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The absolute worst thing to happen to this game was when Wargaming hired an economist to manage their special offers.
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McGavin posted:I would rather have the black market, where things are for sale at a known price, than blind bidding on poo poo in an auction. Oh poo poo I forgot about that. Yeah  ...
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Jan 18, 2022 01:52
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Just had my 1st match with a wheeled scout. Yeah, that poo poo is broken. Fun for me but had to be miserable for the other team.
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Jan 18, 2022 03:48
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If there's one thing I agree with Klaus about it's that the Mario Karts make the game shittier, and T10 is already lovely enough as-is. Those turn radii are bullshit and should flip the goddamned things. When they take a shot to the tires/axle it should kill the engine and force them to coast on their built-up momentum until they repair.
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Jan 18, 2022 05:02
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Getting the PzV/IV for so little back in one of the past Black Markets was actually a very good deal. WG doesn't like good deals. WG likes the player base cutting each others' throats to have the new shiny. BIG HEADLINE posted:If there's one thing I agree with Klaus about it's that the Mario Karts make the game shittier, and T10 is already lovely enough as-is.
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Jan 18, 2022 06:35
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luv 2 shoot 183mm HE into ~invincibility wheels~
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Jan 18, 2022 08:38
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Arrrggghhh I want the gold tank Set Asia free and let us pay gold
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Jan 18, 2022 10:10
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And sure enough. https://twitter.com/WorldofTanksEU/status/1483367307028086792 Minimum bid: 25k gold (lol) or 500 000 free XP (lmao) E: and they're also selling the non-gold version (which is an identical tank) for real money on the RU servers.
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Jan 18, 2022 10:30
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I haven't played my regular Type 59 in forever, it's just not that good anymore and if I want to make quick money there are better options. Only thing left going for it is pref MM but you're still getting matched against all the OP premiums so what's the point?
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Jan 18, 2022 10:42
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Vando posted:I haven't played my regular Type 59 in forever, it's just not that good anymore and if I want to make quick money there are better options. Only thing left going for it is pref MM but you're still getting matched against all the OP premiums so what's the point? I've played it sporadically over recent years but they've buffed it, it might not be "meta" but it's a T-54A at tier 8 with pref MM, it's good enough. Decent gun, armor, and it has ammo now! Shaman Tank Spec posted:E: and they're also selling the non-gold version (which is an identical tank) for real money on the RU servers. This would be the Type 59 "OG"  Katamari Democracy posted:Were the actors they got to play in the videos from the Black Market cost too much money or something? God forbid you take away a little personality from the game all to save money for hookers or whatever. To be fair, what would you rather spend money on, hookers or midgets?  BIG HEADLINE posted:Especially because the latter just gives WG useful metrics for how much *more* they can charge for poo poo. I don't think you can conclude that the event prices reflect what people would pay normally. This "blind auction" and "limited quantities" bullshit prevents people from making an educated value assessment, so players with the resources to blow participate. Otherwise they're not just going to overpay for "regular" sales, knowing what the current price is and that in the future it will generally drop. After all, nowadays the marathon tanks usually sell for like $70-80+ IIRC with no stages completed, which is far more than the ~$60 or whatever that the AMBT went for, and then later on the marathon tanks are always re-sold at a discount.
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Jan 18, 2022 10:57
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Atomizer posted:This would be the Type 59 "OG" It's double OG for me, it was the first premium I ever bought. It also still has my best (or second best after the SU-122-44?) stats of all my premiums because back when we played in a platoon with a good player and a literal super unicum, which tended to boost my winrate a bit.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:It's double OG for me, it was the first premium I ever bought. It also still has my best (or second best after the SU-122-44?) stats of all my premiums because back when we played in a platoon with a good player and a literal super unicum, which tended to boost my winrate a bit. My Churchill III has slightly better stats than my OG Type 59, but only slightly. The Type was definitely godlike at release. If you want to count tech tree tanks as well, though, they're nowhere close to my stats in the 3601H, of course, but what could be?
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My top 10 tanks by WN8, filtering out tanks I've only played a few times (minimum 25 games). I'd be interested to see what you guys have. E: this is from tomato.gg in case anyone doesn't already know the best WoT stat page. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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Jan 18, 2022 14:39
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My shameful top 15: Basically I'm a P2W sealclubbing h4xx0r who's very bad at tanks and also going to hell.  Also, some of these stats are wonky because of tech tree fuckery; my T56 GMC stats are actually from the old T82, and I've no idea what the gently caress a T-150 is.
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Jan 18, 2022 16:25
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Laughing my nuts off at the idea of spending 25,000G on the Type 59 in any way, shape or form. Sure it never sees Tier X but ultimately it still finds itself having to directly face off against a multitude of OP Tier VIII premiums which can rip it apart.
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:Laughing my nuts off at the idea of spending 25,000G on the Type 59 in any way, shape or form. Sure it never sees Tier X but ultimately it still finds itself having to directly face off against a multitude of OP Tier VIII premiums which can rip it apart. Yeah. After the buffs it's a decent T8 premium, but nowhere near the top anymore. It's been powercrept by so many OP premiums that it's absolutely nothing special anymore and you can get a much better experience by buying a CS-52 Lis or something.
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Jan 18, 2022 17:02
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My top 10 with 25 games minimum: These are pretty drat old stats though, I don't think I've played Tetrarch since the month it came out.
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The Type 61 feels like a massive bummer. The stock turret is just loving awful and has a god drat second mini turret on top to ensure you can't actually try to go hull down anywhere. Only 50 000 XP to replace it! Get grinding, motherfucker!
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Yeah, I'm not even going to try for the Type 59G. My guess is that on NA ~55k gold is going to be the sweet spot. Not in *any* lifetime for a T8 premium.
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I'll bid 26k just in case but goddamn with only 500 units the minimum bid is going to be in the 40k range
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The numbers you're posting about the auction are wild to me. I've not put money into this because I've always seen the gold ammo/premium tanks as a mild pay to win. I know WoT made the high pen ammo purchasable with credit but skins/emotes/hats in TF2, dota, Fortnite don't generally hit $40+ direct from the developers.
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Gorman Thomas posted:I'll bid 26k just in case but goddamn with only 500 units the minimum bid is going to be in the 40k range It's obviously your money, but there's no universe where a Type 59, gold or no, is worth 90 bucks. E: lol the Type 61's second turret ALSO has such a loving huge tumor on top that you can't really hull down with the thing. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:The Type 61 feels like a massive bummer. The stock turret is just loving awful and has a god drat second mini turret on top to ensure you can't actually try to go hull down anywhere. Only 50 000 XP to replace it! Get grinding, motherfucker! I think I free xp'd the modules on that tank, I really enjoyed it with top everything. The top turret bounces more than it should, but is not reliable in anyway. I think a lot of people aim for the cupola thinking they need to and end up taking bad shots. BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, I'm not even going to try for the Type 59G. My guess is that on NA ~55k gold is going to be the sweet spot. I don't understand why WG insists on ending all their auction events with disappointing tanks. Wonder if they are just conditioning people to spend early instead of saving to the end, since the end will almost always be a let down.
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TracerM17 posted:I don't understand why WG insists on ending all their auction events with disappointing tanks. Wonder if they are just conditioning people to spend early instead of saving to the end, since the end will almost always be a let down. For the type of people WG targets with this stuff, the Type 59G is an incredibly exciting tank
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Save your gold for battle pass stuff. Better way to spend gold.
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My top 15 win8 shame wall: It should be noted that a lot of these tanks were played back at launch-ish time which really skews the results to today. Particularly arty. And especially the su-26 as it used to have one hell of an rear end in a top hat howitzer gun that got removed. Also, I did a lot of 2-3 man su-26 platoons with it. Just rape cage of the low tiers when you have a full platoon of arty on voice chat calling targets.
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Gotta say I am actually kinda surprised with some of these.  Also, I did 50+ battles because I have like 1 game in the defender and it was like 6.5k wn8. Fake Edit: I didn't do 15 because I am too lazy to count to 15.
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Katamari Democracy posted:Save your gold for battle pass stuff. Better way to spend gold. any idea when the next battle pass kicks off?
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Raged posted:any idea when the next battle pass kicks off? Maybe when the Yoh tanks come out sometime possibly February or March. Friendly reminder that the Yoh tanks are coming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AYY35j0DYk
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45276g wasn't enough to get the T59G on NA. That exact amount left me with 25k left over, which I figured was enough for "miscellany" and module xp conversion.
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McGavin posted:Jesus. Yeah, I didn't even *want* the loving thing but I figured "hey, why not, maybe I'd be the lowest successful bidder." Oh well, guess I'm set for module conversions for the foreseeable future.
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According to reddit, 40,100 was enough on EU. 50,300 on NA.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:45276g wasn't enough to get the T59G on NA. That exact amount left me with 25k left over, which I figured was enough for "miscellany" and module xp conversion. 150 dollars. People were paying more than 150 dollars for a Type 59.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:150 dollars. People were paying more than 150 dollars for a Type 59. A little over $200, it sounds like. And you just know someone dropped 100k gold "just to make sure," too. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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100%. There were some of those guys on Reddit. They're going to be real loving disappointed when it turns out the tank wasn't actually 200 bucks OP, it was just rare (at a point in the past, but not so rare anymore thanks to repeated sales).
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JuffoWup posted:My top 15 win8 shame wall: I was gonna say, the SU-26, hoo boy, that's a blast from the past. Nobody plays that thing anymore! dennyk posted:My shameful top 15: I think the T-150 was the result of the KV expansion (into that and the KV-2.) It's basically the KV/KV-2 but with the 107.
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Atomizer posted:I was gonna say, the SU-26, hoo boy, that's a blast from the past. Nobody plays that thing anymore! I don't think it's even in the tech tree anymore; they removed all of the low-tier arty, I believe. Even while it still was, they beat the poor thing to death with the nerf bat several times over the years. The turret traverse nerf was manageable, but then they removed the good gun from it and nerfed the remaining one so it was basically useless. In its OG form, it was basically a Leafblower, but at tier III, with a fully traverseable turret that meant you could swing across the map with almost no bloom and a base dispersion so small that you could basically choose whether to drop your shell down the commander's hatch or the engine deck of the tanks you were shooting at, and it had gold HEAT rounds that could fully pen anything you'd be matched with. My best SU-26 game was way back in closed beta where I won the game by killing an IS-7 in a face-to-face duel dancing around a rock.
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dennyk posted:I don't think it's even in the tech tree anymore; they removed all of the low-tier arty, I believe. Even while it still was, they beat the poor thing to death with the nerf bat several times over the years. The turret traverse nerf was manageable, but then they removed the good gun from it and nerfed the remaining one so it was basically useless. In its OG form, it was basically a Leafblower, but at tier III, with a fully traverseable turret that meant you could swing across the map with almost no bloom and a base dispersion so small that you could basically choose whether to drop your shell down the commander's hatch or the engine deck of the tanks you were shooting at, and it had gold HEAT rounds that could fully pen anything you'd be matched with. Don't forget too that it had one of the best stealth modifiers for a spg back then too. Assisted as well due to the aforementioned turret. Edit: ye ol og su-26 for those that never experienced it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbCMt0DkD_I This is always a running classic gag of us old timers. The "lol, guess ndp didn't think spg was important" followed later going "the su-26 is just tearing them up". And yet the casters just deadpanned that revelation. Background as well, SIMP changed their team layout for the rest of that tournament by swapping in the su-26 over the gw-panther. And they never lost another game I believe that entire time. JuffoWup fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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