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The-Mole posted:Good on you for waking up in the only way that really matters and deciding to turn your life around. Especially for realizing all that before you'd burned every bridge and destroyed everything. I guess while my dopamine receptors get back to normal, not much excites me. I'm currently keeping busy now doing a CDL course that is 8 hours a day, for 6 weeks. It keeps me busy and helps motivate me to continue working towards a better future. I have some pretty strange beliefs about life. I believe in a "higher power" so to say, but I also believe everyone must do a part to help progress mankind. I don't actually have any hobbies other than surfing the internet here and there. Hopefully after everything levels out, I can start doing my part and paying it forward, so to say.
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:
I really, really hope it all works out for you.
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Hey OP, I'm usually just a lurker, but your mention of mushrooms as the catalyst of your positive personal transformation makes me think I might be able to offer a few useful tips since I have quite a bit of experience with the sorts of things you're talking about. First of all, as you know, it's going to take quite awhile for your dopamine, adrenaline, and serotonin receptors to go back to normal. One of the things I've noticed coming off of using way too many stimulants and opiates is that it's a lot easier to not be tempted to use such things again while the bad elements and the nasty aftereffects are fresh in your mind. When you start feeling better, probably in another six months for you, is a point when many people in that same situation will start craving their narcotic of choice again. Now, as you've noticed, psychedelics, compared to your more compulsive dopamine and endorphin acting drugs, can really provide an outside view on yourself, your behavior, your relationships, and the world around you that's very empathetic. Psychedelics are also what gave me the idea that, maybe, staying up for three days every week FURIOUSLY masturbating to increasingly bizarre pornography was perhaps not the ideal way of conducting myself in regard to my wife and even my cat. I've noticed that psychedelics, assuming your not among that small percentage of individuals who are already severely mentally ill by nature and lose their marbles further when introduced to psychedelics (and from what you've reported, I think your nuttiness was an outgrowth of the meth addiction and probably not something innate, I was getting pretty drat weird and paranoid myself towards the end), often produce very positive (altruistic) personality changes. The initial experience doesn't ever seem to totally go away, but what I've noticed is that repeat experiences are necessary to keep the full extent of your new point of view fresh. Which is why you might consider using your psychedelic of choice on an off day every two weeks or maybe every month. In addition to refreshing your outlook, such a practice can make you A LOT less tempted to use more addictive drugs because you're craving a good feeling. Psychedelics are useful, but often harrowing, when you use them while you have a lot of things you're subconsciously guilty about. But they can really feel quite amazing once you're acting in a manner less conducive to self-hate and guilt, especially with music. My favorite psychedelic 4-aco-dmt, which is a tryptamine very similar to psilocybin, is actually still legal (if you're in the US) since it hasn't yet garnered much alarmist yellow journalism. I personally find by going without psychedelics for more than two months I start having "snort a giant pile of cocaine, mephedrone, and inject heroin into my eyeballs" type dreams. Anyway, just something to consider. Good luck and I hope happiness without compulsive narcotic use is in your future. Tajunn fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Tajunn posted:Hey OP, Thanks for the advice. I was actually looking into "obtaining" a couple of ounces of shrooms, but since you mentioned 4-aco-dmt, I might just look into that. You are 100% spot on about the mushrooms making you aware of your subconscious guilt. I firmly believe a large deal of addicts could be cured by being prescribed mushrooms, and then having to sit in a room with a therapist for a few hours.
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Yeah, after doing really well and quitting meth you should start taking Research Chemicals. That's an idea that surely can't backfire.
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There's a reason we normally keep all those posts constrained to TCC.
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Yeah it's not like psychedelic drugs are known to exacerbate delusional disorders or anything. Also, if you are going to do psychedelics after experiencing a psychotic episode, its an especially good idea to take a mysterious untested compound cooked up in a Chinese lab and sold to weird shutins on the internet instead of drugs that have a long history of use and have been researched by actual doctors.
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Dec 20, 2014 20:08
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lsd is tried and tested and it's what i'd recommend
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Yeah best solution to a drug problem and some mental issues is obviously more (and crazier) drugs.
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Guys, i'm obviously not going to order a bunch of research chemicals from a shady company, come on. But i'm definitely going to eat more mushrooms, sorry. AllPraiseToAllah fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Dec 21, 2014 |
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Why? You went to all that trouble getting rid of a meth habit and you're going to take different drugs? You want to be a better person and yet you're going to keep taking loving drugs? I can't relate to this because I've never had an addiction, but come on this has to be the most stupid idea I have ever heard of. Go get your kicks from somewhere else you retard. Why don't you donate the money you would use to buy mushrooms or use it to learn a productive hobby. Just don't delude yourself into thinking you are over drugs because you're obviously not.
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Lord Windy posted:Why? You went to all that trouble getting rid of a meth habit and you're going to take different drugs? You want to be a better person and yet you're going to keep taking loving drugs? I can't relate to this because I've never had an addiction, but come on this has to be the most stupid idea I have ever heard of. The only reason I kicked meth, was because of mushrooms. If not having a daily meth habit, means having to take mushrooms once every three months, I'm okay with that. Most addicts do good for several months, then one day out of the blue, end up loving up worse then before. Its a very high percentage, something like 98%. I believe the one thing that made me stop, is the same thing thing that will keep me to stay away for the most difficult time of "recovery." Thanks for the advice on kicking a meth habit though. "Spend the money on a hobby you retard."
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Lord Windy posted:Why? You went to all that trouble getting rid of a meth habit and you're going to take different drugs? You want to be a better person and yet you're going to keep taking loving drugs? I can't relate to this because I've never had an addiction, but come on this has to be the most stupid idea I have ever heard of. The difference between some psychedelic and meth (or another addictive narcotic like opiates) is huge and they really can't be compared (I say this as someone who has never had a psychedelic so I don't have any personal attachment to them). Psychedelics aren't physically addictive and generally aren't mentally addictive, which basically completely removes the factor that makes addictive drugs so dangerous. Even meth wouldn't be dangerous if not for the fact that people become addicted to it (which leads them to take it chronically or take dangerously large doses).
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Yeah the danger of slipping back into meth addiction has got to be 1000x greater than the danger of getting addicted to loving mushrooms. OP, was there a large social element to your meth use? Did you have regular meth smoking buddies, and if so, what's your relationship to them now?
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:The only reason I kicked meth, was because of mushrooms. That poster was a dick. It might be a good idea to figure out what exactly shrooms give you mentally/emotionally/spiritually so you can find that for yourself and not have yet another clinging relationship of "need" -- it might be beneficial to go from "I need shrooms to be happy with myself and not be addicted to meth" to "I am happy with myself and not addicted to meth." But that's up to you of course, but addressing whatever thought patterns are underneath your addiction in every waking moment rather than feeling you need a crutch in the form of shrooms might bring you longer lasting happiness. Obviously they've been a valuable crutch to you so far, so I can't really say, but it maybe it's worth thinking about.
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CDL really seems like the wrong career move if you want to avoid meth, heh.
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Khizan posted:CDL really seems like the wrong career move if you want to avoid meth, heh. High speed chicken feed. If you go looking for meth, you're going to find it. Contact any Tranny off back page, and you won't have any problem picking up a gram within the hour. Seriously, it's that easy. FYI i'm not into chicks with dicks. AllPraiseToAllah fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Dec 21, 2014 |
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:FYI i'm not into chicks with dicks. Why the hell not, it's the best of both worlds.
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Scald posted:Why the hell not, it's the best of both worlds. Can't get over the deep voice/ Thick facial stubble/ broad shoulders.
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:Can't get over the deep voice/ Thick facial stubble/ broad shoulders. You gotta be selective about it, asians make the best tranny's.
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Scald posted:You gotta be selective about it, asians make the best tranny's. See, here is where i'm confused. A really open tranny told me once that, "No one pays a transsexual escort to get hosed in the rear end. 99% of the guys going to see trannies, wanted the trannies to stick it in their rear end. No one who sees a tranny wants to pitch, they want to catch." I had to sit outside of ones hotel room I was buying from one time while she had a "customer." I'm sitting in my car, and out walks a pretty tough looking dude with quite a "swagger" in his walk. He jumps in this nice, giant pickup truck. Had to of been a $55,000 dollar truck. Loud as poo poo, high up in the air, and spit black smoke from the exhaust while he peeled off into the night. It was basically the manliest truck you could think of. She texts me to go inside, and I comment, "that guy was walking like he just did a number on you." He/she replies back, "Number on me? He's probably walking like that because hes airing out the gaping hole I just left in his rear end." Now anytime I see someone with a big, expensive truck, I just assume they are undercover gay. AllPraiseToAllah fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Dec 21, 2014 |
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:Now anytime I see someone with a big, expensive truck, I just assume they are undercover gay. I could have told you that, and I've never been addicted to meth/hung around tranny hookers.
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Alex DeLarge posted:I could have told you that, and I've never been addicted to meth/hung around tranny hookers. Post a pic of your sweet truck for us then.
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:I have some pretty strange beliefs about life. I believe in a "higher power" so to say, but I also believe everyone must do a part to help progress mankind. I don't actually have any hobbies other than surfing the internet here and there. Hopefully after everything levels out, I can start doing my part and paying it forward, so to say. This is not a strange belief at all. I imagine it's fairly common.
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Dude, just remember the shrooms were the catalyst for you coming to this realisation. They are not going to save you. Substituting one thing for another is not the way back to normality. I came to a huge amount of realisations about my life on LSD. I did it every day for 2 weeks or so straight last year and fried my brain thinking that I was thinking clearer on it. LSD is a great way to step out for a while, but I would be seriously careful about using it like a replacement for self examination. Not trying to condescend to you. Just relating my own experiences.
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Doctor Malaver posted:This is not a strange belief at all. I imagine it's fairly common. I also believe that higher power has been created by man via technology  so it's best to be a good person and do what you can to help man kind because they are always watching.
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Lonos Oboe posted:Dude, just remember the shrooms were the catalyst for you coming to this realisation. They are not going to save you. Substituting one thing for another is not the way back to normality. I came to a huge amount of realisations about my life on LSD. I did it every day for 2 weeks or so straight last year and fried my brain thinking that I was thinking clearer on it. LSD is a great way to step out for a while, but I would be seriously careful about using it like a replacement for self examination. Not trying to condescend to you. Just relating my own experiences. i'll gladly trip on toadstools monthly to keep the meth urges at bay.
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:i'll gladly trip on toadstools monthly to keep the meth urges at bay. As is your right. All I am saying is give yourself the credit for kicking the meth. Shrooms may have helped you realise you needed to get off it but you don't NEED mushrooms to be straight. They are awesome and like I said, they can help you step out and see things differently sometimes. But it's all you man. Just giving you the credit you deserve.
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:Now anytime I see someone with a big, expensive truck, I just assume they are undercover gay. Doctor Malaver posted:This is not a strange belief at all. I imagine it's fairly common.
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AllPraiseToAllah posted:I seriously doubt it. Ehh...you can make it past 6-7 days but the amount you have to use to do so is just awful. I feel your shame, was a 1-2g a day user for 2 years, this upcoming March will be one year clean. It's just awful, fun and great for the first few months and then you just gotta keep using. Or at least that's what it did to me.
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I have to side with everyone who is telling you that substituting one drug with another is not the right answer, but at the same time, I've also never been or even tried meth, so I can't say I totally understand your situation. I only hope you can maybe find life without drugs. Also, I smoke about an ounce of weed a month/4 weeks. Am I done for OP? What about my dopamine receptors?
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LordKaiok posted:Ehh...you can make it past 6-7 days but the amount you have to use to do so is just awful. I feel your shame, was a 1-2g a day user for 2 years, this upcoming March will be one year clean. It's just awful, fun and great for the first few months and then you just gotta keep using. Or at least that's what it did to me. This is not to take away from OP's ability to get off meth, I admire that and I'm really impressed and happy for them. But a true addict, IMHO, can't "just stop".
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Fair enough. I am an addict, by your definition. I drink a helluva lot more now than I used to. I know good and well that if I had access to meth I'd be right back on it. Luckily enough I don't know anyone where I live now so the temptation is easy enough to avoid for now. And temptation think, before I smoked meth, I just used various things recreationaly. OP: you might want to try just not using anything at all lest you be tempted to do more.
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photomikey posted:OP is not an addict. An addict can't be hooked on meth and then go "man this is terrible, I should stop" and then just stop. An addict is addicted. If an addict manages to stop meth then an addict will get into coke or weed or cigarettes or coffee or buying really expensive stereo parts where getting the next great thing is an obsession. They either take one obsession and OD and die, or eventually stop and trade it for another obsession. It's a gene. A personality thing. Basically yeah, although it's not quite as bleak as all that. Help does exist, and addicts can live fairly normal lives. It's a very difficult and time-consuming process, though, and relapses are par for the course. I hesitate to use the term "true" addiction, I'm not trying to set up a hierarchy here, but you can loosely divide users into two categories, those who can stop on their own and those who can't. Incidentally, every single person I know in the latter category suffers from depression, and every single person I know in the former category does not. That's not to say the depression and addiction are the same thing, or that one causes the other, but there's a strong link to be sure. My personal theory is that this is because depression attacks the tools you can use to fight dependency, namely willpower and self-esteem. But that's a whole other discussion. OP, congratulations on kicking meth. I'm an addict myself (clean for almost 10 years  ) and though I never used meth, I know that coming off of it can be a real soul-destroyer. Much applause for pulling it off. Seriously. As to the future... I could tell you 'stay away from drugs' and all that, but you know as well as anyone what the risks are. I will say this, though: if you find yourself in a bad spot again, remember the people who matter the most to you. Loved ones, friends, family, whoever you're close to. Addiction can really bring out selfishness and helplessness in us, and human connections are a great way to reduce its impact on your life. Plus, those connections can help pull you away from the brink. Or out of the ditch, if it comes to that.
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