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Yeah, this isn't exactly a time for "pot shots". Although I do agree we should be targeting some of the quiet people, it's hard to say which ones. I think first, we should take care of the business we should have taken care of 2 days ago. ##vote anidav We should rake in whatever data we can before can before someone gets hammered though... haha, what am I even worried about?
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Bifauxnen, you were a late entry on the day two vote. Are you keen to finish what you started? Capitalising on my day two mistake just like you and your team did to tithin's mistakes on day three? Aiming for easy targets sounds like a good plan to get that votes required to lynch threshold down, doesn't it? Where is your friend hooman? where is Small Keating? where is TOML? Why aren't you waiting for bowmore like yesterday?
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On day 1 Mills was an easy target On day 2 I hosed up and was an easy target but I lived due to new years thank god On day 3 tithin drew suspicion and became an easy target Going for easy targets has only resulted is dead towns, team silent goes on unpunished. Voting for me is the easy way out of this mess and the fact that it's happening so early in the day only means scum are trying to rush the momentum early once more.
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The timing hardly matters, people are going to trickle in whenever. I don't need to wait for bowmore to show up to vote the exact same way I was trying to before. If by some remote chance people start swarming in to actually hammer you before anyone can talk, that'll be pretty damning evidence against them anyway. I'm up for other quiet targets too, I can change my vote if needed. But I just want to make clear, we still have one real good option on the table to go with. Anidav posted:Bifauxnen, you were a late entry on the day two vote. Are you keen to finish what you started? Capitalising on my day two mistake just like you and your team did to tithin's mistakes on day three? So what were you doing yesterday? Should I have just laid back and said "well okay, go ahead and lynch me then without me bothering to say why you shouldn't"? Why did you vote for Tithin then? Oh, cause you didn't want people to vote for you either.
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Suspicions of hangoveritis confirmed, I was deathly and barely conscious yesterday. TOML is supposed to be back around mid-afternoon Melbourne time. Time to make a fist of it before we're all murdered in our beds. ##vote anidav
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I won't vote til later. I was, however, entirely prepared to vote out Anidav yesterday so yeah. I am incredibly scared that the scum will soon have enough votes on their own to start voting people out 
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This is hosed. I'm most suss on Anidav (always have been due to his changing excuses d2) and Small Keating (due to the worst ever role claim) right now. We have time, however, and I'd like to hear bowmore and Freudian slips opinion. TOML too.
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Predominately silent people are getting off scot-free and the only people who are dying are those who are actually posting in this thread. Team Silent is killing the conversation without saying a word and the strange mistake Small Keating made before is suspicious, as if trying to ride the coattails of Splode's mistake. Now that Splode is dead and Small Keating hasn't come back with any new information, I am confident that near-silent people like Small Keating are involved. ##vote Small Keating
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Well, if Small Keating just buggers off before leaving the big effortpost he must be working on while getting all caught up, that would definitely be good enough reason for me to vote for him instead.
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Bifauxnen is scum. scum scum scum scum scum socialist corrupting us maggot. anidav is a patsy, almost certainly innocent. she lead the charge against tithin and has been pushing us to make votes hurriedly and without data since day one. she covers for silent players with white noise. anyone who has raised any kind of objection against her has been put down like a dog. ##vote Bifauxnen
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has there ever been a mafia game where the scum just don't say anything and the town implodes all by itself? or that there are no scum? what if that's what we're looking at? it's auspol as gently caress if it's just a murdertrain of splits
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going to go back over tithins analysis and see who he was getting too close for the mafia to let him live.
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thatbastardken posted:she lead the charge against tithin and has been pushing us to make votes hurriedly and without data since day one. Uh no, beet lead the charge against tithin. I never asked him to come on the attack to defend me any more than I asked bowmore to come defend me. He had a bad case, that's why beet and bowmore both came out swinging since it seemed like he was just derailing everything. If he'd had a more convincing case, maybe someone else besides you would have jumped on. I think this is more over-reaching to frame me, like you were doing yesterday with your trying to call me out over an obvious Ludlam joke, which somehow relied on me having the exact same role as Mills. ##unvote ##vote thatbastardken I think you and Anidav are both scum, you're probably the more dangerous one, though. You've been checking in but keeping quiet and not acting much to help while Anidav hogs all the attention. Weren't you going to get in on the Tithin vote too just to get someone lynched at all last night? That never came through, did it? Or did you just not want to get your name involved cause you knew for sure he was town... what with him not being on your scumteam.
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is anidav scum? I'll let you decide... i'll take my certainty of it to the grave if i have to. i'm not sure about bif, i think they might just be wanting to lynch people (which is fair because we gave the scum a two day lead), but anidav is absolutely obvious. keating is up there, too, due to the roleclaim and might be looking to get on my early bandwagon. much like bifauxnen, actually. there is a lot of focus on anidav. if we kill him, then we get a lot of information to think about. but :tenbux: gets you that he's scum and, if we get anidav, we get the rest of them.
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beet and Bifauxnen were both top of tithins scum list when you forced through that lynch, dragging him into it doesn't clear your name. nice OMGUS play against me here though, bif.. very scummy. tithin's case got him killed for being too close to the truth
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Jan 2, 2015 02:21
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tithin posted:There's nothing to answer. this tithin post was in response to beet. I'm more sure about bif that I am bout beet though.
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Jan 2, 2015 02:24
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unfortunately I burned the one shot cop ability I had on mills the night he was killed so I can't do anything more to confirm my analysis. in case anyone's wondering he read as town, so he wasn't some kind of reverse death bullshit.
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Yeah, as I always say I want to make sure lynches actually happen, so I can change back to anidav if you're not budging. I now think both of them are scum. I think people need to take a solid look at TBK, though. He wasn't just spaced out and hungover and completely absent like others were. He seems to have been very purposely holding back. D1: He checked in and purposely said he wasn't voting. This isn't bad in itself, since Tithin also chose that purposely. But it shows he was here and paying attention. What happened then on D2? thatbastardken posted:yeah never assume malice when incompetence is an adequate explanation. thatbastardken posted:If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. thatbastardken posted:I think that one shot powers might be the order of the day here, actually. It would fit with the whole greens thing - limited funding, conservation, that sort of thing. On D2 he still checked in and was weighing in on the mistakes already made, and on the nature of what roles we may have. But did he stick around to get anybody lynched? No. Did he explain why or say why he wasn't voting again? No. Did he even say he was part of the hangover crowd? No. What happened there? He showed up again on D3 though, posting a lot to start getting all serious and back up Tithin's case, without ever explaining why he thought Anidav's case was shut. thatbastardken posted:you said that you wanted ludlam (bowmore) to make the kill on you (not hooman, sorry, bad syntax). if you have some kind of vengeful power that would kill a confirmed townie Over-reaching and making up something that doesn't even make sense to try and "prove" I'm gunning for bowmore thatbastardken posted:I don't want to vote for tithin, that said I will if we get close enough because we need to get some kind of result. Claims he's willing to join the tithin bandwagon just to get a lynch, so what was so bad about wanting to get an Anidav lynch? But guess what, he never showed up for that either. Once again, he bails and comes back to wreak havoc the following morning.
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Seeing as Tithin has seemed fairly on the money the whole time, at the moment I'm inclined to agree with Ken.
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this is all painful to read. lynch anidav, and lynch me tomorrow if he ends up town (somehow). and then i'll hopefully get knifed tonight so i don't need to herd all these cats again
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Also bif I think we can assume that most people were hungover yesterday, even if they didn't explicitly say so.
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thatbastardken posted:nice OMGUS play against me here though, bif.. very scummy. It's not just cause you voted for me, it's that your derail to me led us away from the Anidav case. thatbastardken posted:anidav is a patsy, almost certainly innocent. This was your only case given for his innocence. I also think he's a patsy, but a scum patsy. He's been taking all their heat until now. Mithranderp posted:Also bif I think we can assume that most people were hungover yesterday, even if they didn't explicitly say so. So TBK got more hungover at 9 pm than he already was when he made all those posts earlier in the day?
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tithin posted:I'm pretty confident now on bif being scummy. getting a little scared, Bif? I've got you coming and going now - lynch or night kill me and my roleclaim turning out out be true gets you whacked the next day. Even your scum buddies won't be able to protect you without giving themselves away.
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Bifauxnen posted:So TBK got more hungover at 9 pm than he already was when he made all those posts earlier in the day? it turned out not to be necessary for me to vote for tithin, the hammer came down anyway just like you wanted. why is it a bad thing that I didn't vote to lynch a townie I was clearly unhappy about lynching? and who was my only ally in suspecting you of scummery?
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Milky Moor posted:this is all painful to read. lynch anidav, and lynch me tomorrow if he ends up town (somehow). or lynch bifauxnen and lynch you the next day when she turns out scum.
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thatbastardken posted:or lynch bifauxnen and lynch you the next day when she turns out scum. i am willing to entertain the idea that bifauxnen is scum based on the arguments i've seen, but i'm far, far more sure that anidav is. or are we forgetting that in the previous mafia games i've been in i've been really, really good at sniffing out the scum players? trust me when i say that all of my instincts are saying if we lynch anidav we'll get a definite scum kill, which we can then afford to waste a probable one on bifauxnen the next day.
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Yes I think bif is covering for team silent and Small Keating is apart of it. The question is simply what order they get lynched in. My instincts say bif is just vanilla scum so she's a low-risk talker for team silent since if she dies, no power roles are lost. If Small Keating is a scum with a power role then taking him or someone else suspiciously silent might net town a much needed power role kill.
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if you lynch anidav, i'll lynch bifauxnen the next day. i don't know how else to make it so absolutely crystal clear what my intuition is telling me about anidav. notice how he hasn't roleclaimed. what is he? a vanilla townie? a vanilla townie who is shifty, changes his reasons and absolutely without a doubt relying on his 'woe is me, this is my first game, i'm new' schtick to see him through and it's loving WORKING
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instincts from previous games mean jack and poo poo when dealing with newbies - they do dumb poo poo that triggers everyone's scum sense because they are new.
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i'm willing to go to the bat for my estimation, TBK, are you? help me out here, man, we can't afford another wasted day. or, worse, a day where we get it wrong. i'm not wrong about anidav. we need breathing room.
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thatbastardken posted:it turned out not to be necessary for me to vote for tithin, the hammer came down anyway just like you wanted. It's a bad thing because we wouldn't have actually had any lynch at all if we hadn't had the extended deadline to save us when the last vote was running late. Which no one else seemed to even be paying attention to but me. It could have been 3 days with no day action or results. And it's just more evidence of you checking in only juuuust enough to look like you're not one of the silent ones not contributing. Anyway, I'll just leave my vote on you until we get enough talk done later in the day. Consider me ready and willing to swing to either Anidav or Small Keating as needed.
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thatbastardken posted:instincts from previous games mean jack and poo poo when dealing with newbies - they do dumb poo poo that triggers everyone's scum sense because they are new. wrong. their tells are far more obvious but wholly different. he's hypothesizing far too much for a player who is learning from this thread. wonder how that's happening, and who he's talking to.
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I am 100% on bif being scum, and dangerous scum at that. no-one trusts anidav, if he is scum he's toothless outside of the night. help me get bif and I'll help you chase anidav tomorrow.
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Milky Moor posted:wrong. their tells are far more obvious but wholly different. he's hypothesizing far too much for a player who is learning from this thread. wonder how that's happening, and who he's talking to. probably reading the wiki.
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I'm reading the wiki, that naturally leads to hypothesizing because there's an abundance of information at my feet. Information that I ask for clarification on in this thread. tithin explained masons to me and a few other things which was very nice of him. Now he's dead because he knows the game
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thatbastardken posted:I am 100% on bif being scum, and dangerous scum at that. no-one trusts anidav, if he is scum he's toothless outside of the night. help me get bif and I'll help you chase anidav tomorrow. man, i want to. but i'm so certain on anidav and i can't shake that bif plays how i play - lynch early, lynch often. at this time, i'd rather take my chances on someone who i wholeheartedly believe in scum as opposed to someone who we might get wrong. i'm keeping my vote where it is. and i'm hoping that we get a scum kill today - anidav or otherwise. i don't agree that he's toothless outside of the night. he can still swing lynches and hammer people and generally act as an obvious, distracting smokescreen.
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