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Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Hal, if you think we're making a mistake with Epsilon what would you suggest?

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Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Time for people to weigh in on this and get their opinions out early, because it's no good just coming in at the deadline and scrambling to a vote.

F_v, Ernie, Capps, Antivehicular, Proctor and Chic have their votes floating around doing nothing on cases they don't seem to be pushing, or they haven't expressed much opinions at all. Town are giving scum an easy cover.

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale


Alright, about an hour to deadline, who's around?

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010



Votecount for Day 1

Epsilon Plus (4): Your Personal Muse, EXAKT Science, Amoeba102, Rascyc
Chic Trombone (2): Somberbrero, Epsilon Plus
Ernie. (1): fiery_valkyrie
Somberbrero (1): Ernie., Hal Incandenza, mr.capps, Rascyc, Proctor Cat, EXAKT Science, Ernie., mr.capps, Proctor Cat, Rascyc, Rascyc, EXAKT Science, Rascyc
Amoeba102 (1): Ernie.
Rascyc (1): Antivehicular
Proctor Cat (1): Somberbrero, Ernie., Your Personal Muse, mr.capps, Antivehicular, Ernie., Antivehicular, Somberbrero, Your Personal Muse
EXAKT Science (0): Amoeba102, Amoeba102
fiery_valkyrie (0): Rascyc, Rascyc

Not Voting (2): Chic Trombone, Proctor Cat

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to lynch. The current deadline is December 16th, 2014 at 7:30 p.m. CST -- that's in about 1 hour, 14 minutes.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011

I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving
And something has got to give


Ultra Carp

I'm here, but I'm still largely out to sea. I suppose I can swap to Epsilon if we really just want to lynch someone today, but I still am having a hard time sorting through this and coming to any conclusions -- still not feeling great about Rascyc, given that he(?)'s jumping onto likely-looking wagons more or less just to be on them.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Just read Epsilon again and say you think about him.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.


Amoeba102 posted:

Hal, if you think we're making a mistake with Epsilon what would you suggest?

Meh, I could be wrong about Epsilon, but he's sticking to his guns and just does not feel all that scummy.

My list right now is Somber, f_v (hasn't posted much, but what she has feels DISINGENUOUS) with Ernie as a third choice (partial gut call but his early posting felt a little too put on and then where did he go?)

None of them seem like viable options right now though. I'd also vote capps for the love of the game.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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If you love the game you don't kill capps

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Epsilon Plus posted:

Hey Somber if you don't die can we have our Traditional Townie Slapfight. I would be sad if we did not.

This guy is town duh

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.


Oh hi.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Chic only got weird with the recent posts, dunno about scum or not but its weird.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011

I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving
And something has got to give


Ultra Carp

Just reread Epsilon's posts, and yeah, they're not quality.. I think YPM went way too aggro about the "townie slapfight" (and YPM has been doing some pretty aggro shitposting in general, for what that's worth), and I think Epsilon has a point about Chic mostly white-noising, but the "numbers game" argument seems really silly and kind of obfuscatory? Of course you should vote for whoever you think is most likely to be scum, but on Day 1 when you're just talking about reads and not voting records or whatever, there's really nothing "numbers game" about it.

Screw it. Epsilon's posting is as plausible for a scum trying to play "active scumhunter" as it is for a legit townie, and better to start the actual game rolling than to have a NL Day 1 that sends us back into this writhing snake-pile of badposting for another day.

Unvote
##Vote: Epsilon Plus

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



I thought Ernie felt towny at the start, but his absence is noticeable. I did want to ask him what he thought of his case on me in light of my answers, but I just didn't really see the point because his case felt genuine at the time.
F_v too felt genuine with their few posts.
Either of these two only have their absence as red flags for me - but that's not very indicative with the general lack of participation in the game.

I feel like lynching Capps is a no information lynch, and he might come back and provide some content to actually allow for an alignment call.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

Isn't this hypocritical when he's specifically mentioned wanting to talk more with you and you are both one of the guys starting the turbo and one of his detractors? I think you're making him look worse than he actually is by misrepresenting what he is actually doing.


This reads as newbie town to me.

##vote Ernie

fiery_valkyrie posted:

I agree with Ras here. I think it is Somber who is being disingenuous in his reaction to Rascyc's point on the number of posts. When you're saying someone is standing out from the rest, then post volume definitely matters. Especially if you're making a call like that when they have so few posts.

Something is throwing me off about these posts. They feel "put together"

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Antivehicular posted:

Just reread Epsilon's posts, and yeah, they're not quality.. I think YPM went way too aggro about the "townie slapfight" (and YPM has been doing some pretty aggro shitposting in general, for what that's worth), and I think Epsilon has a point about Chic mostly white-noising, but the "numbers game" argument seems really silly and kind of obfuscatory? Of course you should vote for whoever you think is most likely to be scum, but on Day 1 when you're just talking about reads and not voting records or whatever, there's really nothing "numbers game" about it.

Screw it. Epsilon's posting is as plausible for a scum trying to play "active scumhunter" as it is for a legit townie, and better to start the actual game rolling than to have a NL Day 1 that sends us back into this writhing snake-pile of badposting for another day.

Unvote
##Vote: Epsilon Plus


Oh

This guy is scum

##vote Antivehicular

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

The Pit Awaits


mr.capps posted:

Oh

This guy is scum

##vote Antivehicular

Yeah but we're doing the newbie thing. The thing is that this game is mostly newbies.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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That post has a lot of "acting"

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



mr.capps posted:

Oh

This guy is scum

##vote Antivehicular

And new.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Somberbrero posted:

Yeah but we're doing the newbie thing. The thing is that this game is mostly newbies.


but but but, he is scum!

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



mr.capps posted:

Something is throwing me off about these posts. They feel "put together"

The first oen reads as seeing something hypocritical, which seems fine to me on F_v's part. The second just makes no sense and doesn't read as anything to me.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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mr.capps posted:

but but but, he is scum!

this is a good example of "acting" by the way and what Antivehicular's post has a lot of

the problem is he is trying to come across as "conversational" and "natural" while presenting a case

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



mr.capps posted:

but but but, he is scum!

Give them a day then.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Somberbrero posted:

Yeah but we're doing the newbie thing. The thing is that this game is mostly newbies.

It's really only Proctor and Antivehicular.

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale


mr.capps posted:

this is a good example of "acting" by the way and what Antivehicular's post has a lot of

the problem is he is trying to come across as "conversational" and "natural" while presenting a case

some of y'all are really bad at pronouns. Is it really that difficult to click the "Profile" link at the bottom of somebody's post?

also where is Proctor, I want to hear what she has to say.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.


mr.capps posted:

this is a good example of "acting" by the way and what Antivehicular's post has a lot of

the problem is he is trying to come across as "conversational" and "natural" while presenting a case

I don't disagree, but you know... new guy and all... didn't we all sound that way when starting out?

Glad you are here now though, keep it coming!

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.


EXAKT Science posted:

some of y'all are really bad at pronouns. Is it really that difficult to click the "Profile" link at the bottom of somebody's post?

Yes, listen to what this porpoise has to say!

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011

I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving
And something has got to give


Ultra Carp

Sorry, man? If I didn't try hard to put together a case right now, my posts in this thread would look like I was posting in TCC. I have had a lovely head cold that's wrecking my ability to brain.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Hal Incandenza posted:

I don't disagree, but you know... new guy and all... didn't we all sound that way when starting out?

Glad you are here now though, keep it coming!

Not really. You can make the argument typically there is a similar tone, but that post has a "narrative" as well.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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If we are not going to kill the newbie scum can we at least not kill the person who the newbie scum is voting as well

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale


Hal Incandenza posted:

Yes, listen to what this porpoise has to say!

I forgot that I never changed that

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011

I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving
And something has got to give


Ultra Carp

Also super-fond of this progression:

"hey, Anti, you haven't been very active in this thread, give us some reads / gently caress yo' lovely floating vote"

"Okay. *tries to figure out why the lynch leader is leading, makes a kind of efforty post*"

"oh man, Anti's a fuckin' tryhard, LYYYYNCH"

Epsilon Plus
Dec 30, 2006

ALL HAIL THE GREAT CRAB LORD


hey Antivehicular

if there are two scum and eleven town, that means my vote has roughly a one-in-five chance of hitting scum, slightly better as I feel there are some people who are most likely town

"numbers game".

capps: if Anti is scum who would her scumbro be

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Antivehicular posted:

Also super-fond of this progression:

"hey, Anti, you haven't been very active in this thread, give us some reads / gently caress yo' lovely floating vote"

"Okay. *tries to figure out why the lynch leader is leading, makes a kind of efforty post*"

"oh man, Anti's a fuckin' tryhard, LYYYYNCH"

Yup, I think I am right on this.

Also didn't call you a tryhard.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Antivehicular posted:

Also super-fond of this progression:

"hey, Anti, you haven't been very active in this thread, give us some reads / gently caress yo' lovely floating vote"

"Okay. *tries to figure out why the lynch leader is leading, makes a kind of efforty post*"

"oh man, Anti's a fuckin' tryhard, LYYYYNCH"

I'll give you points for actually playing - all the other schlubs are on my list.

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale


Epsilon Plus posted:

hey Antivehicular

if there are two scum and eleven town, that means my vote has roughly a one-in-five chance of hitting scum, slightly better as I feel there are some people who are most likely town

"numbers game".

capps: if Anti is scum who would her scumbro be

There is actually no chance of there being two scum unless there's also an SK. Why would you possibly think there are two scum and eleven town?

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale


wait never mind there is one possible set of scum that has 2 scum/11 town. Still want to know why you think this is the case?

Chic Trombone
Jul 25, 2010



Hi I'm back from dinner gonna catch up real quick

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Epsilon Plus posted:

capps: if Anti is scum who would her scumbro be

the other scum, duh

Epsilon Plus
Dec 30, 2006

ALL HAIL THE GREAT CRAB LORD


EXAKT Science posted:

There is actually no chance of there being two scum unless there's also an SK. Why would you possibly think there are two scum and eleven town?

hahah I confused C9++ with some other bullshit, my bad. Still, there's gonna be at least two scum.

mr.capps posted:

the other scum, duh

I laughed.

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Epsilon Plus
Dec 30, 2006

ALL HAIL THE GREAT CRAB LORD


Also you've got twenty four minutes to swerve to Chic Trombone or Antivehicular (or... anyone else... I guess), lynch me or no-lynch.

I'm VT so there's no real loss to lynching me other than being down a town but it's not a good idea to no-lynch IMO so kill me if you don't have a better idea.

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