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david carmichael posted:he was getting bullied in the clinch the entire fight. when he couldn't push jones up against the cage at all you could see him just sorta give up. add to that the fact that he got hit in the flabby body approximately 100 times and he just had nothing left I don't think it is accurate to say that he was bullied in the clinch the entire fight. His best work in the first three rounds was in the clinch with dirty boxing away from the cage. The clinch only became his enemy when Jones could use his weight and leverage against he cage, which was mostly the story in the championship rounds.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:Congratulations once again to God's humble warrior, Jon Jones. Were there any fights worth catching? I liked the Ceronne fight but Jury stifled his style pretty effectively. The most interesting thing was that it went to the ground in rd1 and Ceronne came close to finishing submissions several times, it really demoralized Jury. And then at the end Ceronne was pissed that he didn't get the sub or KO so he just started kicking the poo poo out of Jury out of spite
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:09 |
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Jon Jones after the press conference: "[Cormier] thinks he's a big man? I treated him like a little man. That's the breaks boy, yeah, that's the breaks little man. Break it down."
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:18 |
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1st AD posted:Hunt could beat Jones. I think JDS, Cain, and Werdum definitely would. lol
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:21 |
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I feel like Cormier landed a couple good leg kicks early. I feel like the fighter to beat Jon Jones needs to have great leg kicks and the ability to get up from the bottom if he gets take down from them. Everyone tries to take it to Jones early and then ends up getting attritioned down to nothing. Jones tends to gas in the later rounds (though his opponents have historically gassed worse), and I think someone who came in with a game plan of just destroying his mobility with leg kicks and body shots early without really engaging too much otherwise could take it to him in the later rounds when he slows down and is feeling all the leg damage. The dude's legs are super skinny, it couldn't take that many kicks to break him down. Basically, someone needs to put Jose Aldo in the Willy Wonks taffy puller.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:26 |
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mewse posted:I liked the Ceronne fight but Jury stifled his style pretty effectively. The most interesting thing was that it went to the ground in rd1 and Ceronne came close to finishing submissions several times, it really demoralized Jury. Is it really "stifl[ing] his style pretty effectively" when you lose 30-27, are in danger of being finished multiple times and end the fight getting your rear end literally kicked?
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:32 |
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guys cain can make 205 right
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:34 |
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At this point Cain Velasquez fighting anyone, much less Jones, is a what-if fantasy
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:34 |
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on one hand on the other
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:37 |
Jones vs rumble is the last interesting lhw fight for him
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:37 |
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How soon we forget about Lusty Gusty.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:40 |
The only interesting prospect in LHW is jan blachowitz and he probably cant defrnd takedowns
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-Atom- posted:How soon we forget about Lusty Gusty. He has to get passed rumble first
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fatherdog posted:Is it really "stifl[ing] his style pretty effectively" when you lose 30-27, are in danger of being finished multiple times and end the fight getting your rear end literally kicked? I guess I mean he stifled Ceronne's desire to get another POTN bonus
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:45 |
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Cerrone didnt look good but at this stage in his career I dont think hes going to risk it all unless he has to. Jury couldnt do anything to him so he took the easy W. NExt time someone Barbozas him he'll probably go back to being the greatest show on earth or whatever
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:47 |
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Emotional investment in spoarts is horrible.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:47 |
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I think rumble is gonna beat Gustafson
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:48 |
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Skip My Posts posted:I think rumble is gonna beat Gustafson if he can definitively beat Gus , then hes got a good shot to do it to jones
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:49 |
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Bundt Cake posted:Cerrone didnt look good but at this stage in his career I dont think hes going to risk it all unless he has to.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:52 |
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Cerrone looked good at 30-27d an undefeated fighter wtf is everyone talking about
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 19:59 |
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Dangersim posted:Cerrone looked good at 30-27d an undefeated fighter wtf is everyone talking about He looked fine but cmon he did nothing in the second
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:00 |
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:That wasnt a very good PPV seems hard to believe that a card stacked with louis gaudinot, THE josh burkman vs hector lombard (who has had 3 all time terrible ufc matches in an era of absolutely terrible matches), brad tavares, and no discernible co main event would be bad. the ufc is BACK in 2015
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:02 |
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That omoplata grab was pretty slick
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:02 |
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is Rumble really that good? all I've seen are his fights against Davis and Little Nog and his wife but everyone seems to hype him up. either way i hope he loses because I want to see Gus gently caress up Jones.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:03 |
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Charles Gnarwin posted:I don't think it is accurate to say that he was bullied in the clinch the entire fight. His best work in the first three rounds was in the clinch with dirty boxing away from the cage. The clinch only became his enemy when Jones could use his weight and leverage against he cage, which was mostly the story in the championship rounds. he landed some good short uppercuts and hooks, but ate one million knees and elbows and was unable to back up jones and got backed up and outmuscled constantly from the second round on
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idontcare posted:is Rumble really that good? all I've seen are his fights against Davis and Little Nog and his wife but everyone seems to hype him up. either way i hope he loses because I want to see Gus gently caress up Jones. rumble is big and strong, and he absolutely handled davis and nog. his fight against arlovski doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence for his chances against jones however
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:07 |
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I still can't get over how tiny Cormier looked next to Jones in the cage. It looked like a middleweight fighting a heavyweight. I think we are stuck with Jones as the champ for a long time.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:07 |
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david carmichael posted:rumble is big and strong, and he absolutely handled davis and nog. his fight against arlovski doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence for his chances against jones however Yeah I think Rumble has an outside chance due to his sheer power, but if he can't crack Jones chin he will likely get outclassed in every way.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:08 |
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rumble probably won't beat gus and wouldn't beat jones.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:09 |
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Mark Hunt would beat all of them.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:09 |
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Seeing Chuck's picture made me thing about howChuck v Jones wouldve been a great fight. Luckily, Jones v Junior Dos Santos would be pretty much the exact same fight and Jones should move up and fight him
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:15 |
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Jack Slack's breakdown is up if it hasn't been posted yet http://fightland.vice.com/blog/ufc-182-jones-retains-the-crown-but-the-future-creeps-close
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:16 |
I find Jones's style and tactics effective but annoying and not very fun to watch.
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Google Butt posted:I find Jones's style while effective is annoying and not very fun to watch. He's fun to watch, he's just a tremendous shitheel. I have a bad feeling he's going to be champion for like the next decade
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:19 |
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The new hope to beat Jon Jones is officially... *lottery balls dislodge from a machine marked Sherdog Top Ten Rankings* Ovince St. Preux
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:20 |
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I'm just glad he's branching out his cheating game to include Aldo-esque fence grabs as well as eye pokes.
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:25 |
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Aurain posted:I'm just glad he's branching out his cheating game to include Aldo-esque fence grabs as well as eye pokes. I was expecting some Three Stooges poo poo from last night's fight, only one eye poke and fence grab is the most honorable he's ever been Herb Dean was on his rear end the entire rest of the fight after that lmao
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:27 |
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Triticum Guzzler posted:The new hope to beat Jon Jones is officially... *lottery balls dislodge from a machine marked Sherdog Top Ten Rankings* Ovince St. Preux "If you were to design a fighter to beat Jon Jones, Mike, that guy is Ovince St. Preux."
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:28 |
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Herb Dean ate one of Cormier's punches at the end better than some of the guys Cormier's fought. I want to see a ref fight with him vs. Big John McCarthy, it would've been more entertaining than half of the fights last night Also does anyone have a gif of Donald Cerrone's merciless literal rear end kicking at the end of that fight?
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# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:36 |
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Cuckoo posted:Herb Dean ate one of Cormier's punches at the end better than some of the guys Cormier's fought. I want to see a ref fight with him vs. Big John McCarthy, it would've been more entertaining than half of the fights last night Herb Dean was a fighter. He wasn't very good.
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