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Mind_Taker posted:Seems like a really good trade for the Penguins. Probably will slot in as a winger for Malkin or Crosby and he is on a cap-friendly deal for a guy who is likely to put up 50+ points (over a full season). Klink is a big (but not especially physical) guy who is decent at puck possession. Good depth guy to have. I'm pretty damned excited about this. Perron is a dude who has the talent to create his own offense which is something the Pens badly need on wing. He's also signed through next year on an affordable contract. I know JR was pretty awful by the end with Carolina but he's done mostly nothing but good things for the Pens so far. The Fleury move is the only questionable thing he's done so far and if Fleury keeps playing like he has (unlikely, but I hope!) then that deal will work out okay too.
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Loqieu posted:I wouldn't be too worried at least. They're sort of in the same boat as Dallas in that they're waiting for some internal talent to develop before making a big push. Need to keep in mind their goaltending situation has been pretty bizarre the last year too. I really dont get how so many people are fine with he Islanders making such a big jump but cant accept that the Jets have also improved significantly. The Jets are a top 10 possession team along with the Wild, even with half their roster injured. They are just as good as Minnesota, and Id say just a small step above Dallas right now. All 3 teams are suffering from unreliable goaltending though. Wild had that solved with Harding and the Jets have Hutchinson, but neither can probably do full time starter roles right now so theyre stuck platooning them with the reanimated corpse of Backstrom and Pavelec respectively. Dallas is kinda screwed in this area unless they want to go shopping around the league again.
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Pancakes by Mail posted:Pens taking Win Now mode to a higher level with their crazy amount of depth injuries seems like it could backfire. This isn't a win now trade though given that Perron is signed through next season as well.
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I don't see what people see in Dallas, they aren't good enough to get back in the playoff picture. One line teams with atrocious defended just aren't going to be playoff teams in the West.
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Jan 2, 2015 19:54
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Misanthrope posted:William DePaoli @TIOPS_DePaoli He's not particularly credible. He's a Pittsburgh Eklund. Has a pay site where he claims to have an inside scoop. I don't use his dumb site so maybe there is some credibility there but I've never heard or read anywhere him breaking a deal.
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A Typical Goon posted:I don't see what people see in Dallas, they aren't good enough to get back in the playoff picture. One line teams with atrocious defended just aren't going to be playoff teams in the West. this is what i see when i look at dallas http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/TBL/2008.html
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Trevor Bird posted:this is what i see when i look at dallas lol at Jussi Jokinen having 14 points and a -16 in 20 games. He really wanted out of Tampa badly didn't he?
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Aphrodite posted:They might have been better off getting rid of Sutter.
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Jan 2, 2015 20:30
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achillesforever6 posted:Eh Sutter has been pretty good this season Agreed he seems to have taken a nice step forward this year and has been a nice contributor on offense. I don't think he's a 2C but a very good 3C especially if they keep Bennett on the 3rd (and he isn't broken).
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Jan 2, 2015 20:50
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Ginette Reno posted:This isn't a win now trade though given that Perron is signed through next season as well. It might not be all-aboard Win Now Or Die, but I'd say trading a first rounder for an active player does help the present at the cost of the future. Not that it's a bad trade, just indicative.
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Jan 2, 2015 20:51
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Misanthrope posted:William DePaoli @TIOPS_DePaoli i'd rather have a 1st than sutter
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A Typical Goon posted:I don't see what people see in Dallas, they aren't good enough to get back in the playoff picture. One line teams with atrocious defended just aren't going to be playoff teams in the West. The goaltending is streaky not abysmal (I pray) and Seguin's scored in bunches, not one a night. 2nd line scoring has been iffy, but they're getting a decent amount of depth production. Klingberg's been good enough to give them 3 NHLers worth of talent in their six. Not that I don't agree with you as tight as the west is. But that's the reason for hope. HFBoards answer: Ritchie will save us.
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a false posted:i'd rather have a 1st than sutter A late 1st rounder with the Oilers scouts is like a mid-2nd
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Pancakes by Mail posted:It might not be all-aboard Win Now Or Die, but I'd say trading a first rounder for an active player does help the present at the cost of the future. If everything worked out with that first round pick for the Pens that pick would end up as good as Perron already is, and he's 26. This move hardly hurts the Pens' future. a false posted:i'd rather have a 1st than sutter Probably. Sutter is pretty meh outside of the pk and his slight talent at scoring goals. e: In related Pens news Malkin and Adams apparently got into a tussle in practice and Malkin high sticked Adams in the face Bill Guerin style. 
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Pancakes by Mail posted:It might not be all-aboard Win Now Or Die, but I'd say trading a first rounder for an active player does help the present at the cost of the future. The only future the Penguins need to worry about right now is the one where people say yo how did you dipshits have all those superstars and only win the Cup once
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fits posted:Hall-RNH-Eberle I dunno man, Colorado has a habit of making GBS threads the bed against bad teams, I mean last year Edmonton loving wrecked us that one time
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Jan 2, 2015 21:29
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Man, the Oilers blatant tank job sure is making it so no one feels bad about the NHL rigging the lotto so Arizona gets a franchise saving player.
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Sciserf posted:Man, the Oilers blatant tank job sure is making it so no one feels bad about the NHL rigging the lotto so Arizona gets a franchise saving player. You mean Seattle. Because I doubt Arizona will be around by the time Eichel hits the NHL. 
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Furnaceface posted:You mean Seattle. Because I doubt Arizona will be around by the time Eichel hits the NHL. Their arena out clause isn't usable until 2017, I think. Maybe Glendale becomes a better draw in that time, who knows.
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 5 times...
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So can we dust off those Eberle to the Habs rumors or shoukd we wait until the deadline?
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"We are here to win the Cup. It starts with me. We will not rest until we bring a Cup home to Arizona." - Andrew Barroway
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hifi posted:"We are here to win the Cup. It starts with me. We will not rest until we bring a Cup home to Arizona." - Andrew Barroway Did he specify Stanley Cup? Because maybe he meant a different kind of cup, like a Dixie cup.
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hifi posted:"We are here to win the Cup. It starts with me. We will not rest until we bring a Cup home to Arizona." - Andrew Barroway Said at his new Tucson estate on his Day With the Cup c/o the new Kansas City Scouts.
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tbh, I think Perron had more value to Edmonton on the team than a late 1st that they will gently caress up. He's a good top six player on a relatively cheap deal ($3.8 per this year and next) and he's still only 26. At the very least, they should have gotten more than a late first and a throw away player.
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THE MACHO MAN posted:tbh, I think Perron had more value to Edmonton on the team than a late 1st that they will gently caress up. He's a good top six player on a relatively cheap deal ($3.8 per this year and next) and he's still only 26. I'm surprised they didn't ask for one of the Pen's many d prospects. Pens wouldn't have given up Pouliot but you would think the Oilers would have been able to pry away Dumoulin or Harrington. But I suppose maybe if they do that they get a second instead of a first, and the Oilers do have a decent amount of good d prospects iirc.
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Ginette Reno posted:I'm surprised they didn't ask for one of the Pen's many d prospects. Pens wouldn't have given up Pouliot but you would think the Oilers would have been able to pry away Dumoulin or Harrington. But I suppose maybe if they do that they get a second instead of a first, and the Oilers do have a decent amount of good d prospects iirc. All of whom the Oilers are well on their way to screwing up.
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THE MACHO MAN posted:tbh, I think Perron had more value to Edmonton on the team than a late 1st that they will gently caress up. Maybe as a talent, but you can't let team cancers who question the oiler way like perron continue to infect the locker room
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Menamino posted:Maybe as a talent, but you can't let team cancers who question the oiler way like perron continue to infect the locker room Trying to infect the locker room with winning is NOT the Oiler way.
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THE MACHO MAN posted:tbh, I think Perron had more value to Edmonton on the team than a late 1st that they will gently caress up. He's a good top six player on a relatively cheap deal ($3.8 per this year and next) and he's still only 26. oilers traded away penner years ago for a first and like colton teubert. the first turned into klefbom who is just now starting to break into the nhl, teubert was so bad hes playing in the DEL now at 24 years old this is pretty much the same thing
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grack posted:All of whom the Oilers are well on their way to screwing up. I don't think even the Oilers can gently caress up Darnell Nurse, he's gonna own
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fits posted:oilers traded away penner years ago for a first and like colton teubert. the first turned into klefbom who is just now starting to break into the nhl, teubert was so bad hes playing in the DEL now at 24 years old To be fair, in that Penner trade they also got a conditional 3rd that turned into a Russian winger that's scored 5 points in 55 KHL games.
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The Dirty Burger posted:I don't think even the Oilers can gently caress up Darnell Nurse, he's gonna own Quoting this for 3-4 years from now.
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dominator posted:The Blackhawks have recalled Teuvo Teravainen. About loving time
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dominator posted:The Blackhawks have recalled Teuvo Teravainen. Guess Versteeg's hand is dead then. He was actually pretty good this year on that line with Kane and Richards.  So its probably safe to assume Sharp goes back to 2nd line, but Im kinda curious how Q will organize that bottom 6.
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dominator posted:The Blackhawks have recalled Teuvo Teravainen. Aww, my dad lives near Rockford and was all excited about having Teuvo playing out there.
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