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GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

it's almost as if every time kids who think they're geniuses throw out all the rules and start from scratch, they end up reinventing all the same rules that already existed because those rules were created for a drat good reason

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BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970


saw his pants and closed the video

pram
Jun 10, 2001
i love my dead gay hacker collective

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

why cointelpro2.0 kills community"]
I agree that no Consensus was reached at the Tuesday meeting you reference. However,consensus history[2] and policy repository[3] differ.

PLEASE, read the diff[1] of the meeting notes.

[1] https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Meeting_Notes_2014_03_11&diff=40675&oldid=40673
[2] https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus_history
[3] https://github.com/noisebridge/bureaucracy/blob/master/people/banned.md

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
please peruse the diff of this hackerspace's meeting notes

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
in which 20-something technodweeb anarchists with no sense of history re-learn the lessons of the 60s and 70s; why 100% of those hippie communes failed

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
an 'anarchist' collective has a rule list so complex they need a version control system

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
an 'open' hackerspace that complains that they are in the Mission and there are not enough Hispanic visitors, then requires that you have a current member vouch for you to be a guest

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
a group of people who watched their theories be put into action nation wide during the occupy protests, and learned absolutely nothing from the experience

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

infernal machines posted:

in which 20-something technodweeb anarchists with no sense of history re-learn the lessons of the 60s and 70s; why 100% of those hippie communes failed

would read this treatise

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

As a Millennial I posted:

it's almost as if every time kids who think they're geniuses throw out all the rules and start from scratch, they end up reinventing all the same rules that already existed because those rules were created for a drat good reason

i tried explaining this to a programmer/startup darling in the toronto thread re: uberX and why the laws are the way they are.

it's hopeless.

Sagebrush posted:

would read this treatise

if i weren't so lazy and disinterested, i would write it

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

proper archaic title formatting requires that you capitalize every word and put an "or, " after the semicolon btw

pram
Jun 10, 2001
epic semicolon failery

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Sagebrush posted:

proper archaic title formatting requires that you capitalize every word and put an "or, " after the semicolon btw

i actually had that originally! i took it out because i couldn't remember why it was there

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
ah noisebridge

the place for arduinos and homeless people

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

OSI bean dip posted:

ah noisebridge

the place for arduinos and homeless people

hoboduinos

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

OSI bean dip posted:

ah noisebridge

the place for arduinos and homeless people

do arduino's require bootstrapping? maybe they could learn something

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

infernal machines posted:

i tried explaining this to a programmer/startup darling in the toronto thread re: uberX and why the laws are the way they are.

it's hopeless.

the best part is that he was alive to see the fall of the soviet union

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

infernal machines posted:

do arduino's require bootstrapping? maybe they could learn something

indeed they do!

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

qirex posted:

I enjoy the irony of the fact that most "anarchist" collectives end up having more meetings and administrative discussion than any government would over that few people beings
all that is is the difference between participatory democracy and representative democracy tho

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

VLADIMIR GLUTEN posted:

the best part is that he was alive to see the fall of the soviet union

yeah, although he was like one at the time the wall fell, somehow i get the feeling he doesn't have a lot of personal experience there

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

jony ive aces posted:

when i first heard of hackerspaces i assumed they were like this







then i found out about noisebridge and was profoundly disappointed
wait according to wikipedia, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit, that's pretty much what c-base in berlin is



Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

the european hackerspaces generally seem a lot cooler and everyone works together way better. eg there's that one in denmark or norway that built a submarine

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

infernal machines posted:

yeah, although he was like one at the time the wall fell, somehow i get the feeling he doesn't have a lot of personal experience there

yeah i think so, still good irony

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Sagebrush posted:

the european hackerspaces generally seem a lot cooler and everyone works together way better. eg there's that one in denmark or norway that built a submarine

wasn't there a GBS thread from one of the guys who was building it? why does all that poo poo work in europe and not america. i want to go to the club from hackers.

oh no blimp issue
Feb 23, 2011

Luigi Thirty posted:

wasn't there a GBS thread from one of the guys who was building it? why does all that poo poo work in europe and not america. i want to go to the club from hackers.

we work together for the greater good, eh comrade?
da

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Luigi Thirty posted:

why does all that poo poo work in europe and not america.

Alexis de Tocqueville and Ayn Rand

not kidding

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

Luigi Thirty posted:

why does all that poo poo work in europe and not america.
:bahgawd: :freep: :btroll: :banjo: :clint: :shrek:

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

gonna mine the mailing list for more fun this weekend, including some still-undetected-by-noisebridge trolling for which, I gather, a YOSPOSter was responsible.

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

jony ive aces posted:

wait according to wikipedia, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit, that's pretty much what c-base in berlin is





why is europe so much better at this poo poo. ugh

i gotta learn my german again

Zaxxon
Feb 14, 2004

Wir Tanzen Mekanik

bobbilljim posted:

y do nerds have to ruin everything

because nerds are the worst.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Zaxxon posted:

because nerds are the worst.

literally kill all nerds

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

i want to noise bridge twice

it was dumb and i felt like i was in a homeless shelter




:) thats my story

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

quote:

Jonathan was asked not to come back, due to allegations of organizing illegal activities from within Noisebridge and theft. A few days later, he had a proxy return to the space a few days later on his behalf to retrieve blankets, etc. that he'd apparently stashed in the darkroom. However, what his proxy took was apparently not the blankets that he wanted, and he shortly thereafter came upstairs and went into the darkroom, himself leaving with items that appeared to be bedsheets. The fabric his associate had taken was found in a heap at the bottom of the elevator and returned to the darkroom. Several days later, Jonathan returned to Noisebridge with his hand shoved in a gym bag, claiming he had a gun. He continued pushing past people to get into the main space, screaming constantly about killing everyone and then himself, and that everyone was to leave, or he would kill them all. He also claimed that the cops were hot on his trail and would arrive at Noisebridge at any moment, and that he intended to provoke a suicide-by-cop. Not sure on whether or not he did have a gun, people were not taking a chance as they filed for the exit. However, Derek, Jedi, Rayc, Ben, stayed behind, calling him on his bullshit. Four people swarmed him as he made a b-line sprint for the fire escape. They wrestled him to the floor and removed his bags away from him. Jedi arm barred and escorted Jonathan down the stairs to the sidewalk, bringing him over to the quickly-amassing phalanx of squad cars. Immediate consensus was that he is not welcome in the space again.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
Immediate consensus was that he is not welcome in the space again.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
someone needs to write a choose your own anarchist adventure story based on these forum posts.

or maybe a MUD

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender


multi-coloured piss bottles from their front page

piss hacking

pram
Jun 10, 2001
haha i bet those bottles dont have piss in them at all

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

pram posted:

haha i bet those bottles dont have piss in them at all

if its from noisebridge, yes, they probably do

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Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
a few years back someone was impersonating this "food hacker" on the mailing list (i've been subscribed for years)

https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2012-May/030623.html

quote:

Hi to all!
Someone is trying to use my identity pretending to be me, at least here on the discuss list. The only account which I use for Noisebridge discuss and quite all other hacker&food hacking activities is algoldor at yahoo.com and it is going to stay like that at least for a while.

So it looks like that someone created frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com account and now is posting as me here on the discuss. I think that "the same name possibility" of the owner of the account is close to the zero, and if so it would be likely that the person would notice that there can be confusion not mentioning the low probability of food hacker involved with Noisebridge of the same name.

Now I would like to ask what should I do now? I do not like other people pretending to be me and I want to stop it, they should use their name/identity to do what ever they are after whatever their reasons/motivations are

How can I stop them/what shall I do now?

Shall I contact Google and talk to them explaining the situation? Does someone has some contacts there to help me with that? Can they close the frantisekapfelbeck account based on the unproper type of activities which it is used for?

How to stop this person to missuse my identity at Noisebridge discuss list? Can someone help me with that? My discuss email is algoldor at yahoo.com and that is it, no other ecount, no changes it was not hacked so far as I know (quite suprise there I have to say :-))

How to identify person behing this and expose him/her to the public so people are aware who is doing this? Asking that person to come out by him/herself is probably not going to work, I do understand that there maybe more profoung reasons for this behaviour which can be kind of "out of the control of the given person" so I do not want to be too harsh but still I want this to stop. If I see that it is more complicated I would not expose the identity of that person.

For the future issues of this type. Is there some kind of clear identification of the person's identity? Especially based on open source models, community etc? I can think about our common history online and in the group and of course kind of security questions arrising from my past activities within the group with some people in person which are just one to one experiences and combining these. Some other options?

Well that would be all for now, if you can help me with this as community I would appreciate it I am in a really interesting environment now and I would like to concentrate on my work here, it has great potential! I am switching from daily digest to sort this issue out more quickly.

Sincerely from Hackerspace Seoul,
Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
PS I have enabled 2-step verification for my Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck account (algoldor at gmail.com) and changed the password just to be sure.

biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker

http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org

quote:

Hi to all:

Much to my sadness someone in California appears to have stolen my e-mail
address algoldor at yahoo.com and has been attempting to log into accounts
that belong to me. I was logging into a server and saw that an address that
is not mine has shown up. My linux server is safe but of course a whole
bunch of my accounts could be stolen with this e-mail address. Whoever in
Noisebridge knows what is going on should speak to me as I am rather upset.
I cannot do much from here in Korea.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

--
Sincerely,

Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck

biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker

http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org

quote:

Even if that person is clearly pretending to be me? For example now there would be two persons at Noisebridge discuss claiming to be me, there are already several posts which are in my name and which I did not write at all.

I certainly would like to sort this abuse of my identity here at the discuss so it stops. Based on what you say it is quite unlikely that I will be able to do anything at the "Google level" right?

I do not mind someone else having the same name, well happens fine with me. But acting like he/she is me? Well that is not alright.

Thanks Glen enjoy SF,
Sincerely,

Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker

http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org

"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi

this is the guy


not sure why he was targeted because he's basically mr anderson from beavis and butthead tame but it was funny as hell

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