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Blind Sally posted:Well, at least not Isaac. Carver is hallucinating his kid, right? :speculation:
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Kamoc's Dead Space thread just made me notice something. You remember the clone babies from the first game and how they were grown for spare parts? Why the hell does Ellie need a cybernetic eye? Well, besides that it will be the only thing that will remain of her.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:51
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You can't have universal clone babies. That's socialism.
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Apr 18, 2015 23:00
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I'd choose a cybernetic eye over a new fleshy one too, to be fair. I can see why Isaac's torn up about losing Ellie, she was cool in Dead Space 2.
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Apr 18, 2015 23:07
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Fish Noise posted:The Markers restrict it to Carver's hallucinations since little kids just... don't work against Isaac "Sawblade" Clarke. In fact, so powerful is Isaac "Space Abortionist" Clarke against such a tactic that mere proximity to him allows Carver to deal with his own marker madness issues in alarmingly short order. This is probably what really torpedoed Isaac and Ellie's relationship.  : Isaac, I want to have children. : Uhhh... [Buzz saw decapitation flashbacks intensify] ("gently caress you Necromorphs. Eat a dick. I'm Isaac Clarke!")
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Fish Noise posted:The Markers restrict it to Carver's hallucinations since little kids just... don't work against Isaac "Sawblade" Clarke. In fact, so powerful is Isaac "Space Abortionist" Clarke against such a tactic that mere proximity to him allows Carver to deal with his own marker madness issues in alarmingly short order. One clever thing that Dead Space 3 actually does that I'm picking up on is that it repeats one good thing from Dead Space 2: Isaac is paired up with someone whom is going through the same stuff that Isaac has already gone though. Carver's kid hallucinations are rather like Isaac's Nichole hallucinations. I have yet to see if DS3 gets it right though with the characters recognizing it. (I am prepared to be dissapointed.)
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Apr 18, 2015 23:12
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nine-gear crow posted:This is probably what really torpedoed Isaac and Ellie's relationship.
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nine-gear crow posted:
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CJacobs posted:4. With all stages of life depleted from the planet, presumably the moon moves on to devour other worlds somehow. The inhabitants of Tau Volantis managed to circumvent this, because their most intelligent ranks were grounded enough to resist the signal and create the machine that froze both the moon and the planet, using an artifact that is now lost to time. The codex, created by Dr. Serrano, was made to be slotted into the machine to control it. And now Danik has it! So, the rear end in a top hat general dude who shot your character at the beginning of the game was actually a good guy?
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Haerc posted:So, the rear end in a top hat general dude who shot your character at the beginning of the game was actually a good guy? No, that was General Mahad, the dude who ordered the scenario 5 that led to SCAF's mass suicide. Serrano is the guy that contacted Tim and told him to nab the Codex and bring it to the alien machine in the first place. edit: Oh wait I misunderstood what you were asking. No, Mahad didn't wipe the codex to prevent the planet from being unfrozen, he did it to preserve the secrets of the planet in a last ditch effort to keep the first necromorph outbreak contained on Tau Volantis. Although that would have been a good twist in hindsight! CJacobs fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 07:35
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Mahad's actions were reasonable, just not necessarily correct. He's a lot like Tiedmann from DS2 in that respect, just less well done. I mean 'Oh poo poo there's a loving zombie virus and we have no idea how it spreads and we can't stop it militarily with the forces we have here I can't let it reach Earth' is far from the dumbest response.
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Night10194 posted:Mahad's actions were reasonable, just not necessarily correct. He's a lot like Tiedmann from DS2 in that respect, just less well done. It's probably the most reasonable response considering Old EarthGov hosed up twice and knew what the black marker and the Aegis VII marker could do. Of course they broke the cardinal rule in the first place which is 'Don't gently caress with the markers, idiot'.
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CJacobs posted:edit: Oh wait I misunderstood what you were asking. No, Mahad didn't wipe the codex to prevent the planet from being unfrozen, he did it to preserve the secrets of the planet in a last ditch effort to keep the first necromorph outbreak contained on Tau Volantis. Although that would have been a good twist in hindsight! Yeah, that's what I was going for (did he wipe the codex in order to stop the planet from unfreezing and starting up the convergence again). I was pretty unclear. Did they even know back then that the codex would stop the machine and restart convergence (as in, did Serrano know exactly what he was doing)? If so, it does kind of flip the preface around, Mahad is the "good guy" trying to stop the nocromiffs, and Serrano is the "bad guy" trying to release them. Haerc fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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I can see the idea of destroying all evidence of the Marker's existence, but wouldn't it be better to leave detailed warnings so the governments of the future wouldn't be blindsided by these evil rocks and stop poking at them? Maybe even being willing to shut down, say, a crazed cult worshipping the things before they become ludicrously powerful? As it stands, all Mahad accomplished was delaying the undead moon's reawakening by two hundred years and providing a lot of corpses to be resurrected as undead horrors later.
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Geostomp posted:I can see the idea of destroying all evidence of the Marker's existence, but wouldn't it be better to leave detailed warnings so the governments of the future wouldn't be blindsided by these evil rocks and stop poking at them? Maybe even being willing to shut down, say, a crazed cult worshipping the things before they become ludicrously powerful? SCAF was running this operation assuming there was no way to really stop the necromorphs other than contain them. Tau Volantis was the first civilization of its kind to prevent Convergence but SCAF command had no idea about this, only Skip Serrano. Mahad was obedient to the chain of command up to the point that he put a bullet in his head.
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 It is a momentous day for Dead Space fans, as Isaac returns to the Ishimura in mid-reconstruction despite the fact that they literally mentioned it was being scrapped at the very beginning of this game. Many scares are had and the tense atmosphere is ruined by two jokesters! Also, hilarious bugs! I am joined by Nine-Gear Crow and a whole bunch of other people in spirit. edit: By the way, I accidentally set my audio .5 seconds out of sync because I don't know how to computer, so that's why it sounds like I'm cutting Crow off like a dick sometimes. I swear I didn't actually do that while we were recording! Honest!
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Geostomp posted:I can see the idea of destroying all evidence of the Marker's existence, but wouldn't it be better to leave detailed warnings so the governments of the future wouldn't be blindsided by these evil rocks and stop poking at them? Maybe even being willing to shut down, say, a crazed cult worshipping the things before they become ludicrously powerful? You have to keep in mind that Mahad's government was fighting a civil war, and put all their eggs in the Marker basket. Either they would discover infinite energy and save the human race or they would fail AND lose the civil war back at home. Should they have left the new regime a note? "Hey, there's X locations where we were performing super secret military testing, but now those locations will end all life if you go there. That's where the missing armed forces that taxpayers know exist but you haven't fought were, and they're all dead now. Really."
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Not enough personal space eh? Like some kind of ... Personal Space Invader?  ...I'll see myself out.
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At 10 minutes you realised the game was throwing contact beam energy at you. The game loads up rooms within the map as you approach and all the goodies that spawn aren't set in stone. They will change depending on what weapon you had equipped when you entered the room. This lets you cheese the game massively. Contact beam energy is ludicrously expensive so, if you walk around with the beam out all the time you will find more of its ammo than otherwise, even if all you actually use is some other weapon. Then you go to the store, sell it and buy power nodes and turn yourself into a walking god 
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Gorilla Salad posted:At 10 minutes you realised the game was throwing contact beam energy at you. The game loads up rooms within the map as you approach and all the goodies that spawn aren't set in stone. They will change depending on what weapon you had equipped when you entered the room. Huh, I had no idea that's how it worked. I thought it just gave you ammo for whatever you were carrying with you, but I guess that makes sense too!
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 Today JamietheD and I throw a big party for Carver and learn more about his backstory as he and Isaac bumble their way into yet another necromorph hive. Because we mention killing Norton in the video I had to plop this down in the table of contents chronologically AFTER that hubbub has already concluded, but you can go to the mission at any time after you pick up the probe gun assembly schematic.
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I think the Carver co-op missions are great if only because one of the players is subjected to the crazy-Marker-hallucinations and the other isn't, so they just watch their partner lose it with imaginary birthdays.
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That is a really cool idea for horror coop. Can't believe they missed their chance to put party hats on necromorphs though.
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I'm the necromorph that gets dunked flamingo-style at 25:28.
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DS2 chat: You notice how the gribbly box is the one on top of the crates? That's so they can guarantee you picked it up with kinesis, whereas the usual method is to stomp them. Stomping an occupied box kills all the gribblies in it, but kinesis doesn't. Also, the Medical deck! Pretty, very different visuals, and once again Visceral speaking directly to returning players. "You guys 'enjoyed' the Medical deck, didn't you? Yeah, let's go back there." Also also, Ellie's eye hasn't been stabbed out. You're a disgrace, CJacobs, a stream is no excuse to forget an extremely minute detail like that. DS3 co-op: I do enjoy the co-op missions. These parts are so cool for one person, and pretty cool for the other. I do wish Isaac was occasionally going crazy himself, because as it is you're just listening to your buddy go crazy over the mic, which is wonderful but not as wonderful as experiencing Carver's hallucinations and knowing that the other person isn't seeing them. (I think my favourite part this time is the 'gift boxes' of human remains, but that ending is wonderful and I had forgotten about it myself.)
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Apr 22, 2015 21:06
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So you guys daydreamed a bunch of poo poo into your pockets?
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The toy soldiers have mini-RIGs on their back, I just noticed that.
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Ted_Haggard posted:So you guys daydreamed a bunch of poo poo into your pockets? Yeah you keep all the poo poo you get from the mission which... doesn't really make any sense, but I'm not complaining!
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CJacobs posted:Yeah you keep all the poo poo you get from the mission which... doesn't really make any sense, but I'm not complaining! The entire thing happened, Isaac's just loving with Carver because he knows the poor git can't disprove anything he says now.
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SgtSteel91 posted:I think the Carver co-op missions are great if only because one of the players is subjected to the crazy-Marker-hallucinations and the other isn't, so they just watch their partner lose it with imaginary birthdays. I think they do that a few times outside of the co-op missions too (if you're playing in co-op, of course). There is at least one point in the game when the guy playing as Isaac freaks out and thinks he's being attacked by Necromorphs but the person playing as Carver doesn't see them. It somewhat looses it's impact though because Isaac can actually be killed by the imaginary Necro's and get a game over. I think anyway, this is just some vague memory of a playthrough I watched on YouTube a few years ago.
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Veotax posted:I think they do that a few times outside of the co-op missions too (if you're playing in co-op, of course). There is at least one point in the game when the guy playing as Isaac freaks out and thinks he's being attacked by Necromorphs but the person playing as Carver doesn't see them. That happens in the next co-op mission!  For people that like these kinds of gameplay twists though, you're gonna love the DLC.
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Whoops, sorry about that. Like I said, something half-remembered from a few years ago. Want me to edit it out?
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Nah you can keep it because I'm fairly certain I've already mentioned it in the main LP. Since the co-op missions don't line up with the main LP anymore some timeline shenanigans are pretty much inevitable.
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Slightly behind on watching these.
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Kloro posted:Slightly behind on watching these. I'm quite ill and so laughing as hard as I did at that when it popped up in the video hurt quite a bit. Thanks, you fuckers.
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CJacobs posted:
well that poo poo was great. Thank you
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Kloro posted:Slightly behind on watching these. There was a thread contest, right? This is your reward. nine-gear crow will buy you this as an avatar.
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Kloro posted:Slightly behind on watching these. God dammit I wish I had 10 bucks to spare right now  (Although that avatar on someone else would be equally as good)
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JamietheD posted:It uses quantum tunneling or something I don't loving know Consider: Is there really any difference between Isaac "They're just running into my sawblade" Clarke and John "Oh man I can fire sawblades" Carver? Willow has Val Kilmer jumping up and down in a cage screaming "PECK! PECK!" Watch it, CJacobs.
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