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Just saw the pilot and really enjoyed it. I can definitely understand this being a much more niche show than House of Cards or Game of Thrones, but that's unfortunate. I just don't think American audiences have a palate or tolerance for Asian-centric material. I don't really understand the Game of Thrones comparison, and the fact that people keep repeating that stinks of ethnocentrism. The strongest part of the show is cinematography. It's as if Hannibal had five times the palette and ten times the budget. The weakest part of the show is definitely dialogue, but it's not cringeworthy by any stretch. It doesn't have the driving plot of House of Cards and I didn't feel compelled to watch episode 2 immediately, but that's not necessarily a problem. The show is certainly not perfect, but it's not bad, and it's a little upsetting that people are trashing it. I think it's incredible this show even exists. $90 million on an "Asian TV show" is pretty amazing. edit: It has an 8.5 on IMDB but 47 on Metacritic. I think that says everything. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Shasta Orange Soda posted:I watched the first episode and a half. The writing is just so bad and the characters are so boring that no amount of cinematography is gonna make up for it. I kept making excuses for it and wanting to like it, but the hackneyed dialogue, the forbidden princess who the main character falls in love with at first sight and she obviously loves him too even though she's mean to him at first and aaauuuggggh are you kidding me with this, Netflix? Basically, all the bad poo poo added up real quick. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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On Rotten Tomatoes, critics ate 27% positive while users are 92%. For comparison, Transformers 4 is 18% critics and 53% users. I have to say, I think the reviewer community got it wrong here. They were so eager to trash Netflix's expensive gambit, comparing it to GoT even though they're nothing alike, overblowing the nudity because something something exploitation of women, and somehow claim the show is racist even though their comparison to GoT is blatantly lazy and racist.
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Hot take: people are just upset that the male protagonist is essentially a manic pixie dream girl.
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Stuporstar posted:Also, I'm up to episode 7, and yet again, their failure to explain some poo poo before it happens has made me go WTF again. This time it's Hundred Eyes just walking away from a fight with Sidao after being ordered to assassinate him. I'm guessing the next episode will fill me in, but this show has a real loving problem with setting up the plot dominos in an order that doesn't make the characters look like loving morons who do things that seem, at the time, inexplicably stupid. Mars4523 posted:Why the gently caress was the white guy sent to spy on a Song Chinese city, anyways?
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WastedJoker posted:That temptation scene was educational.
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etalian posted:asian girl tits, they feel like a bag of rice
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Rocksicles posted:Kublai looks like a pimp in virtually everything. A stately pleasure-dome decree: Where Alph, the sacred river, ran Through caverns measureless to man Down to a sunless sea. So twice five miles of fertile ground With walls and towers were girdled round; And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills, Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree; And here were forests ancient as the hills, Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.
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