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BillmasterCozb posted:http://i.imgur.com/5RtbpTF.jpg (Spoilers? Click if you want to see, it was too big to embed here) Why do I keep seeing this guy? I saw him on a cliff in the first area.. He plays the trumpet in the hub areas for you. Its rather nice of him to give you music, don't you think?
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Le bad fashion trumpet man is a reddit meme that got put in thanks to a kickstarter backer.
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Oct 28, 2015 01:50
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BillmasterCozb posted:http://i.imgur.com/5RtbpTF.jpg (Spoilers? Click if you want to see, it was too big to embed here) Why do I keep seeing this guy? I saw him on a cliff in the first area.. lol
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Oct 28, 2015 01:55
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He's probably not important, I wouldn't pay him any further attention
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Oct 28, 2015 04:45
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You know who was important? Wally. Also, Buckets is pretty good..when he isn't suffering from loving joy withdrawal.
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Oct 28, 2015 06:21
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quote:I mean, Brad just beats up Hawke and you can even talk to him after. In fact his gang thanks you for taking him down a peg because he's kind of a jerk. Same with Buff Van Dyke's gang. The Devil's Bath House Boys you do kill, though. Well I meant moreso that he destroys their gangs. Killing is just a bonus. Also I killed Buffalo in my last playthrough by taking him to endgame, so I'm a jerk. There is absolutely a difference between Brad's way of killing and Buddy's way of killing - but a big part of it is that they're different characters. Buddy was explicitly taught by Brad to kill people she doesn't trust. Add in the revelation that she is literally the most important human of all time and history holy poo poo and a drug that amplifies her intentions and you have someone who would either kill because it's necessary (which she does) or because it's convenient (which she also does). Frankly, I'd peg more of peoples dislike of Buddy on her gender and her past characterization than because it's somehow unthinkable compared to what Brad did. And I will admit her past characterization is at odds with her in LtJ (which is unequivocally a misstep on Ding's part)
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Oct 28, 2015 17:48
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Resort island sounds like a blast! Or not! Edit: nope
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Oct 28, 2015 20:52
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Not feeling good about the decision I made getting to area 2. Rip Fardy, there are no more tears where you are now  . I mean mechanically it was absolutely the right choice, but still, drat.Somehow got through the mandatory Russian Roulette completely unscathed though: Rooster will live to fight another day  e: overall I'm totally in love with this game, I guess I have a fondness for emotionally brutal, post-apocalyptic sad-dad games with great soundtracks (I loving loved Nier and The Last of Us was also pretty good-it's really interesting to directly compare the games actually, in particular how TLoU is probably the least emotionally devastating of the three* but also the least overtly humourous). *which is sort of like being a bronze medal Olympiad ManlyGrunting fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Oct 28, 2015 21:09
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Aw yes, I got Mike's belt buckle! It looks good on Brad.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:43
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I gotta say, whoever said that the game is hardest on the first third wasn't kidding; if you explore thoroughly enough Brad is like level 30 by endgame: glad Satan was there though, he was a fun fight (Fly, Olan and Harvey, for those curious: great mixture of sheer damage and status effects). Also Peter broke the necks of both Shocklord and Mad Dog, and I had to reset. I cannot live in a world without Shocklord, he is all that is good in this dying world (rip Olan Harvey and Yazan though, you guys were a good party and I hate that I had to kill you twice because I hit Joy withdrawal seconds before fighting the final boss). So yeah, onto the Joyful, which I'm told does away with things like "jokes" and "the ability to not take the drug that turns you into a Cronenberg monster". I like this game a lot, maybe even slightly more than Undertale, but it's been bad on my liver. Still feel kind of bad about recruiting Crisp by holding his boyfriend hostage than immediately having him turned into ground beef by a Joy mutant.
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Nov 5, 2015 18:15
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ManlyGrunting posted:So yeah, onto the Joyful, which I'm told does away with things like "jokes" and "the ability to not take the drug that turns you into a Cronenberg monster". I like this game a lot, maybe even slightly more than Undertale, but it's been bad on my liver. Still feel kind of bad about recruiting Crisp by holding his boyfriend hostage than immediately having him turned into ground beef by a Joy mutant. Oh, you can still play The Joyful without using Joy, but it makes the game an agonizing slog. Dingaling expects the player to use Joy through The Joyful. He had enough people complaining that there weren't enough restorative items that he went back and added graffiti in the world to remind people to "USE JOY".
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Blind Sally posted:he went back and added graffiti in the world to remind people to "USE JOY". Which made people not want to use it!  Just use it... 
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Blind Sally posted:Oh, you can still play The Joyful without using Joy, but it makes the game an agonizing slog. Dingaling expects the player to use Joy through The Joyful. He had enough people complaining that there weren't enough restorative items that he went back and added graffiti in the world to remind people to "USE JOY".
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Nov 6, 2015 03:32
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Fat and Useless posted:Which made people not want to use it! I got up to Big L before I used a single Joy, and I was able to push him down to near death before he smoked me. Use the loving Joy.
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Nov 6, 2015 16:09
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I got through the entire game without popping a single Joy pill. I am the dumb. It's me. Seriously, you need to be ridiculously meticulous with your healing items and pretty lucky with crits to even get past Big Lincoln without drug abuse. It's not worth the moral victory.
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Nov 6, 2015 16:11
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I had a whole bunch of horse jerky because it was the only thing I bought in the game, and I'm really good with timing my attacks, so Joy usage wasn't really a problem for me. It is weird that after the Painful drills it into you to NEVER use joy because of the awful things it does, the Joyful says "the gently caress, you're not using joy? Idiot, just shove it in your mouth and you're good to go!" But I did use it one time, during the fight before Gallows. WHY DID I HAVE TO KILL GARY THE HOT SOUP? This game has turned me into a bigger monster than any joy mutant could ever be.. Oh, also, I bought the art + music thing, how do I access it?
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Nov 6, 2015 16:34
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The joy issue in Joyful was because everybody was expecting a different ending if you didn't use any joy in it. Music is located in the LISA steam folder I think C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\LISA
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Golden Goat posted:The joy issue in Joyful was because everybody was expecting a different ending if you didn't use any joy in it. Which is a poor lesson to get from playing The Painful, given Brad's ending and Buddy already being hooked on it by then. Use all drugs, don't deny what you will become, it is out of your hands.
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I mean, The Painful doesn't even really say "don't use joy." People just feel guilty if Brad continues to take drugs and so they don't do it. There's a small incentive to try it out, given the extra ending, but otherwise, Joy is a pretty useful tool for maxing out damage of a number of characters.
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ZearothK posted:Which is a poor lesson to get from playing The Painful, given Brad's ending and Buddy already being hooked on it by then. Use all drugs, don't deny what you will become, it is out of your hands. "It's too late to fight it."
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Brad had reasons to both use and avoid joy while Buddy spends a majority of the game having zero qualms about giving in and going on benders.
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Finished my second run, Pain Mode on. I got to say, it wasn't all that bad. The worst part was exploding save points, since I had moments where I goofed and fell off the screen and had to redo entire portions of the game because I couldn't get to a save point before then. Otherwise it's not so awful. The ending you get with Dusty for it all is really brutal though. I'm glad Joyful partly focused on Rando's development as well as Buddy's.
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Blind Sally posted:I mean, The Painful doesn't even really say "don't use joy." People just feel guilty if Brad continues to take drugs and so they don't do it. There's a small incentive to try it out, given the extra ending, but otherwise, Joy is a pretty useful tool for maxing out damage of a number of characters. Yeah, this. My second run through Painful, I saved up Joy for really lovely fights, and used it with wild abandon, especially when I lost the second arm. EDIT: keeping the quoted text as a testament to my inability to pay attention. That scene (the Marty fight) is also never referenced again. Others aren't, either, but... Oh, right, and for clarity on an earlier post: I'm honestly not sure why I thought Marty gave Buddy joy, or encouraged the habit? See above on how split my playthrough was in the first place. Old Boot fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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Old Boot posted:That scene is also never referenced again. Others aren't, either, but... i thought buddy later says "a real loving father wouldn't have done what you did to marty" or something later on
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ninjewtsu posted:i thought buddy later says "a real loving father wouldn't have done what you did to marty" or something later on It's something like 'Only a monster could have done that to him,' but Buddy does reference it later.
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Well, beat the Joyful. Holy poo poo, it was really good but god drat.
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Finished the Painful. I've got to say, there's a certain twinge of satisfaction you get every time Brad literally fights off his Joy cravings, even if it's all for nothing in the end. I really liked Buzzo as a character, even with how much pain he puts Brad through -- he had very strong convictions, and seemed to believe he was doing it all to punish Brad. When it came time to choose whether to give up Brad's entire party or let Buzzo hurt Buddy, he even freaked out and called Brad a little poo poo for choosing to give up his friends instead, and made him confirm his decision. It almost felt like Buzzo was trying to force Brad to admit that Buddy was never his, that he wasn't meant to protect Buddy at all. If not for him being so willing to cut up Buddy, I'd have thought Buzzo was related to her somehow, and was getting back at Brad for stealing her from him. Is it ever explained what Buzzo is talking about when he says that Buddy could have been an asset with the other women?
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:Is it ever explained what Buzzo is talking about when he says that Buddy could have been an asset with the other women? Dingaling drastically changed his plans for LtJ between finishing LtP and finishing LtJ. IMO it turned out for the worse, but who knows.
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Anatharon posted:Dingaling drastically changed his plans for LtJ between finishing LtP and finishing LtJ. IMO it turned out for the worse, but who knows. What was the original plan? Is it online anywhere?
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ro5s posted:What was the original plan? Is it online anywhere? The rough idea is Buddy would've been more focused on trying to figure out her own origins after disowning Brad as her father. There was more to it, but that was the elevator pitch basically. I asked him about it on Steam and he didn't go into any more detail. It'd be fascinating to see his earlier story drafts. On a different note, he's posted his first bit of concept art for his next game, tenatively called Ninja Tears.  It won't be pixel-y like LISA, it'll be HD.
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Going through Pain mode right now The only real kick in the dick was the roulette  fourteen times in a row without anyone dying So I thought "gently caress it", and got out with only Beastman and Percy dying. But hey, Buckets is still a bucket of fun! Except for Joy Withdrawl. Good thing the mutants are plentiful
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What was changed in updates that made LTJ easier? I must've imagined Rando sticking around.
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RareAcumen posted:What was changed in updates that made LTJ easier? I must've imagined Rando sticking around. not even close
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RareAcumen posted:What was changed in updates that made LTJ easier? I must've imagined Rando sticking around. More combat skills, most notably a sleep bomb.
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Blind Sally posted:A literal """"""""""Easy Mode"""""""""". Sorry, I realized there should be more quotations around it.
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Easy mode really made up for any issues I had with the rest of Joyful's tone. "I'm a big mean boy! And you've been acting like a real downer. Not really relationship material."
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In my first run I shunned easy mode because I didn't need that crap. In my second run I thought "eh what the hell" and feel foolish for shunning it before.
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