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Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:



THANKS DK YOU FUCKS



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Welcome to the 4th edition of the Pro Dota Thread (Previous threads 1 2 3) There are professional Defense of the Ancients Two events taking place every day all over the world, and this is the place for live reactions and commentary. Posting here is more relaxed than in the main Dota 2 thread, and more in line with SAS GDT or TVIV style posting.

The main Dota 2 thread is located here.



Since this is the next biggest tourney coming up, the OP will reflect on it likely up until TI5 rolls around. This is the Dota 2 Asia Championship, starting on January 5th with the American Qualifiers, and when all is said and done 16 teams total will be competing for the top prize in the event, which is currently at $557,788 but is a number that will surely be climbing due to the addition of Compendium sales which I will go over later. Games will be streamed both on Twitch.tv and in-client, links will be posted when available.

http://dac.dota2.com.cn/announcement/index_eng.htm

Schedule:

January 5th-6th: American Qualifiers

January 8th-11th: European Qualifiers

January 10th-15th: Asian Qualifiers

January 28th: Wild Card Qualifiers

MEET THE TEAMS

The Invites
Invictus Gaming

quote:

iG sports the 2nd most tournament winnings since TI3. Highlights include 1st place at ESL Frankfurt, 1st place in the 2014 WPC ACE, 2nd place in the 2013 WPC ACE, and 1st in the Redbull ECL 2014.
Current Members:
Ferrari_430 Feichi Luo
June Shiyang Lin
Ch Chen Li
Xi Yinqi Luo
ChuaNHock Chuan Wong

LGD Gaming

quote:

LGD began as For The Dream, which won SMM 2009, later that year FTD was sponsored by LGD. The team has been a powerhouse of the Chinese scene ever since. The team was struck hard during the great Chinese reshuffle of 2011, when the team lost 4 of its players to Invictus Gaming. Despite the efforts of ZSMJ to rebuild, the team was unable to regain its former strength leading to the iconic carry to retire. He was replaced by Sylar, a move which eventually allowed them to regain their position as one of the leading teams in China
Current Members:
Yao Zhengzheng Yao
Sylar Jiajun Liu
Faith Hongda Zeng
MMY Zengrong Lei
Injuly Xiaodong Yang

Newbee :siren:Winners of TI4:siren:

quote:

Newbee earned a direct invite to TI4 but struggled initially, finishing 7-8 in the second playoff phase before defeating LGD Gaming and Mousesports in tiebreakers for 9th place. However, they did not lose another series the rest of the way, first defeating Titan, Natus Vincere and Invictus Gaming to progress to the top 8 main event in the winners' side. At the main event, they defeated Vici Gaming and then Evil Geniuses to set up an all-Chinese grand final against Vici Gaming - which was also a matchup of two teams who enjoy forming deathballs. VG took the first game, but Newbee came back to take the next three and the $5 million first prize, including a 19-3 blitzing in the decisive Game 4 in just over 15 minutes.[/b]
Current Members:
Hao Zhihao Chen
Mu Pan Zhang
Banana Jiao Wang
Sansheng Zhaohui Wang
Rabbit Zhang Wang

Vici Gaming

quote:

Vici Gaming enjoyed some mild success at the start of its formation as a team but ultimately fell short in many tournaments. Despite placing at many events Vici would not achieve another title in the TI3 to TI4 season, however at TI4 they earned a direct invite, and there they placed first overall in the group stages and took second, losing to Newbee 3-1 in the finals.
Current Members:
Black^ Dominik Reitmeier
Super Junhao Xie
iceiceice Daryl Koh Pei Xiang
fy Linsen Xu
Fenrir Chao Lu

MVP Phoenix

quote:

Not a whole lot to say about them, they placed either 1st or 2nd at all of the Korean Dota Leagues held in 2014, and were able to qualify for the first phase of the TI4 playoffs where they knocked out Virtus.pro, but were eliminated by Liquid. However they are still pretty big fan favorites in Korea, so look out for a Korean cast whenever they are playing because the casters get pretty into it.
Current Members:
March Taewon Park
QO Sunyeob Kim
Forev Sangdon Lee
Heen Seunggon Lee
Reisen Junyeong Lee

Rave

quote:

I honestly never heard of these guys before the announcement of the Asia Championships so I'm gonna be pulling a little hard from Liquipedia on this one: "Rave is a Filipino DotA 2 team based in Korea with Korean management. The organization was formerly known as EoT Hammer. Half way through season 2 of the Korean Dota 2 League Rave recruited Michael "ninjaboogie" Ross as their hard support, with Jeyo rotating to the mid lane and pYung focusing on managing and coaching the team." :shrug:
Current Members:
Cast Mark Pilar
ryOyr Ryo Hasegawa
nb Michael Ross
Jeyo Jio Madayag
Chrissy Djardel Mampusti

Evil Geniuses

quote:

Evil Geniuses has had a rocky road in the DotA 2 scene in the past, with a website dedicated to their old playstyle (http://whendidegthrowlast.com/ hasn't been updated for a long time unfortunately) they went through a big reshuffle. This reshuffle ended with a monster of a lineup that dominated with a 16-2 run. After losing a player to a self-sidelining with carpal tunnel (play at right angles, kids!) the team picked up a standin and carried him to 3rd place at TI4, netting a cool $1mil off of that run alone. The team has since gone through a pretty big shuffle of players, losing Arteezy and Zai to the next up team, while gaining players Sumail and Aui_2000 to fill the gaps. Time will tell as to how well this shuffle works out for them, Secret and the third team that was involved in the shuffle, Cloud9
Current Members:
PPD Peter Dager
Fear Clinton Loomis
Universe Saahil Arora
Aui_2000 Kurtis Daniel Ling
Sumail Syed Sumail Hassan

Team Secret

quote:

Formed in the post TI4 player shuffle, Secret was composed of some of the most dominant players in their respective positions and it showed. Quickly rising to one of the top ranked teams, they have been showing strong performance after strong performance and look to be one of the more dominant teams as we move into the new year. Keep your eyes on Secret if you want to see a strong contender for good games of dota based on their current performance
Current Members:
Puppey Clement Ivanov
Kuroky Kuro Salehi Takashomi
S4 Gustav Magnusson
Arteezy Artour Babaev
Zai Ludwig Wĺhlberg


What can I earn for watching this and other event?
By watching games in client or on Twitch, you can earn special ingame drops. These drops will be tied to specific ingame events, such as first bloods or multikills, and will be tagged with the time, date, and players involved. For most tournaments, you will have to have bought the ticket to be eligible for drops.

I want to earn cool hat drops and level up my Meepo set but I'm stuck going to the movies with my wife. What can I do?
You have two options. Using the console command dota_spectator_auto_spectate_games leagueid you can set Dota 2 to automatically join tournament games of a given tournament. See this page for individual league IDs. Alternatively, you can link your twitch.tv account to Steam, making you eligible for ingame item drops.

UPDATE: There is now a tickbox on each tournament page allowing you to autospectate games.

I'm having issues with Twitch/DailyMotion/Ustream/whatever. Help!

Kyrosiris posted:

I have noticed that people who have stream issues with either Twitch or DailyMotion have them considerably reduced with Livestreamer.

https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer/releases + a batch file that you can make to auto-run for you: http://pastebin.com/iuMuZVdN



EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY GOON POSTS:

Equilibrium posted:

Solid accusation of racism from the gooniest orientalist of them all, nicely wrapped in the sarcastic wit of a 5-star reddit post, but how about instead of comparing inarguably the best SEA dota 2 team with Mouz you try and justify MUFC, Orange, 0-2 iG (are you loving serious with this Valve), and Darer over any one of Mouz, mTw, Quantic, or ex-Quantic. Don't forget absolute "lost 21 of our last 29" Legends. Or gently caress, VP, if we're going by your ridiculously tortured standard of, "some (all) of their players were considered good in dota 1 two years ago when teams were playing for €1K EU in Farm4Fame something something pedigree something something."

If you can see this as anything but a hilarious transparent grab at a market we've already established didn't even loving exist up until the TI invites went out I don't know what to tell you. One part cognitive dissonance, two parts desperately trying to curry favor with Valve, maybe. Your "casting career" isn't going anywhere, you don't need to bend over backwards to defend brazen incompetence.

RESOURCES

Statistics
http://www.datdota.com
http://dotabuff.com/esports
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/

VOD/Streams
http://dailydota2.com/
http://www.dotacinema.com/vods
Dota 2 Match Ticker extension for Chrome

News
http://esportsexpress.com/category/dota-2/
http://www.liquiddota.com
http://www.joindota.com
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2

Betting
http://dota2lounge.com/ - Bet Dota 2 items on games.

OP will be updated later with more teams since this list is kinda bare but I'm really tired right now so its gonna happen tomorrow maybe idk

Format/most of the links mercilessly stolen from Meat Recital's previous OP post, and thread created by his suggestion in previous thread

Somebody fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Feb 5, 2015

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Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
What's worse than nerds talking about nerds who play video games for money? Nerds who are paid to talk over nerds playing video games for money! That's right, this section is gonna be about Dota 2 Commentators, commonly referred to as Casters. Here are some of the more prominent and well known ones:

Casters:

TobiWan

quote:

Tobi has been casting for Dota 2 since the earliest inception of it, even being able to commentate for a majority of the very first International, as well as the finals of the first 3. He is well known throughout all of the Dota community for many things, such as being a pretty good caster, being terrible at dota, and being a racist . Dota community being the Dota community, the last two are overlooked since the first part is redeemable enough for him to get by. Plus, hes Australian, its not like he can help it.
Notable Events Casted:
The International 1 & 4 + Finals
The International 2
The International 3
The Defense tourneys

Ayesee

quote:

Probably has the most "Sports Commentator-y" voice out of all of the Dota 2 casters, and thats one of the few redeemable things about his casting. Is somehow worse in terms of game knowledge than Tobi, and likes to use repetitive one-liners and old sayings to pad out his casting. Rumors have followed him that he doesn't really care about the game as a whole either, most of these stem from the fact that he was nowhere to be found during International matches while the rest of the casters were gathered watching the games and trying to pick up on specific things to talk about. Nevertheless, hes still given charge of things although I personally haven't seen him in quite some time.
Notable Events Casted:
The International 2
The International 3
The International 4 (? can't actually find info on this so this is an assumption)
Hyperx Dota 2 League (D2L)

Synderen

quote:

One of the few "Players turned casters", Synderen was originally only off and on casting, popping up during a few games of TI2 and during The Defense seasons 1 and 2, however he has been casting more often than playing as of late. Part of the very excellent XMG Captain's Draft, he's managed to carry along his co-caster's somewhat spastic and not-good casting style through sheer game knowledge and analysis.
Notable Events Casted:
XMG Captains Draft Invitational
XMG Captains Draft Invitational 2.0
The International 2
The Defense Season 1 & 2
The International 4

SUNSFan

quote:

SUNSFan co-owns the popular Dota 2 YouTube Channel DotaCinema, and is slowly becoming a more prominent caster as of late. Him and co-caster Synderen both cast for the XMG Captains Draft Invitational, which is run by DotaCinema, and he along with many others participated in the The Summit tourney as one of many casters.
Notable Events Casted:
XMG Captains Draft Invitational
XMG Captains Draft Invitational 2.0
The Summit 2
The International 4

Beyond The Summit

Here lie the two major studios of Dota 2 Casting. First up is Beyond The Summit. They're in charge of The Summit tourney, which for people familiar with Homestory Cup is quite possibly the closest we'll ever get to that in terms of similarity sadly it will never match up to Homestory but w/e.
They feature casters such as:
LD

quote:

LD is arguably the best caster in the scene right now, with some of his casts being the highest viewed out of all Dota 2 games. Him along with GoDz have casted both Western and Eastern Dota, and were some of the first people to cast Chinese dota for western audiences. One of the few faults of his is he does tend to overhype and sometimes exaggerate in his casting. Nevertheless, Valve has acknowledged his casting popularity and quality, and as a result he has casted the finals for TI2 onwards.
Notable Events Casted:
The Summit 1 & 2
The International 2 & 3(Finals)
The International 4
G-League
G-1 Champions League

GoDz

quote:

One of the first casters to provide consistent English casts of the Eastern Dota scene. In 2012, GoDz formed the BTS studios and was later asked by Valve to come on to the analyst desk for TI2. He has since been brought on each additional year, as well as running his own events at the BTS studio
Notable Events Casted:
The International 2, 3 & 4 (Analyst Desk)
G-League
The Summit
G-1 Champions League


The GD Studio

Formed by James "2GD" Harding, the GD Studio has been part of several events, most prominent of them being DreamHack and by extension the Dota 2 DreamLeague. They have also ran the very popular EUHub during The International, where a majority of dota players and personalities gathered to watch the TI4 qualifier games. They formerly covered Quake back during the studios inception but have since moved on to greener pastures.
Their casters include:
2GD

quote:

The man himself, 2GD has moved through several games before finally settling in to Dota. While he himself doesn't cast many events, he has popped up in DreamLeague casts from time to time. Runs the studio and has a few side projects as well. One of the most notable is a game that was last known to have been put on hold while he developed the GD Studio further known as Reborn, and was meant to be an 'esports game'.
Notable Events Casted:
DreamHack(multiple and for different games)
DreamLeague Seasons 1 & 2
The International 2, 3 & 4 (Analyst Desk)

LuminousInverse

quote:

Lumi has been around for a while and has switched from BTS to GD Studio in recent times. Was one of the primary casters for TI2, as well as TI3 and 4, casting the finals at each of the events. In between TI's, he has been with The GD Studio for each of the DreamLeagues and has casted at the DreamHack LAN finals following the DreamLeague tourneys.
Notable Events Casted:
The International 2, 3 & 4 (finals)
DreamLeague Seasons 1 & 2
DreamHack

Draskyl

quote:

Known as Dadskyl due to his love for old rock and roll (known as dad music). Originally a caster for the Raidcall Dota 2 League alongside Ayesee, he was picked up along with several other personalities during the formation of the GD Studio's Dota 2 transition. Was formerly a pro HoN player and is among the few casters with good game knowledge (and a 5k+ mmr rating). As a result, his casts are among the most informed. Has casted at TI2 and 3 alongside Ayesee and was on the analyst desk during the playoffs at TI4.
Notable Events Casted:
D2L
The International 2, 3
DreamLeague Seasons 1 & 2
DreamHack Dota 2 Lan Finals

Sheever

quote:

Sheever has been casting Dota 2 for quite some time, and was invited to do interviews at TI2 and did casting at TI3. Unfortunately due to an overlay gaff and resulting angry tirade she directed at herself live on stream, she was relegated to the playoffs analyst desk at TI4. Has recently partnered up with The GD Studio along with Shaneomad to cast future events.
Notable Events Casted:
The International 2 (interviews)
The International 3
The International 4 (playoffs analyst desk)
varius Dota Tourneys

Statsman Bruno

quote:

The man with a suit for every occasion, Bruno has been playing Dota since 6.20. His interest in stats for the game wasn't sparked until the first International, but from there he began working on a project which was later to become the now defunct dota-academy, which created with the help of partner "shostakovich", was meant to be a "robust statistical system for the entire competitive scene." He originally met James at just prior to TI2, where after being able to meet with and get to know him, James offered him a spot on the analyst desk, and thus a legend was made. Since the start of 2013, Bruno has officially joined the GD Studio. Has yet to show up to an event unprepared.
Notable Events Casted:
The International 2, 3 & 4 (analyst desk)
DreamLeague Seasons 1 & 2
DreamHack Dota 2 Lan Finals

Luna Was Here fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jan 5, 2015

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010


nice image leeching, op.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



sorry hotlinking images is not allowed

RiskyChris
Jan 13, 2008
Secret is going to win TI5. Calling it now.

Shadowlz
Oct 3, 2011

Oh it's gonna happen one way or the other, pal.



This is going to be a good season for sure! Good luck to all the great teams. Remember it's not just about winning, it's about having fun in dota.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

Sry liquid

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Good choice of thread icon

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!
I'm hoping this will be a good+exciting tournament with lots of different playstyles clashing and teams coming together from all over the world to try their best.

Coffee Mugshot
Jun 26, 2010

by Lowtax
Can we start this thread off by banning the people who said kuro is a bad carry in the other thread?

Also someone post that kuro pa rampage vod

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoXkP_w-nS4

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 7 days!)

RIP EG I can no long spam "i believe that we will win" in here now.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
so that i can update the op when i get home, what is the current c9 roster? did they actually get notail or was that just a rumor

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax
Arteezy is a cool dude. Instead of setting up a PayPal donation thing for himself on his stream, he's going to donate everything he gets to a charity.

Better than EE's anime fund.

RiskyChris
Jan 13, 2008

Luna Was Here posted:

so that i can update the op when i get home, what is the current c9 roster? did they actually get notail or was that just a rumor

Allegedly n0tail + misery to C9 with aui/PLD out, but we don't have real confirmation on PLD yet (that comes from ComeWithMe).

KNew
Sep 16, 2007

Yu does not care for puns

Luna Was Here posted:

so that i can update the op when i get home, what is the current c9 roster? did they actually get notail or was that just a rumor

I think its still just rumor at this point, basically PieLieDie is out and N0tail and Misery are in.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

Peanut President posted:

RIP EG I can no long spam "i believe that we will win" in here now.

As long as Universe keeps dropping the handsomest chrono's and icepaths, EG will always win in my heart.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
Will this break the eternal 2nd place curse for C9


One of the rumors is that Synderyn will join TT and I have to ask: why, Synderen, you're p ok as a caster

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

Lets go Newbee

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

put this in the OP tia

Kild fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 3, 2015

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Still no stoats poster in the op....

The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 3, 2015

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Reoxygenation posted:

Will this break the eternal 2nd place curse for C9


One of the rumors is that Synderyn will join TT and I have to ask: why, Synderen, you're p ok as a caster
C9 will break the 2nd place curse. They will replace it with the curse of winning the next TI after they boot EE for being the only non euro.

I think Synderen was only officially with Dota cinema and SUnsfan said something about joining BTS so I don't know if Synd has a group to cast with.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

https://twitter.com/ViCi_Gaming/status/551149636933926912

no this deserves to be in the OP

I find it funny how there haven't been rumours involving Fnatic or Team Liquid. You'd think this would be opportune time in saying they're picking up new rosters.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Wonder where the DAC prizepool will end.

RiskyChris
Jan 13, 2008

CampingCarl posted:

C9 will break the 2nd place curse. They will replace it with the curse of winning the next TI after they boot EE for being the only non euro.

I think Synderen was only officially with Dota cinema and SUnsfan said something about joining BTS so I don't know if Synd has a group to cast with.

BTS couldn't afford Synderen, haha.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/ViCi_Gaming/status/551149636933926912

no this deserves to be in the OP

I find it funny how there haven't been rumours involving Fnatic or Team Liquid. You'd think this would be opportune time in saying they're picking up new rosters.

There is no way in hell that liquid picks up team fire after what fluff did last time. I don't see them picking anyone up honestly, or who knows. Fnatic is just a poo poo organization though gently caress those guys.

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/ViCi_Gaming/status/551149636933926912

no this deserves to be in the OP

I find it funny how there haven't been rumours involving Fnatic or Team Liquid. You'd think this would be opportune time in saying they're picking up new rosters.
What teams are there for them to pick up? All the shuffle has been in established teams. Any team they would pick up would likely be something formed by whatever is left after all this is settled.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
I don't think Liquid will be picking up a new team for a while. Who knows for Fnatic? With that being said I can't wait for mouz to pick up a team right before Ti5, only for them to fall apart 3 weeks after the event's over.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
OP Changelog 6.03:
OP now contains a STOATS poster

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Luna Was Here posted:

OP Changelog 6.03:
OP now contains a STOATS poster

good


I worked hard on that poster :colbert:

ISUCHARESLOLO
Dec 10, 2005

The verb "to google" has come to mean "to perform a Web search", usually with the Google search engine.
How did Team Secret get rid of their play maker and beautiful flower, n0tail? Seriously, this is the only roster change I just don't understand.

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

Dendi's doing english commentary while playing a QoP game. I like it.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



ISUCHARESLOLO posted:

How did Team Secret get rid of their play maker and beautiful flower, n0tail? Seriously, this is the only roster change I just don't understand.

They probably wanted Arteezy and he wanted zai with him so n0tail got the boot.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Wezlar posted:

They probably wanted Arteezy and he wanted zai with him so n0tail got the boot.

Thought the rumour was he left because they kicked fly. Kicking n0tail if he actually wanted to stay seems like an insane decision.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



TheRat posted:

Thought the rumour was he left because they kicked fly. Kicking n0tail if he actually wanted to stay seems like an insane decision.

This doesn't really make sense either since that happened like a month ago and the rumored c9 roster has him but no Fly.

I think he probably left on his own but I have no idea why.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I assume there is a lot of money poo poo going on in the background that we don't know about.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Dendi is a cool pro to watch stream when he's talking in a language that doesn't sound like backwards yelling.

gangnam reference
Dec 26, 2010

shut up idiot shut up idiot shut up idiot shut up idiot

Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/ViCi_Gaming/status/551149636933926912

no this deserves to be in the OP

I find it funny how there haven't been rumours involving Fnatic or Team Liquid. You'd think this would be opportune time in saying they're picking up new rosters.

liquids pay is rear end

fnatics incompetent

curse is some on some weird poo poo

RiskyChris
Jan 13, 2008
Liquid pays?

Ed:how does an institution with so much community history fall flat on its face compared to a juggernaut like eg?

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I'm kind of curious how RTZ will do playing as a European team, considering the whole "we hate playing on Lux" thing re:DotaCinema.

I also wonder between him and Puppey how they're going to be able to contain all that swag.

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