed by this, it made them seem like their service/food quality was going down the tubes. They couldn't properly fulfill one of my orders, but since the whole thing was going through a middleman, I ended up paying full price for it despite the missing items. There's now a sign on the restaurant specifying that they do NOT have a partnership with any of these services.
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The Merkinman posted:GrubHub was founded in 2003. Seamless, who they merged with a while ago, was founded in 1999. Grubhub actually earned some money in the mid 2010s, but they (and most every other food delivery service) went back into rapid expansion mode when the pandemic hit. Revenues have gone way, way up, but Grubhub is losing more money than ever - it's all propped up by investors who assume they can sell by driving up the company valuation. AreWeDrunkYet has a new favorite as of 15:32 on May 19, 2022 |
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The Anime Liker posted:On one hand I totally get being blackout drunk or high as giraffe balls and "dude I can press a button and there will be gyoza and crab rangoons here" is basically dark wizardry. Like if this existed when I was 21 I definitely would have used it a few times. Suppose your grocery is more than a handful of miles away? Or you don't own a car? Like yeah the corner grocer is a 5 minute drive and I'll get my own dang regular groceries. But if I need/want stuff from the wholesale warehouse that's a good 20-40 minute drive, depending on traffic? Nah, gently caress that. I'll order that poo poo delivered. If that makes me a lazy piece of poo poo so be it.
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PhazonLink posted:too be fair isnt there a wine brand called 17 crimes that also used some semi famous old timey crminals as branding? They used Snoop Dogg  And...Martha Stewart?: 
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She did go to prison for like 5 months for various financial crimes.
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Martha and Snoop go way back
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quote:Does whitening supremacy sound racist for a title for a teeth whitening treatment? (self.answers) Yes. Yes, it does.
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grubhub sent me a coupon today and i work two jobs and am tired all the time so i'll probably order pf chang's or some other poo poo we only ever eat when we get a grubhub coupon then i won't remember it exists again for a few months until they send me another coupon
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Platystemon posted:Yes. Yes, it does. Supremacy shouldn’t be anywhere near orthodontics and dentistry without a thousand klaxons and relentless screams going off
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PhazonLink posted:too be fair isnt there a wine brand called 17 crimes that also used some semi famous old timey crminals as branding? Adroit makes a pretty wide range of stuff. What I've had has been pretty good, though I'm not a beer nerd. A big part of it is that most of their stuff isn't IPAs. Also the heavy metal theming lol. I haven't had anything from them or been there since before the pandemic, so god knows what they've been up to since.
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muscles like this! posted:I did have one occasion where I could definitely blame the delivery driver. Mainly because they picked up my food and then five minutes later marked it as delivered when there was no way they were anywhere near my house. Not sure why they did that when it was clearly going to blow back on them. All the food delivery apps require the driver to be within a certain GPS range of where the order was placed to mark delivered now because of stuff like that.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:They're burning VC money for market share. This is definitely an underappreciated aspect of these "disruptive" app based services. I think most people, at this point, recognize that they're ignoring regulations and gig-ifying labor costs, but on top of that a ton of them aren't even concerned with making money. The business plan is literally 1. Burn through VC money to capture the market 2. ??? 3. Profit
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The Moon Monster posted:This is definitely an underappreciated aspect of these "disruptive" app based services. I think most people, at this point, recognize that they're ignoring regulations and gig-ifying labor costs, but on top of that a ton of them aren't even concerned with making money. The business plan is literally I think a lot of it for the VCs is essentially considered lobbying costs. They want to make people reliant on these services, so they can push through policies like Prop 22 in California. Once they fundamentally undermine labor law, that's where the big money is.
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A bag of almonds in your what now?
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Hirayuki posted:Well, now, hang on a second. I dunno ask my grandma, I don't eat almonds! Maybe she likes her almonds tooth shatteringly hard!
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Aphrodite posted:All the food delivery apps require the driver to be within a certain GPS range of where the order was placed to mark delivered now because of stuff like that. I hope the next escalation in this is drivers using GPS spoofers.(which apparently might be highly illegal and might cause bad things to happen?)
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CJacobs posted:I dunno ask my grandma, I don't eat almonds! Maybe she likes her almonds tooth shatteringly hard!  "AAAUUUGHHHHH My almonds! My almonds are ice cold! You weren't using the fridge to make jello! You were chilling my almonds to give me the old icy nut!How could you give your brother the old icy nut CJacobs?"
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Look at these fools that don’t know that the fridge or even your freezer is the best place to store your nuts stops the oils in them from going rancid if you keep them for a while before eating or cooking with them also pantry moths love nuts so it keeps them safe from those horrors
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I store my nuts in ur mom's mouth
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:I store my nuts in ur mom's mouth Keeps 'em warm and soft.
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:I store my nuts in ur mom's mouth
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one of the other nefarious things delivery middlemen like ubereats / doordash etc. do is inflate all the menu prices on top of their various fees and then pocket the difference. and that's on top of an immense pile of other poo poo they doPhazonLink posted:I hope the next escalation in this is drivers using GPS spoofers.(which apparently might be highly illegal and might cause bad things to happen?) there are ways to spoof your location via gps that are as simple as installing an app. there's nothing illegal about it, but it certainly breaks gig app terms of service and the apps themselves will likely attempt to detect if you're spoofing
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muscles like this! posted:She did go to prison for like 5 months for various financial crimes. Her only crime was talking to the feds.
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