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Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

effectual posted:

Sounds like Haywire

Do you recommend it? I'm conceptually interested, but I expect Gina Carano probably can't act, given her role in Deadpool.

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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

Jack of Hearts posted:

Do you recommend it? I'm conceptually interested, but I expect Gina Carano probably can't act, given her role in Deadpool.

Gina Carano's acting in Deadpool was better than in Haywire. That said, it's worth a look.

Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

I personally wouldn't mind seeing a female secret agent of 00 status, in James Bonds world. I adored Michelle Yeoh and Rosamund Pike. Introduce some of the other 00 agents, give them names, then spin them off into a solo movie or three. Do the whole franchise thing Hollywood is so enamoured of lately.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Moreau posted:

I personally wouldn't mind seeing a female secret agent of 00 status, in James Bonds world. I adored Michelle Yeoh and Rosamund Pike. Introduce some of the other 00 agents, give them names, then spin them off into a solo movie or three. Do the whole franchise thing Hollywood is so enamoured of lately.

And get some talent in there to play her. Like an Oscar winner. Maybe name her Jinx or something.

I'm just spitballing here.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

The Bond extended universe.

Featuring Bond's evil twin, Blofeld Jaames

Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

thrawn527 posted:

And get some talent in there to play her. Like an Oscar winner. Maybe name her Jinx or something.

I'm just spitballing here.

I remember reading about those plans before the movie came out, and even then - I just couldn't see it. Never having seen Monsters Ball, Im not entirely sure how Halle got the Oscar - I've never seen her in anything that warranted such. Jinx certainly backs that up.

I couldnt figure it out.

But hey, cast Felicity Jones, Daisy Ridley, Emily Blunt, etc. Get some Bond luminaries in there - Diana Rigg, Jane Seymour, Honor Blackman, Daniela Bianchi - to fill out the roles; I'd watch it! Never happen, of course.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Strategic Tea posted:

The Bond extended universe.

Featuring Bond's evil twin, Blofeld Jaames

Star Wars EU crossover? Cmon di$ney!

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

effectual posted:

Star Wars EU crossover? Cmon di$ney!

Daniel Craig already played a stormtrooper, why not?

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

A period piece, genderswapped Felix Leighter film. I'd say race swapped but that already happened and also I just realized we're back to Jinx again.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Felix Leiter period piece / origin story where they explain why he looks different via time travel.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005

Moreau posted:

I remember reading about those plans before the movie came out, and even then - I just couldn't see it. Never having seen Monsters Ball, Im not entirely sure how Halle got the Oscar - I've never seen her in anything that warranted such. Jinx certainly backs that up.

I couldnt figure it out.


My theory was always blowjobs. Lots and lots of blowjobs.

This is what I remember of Monster's Ball outside of Hale Berry & Billy Bob Thornton. Puff Daddy was a con waiting to be executed. Heath Ledger had an insanely bit part in the movie, to such a degree that it seemed odd that a guy with a bit of a name was even in the role and he disappears for good VERY early. It looked like Hale Berry & Angelina Joilee's ex hosed FOR REALS on camera and the original score, especially over the end, was very stirring.

But nothing you give Academy Awards over.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




I remember it being a pretty good performance. Certainly not the worst academy award performance.

Super uncool to imply that she slept her way to an award.

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

Halle Berry is just noticeably in over her head in every action role she's ever been in. Which makes it incredibly strange that there have been multiple attempts to make her an action star

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.

well why not posted:

Felix Leiter period piece / origin story where they explain why he looks different via time travel.

Actually I have this theory that "Felix Leiter" is actuality a code name and

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken
Obviously they're all Time Lords.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Simplex posted:

Halle Berry is just noticeably in over her head in every action role she's ever been in. Which makes it incredibly strange that there have been multiple attempts to make her an action star

There aren't any black women who are really action stars now that Pam Grier's too old to do much. I would imagine it's mostly that starvation at work, plus Berry having been legitimately bankable for a couple years helped.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

There aren't any black women who are really action stars now that Pam Grier's too old to do much. I would imagine it's mostly that starvation at work, plus Berry having been legitimately bankable for a couple years helped.

"Then find one, for gently caress's sake," I think is a fairly reasonable response.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0757855/?ref_=nv_sr_1 maybe? Her solo movie didn't do well but she's been in a lot of group movies.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Vagabundo posted:

"Then find one, for gently caress's sake," I think is a fairly reasonable response.

The formula of "fund a shitton of microbudget movies, repeat until one is successful" seems to have given us a ton of male stars, visionary directors and comedy leads, why the gently caress not a black female action star.

The call for more films helmed and staring people of color is loud as gently caress. I legit do not understand the issue with trying to put together something to meet a market like that. Is the fallout from Scott Pilgrim so bad that "never trust the internet" is ingrained in every studio's marketing plan right now?

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

It doesn't help that right now Hollywood doesn't make many low-budget action films; at least, ones that get theatrically released. There just isn't as much hunger for down-and-dirty no-frills action as there was in, say, the 80's and 90's, where most of the people you think of as action heroes got their start.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Vagabundo posted:

"Then find one, for gently caress's sake," I think is a fairly reasonable response.

Someone was asking why Halle Berry was getting pushed. I'm not saying they shouldn't do that to many more, I'm just offering a justification for why Berry was getting an action star push in spite of... not really being suited to it.

Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Someone was asking why Halle Berry was getting pushed. I'm not saying they shouldn't do that to many more, I'm just offering a justification for why Berry was getting an action star push in spite of... not really being suited to it.

Were there any other casting choices for Jinx? Or was it Halle Berry, done and dusted?

I always like the idea of a competent female partner (or adversary) for Bond - I absolutely loved Michelle Yeoh in Tomorrow Never Dies. Its a shame that the rot had well and truly set in for Brosnan's Bond by that film. She deserved better. But then, I guess, so did Pierce.

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

Halle Berry is the highest profile Bond girl at the time of casting that there has been, so it makes sense that they had to give her more to do in the role than other Bond girls. I think the problem is they just really needed to go in different direction with her character than female American Bond, because she could not pull that off at all.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Jack of Hearts posted:

Do you recommend it? I'm conceptually interested, but I expect Gina Carano probably can't act, given her role in Deadpool.

I like it, but it's in a weird place where it's a really well-made movie with classy actors built to showcase Carano's ability to convincingly gently caress people up. Her acting isn't great, but she's playing a one-note badass like Dirty Harry so I don't really think it hurts the movie.

It's like if one of Steven Segal's early movies before he got fat was cast like Oscar bait and directed by someone good.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

She's a better actor than Ronda Rousey but that's not really saying much.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
Oh hey, it's Le Chiffre from Casino Royale, advertising making bets on risky financial assets!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_-gmK5qRrY

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TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Dead Snoopy posted:

My theory was always blowjobs. Lots and lots of blowjobs.

This is what I remember of Monster's Ball outside of Hale Berry & Billy Bob Thornton. Puff Daddy was a con waiting to be executed. Heath Ledger had an insanely bit part in the movie, to such a degree that it seemed odd that a guy with a bit of a name was even in the role and he disappears for good VERY early. It looked like Hale Berry & Angelina Joilee's ex hosed FOR REALS on camera and the original score, especially over the end, was very stirring.

But nothing you give Academy Awards over.

Real talk if they weren't actually slamming in that movie then his ween was at least smacking up on her cooter enough that they might as well have.

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