Space Bat posted:I don't understand your reasoning? Well, for one thing, quote:> You passed a long while with Rise. quote:Kujikawa Rise EDIT: quote:Edit: Oh, I see. You're one of those kind of people.
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Effectronica posted:Well, for one thing, What kind of people exactly?
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Jan 6, 2015 03:06
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Space Bat posted:What kind of people exactly? Mmm... How can I say this? Uh, pedantic.
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Effectronica posted:Mmm... How can I say this? Uh, pedantic. What's pedantic about what I said? Is it because the female protagonist in non-canon?
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Space Bat posted:What's pedantic about what I said? Is it because the female protagonist in non-canon? 
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Jan 6, 2015 03:17
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I was hoping that boys wouldnt exist in this show but yuri beggars cant be choosers i guess.
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Jan 6, 2015 03:22
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Well, that was definitely, uh, an Ikuhara show.  The Japanese -> German -> English subs are just about watch able if you can't be bothered waiting for Funimation to get its act together.
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Jan 6, 2015 03:27
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I'm waiting till Wednesday.
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Jan 6, 2015 03:45
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beaner69 posted:I was hoping that boys wouldnt exist in this show but yuri beggars cant be choosers i guess. same
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Jan 6, 2015 03:47
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coathat posted:I'm waiting till Wednesday. Me too, but i'm grumpy about it.
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Jan 6, 2015 03:48
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Holy gently caress that was Ikuhara as hell. Also the young virgin girl mcguffin seems to have died by bear already, and I am confused.
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Jan 6, 2015 04:35
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At the moment I'm betting that the people getting 'eaten' aren't actually dead but who the hell knows. Probably nothing is actually real anyway.
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Jan 6, 2015 04:55
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beaner69 posted:I was hoping that boys wouldnt exist in this show but yuri beggars cant be choosers i guess. Those aren't boys, they are the figurative manifestation of patriarchy.
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Jan 6, 2015 04:59
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its amazing how you got called out so badly that you don't even have a proper response to his brutal logic bomb he dropped on your retarded rear end
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Jan 6, 2015 05:24
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I like that one BGM that goes "KUMA SHOCK"
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Jan 6, 2015 05:51
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Captain Failcon posted:its amazing how you got called out so badly that you don't even have a proper response to his brutal logic bomb he dropped on your retarded rear end Excellent insight, Captain.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:04
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Having only seen this and like the first 4 pages of the KlK thread I have a question: Is every bad anime thread here just sad nerds ineffectively trying to burn one another? Because Captain Failcon you're trying way too hard in a thread about lesbian murder bears.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:06
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You know, ignoring the obvious thing to argue about for a second, this was kind of a dull first episode. It feels like a parody of Ikuhara, with all the flashing lights and roses and lesbians but nothing to ground it. The characters have very little personality and motivations that are either simple or too abstract to make sense of / relate to yet, and the visuals border on self-plagiarism. It just doesn't feel like there's anything new here, and it doesn't even live up to the energy and charm of the things it's imitating. Granted one episode isn't a lot to judge by, but I might just wait till the end of the season and wait to see what other people think.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Having only seen this and like the first 4 pages of the KlK thread I have a question: Is every bad anime thread here just sad nerds ineffectively trying to burn one another? Because Captain Failcon you're trying way too hard in a thread about lesbian murder bears. I just pretend it's all banter and everyone here actually loves each other very much, and suddenly the thread seems like fun and games. @ Catfish: Utena and Penguindrum at least started out grounded somewhat in reality. Yurikuma is starting out with the abstract in full swing, and the first episode just leaves me grasping for something to comprehend. Space Flower fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Jan 6, 2015 06:10
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:You know, ignoring the obvious thing to argue about for a second, this was kind of a dull first episode. It feels like a parody of Ikuhara, with all the flashing lights and roses and lesbians but nothing to ground it. The characters have very little personality and motivations that are either simple or too abstract to make sense of / relate to yet, and the visuals border on self-plagiarism. It just doesn't feel like there's anything new here, and it doesn't even live up to the personality of the things its imitating.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:11
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I just don't know why it's ok and good to get horny to this but KLK is problematic.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:11
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I just don't know why it's ok and good to get horny to this but KLK is problematic. Is that an issue worth the discussion in the first place? Whether or not someone is attracted to anime teenagers with nipple-less breasts, I hardly think the fanservice angle is even relevant for this show. If we wrote off every anime that had pin-up posters featured in Megami, Nyantype, etc., we'd be out of shows to watch.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:18
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Endorph posted:i feel like utena was the one good thing ikuhara was ever going to do and now he's just a man with nothing but obvious symbolism and a weird view of lesbianism to his name Penguin drum and Sailor Moon both great actually.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:You know, ignoring the obvious thing to argue about for a second, this was kind of a dull first episode. It feels like a parody of Ikuhara, with all the flashing lights and roses and lesbians but nothing to ground it. The characters have very little personality and motivations that are either simple or too abstract to make sense of / relate to yet, and the visuals border on self-plagiarism. It just doesn't feel like there's anything new here, and it doesn't even live up to the energy and charm of the things it's imitating. I liked the episode on the whole but, yeah it kind of lacks the energy of the first episode of Utena or Penguindrum. Even the courtroom scene which is probably going to be the big repeated sequence seemed subdued. Endorph posted:i feel like utena was the one good thing ikuhara was ever going to do and now he's just a man with nothing but obvious symbolism and a weird view of lesbianism to his name Penguindrum was good as well. Ibram Gaunt posted:I just don't know why it's ok and good to get horny to this but KLK is problematic. So far much less rape, other than that 
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Space Flower posted:Is that an issue worth the discussion in the first place? Whether or not someone is attracted to anime teenagers with nipple-less breasts, I hardly think the fanservice angle is even relevant for this show. If we wrote off every anime that had pin-up posters featured in Megami, Nyantype, etc., we'd be out of shows to watch. There's an interesting discussion about how feminized sexuality like stock yuri series is considered far less shameful than masculinized sexuality (like KLK), but this isn't the thread, or, frankly, the forum to do it in.
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coathat posted:Penguin drum and Sailor Moon both great actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5g_gs6nnyo
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Space Flower posted:I hardly think the fanservice angle is even relevant for this show. It's a fanservice show.
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Sakurazuka posted:So far much less rape, other than that ask yourself honestly
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Effectronica posted:but this isn't the thread, or, frankly, the forum to do it in. But this is the anime forum, so it's perfectly fine.
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Endorph posted:what do you think the bear mauling is a metaphor for I said less.
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Endorph posted:what do you think the bear mauling is a metaphor for Israel's treatment of Palestinians. Next! Come on Endorph stop soft balling these in, man.
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DrPaper posted:But this is the anime forum, so it's perfectly fine. Okay, you first.
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Endorph posted:what do you think the bear mauling is a metaphor for Are they not literally mauling people in reference to Sankebetsu? I figured the eating and 'eating' were two different things. Also:  ? ? ?
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Effectronica posted:Okay, you first. Outside of otaku, stock yuri is considered MORE shameful, because not only is it blatantly dehumanizing an entire sexuality of people for fetishization, people use it as a shield to call anyone who thinks your show sexualizing underage girls is gross a "bigot", and your ability to j/o over it "progressive". And that's on top of the same issues that it would share with masculine fanservice. Frankly I wouldn't care at all if you wanted to watch and discuss this show if you were willing to admit you're a loving degenerate instead of pretending you're better than other weird anime people, such as myself.
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I got a good feeling about this thread. Probably going to be more entertaining than the actual show.
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DrPaper posted:Outside of otaku, stock yuri is considered MORE shameful, because not only is it blatantly dehumanizing an entire sexuality of people for fetishization, people use it as a shield to call anyone who thinks your show sexualizing underage girls is gross a "bigot", and your ability to j/o over it "progressive". And that's on top of the same issues that it would share with masculine fanservice. Okay, so what I'm getting from this is that you're a pedophile, but at least you're not one of those otaku. Interesting. I also wasn't referring to male-targeted fanservice, either.
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DrPaper posted:Outside of otaku, stock yuri is considered MORE shameful, because not only is it blatantly dehumanizing an entire sexuality of people for fetishization, people use it as a shield to call anyone who thinks your show sexualizing underage girls is gross a "bigot", and your ability to j/o over it "progressive". And that's on top of the same issues that it would share with masculine fanservice. Most yuri is made and read by women. I guess lesbians dehumanize themselves.
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coathat posted:Most yuri is made and read by women. I guess lesbians dehumanize themselves. Makes you think, don't it?
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anyway my problem with penguindrum is that it sucks or to be more accurate: utena used its metaphors and symbolism and motifs and whatever other fancy words you wanna add in there to advance the story and characters. you thought about a bit of symbolism and figured out a thing. that's how symbolism is supposed to work. they were obvious enough to be easily figured out but well-used enough to be worthy of thought. penguindrum used its metaphors and symbolism to advance the metaphors and symbolism. there's no meat, no neat revelations hidden beneath the surface, just more impenetrable layers of bullshit. it's got half the actual substance of utena and ten times the nonsense cloaking it. im not one of those people who thinks utena is the deepest anime ever made, but that's exactly my point - it wasn't trying to be. it was using those things, but it was using them for a reason, not because ikuhara was masturbating furiously over twin peaks reruns and sailor moon yuri doujins.
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